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Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
July 16 2011 21:02 GMT
#481
On July 17 2011 06:00 Leviance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 05:54 Provocateur wrote:
Goody [...] such an underrated player


How much more wins will it take until people stop posting this? Don't get that as a flame or something, nothing against you - it's just that I'm seriously wondering everytime that people still don't consider GoOdy a top player as he has been tearing through online tournaments beating top players left and right for a long time now.


I think you read overrated, but he wrote underrated..
darkobert
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1 Post
July 16 2011 21:03 GMT
#482
am i stupid? can't find the stream... can someone help me?
Tppz!
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1449 Posts
July 16 2011 21:03 GMT
#483
On July 17 2011 06:00 RogerChillingworth wrote:
Wait so the player who queues up 5 tanks in each factory is taking games off Ret?


He Dominated every game. And I having seen him doing that cuing for some time. Maybe the caster didnt show this. GoOdy has improved a lot. He takes down every Zerg in his way. (Last week IdrA, Nerchio etc)
fishinguy
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation798 Posts
July 16 2011 21:03 GMT
#484
On July 17 2011 06:00 Leviance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 05:54 Provocateur wrote:
Goody [...] such an underrated player


How much more wins will it take until people stop posting this? Don't get that as a flame or something, nothing against you - it's just that I'm seriously wondering everytime that people still don't consider GoOdy a top player as he has been tearing through online tournaments beating top players left and right for a long time now.


That IS the problem tbh, goody doesn't get the recognition that he deserves for his achievements. Indeed he is a top player, but unfortunately no one knows that much about him. He jsut gotta win a major "LAN" that everyone watches like MLG or Dreamhack.
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
July 16 2011 21:04 GMT
#485
On July 17 2011 06:03 darkobert wrote:
am i stupid? can't find the stream... can someone help me?


TeamSpeak TL SC2 Open #19 semifinals with Chill and Liquid`TLO will start in 00:25:42.
gladheateher1337
Profile Joined June 2011
164 Posts
July 16 2011 21:04 GMT
#486
goody is one of the best eu-terrans.period.
he shows it every week.constantly.
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
July 16 2011 21:05 GMT
#487
On July 17 2011 06:03 darkobert wrote:
am i stupid? can't find the stream... can someone help me?

Right top of the screen under teh calander, there you can fidn TeamSpeak TL SC2 Open. But the real stream seems delayed for a little bit, I guess its because Goody vs Ret is still being shown !
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Tppz!
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1449 Posts
July 16 2011 21:05 GMT
#488
On July 17 2011 06:03 fishinguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 06:00 Leviance wrote:
On July 17 2011 05:54 Provocateur wrote:
Goody [...] such an underrated player


How much more wins will it take until people stop posting this? Don't get that as a flame or something, nothing against you - it's just that I'm seriously wondering everytime that people still don't consider GoOdy a top player as he has been tearing through online tournaments beating top players left and right for a long time now.


That IS the problem tbh, goody doesn't get the recognition that he deserves for his achievements. Indeed he is a top player, but unfortunately no one knows that much about him. He jsut gotta win a major "LAN" that everyone watches like MLG or Dreamhack.


The problem is that Top players dont want to believe that GoOdy with his awful macro does win a lot. But nearly every players gets torn apart by him. Still noone wants to believe in the Tankmaster
wats0n
Profile Joined July 2011
United States509 Posts
July 16 2011 21:06 GMT
#489
On July 17 2011 05:35 Anomandaris wrote:
US really weak. This has been a recurring theme. Dunno why, any one an idea?


The last TL Open had 7 NA players 6 Korean and 3 Europeans in the top 16.

Strelok, Ret, Goody, and Nerchio are some of the best players in Europe and they did what they should do today. It's just that simple.
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
July 16 2011 21:10 GMT
#490
On July 17 2011 06:05 Tppz! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 06:03 fishinguy wrote:
On July 17 2011 06:00 Leviance wrote:
On July 17 2011 05:54 Provocateur wrote:
Goody [...] such an underrated player


How much more wins will it take until people stop posting this? Don't get that as a flame or something, nothing against you - it's just that I'm seriously wondering everytime that people still don't consider GoOdy a top player as he has been tearing through online tournaments beating top players left and right for a long time now.


That IS the problem tbh, goody doesn't get the recognition that he deserves for his achievements. Indeed he is a top player, but unfortunately no one knows that much about him. He jsut gotta win a major "LAN" that everyone watches like MLG or Dreamhack.


The problem is that Top players dont want to believe that GoOdy with his awful macro does win a lot. But nearly every players gets torn apart by him. Still noone wants to believe in the Tankmaster

I feel like many top players respect Goody and describe him as an intelligent player. They also make fun of his macro, though.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2889 Posts
July 16 2011 21:11 GMT
#491
On July 17 2011 06:04 gladheateher1337 wrote:
goody is one of the best eu-terrans.period.
he shows it every week.constantly.


Doesn't say that much for EU terrans.

Honestly, if he started losing to everyone next week people who flip-flop like they always do. Don't think someone with his mechanics can be considered a top player. Doesn't matter if he's taken out a few top zergs recently...
sekritzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
1515 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 21:14:05
July 16 2011 21:11 GMT
#492
On July 17 2011 06:05 Tppz! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 06:03 fishinguy wrote:
On July 17 2011 06:00 Leviance wrote:
On July 17 2011 05:54 Provocateur wrote:
Goody [...] such an underrated player


How much more wins will it take until people stop posting this? Don't get that as a flame or something, nothing against you - it's just that I'm seriously wondering everytime that people still don't consider GoOdy a top player as he has been tearing through online tournaments beating top players left and right for a long time now.


That IS the problem tbh, goody doesn't get the recognition that he deserves for his achievements. Indeed he is a top player, but unfortunately no one knows that much about him. He jsut gotta win a major "LAN" that everyone watches like MLG or Dreamhack.


The problem is that Top players dont want to believe that GoOdy with his awful macro does win a lot. But nearly every players gets torn apart by him. Still noone wants to believe in the Tankmaster

I have to kinda agree with this. Most pros, or actually maybe the whole SC2 scene doesn't want to believe that Goody with his awful macro is stealing games off people like Idra/white-ra/nerchio/Nestea/ret.

As people have said anyone who watches the EU scene knows that Goody is a top tier terran and that's saying a lot, I mean a lot for EU where 80% of their top players are terran, 10% toss, 10% zerg.

On July 17 2011 06:11 RogerChillingworth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 06:04 gladheateher1337 wrote:
goody is one of the best eu-terrans.period.
he shows it every week.constantly.


Doesn't say that much for EU terrans.

Honestly, if he started losing to everyone next week people who flip-flop like they always do. Don't think someone with his mechanics can be considered a top player. Doesn't matter if he's taken out a few top zergs recently...


Please stop talking. You have no idea what so ever about the EU scene and somehow you make the worst statement possible concerning the EU scene. The 20th top Eu Terran can probably easily rip apart the top NA terran.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 16 2011 21:11 GMT
#493
And that's how you do it.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
July 16 2011 21:12 GMT
#494
Goody is awesome! Panzer general fighting!!
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
bo0
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium550 Posts
July 16 2011 21:13 GMT
#495
I don't get why goody doesn't practice his mechanics ultra hardcore his strategies are really good (it's basically the only reason he's winning soo much imho) so if he has faster apm/better macro, imagine how badly he could dominate the european scene
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
July 16 2011 21:13 GMT
#496
SC2 thankfully is not all mechanics, it's also playing intelligently, outsmarting your opponent.. and he does that very well. People are not used to his style, so they arent that good versus it. Goody is awesome, stop the hate and accept that SC2 is more than just mechanics.
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5ukkub
Profile Joined September 2009
Poland507 Posts
July 16 2011 21:14 GMT
#497
For me it almost seems that GoOdy made a pact with devil.
His apm is 70, macro is almost non-existent, queying up SCV's and units... and almost always "by a miracle" pulls a victory.
But congrats! It's not easy to constantly getting high in many tournaments
Rationalism - Don't take evereything what you hear as a fact! Thinking process makes us human.
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
July 16 2011 21:15 GMT
#498
Think the reason some people think goody as a rather average players was that he went 1-8 in the NASL groups. (or maybe 2-7)
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
July 16 2011 21:15 GMT
#499
Certainly in TvZ, mech has a lot going for it, but imo it is more timing based, which is what Goody does I think. Yeah, sure if you mass hellion/tank/thor to max whilst on 3 base you're going to lose, but there is no reason why a mech push can't be timing based. The only bad part is that often it is all in, as in, if you lose your army in a trade, you lose the game. Imagine someone with Bomber or MVPs mechanics and Goody's knowledge of mech. It might not be standard, but it would sure be super scary.

Having said that, I don't understand why people don't use timings against Goody, if he macros poorly and gets supply blocked, he would be most vulnerable to timings. Getting supply blocked 5 times in a game doesn't actually matter once you reach maxed.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2889 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 21:20:24
July 16 2011 21:19 GMT
#500
On July 17 2011 06:13 Beyonder wrote:
SC2 thankfully is not all mechanics, it's also playing intelligently, outsmarting your opponent.. and he does that very well. People are not used to his style, so they arent that good versus it. Goody is awesome, stop the hate and accept that SC2 is more than just mechanics.


If you notice, no one's calling him retarded, or someone who can't execute strong builds. We just expect people who have been playing this game for so long to at least match his decision making and strategy and then come over the top and smash with good mechanics.
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