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Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
July 19 2011 10:39 GMT
#1741
On July 19 2011 19:38 Krehlmar wrote:
Also I've always said MC isn't that great, he just playes aggressively and his opponents lose their games rather than him winning them, just like now how MC loses his own games by preparing to defend and then not doing it.

Yeah MC isn't that great, winning multiple GSLs and foreign tournaments is nothing. Plus an 80%+ winrate in PvP pssh that's weak.
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
July 19 2011 10:39 GMT
#1742
On July 19 2011 19:38 lunchforthesky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 19:37 Tachion wrote:
I always thought that MC was so far ahead of everyone else in PvP because of his superior control. When you both do the same strat, it all comes down to control. Are other players catching up or is MC just playing bad this round?


Anyone can lose in PvP. It's an extremely random match up. Long term better PvP shows through but in a one off game anyone can win.


When both players do the same build, whats random?
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
rtsAlaran
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany383 Posts
July 19 2011 10:39 GMT
#1743
Artosis read this thread during the break ;p
Failsafe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1298 Posts
July 19 2011 10:39 GMT
#1744
On July 19 2011 19:38 Krehlmar wrote:
Also I've always said MC isn't that great, he just playes aggressively and his opponents lose their games rather than him winning them, just like now how MC loses his own games by preparing to defend and then not doing it.


yeah, similar to how aggressive poker players tend to win lots of money while passive nits donate. there's nothing smart or challenging about being aggressive -- and doing it well.
MrBitter: Phoenixes... They're like flying hellions. Always cost efficient.
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
July 19 2011 10:39 GMT
#1745
Jang Min Chul FIGHTING~!

Show us the Heart of a Champion.
Someone call down the Thunder?
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
July 19 2011 10:39 GMT
#1746
On July 19 2011 19:13 justinpal wrote:
HongUn fighting! (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻


GoGo.
Never make a hydralisk.
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1936 Posts
July 19 2011 10:39 GMT
#1747
On July 19 2011 19:33 SafeAsCheese wrote:
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On July 19 2011 19:33 Lorizean wrote:
On July 19 2011 19:28 cyprin wrote:
As time goes on, I hate the GSL format more and more.
Giving people a week to train one matchup to snipe one person is so dull to watch

you DO realize that both players get this week to snipe the other one?


Yes, resulting in timing attacks every game. It's a legit concern.


I agree, the way starcraft has been played for the past decade is definitely bull shit. It unfairly rewards players for practicing!

+ Show Spoiler +
You're crazy, take the fanboy goggles off
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
July 19 2011 10:39 GMT
#1748
Tasteless and Artosis totally know what the nerds are thinking right now. This forum is full of "MC VS NESTEA BEING STOLEN FROM US NOOOO".

If Hong-un wins this, hopefully this will revitalize his career.
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BuzZoo
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1468 Posts
July 19 2011 10:39 GMT
#1749
3-2 MC. Lock it in.
MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
July 19 2011 10:39 GMT
#1750
Did Artosis just say MC won NASL?
"We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here..."
flodeskum
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1267 Posts
July 19 2011 10:39 GMT
#1751
On July 19 2011 19:34 lunchforthesky wrote:
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On July 19 2011 19:33 lim1017 wrote:
this is what artosis was talking about on one of the recent SOTG i think. Players are becoming more greedy as the PvP metagame evolves from 4gate cause people have figured out anti 4gate builds, and as some people have said MC is sometimes a greedy player.

I think Hongun is just straight up 4 gating to punish him for this


MC has four gated in both games.

a 24 probe four gate is not the same as a 20 probe four gate.
IdrA: " my fans are kinda retarded"
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
July 19 2011 10:40 GMT
#1752
Wow... Man if HongUn wins I;m not sleeping tonight...
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
July 19 2011 10:40 GMT
#1753
Just got up.

Check the results of the Nestea game - 3-0 in a ZvZ, standard.
Check the results of the MC game - 0-2 in a PvP, WTF IS GOING ON?
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Noam
Profile Joined September 2010
Israel2209 Posts
July 19 2011 10:40 GMT
#1754
Is anyone noticing any SK tags on MC's shirt? Can't see any myself.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 19 2011 10:40 GMT
#1755
On July 19 2011 19:39 frogurt wrote:
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On July 19 2011 19:38 Haydin wrote:
On July 19 2011 19:35 frucisky wrote:
On July 19 2011 19:34 WArped wrote:
On July 19 2011 19:33 susySquark wrote:
Its going to be Nestea Bomber finals if MC cant make it through here.


Oh hell yes, I'll take that.

Never underestimate Byun especially if its TvT


Or with a big, critical game. Byun really seems to preform best under pressure. Then again, bomber just saved his team with near-reverse all kill last week in GSTL.


Never underestimate Bomber in anything ever.

Bomber vs Byun was the most anticipated matchup for me in the ro8, but this one is possibly taking over due to sheer shock
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12972 Posts
July 19 2011 10:40 GMT
#1756
On July 19 2011 19:37 Shellshock1122 wrote:
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On July 19 2011 19:35 Poopi wrote:
On July 19 2011 19:33 Pajegetc wrote:
On July 19 2011 19:30 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On July 19 2011 19:28 BuZZ123 wrote:
On July 19 2011 19:27 Skyze wrote:
well Nestea is almost guaranteed another GSL win from this.

You seem to completely forget Bomber, Byun, Losira, and a powerful Trickster....


Bomber: Died to destiny recently and has gotten spanked by him before.

Losira: Nestea's son

Byun: Only really interesting one. Will likely lose

Trickster: No



Byun will crush Bomber.

No way lol.

Byun is one of the most underrated players in Code S. I am a huge fan of his play. Did you see him in the group stages? It's not like when he does well it's a fluke. I don't agree that he will crush Bomber, but it is definitely not out of the question that he can win the series. 3-2 or 3-1 Byun wouldnt be unrealistic. 3-0 probably would.

And have you seen Bomber play? The only chance that Byun beats him is that the 5 maps are metalopolis, and I am not even sure that Byun can beat Bomber like that...
There is only one player who can say : "hey I have beaten Bomber BoX TvT" and at that time they were the two terrans dominating everything else.
WriterMaru
Maskedsatyr
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore1245 Posts
July 19 2011 10:40 GMT
#1757
On July 19 2011 19:37 Tachion wrote:
I always thought that MC was so far ahead of everyone else in PvP because of his superior control. When you both do the same strat, it all comes down to control. Are other players catching up or is MC just playing bad this round?

Are you watching the games? The 2nd game had nothing to do with control. He was outsmarted. Hongun predicted that an engagement will occur in the center with the 1st warp of stalkers and decided to warp in zealots to take advantage of that.
"Don't believe in you who believes in me, don't believe in me who believes in you, believe in you...who believes in yourself!"
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 19 2011 10:40 GMT
#1758
On July 19 2011 19:40 Noam wrote:
Is anyone noticing any SK tags on MC's shirt? Can't see any myself.

I think that's only for foreign tournaments but I might be wrong
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
July 19 2011 10:40 GMT
#1759
this is sickening. First Rain fucks up an epic finals in Season 3 by taking out Nestea. Now MC on the verge of going out to Hongun -.-. Guess the GSL can't handle the power level of two gods facing off ;;
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Yew
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States940 Posts
July 19 2011 10:40 GMT
#1760
Go HongUn!
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