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lunchforthesky
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom967 Posts
June 25 2011 20:15 GMT
#7601
On June 26 2011 05:13 cheesemaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 05:09 oskarla wrote:
On June 26 2011 05:07 Olinim wrote:
On June 26 2011 05:04 oskarla wrote:
On June 26 2011 05:00 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On June 26 2011 04:57 oskarla wrote:
On June 26 2011 04:54 lunchforthesky wrote:
On June 26 2011 04:44 Kimzao wrote:
On June 26 2011 04:39 lunchforthesky wrote:
On June 26 2011 04:34 mholden02 wrote:
MC has great mechanics, great player. But naniwa's decision making is superb, top 2-3 in the world. Nestea type decision making.

I don't like giving Protoss compliments, but the guy makes expert decisions time and time again. Well done dude.


MC is a far better player than Naniwa, it's not close. He's much more consistant, has won far more tournaments and is better in every matchup.

Granted that MC has won bigger tournaments due to playing on a bigger stage (doesn't get much bigger than GSL) but Naniwa has been pretty damn consistant these last couple of months.


Has he? After MLG he did okay in MLG in the easiest group but lost to Slush/Losira and MC.

In WCG Sweden he lost to Morrow

In TSL3 he lost to Thorzain in the final

In Road to Korea he lost to Sase in the final.

In Dreamhack he lost to Moon.

He's been there or thereabouts in most things but he should have done better than he did.


In MLG MC lost to Losira.

In GSL May MC lost to Polt in the Ro32

In GSL Super tournament he lost to Alicia in Ro64

In Dreamhack he lost to Bomber in Ro8

In Home story cup 3 he lost to Naniwa in the semi-finals of the upper bracket


I daresay most of those players MC lost to are superior to the ones Naniwa lost to.


You still can't make the argument that MC has showed more consistent results if he has lost earlier in the tournaments he has participated in. Also, both of them lost to Losira in MLG, Naniwa lost to Moon in Dreamhack who won against Bomber.

, MC He won stars war, major tourney. Nani played well grats to him but saying naniwa>MC is laughable even in pvp and if you think that overall then seriously lol.


Naniwa hasn't even participated in GSL and Starwars so you can't really compare the two until they've participated in the same tournaments. I mean, Naniwa is a MLG Champion, is MC that?

Yea naniwa was MLG champion when no koreans were there, doesnt really mean that much. Mc has won 2 gsl's and he has gotten taken out by many koreans worse then MC such as nada in NASL, he lost to MC at MLG. I dont understand how people can come to these conclusions after 1 best of 3 pvp where the score was 2-1. That is just ridiculous. I dont think naniwa's results can even be considered anywhere close to mc's and i highly doubt naniwa is going to go on to win GSL in the next few months. Sure he could do well after spending alot of time in korea, but if we are talking about right now he is not even anywhere near MC.



Indeed.

Naniwa = MLG Dallas

MC = GSL Open 3, GSL March, Dreamhack Invitational, Copenhagen Games, Stars War.
Manimal_pro
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania991 Posts
June 25 2011 20:15 GMT
#7602
tarson going for the drunkard look )
If you like brood war, please go play brood war and stop whining about SC2
Arc1
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland849 Posts
June 25 2011 20:15 GMT
#7603
Hahahaha oh wow, did you guys checked TL Open results so far? :D
Nothing to add.
DrakeFZX3
Profile Joined October 2010
United States925 Posts
June 25 2011 20:15 GMT
#7604
On June 26 2011 05:04 oskarla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 05:00 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On June 26 2011 04:57 oskarla wrote:
On June 26 2011 04:54 lunchforthesky wrote:
On June 26 2011 04:44 Kimzao wrote:
On June 26 2011 04:39 lunchforthesky wrote:
On June 26 2011 04:34 mholden02 wrote:
MC has great mechanics, great player. But naniwa's decision making is superb, top 2-3 in the world. Nestea type decision making.

I don't like giving Protoss compliments, but the guy makes expert decisions time and time again. Well done dude.


MC is a far better player than Naniwa, it's not close. He's much more consistant, has won far more tournaments and is better in every matchup.

Granted that MC has won bigger tournaments due to playing on a bigger stage (doesn't get much bigger than GSL) but Naniwa has been pretty damn consistant these last couple of months.


Has he? After MLG he did okay in MLG in the easiest group but lost to Slush/Losira and MC.

In WCG Sweden he lost to Morrow

In TSL3 he lost to Thorzain in the final

In Road to Korea he lost to Sase in the final.

In Dreamhack he lost to Moon.

He's been there or thereabouts in most things but he should have done better than he did.


In MLG MC lost to Losira.

In GSL May MC lost to Polt in the Ro32

In GSL Super tournament he lost to Alicia in Ro64

In Dreamhack he lost to Bomber in Ro8

In Home story cup 3 he lost to Naniwa in the semi-finals of the upper bracket


I daresay most of those players MC lost to are superior to the ones Naniwa lost to.


You still can't make the argument that MC has showed more consistent results if he has lost earlier in the tournaments he has participated in. Also, both of them lost to Losira in MLG, Naniwa lost to Moon in Dreamhack who won against Bomber.


Well it looks pretty good if the only ones that knock out MC are his fellow GSL korean players. This was the first time a Non-Korean has beaten MC in a LAN tournament.

Naniwa is a beast in his own right, but MC is the more consistent player.

Which is why I'm incredibly excited to see Naniwa in Code A in August. I'm huge fans of both Protoss players.
smallerk
Profile Joined October 2010
897 Posts
June 25 2011 20:15 GMT
#7605
On June 26 2011 05:14 Animostas wrote:
So I guess it's Huk vs Naniwa for winner's bracket finals, and then MC vs (Winner of Idra vs Tarson) for loser's bracket finals.


Huk Vs Naniwa for WB finals.

Then winner of Mc vs (winner of idra vs tarson) vs loser of Huk vs Naniwa
Never Regret anything because at one time it was exactly what you wanted.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
June 25 2011 20:15 GMT
#7606
On June 26 2011 05:14 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 05:11 Denzil wrote:
On June 26 2011 05:09 thoradycus wrote:
On June 26 2011 05:08 thoradycus wrote:
On June 26 2011 05:06 DyEnasTy wrote:
On June 25 2011 16:21 dAPhREAk wrote:
idra switching to terran...... nooooooooooooooo



wait what?

wtf

??


Idra joining OGS

HyperDub fired from oGs to make room for IdrA.


Cella fired from SlayerS to make room for new coach HyperDub.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
June 25 2011 20:15 GMT
#7607
On June 26 2011 05:14 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 05:12 Kevan wrote:
On June 26 2011 05:10 SmoKim wrote:
On June 26 2011 05:09 InDaHouse wrote:
Sucks that ThorZain lost -_-.
Tarson will just get rolled by IdrA.


Thorzain would have been rolled by IdrA too, wouldn't make a difference


Thorzain rolled Idra at MLG Columbus.


Idra won his group easily. Thorzain said he didn't feel Idra put any effort into the match.


Well Thorzain had played in the open bracket for the entire day before that so..
SC2, rip in pepperinos
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
June 25 2011 20:16 GMT
#7608
I love the perfect line-up of shots, MC pulls out his phone, cut to Tarson reaching into his bag and checking his phone.

My imagination suggests that MC just texted Tarson, "Yo, 2-0 IdrA for me, bro".
whiteLotus
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
1833 Posts
June 25 2011 20:16 GMT
#7609
RADIO GAGA !!! queen again <3 loving this playlist, everyday they put some queen !
The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame
furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
June 25 2011 20:16 GMT
#7610
On June 26 2011 05:13 landmarktiger wrote:
Is it just me or these guys eat way too much - everytime i see they are always eating


Agree lol, it seems like BBQ never stops!
Leenock the Punisher
Switchy
Profile Joined June 2011
343 Posts
June 25 2011 20:16 GMT
#7611
Tarson is looking really strong right now but his TvZ is looking like his weakest matchup. So i guess the gracken will beat him again.
Demonaz
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1219 Posts
June 25 2011 20:16 GMT
#7612
What stage of the tourney is it at? I've just been on TL first time in two days and seen this, looks pretty cool. Starcraft party? haha
Naught
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Denmark59 Posts
June 25 2011 20:16 GMT
#7613
Tarson looks really tired...
'Why kill Menkus!?' - MC
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
June 25 2011 20:16 GMT
#7614
On June 26 2011 05:13 cheesemaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 05:09 oskarla wrote:
On June 26 2011 05:07 Olinim wrote:
On June 26 2011 05:04 oskarla wrote:
On June 26 2011 05:00 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On June 26 2011 04:57 oskarla wrote:
On June 26 2011 04:54 lunchforthesky wrote:
On June 26 2011 04:44 Kimzao wrote:
On June 26 2011 04:39 lunchforthesky wrote:
On June 26 2011 04:34 mholden02 wrote:
MC has great mechanics, great player. But naniwa's decision making is superb, top 2-3 in the world. Nestea type decision making.

I don't like giving Protoss compliments, but the guy makes expert decisions time and time again. Well done dude.


MC is a far better player than Naniwa, it's not close. He's much more consistant, has won far more tournaments and is better in every matchup.

Granted that MC has won bigger tournaments due to playing on a bigger stage (doesn't get much bigger than GSL) but Naniwa has been pretty damn consistant these last couple of months.


Has he? After MLG he did okay in MLG in the easiest group but lost to Slush/Losira and MC.

In WCG Sweden he lost to Morrow

In TSL3 he lost to Thorzain in the final

In Road to Korea he lost to Sase in the final.

In Dreamhack he lost to Moon.

He's been there or thereabouts in most things but he should have done better than he did.


In MLG MC lost to Losira.

In GSL May MC lost to Polt in the Ro32

In GSL Super tournament he lost to Alicia in Ro64

In Dreamhack he lost to Bomber in Ro8

In Home story cup 3 he lost to Naniwa in the semi-finals of the upper bracket


I daresay most of those players MC lost to are superior to the ones Naniwa lost to.


You still can't make the argument that MC has showed more consistent results if he has lost earlier in the tournaments he has participated in. Also, both of them lost to Losira in MLG, Naniwa lost to Moon in Dreamhack who won against Bomber.

, MC He won stars war, major tourney. Nani played well grats to him but saying naniwa>MC is laughable even in pvp and if you think that overall then seriously lol.


Naniwa hasn't even participated in GSL and Starwars so you can't really compare the two until they've participated in the same tournaments. I mean, Naniwa is a MLG Champion, is MC that?

Yea naniwa was MLG champion when no koreans were there, doesnt really mean that much. Mc has won 2 gsl's and naniwa has gotten taken out by many koreans worse then MC such as nada in NASL, he lost to MC at MLG. I dont understand how people can come to these conclusions after 1 best of 3 pvp where the score was 2-1. That is just ridiculous. I dont think naniwa's results can even be considered anywhere close to mc's and i highly doubt naniwa is going to go on to win GSL in the next few months. Sure he could do well after spending alot of time in korea, but if we are talking about right now he is not even anywhere near MC.



How is he not "anywhere near" MC if he just won against him in a BO3 lol. Apparently he can at least compete with him so I wouldn't say he isn't anywhere near him...
SaSe fan club manager
lunchforthesky
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom967 Posts
June 25 2011 20:16 GMT
#7615
Thorzain is so inconsistant, he can look so good sometimes but he gets knocked out of tournaments way too much by guys he shouldn't be losing to.
dangerjoe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark1866 Posts
June 25 2011 20:16 GMT
#7616
[image loading]
Ask Beavis, I get nothing Butt-head
rpgalon
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil1069 Posts
June 25 2011 20:16 GMT
#7617
On June 26 2011 05:13 Jampackedeon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 05:12 Caphe wrote:
Man, I feel for MC. Hes not be able to communicate nor having fun with all the foreigners there. Must be quite tedious for him.


MC actually speaks pretty good English, so I don't think that is it at all.


he looked a bit bored and sad...
badog
marvin.
Profile Joined August 2010
United States469 Posts
June 25 2011 20:16 GMT
#7618
i just tuned in - results aren't updated, but you guys are saying thorzain lost... is that against MC?
LadyBee
Profile Joined August 2009
Germany97 Posts
June 25 2011 20:16 GMT
#7619
Song before Queen was Patty Griffin - Change.
And on a side note, I'm not associated with ESL. I'm here for TaKeTV.
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
June 25 2011 20:16 GMT
#7620
On June 26 2011 05:15 lunchforthesky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 05:13 cheesemaster wrote:
On June 26 2011 05:09 oskarla wrote:
On June 26 2011 05:07 Olinim wrote:
On June 26 2011 05:04 oskarla wrote:
On June 26 2011 05:00 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On June 26 2011 04:57 oskarla wrote:
On June 26 2011 04:54 lunchforthesky wrote:
On June 26 2011 04:44 Kimzao wrote:
On June 26 2011 04:39 lunchforthesky wrote:
[quote]

MC is a far better player than Naniwa, it's not close. He's much more consistant, has won far more tournaments and is better in every matchup.

Granted that MC has won bigger tournaments due to playing on a bigger stage (doesn't get much bigger than GSL) but Naniwa has been pretty damn consistant these last couple of months.


Has he? After MLG he did okay in MLG in the easiest group but lost to Slush/Losira and MC.

In WCG Sweden he lost to Morrow

In TSL3 he lost to Thorzain in the final

In Road to Korea he lost to Sase in the final.

In Dreamhack he lost to Moon.

He's been there or thereabouts in most things but he should have done better than he did.


In MLG MC lost to Losira.

In GSL May MC lost to Polt in the Ro32

In GSL Super tournament he lost to Alicia in Ro64

In Dreamhack he lost to Bomber in Ro8

In Home story cup 3 he lost to Naniwa in the semi-finals of the upper bracket


I daresay most of those players MC lost to are superior to the ones Naniwa lost to.


You still can't make the argument that MC has showed more consistent results if he has lost earlier in the tournaments he has participated in. Also, both of them lost to Losira in MLG, Naniwa lost to Moon in Dreamhack who won against Bomber.

, MC He won stars war, major tourney. Nani played well grats to him but saying naniwa>MC is laughable even in pvp and if you think that overall then seriously lol.


Naniwa hasn't even participated in GSL and Starwars so you can't really compare the two until they've participated in the same tournaments. I mean, Naniwa is a MLG Champion, is MC that?

Yea naniwa was MLG champion when no koreans were there, doesnt really mean that much. Mc has won 2 gsl's and he has gotten taken out by many koreans worse then MC such as nada in NASL, he lost to MC at MLG. I dont understand how people can come to these conclusions after 1 best of 3 pvp where the score was 2-1. That is just ridiculous. I dont think naniwa's results can even be considered anywhere close to mc's and i highly doubt naniwa is going to go on to win GSL in the next few months. Sure he could do well after spending alot of time in korea, but if we are talking about right now he is not even anywhere near MC.



Indeed.

Naniwa = MLG Dallas

MC = GSL Open 3, GSL March, Dreamhack Invitational, Copenhagen Games, Stars War.


Naniwa won a GSL. + Show Spoiler +
Gadget show live ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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