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Techno
Profile Joined June 2010
1900 Posts
July 23 2011 22:37 GMT
#161
Whats nice for Zerg on this map?

Maybe the huge, open middle?

"favourable for terran"

"sorta ok for zerg"


I hate to be one of those guys, but Im jumping on the "Mr Bitter is Biased Bandwagon".
Hell, its awesome to LOSE to nukes!
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
July 23 2011 22:39 GMT
#162
On July 24 2011 07:37 Techno wrote:
Whats nice for Zerg on this map?

Maybe the huge, open middle?

"favourable for terran"

"sorta ok for zerg"


I hate to be one of those guys, but Im jumping on the "Mr Bitter is Biased Bandwagon".


Haha definitely. Also, just because something doesn't leave you "ahead" it doesn't mean it is necessarily all-in. -.-
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14155 Posts
July 23 2011 22:40 GMT
#163
On July 24 2011 07:37 Techno wrote:
Whats nice for Zerg on this map?

Maybe the huge, open middle?

"favourable for terran"

"sorta ok for zerg"


I hate to be one of those guys, but Im jumping on the "Mr Bitter is Biased Bandwagon".



It depends on the different styles Hellion thor loves the tight chokes while marine tank likes spread out areas. likewise to muta ling vs infestor ling or roach bling sling
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46197 Posts
July 23 2011 22:42 GMT
#164
Well played by Hack there, although if Zephyr had walled his choke with both queens, the hellion harrass would have been far less successful.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
July 23 2011 22:42 GMT
#165
On July 24 2011 07:37 Techno wrote:
Whats nice for Zerg on this map?

Maybe the huge, open middle?

"favourable for terran"

"sorta ok for zerg"


I hate to be one of those guys, but Im jumping on the "Mr Bitter is Biased Bandwagon".

mr bitter is definitely a QQzerg sad to say.
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14155 Posts
July 23 2011 22:43 GMT
#166
and terran punish's a greedy zerg so glad its a bo5
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Techno
Profile Joined June 2010
1900 Posts
July 23 2011 22:44 GMT
#167
On July 24 2011 07:40 sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 07:37 Techno wrote:
Whats nice for Zerg on this map?

Maybe the huge, open middle?

"favourable for terran"

"sorta ok for zerg"


I hate to be one of those guys, but Im jumping on the "Mr Bitter is Biased Bandwagon".



marine tank likes spread out areas


As a marine/tank player I have to disagree with this. I like chokes. Seems obvious to me why. I cant imagine any terran player prefering open areas with marine tank. Chokes mean no flanks. Flanks are what Zerg wants against marine/tank.

I know that I really hate crossing a creeped-up Shattered Temple.

Hell, its awesome to LOSE to nukes!
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
July 23 2011 22:47 GMT
#168
On July 24 2011 07:34 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 07:27 Asha` wrote:
On July 24 2011 07:25 Techno wrote:
Turrets also detect burrowed infestors, Mr Bitter.
EDIT: Why does Mr. Bitter think Hack thinks there's mutas coming?


Because Terious realised a SCV was going to get into his base, cancelled his infestation pit that just started morphing to throw down a spire where it would get scouted, then cancelled that and built his infestation pit once he'd mopped up the SCV.

I just dont understand how hack actually thought it. He saw that Terious just cancelled something just moments before the SCV arrived, so he should've recognized it was unlikely that mutas were actually coming and make like 2 turrets(or wait and scan, but personally id rather just build 2 turrets and mule) in his mineral lines. Instead he made I believe 6 :/

He should've definitely scanned just to make sure. He had the extra orbital out and could've afford it. I guess he just didn't realise something was cancelled.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
tgun
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
434 Posts
July 23 2011 22:48 GMT
#169
On July 24 2011 07:44 Techno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 07:40 sermokala wrote:
On July 24 2011 07:37 Techno wrote:
Whats nice for Zerg on this map?

Maybe the huge, open middle?

"favourable for terran"

"sorta ok for zerg"


I hate to be one of those guys, but Im jumping on the "Mr Bitter is Biased Bandwagon".



marine tank likes spread out areas


As a marine/tank player I have to disagree with this. I like chokes. Seems obvious to me why. I cant imagine any terran player prefering open areas with marine tank. Chokes mean no flanks. Flanks are what Zerg wants against marine/tank.

I know that I really hate crossing a creeped-up Shattered Temple.



I believe most zergs dislike it for the two-base tank/marine push that edges up along your natural cliff which can siege out your whole mineral line.
forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
July 23 2011 22:49 GMT
#170
On July 24 2011 07:37 Techno wrote:
Whats nice for Zerg on this map?

Maybe the huge, open middle?

"favourable for terran"

"sorta ok for zerg"


I hate to be one of those guys, but Im jumping on the "Mr Bitter is Biased Bandwagon".


Let's be honest, it's not like Hack chose that map because he think it looks pretty....
Techno
Profile Joined June 2010
1900 Posts
July 23 2011 22:53 GMT
#171
On July 24 2011 07:49 forgottendreams wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 07:37 Techno wrote:
Whats nice for Zerg on this map?

Maybe the huge, open middle?

"favourable for terran"

"sorta ok for zerg"


I hate to be one of those guys, but Im jumping on the "Mr Bitter is Biased Bandwagon".


Let's be honest, it's not like Hack chose that map because he think it looks pretty....

On anything other than close positions, I would say that it is at least balanced. My own personal bias says that Terran has to play risky with drops or something on that map.
Hell, its awesome to LOSE to nukes!
Jombozeus
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
China1014 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 23:02:43
July 23 2011 22:59 GMT
#172
Did he really say shakuras is zerg favored in TvZ?

EDIT:

What is he talking about >_<

Even trade nvm bad trade he has no map control but I don't know, hes in a pretty good spot!

Please make up your mind......
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14155 Posts
July 23 2011 23:07 GMT
#173
He never did a Mass zergling pump so he loses the game. Nydas came out of left field He was doing so well. oh well Game 5 in bo5 YEAH!
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
July 23 2011 23:15 GMT
#174
On July 24 2011 07:37 Techno wrote:
Whats nice for Zerg on this map?

Maybe the huge, open middle?

"favourable for terran"

"sorta ok for zerg"


I hate to be one of those guys, but Im jumping on the "Mr Bitter is Biased Bandwagon".

Which map was this for?
Techno
Profile Joined June 2010
1900 Posts
July 23 2011 23:15 GMT
#175
On July 24 2011 08:15 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 07:37 Techno wrote:
Whats nice for Zerg on this map?

Maybe the huge, open middle?

"favourable for terran"

"sorta ok for zerg"


I hate to be one of those guys, but Im jumping on the "Mr Bitter is Biased Bandwagon".

Which map was this for?

Shattered Temple.
Hell, its awesome to LOSE to nukes!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46197 Posts
July 23 2011 23:15 GMT
#176
BIT BY BIT

vs. blind sling all-in?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 23:16:44
July 23 2011 23:16 GMT
#177
This is so weird, and so wrong

This makes no sense, I'm speechless
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46197 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 23:18:36
July 23 2011 23:17 GMT
#178
Mr. Bitter: DON'T ATTACK WITH YOUR SPEEDLINGS YOU'LL LOSE EVERYTHING! WHAT ARE YOU DOING!

:: zerg wins ::

Oh.

Crazy game. Yay for Zephyr! Congratulations on winning it all!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Xplitcit
Profile Joined October 2010
United States419 Posts
July 23 2011 23:18 GMT
#179
lol psychic EMS read.
It aint easy being crazy
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 23:19:56
July 23 2011 23:19 GMT
#180
Didn't he start making lings after seeing his overlord get killed by 3 marines?

Those were pretty fast marines no?
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
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