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On July 06 2011 07:06 Toxi78 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 05:58 iTzAnglory wrote: You join a tournament with a Spanish name and you expect it to be decent, how nice. The person probably had ties with the admin of the tournament, as I understand what happened to you was completely unjustified. The mistake could be overlooked as not all tournaments are perfect, but banning is just unmindful and absurd. i already said schniii is my girlfriend.
just wow... poor op, sry man But OP you should really fix your tone next time, and dont spam messages like you did in irc. Frankly Toxi, it was probably your fault for being on his ignore list. Given your irc messages I could see how you coulda flamed him in a ladder game and gotten ignored. manner up next time
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you can complain all you want Toxi:
even if you got the defloss without fault of yours, it's still a decision made by the admins and not by freshone. but at the time this all was revoked (!!!!!!!) and you were given a place in a higher bracket till which you did not play (!!!!!!!!!!) it was nothing you should have accepted.
jus remember how they treat you and treat them the same. win another tournament, you already stated there are many many many!
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On July 06 2011 07:06 Toxi78 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 05:58 iTzAnglory wrote: You join a tournament with a Spanish name and you expect it to be decent, how nice. The person probably had ties with the admin of the tournament, as I understand what happened to you was completely unjustified. The mistake could be overlooked as not all tournaments are perfect, but banning is just unmindful and absurd. i already said schniii is my girlfriend.
Yeah, trolling as a response is a good way to gain respect. Congratz.
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This is just horrible news and now i know what tourney i won't ever be participating in. I guess you should just play zotac cup and viles weekly tourneys :D
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Competo cup sucks ass and has always done so. I've played it once and it was a gigantic waste of time. No admins on the IRC for the first 1½ hours of the cup.
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Lolz! I am so dissapointed in Competo cup, will never play there more to be honest, hopefully they will try to get better admins who makes better decisions.
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Damn, at first when i saw this post i thought there was another side to it. But Toxi actually confirmed this story, even telling he was "playing another cup" (quote). Endrey got in, got out and now nothing has changed besides the image of Competocup itself. They screwed the pooch on this one.
First by letting their admins make a big mistake, second; by not correcting their mistake but foremost; not turning up in any sort of way to commentate on the subject or give some additional info/repercussions.
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On July 06 2011 07:06 Toxi78 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 05:58 iTzAnglory wrote: You join a tournament with a Spanish name and you expect it to be decent, how nice. The person probably had ties with the admin of the tournament, as I understand what happened to you was completely unjustified. The mistake could be overlooked as not all tournaments are perfect, but banning is just unmindful and absurd. i already said schniii is my girlfriend. WAT!
Game over. This is such a blatant case of poor admining. She should have differed to another admin, the fact that she didn't is one of the most painfully unprofessional things I've seen. It doesn't matter which player was in the wrong, it doesn't matter what else happened. An admin should never make a decision regarding a close friend or significant other. It makes both the admin and the player look bad.
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The admin was NOT his girlfriend. Stop falling for the troll, people.
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On July 06 2011 18:34 Grr Arr Rawr wrote: The admin was NOT his girlfriend. Stop falling for the troll, people.
Especially when toxi78 is the subject himself who admitted to having admin girlfriend several times already...
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I don't believe the admin is his girlfriend, he was trolling!
Facts: -toxi played 2 cups -fresh waited 30m for toxi and got a defwin -fresh played two more round after that game and won -toxi came back and got a (unfair) right to play against fresh, even tho fresh had won a DQ from toxi because he was later 30m because he was playing another tournament -fresh didn't saw or didn't want to play against him because toxi was allready DQ -fresh was DQ and toxi got his spot 2/3 round ahead
admin = shit fresh = got owned toxi = should have been DQ and didn't deserve a spot 2/3 rounds ahead and then comes here and insults everybody by trolling and lying etc..
This doesn't take away my sleep but it shows the true colors of the admin and toxi!
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Have any admins if competo cup came and posted here yet? I want to see what they have to say about this unfairness, I can't think of any tourney that would do such a thing and then not expect to be flamed. I don't really know much about this cup but this thread confirms that it is indeed a piece of crap cup and it doesn't deserve much attention let alone respect.
Come here and post something Competo admin I want to see what you have to say about all of this.
Your's truly: Joseph Sanchicha
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my advice to the op: next time you try to reason with an admin, try to not sound like a raging 13 yr old. you will have a better chance of being heard. but yes, once admins decide to give out a defwin, the must stick with it
to toxic: being busy playing a long tvt in another tournament is no excuse. you are responsible for showing up for a match in time. if you can't arrange it, it is your fault.
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Well, it certainly seems like a lack of communication all around. Admins have the responsibility, especially in a case of an incorrect defwin/loss, to delve deeper into the situation to avoid fixing a mistake by making another mistake.
After hearing the point of view from both players, I would like to hear from the organization or one of the admins to shed some light on the situation. Especially if competo wants to save face.
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Any tournament should have following rules:
(1) Do not play in any other tournament at the same time. (2) Do not flame your opponent, casters or admins in either irc, ingame or through battlenet
Sometimes, I get the feeling that these two rules would clear up most of the problems arising in tournaments.
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On July 06 2011 03:11 Toxi78 wrote: i feel your pain incontrol, i know what it feels like now.
I think there should be a unified blacklist for all the mini tournaments etc that disallows entry of players such as Toxi78. Even after all the facts come out he still refuses to hold up his hands and say he was the person in the wrong and apologises to Fresh instead of continuous bad manners in an attempt to look innocent. I wouldn't want him as my opponent in a cup nor would want anyone else to face him, so, maybe one day the Zotacs/go4sc/competants/gamecreds etc have a mini black list or something they can work with.
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On July 06 2011 20:27 pksens wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 03:11 Toxi78 wrote: i feel your pain incontrol, i know what it feels like now. I think there should be a unified blacklist for all the mini tournaments etc that disallows entry of players such as Toxi78. Even after all the facts come out he still refuses to hold up his hands and say he was the person in the wrong and apologises to Fresh instead of continuous bad manners in an attempt to look innocent. I wouldn't want him as my opponent in a cup nor would want anyone else to face him, so, maybe one day the Zotacs/go4sc/competants/gamecreds etc have a mini black list or something they can work with.
Admins were wrong - Toxi simply abused the faulty integrity the admins were upholding.
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On July 05 2011 17:41 Toxi78 wrote: Plateau de Shakuras (173).SC2Replay Yesterday 4 juillet 2011, 21:08:03 => my previous round's game I can make a screenshot if you really want it. check the time on the first chatlog too. i have no idea what kind of bullshit he actually invented, maybe he told the admins either of us won when it wasnt true, then the admin updated the grid, then he said we were playing something else when we were actually playing the round, and convinced them to get a defwin.
He came out with the intention to mislead by not stating he was playing in a different cup. It took until someone proved he was in GameCreds vs Stephano that he admitted it, at which he loses all credibility and any chance, in my eyes, to feature in any cup of similar nature.
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If I can remember correctly TL.net has a policy to not support such tournaments as this Competo Cup that screw over their players. Is TL.net going to take Competo Cup off their Schedules and streaming list?
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+ Show Spoiler +On July 06 2011 22:06 -Archangel- wrote: If I can remember correctly TL.net has a policy to not support such tournaments as this Competo Cup that screw over their players. Is TL.net going to take Competo Cup off their Schedules and streaming list?
i doubt it; however, without a response from the competo cup admins and without some kind of demonstrable change to the way they handle this type of situation i can't imagine that the audience (thats basically us and not many others, amirite?) will even bother checking on the stream.
i for one will refuse to give any attention to the actual cup if they simply ignore the pretty hardcore drilling they've been given here.
its funny, imho because it was the admins that are basically throwing this thing in the garbage and it isnt surprising really considering how so many people throughout the entire thread have pointed out that the admins are pretty much afk in irc during large portions of the tourney
does anyone know the competo admins well enough to illicit some kind of response to this?
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