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AnalThermometer
Profile Joined February 2011
Vatican City State334 Posts
June 25 2011 18:34 GMT
#5521
As a Protoss I can't see blink stalkers staying as they are PvZ, they're just too easy to use when you can empty the built up minerals during micro with 6-8+ warp gates. Also the "just made roaches" argument is equally as stupid as the "just made marauders" argument, they're a core unit.
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-25 18:36:08
June 25 2011 18:34 GMT
#5522
Huk's blink micro was disgusting for most of that battle. He sometimes blinked forward, losing a few stalkers, and would blink all of them back rather than doing proper blink micro. He should have totally crushed Idra on that push.

This game was a BO loss basically, seeing as Toss will usually be ahead mid-game on this map and while both are blind, it's the zerg that needs the counter, not the other way around.
HawtLove
Profile Joined May 2011
United States113 Posts
June 25 2011 18:34 GMT
#5523
I don't think I've ever seen IdrA beat mass blink stalker in a tourney. Maybe his reaction time kinda screwed him, overreacted to the pressure and didnt have any drones to macro up qq. Very well played by Huk though.
"When the game is over, the king and the pawn go back to the same box."
Throat
Profile Joined November 2010
United States156 Posts
June 25 2011 18:34 GMT
#5524
IdrA scouts 6 gate, cuts drones to defend, HuK decides not to 6 gate, IdrA behind on drones and tech because he needed to defend the 6 gate, Protoss players tell IdrA to go Hydra Ling with Fungal Growth.

Pretty sick.
Zinnwaldite
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1567 Posts
June 25 2011 18:35 GMT
#5525
fuck roaches,, just make 300 lings... ^_^

the roach made me switch from zerg to terran,, i hate that fucking bug-unit. *_*
We promise with a view to hope, but the reason to "accomplish" what we promised would be fear.
dpL
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden571 Posts
June 25 2011 18:35 GMT
#5526
On June 26 2011 03:33 babishh wrote:
who's this carmac? his cast was so sloppy..

He's a event organizer/esports guy from Germany. Also, he's also got an alter ego:
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
June 25 2011 18:35 GMT
#5527
On June 26 2011 03:34 VenerableSpace wrote:
huk was 3-0 on upgrades whereas idra was only 1-0. theres no reason he shoulda won that anyways.

Give credit where its due, huk outplayed idra in this bo3.

Yes, because Zerg has chronoboost as well and can get +3 at the same time as toss
kheldorin
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore539 Posts
June 25 2011 18:35 GMT
#5528
On June 26 2011 03:33 taLbuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 03:32 Skyze wrote:
so funny how whenever IdrA loses, theres 50 pages of balance whiners..

3 spine crawlers, or 1 infestor.. and game over for Huk. Simple really.


this comment is so bias it makes the idra whiners look tame


You're joking right? It's pretty obvious that everytime Idra loses. The thread just blows into a whine fest.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
June 25 2011 18:35 GMT
#5529
wow, I guess I forgot about 50 pages cause I haven't seen it.

there have been maybe 10 people whining.


It's just beginning. The residual droplets will be felt for hours yet.
Pochtli
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland690 Posts
June 25 2011 18:35 GMT
#5530
On June 26 2011 03:34 Mithriel wrote:
who's sitting next to MC playing in the player room? Dont recognize him.


Naama.
ㅈㅈ
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
June 25 2011 18:35 GMT
#5531
On June 26 2011 03:32 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 03:31 R3N wrote:
On June 26 2011 03:30 hi_0 wrote:
IdrA needed hydras against all of those stalkers. Roaches just don't cut it.


yep. also don't like the infestor in this situation. costs way too much.

lol, whenever he goes hydras against blink stalkers people say he needs infestors. whenever he goes infestors, people say he needs hydras. it came down to the upgrades, the late roach speed, no burrow, shit like that. not just what units he did/didn't get

Or for this specific time dropping a couple spine crawlers would have almost completely denied that push by HuK and giving him time to get his extra base up and infestors to RoflStomp through HuKs army. Sloppy decision making cost Idra that game had nothing to do with balance...
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
ImHuko
Profile Joined December 2010
United States996 Posts
June 25 2011 18:35 GMT
#5532
1 Infestor wouldn't have changed much, Infestor is more for damage now than actually locking stuff down. Old infestors would have helped bigtime for Idra though, the problem is locking them down, new Infestor doesn't really do that well.
RealQ
Profile Joined March 2011
1120 Posts
June 25 2011 18:35 GMT
#5533
On June 26 2011 03:32 imPERSONater wrote:
Anyone know how IdrA could have done better? Seemed like he was in a good position, but blink stalkers are just so cost effective.


He overreacted to huk's 6gate which just put him behind and huk exploited it by expanding and going blinkstalkers
-Strider-
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico1605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-25 18:35:22
June 25 2011 18:35 GMT
#5534
what were idra's upgrades?
What is up? IM NESTEAAAA!
VirtuallyJesse
Profile Joined February 2011
United States398 Posts
June 25 2011 18:35 GMT
#5535
On June 26 2011 03:33 Nivyan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 03:32 SushilS wrote:
HUKKKKKKKKKKKKKK.
And Idra needs to learn how to deal with Blink rather than be mind-blocked about it!


Got a suggestion?

Teched asap to infestors- They came out when roaches were dead.

Hydras might have been out quicker - but without range upgrade they aren't doing very much dps with roaches in such a corridor.

Don't see how idrA could have handled the situation better at all.

He had plenty of minerals, low on gas, he could of thrown down a few spines. He had what - 900 mins near the end there?
mengsk83
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany519 Posts
June 25 2011 18:35 GMT
#5536
I think Huk played that very well and i dont think the imbalance whining about blink stalkers is right, but i dont think that a few spines would have made any difference. with stalkers at +3 they just die in 1 volley and deal litterally no damage at all.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 25 2011 18:35 GMT
#5537
That was really impressive control by HUK. That could have gone south win one bad click or blink.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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BlindDruid
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany653 Posts
June 25 2011 18:35 GMT
#5538
IDra should ask Stephano a bit more abpout "infestors" and "how to HUK" - he seems to know pretty well - he whiped the floor with HUK.

If you want to know "how to play against Protoss and demolishing them" - when the VODs are out: watch stephano vs HUK and stop ballance whining ; )
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
June 25 2011 18:35 GMT
#5539
On June 26 2011 03:33 lawwwl wrote:
tbh, i can understand idra

me too, although he was very close to winning. infestor out a few seconds earlier would've won it.
Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
June 25 2011 18:35 GMT
#5540
On June 26 2011 03:34 Kraznaya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 03:33 SEANSYE wrote:
HuK practices all day, while IdrA bashes the game and think he's head and shoulders everyone.


This

oGs house 8 hours practice >>> 3 hours practice on NA ladder and a lot of bitching on SOTG

Excellent point. HuK has said he's frustrated in the past but he works so fucking hard instead of saying "well I'm not supposed to win"
Stork HerO and Protoss everywhere - redfive on bnet
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