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just started watching, who's steak?
nvm, its stalife
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On June 12 2011 10:57 KotaOnCue wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 10:53 Stanlot wrote:
I'm appalled that some people took those last two games seriously >.>
Enjoy that last series for what it was: a game played merely for fun with almost nothing on the line :D http://literallyunbelievable.orgJust remember, if its on the internet, it is totally, 100% true and everybody is taking everything seriously. Like those last two games.
You just brought me my entertainment for the rest of the night. I thank you, good sir.
Also, can someone explain to me why Select wouldn't want the #1 seed? Why is it detrimental?
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On June 12 2011 10:59 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 10:58 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:58 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:57 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:57 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:56 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:56 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:55 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:54 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:54 Drazerk wrote:
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Both players getting barracks 2:30 Both players finish their gas 3:40 Factory on the way for Both players along with a second gas 4:40
Both players getting Startports Steak getting a tech lab 5:00 Tech lab on the way for Brat_Ok 6:00 Raven on the way for Brat_Ok Banshee + Cloak for Steak 6:40 Command centre on the way for Brat_Ok 7:00 Siege tech on the way for Brat Command centre now on the way for Steak 8:00 Stim starts for Brat 9:00 Bio +1 on the way for Steak
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Stim now starting for Steak
Command centres now up and running for both players getting both gasses
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On June 12 2011 10:55 MCDayC wrote:
Okay, time to put my serious face on:
That was actually really bad. Not cause of the quality of games (they were awesome!), but because of the major problems that the NASL system has. Select threw away a game to benefit from the seeding, which is really bad, and should never take place. There should always be an incentive to win.
More importantly, MC got an unfair seeding advantage by getting a free win. Whoever played Select last would be guaranteed a win, whereas in all the other games of the season Select was playing the games to win. MC's free win puts him at advantage, seeding wise over lots of other players in the tournament.
Admittedly, it's not an actual problem, and I doubt that there will be major repercussions from this, but it does show the disaster that is NASL pool play format.
BUT! We got to BCs and Carriers. So I'm happy.
Lol it was MC. Unfair seeding advantage? He is the best player in the tournament (some people might argue but I doubt it), he's playing cross-server. In the lan setting his seeding is irrelevant, he'll probably crush face. If he had done it to someone else I would be pretty annoyed as well though, but it's hard to say if SelecT would blatantly throw games like that if it was some other NA player.
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On June 12 2011 10:59 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 10:59 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:58 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:58 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:57 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:57 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:56 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:56 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:55 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:54 Drazerk wrote:
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2:30
Both players finish their gas
3:40 Factory on the way for Both players along with a second gas 4:40
Both players getting Startports Steak getting a tech lab 5:00 Tech lab on the way for Brat_Ok 6:00 Raven on the way for Brat_Ok Banshee + Cloak for Steak 6:40 Command centre on the way for Brat_Ok 7:00 Siege tech on the way for Brat Command centre now on the way for Steak 8:00 Stim starts for Brat 9:00 Bio +1 on the way for Steak 9:45 Stim now starting for Steak Command centres now up and running for both players getting both gasses
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Brat_ok loses a ton of units to the siege line of Stake
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On June 12 2011 11:00 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 10:59 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:59 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:58 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:58 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:57 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:57 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:56 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:56 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:55 Drazerk wrote:
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Factory on the way for Both players along with a second gas
4:40
Both players getting Startports Steak getting a tech lab 5:00 Tech lab on the way for Brat_Ok 6:00 Raven on the way for Brat_Ok Banshee + Cloak for Steak 6:40 Command centre on the way for Brat_Ok 7:00 Siege tech on the way for Brat Command centre now on the way for Steak 8:00 Stim starts for Brat 9:00 Bio +1 on the way for Steak 9:45 Stim now starting for Steak Command centres now up and running for both players getting both gasses 11:00 Brat_ok loses a ton of units to the siege line of Stake
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Third base on the way for Brat_Ok
Steak loses a drop ship
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On June 12 2011 11:01 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 11:00 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:59 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:59 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:58 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:58 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:57 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:57 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:56 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:56 Drazerk wrote:
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Both players getting Startports
Steak getting a tech lab 5:00 Tech lab on the way for Brat_Ok 6:00 Raven on the way for Brat_Ok Banshee + Cloak for Steak 6:40 Command centre on the way for Brat_Ok 7:00 Siege tech on the way for Brat Command centre now on the way for Steak 8:00 Stim starts for Brat 9:00 Bio +1 on the way for Steak 9:45 Stim now starting for Steak Command centres now up and running for both players getting both gasses 11:00 Brat_ok loses a ton of units to the siege line of Stake 11:45 Third base on the way for Brat_Ok Steak loses a drop ship
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Third base on the way for Steak
Both players fighting for the XN watch tower
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On June 12 2011 10:59 Stanlot wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 10:57 KotaOnCue wrote:On June 12 2011 10:53 Stanlot wrote:
I'm appalled that some people took those last two games seriously >.>
Enjoy that last series for what it was: a game played merely for fun with almost nothing on the line :D http://literallyunbelievable.orgJust remember, if its on the internet, it is totally, 100% true and everybody is taking everything seriously. Like those last two games. You just brought me my entertainment for the rest of the night. I thank you, good sir. Also, can someone explain to me why Select wouldn't want the #1 seed? Why is it detrimental?
#1 seed has to play the winner of the giant open bracket.
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On June 12 2011 10:59 Duravi wrote:Show nested quote +Is this your first time watching a sports style event that has a regular season and playoffs? This stuff happens all the time. There's literally nothing wrong with it. In sports events teams want the #1 overall seed. In NASL nobody does.
Alright now that's a fair point, but that isn't really a problem with the format. That's just player mentality thinking the open tourney winner will be a strong opponent compared to a lower seeded NASL player. That may or may not be true, you can't know. Personally I think the open winner will be incredibly good, but what are you going to do, give him a #1 seed instead of a last place seed? You can't just plop him in the middle seeds either. It only makes sense to give him a last place seed.
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On June 12 2011 11:01 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 11:01 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 11:00 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:59 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:59 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:58 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:58 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:57 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:57 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:56 Drazerk wrote:
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Tech lab on the way for Brat_Ok 6:00 Raven on the way for Brat_Ok Banshee + Cloak for Steak 6:40 Command centre on the way for Brat_Ok 7:00 Siege tech on the way for Brat Command centre now on the way for Steak 8:00 Stim starts for Brat 9:00 Bio +1 on the way for Steak 9:45 Stim now starting for Steak Command centres now up and running for both players getting both gasses 11:00 Brat_ok loses a ton of units to the siege line of Stake 11:45 Third base on the way for Brat_Ok Steak loses a drop ship 12:30 Third base on the way for Steak Both players fighting for the XN watch tower
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Brat_Ok lands his vikings allowing him to attack the siege line of Steak
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On June 12 2011 11:02 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 11:01 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 11:01 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 11:00 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:59 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:59 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:58 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:58 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:57 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:57 Drazerk wrote:
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Raven on the way for Brat_Ok
Banshee + Cloak for Steak
6:40 Command centre on the way for Brat_Ok 7:00 Siege tech on the way for Brat Command centre now on the way for Steak 8:00 Stim starts for Brat 9:00 Bio +1 on the way for Steak 9:45 Stim now starting for Steak Command centres now up and running for both players getting both gasses 11:00 Brat_ok loses a ton of units to the siege line of Stake 11:45 Third base on the way for Brat_Ok Steak loses a drop ship 12:30 Third base on the way for Steak Both players fighting for the XN watch tower 13:30 Brat_Ok lands his vikings allowing him to attack the siege line of Steak
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Steak kills the Third Command centre of Brat_Ok
Brat_Ok is trying to take out the army of Steak
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On June 12 2011 11:02 Moonwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 10:59 Duravi wrote:Is this your first time watching a sports style event that has a regular season and playoffs? This stuff happens all the time. There's literally nothing wrong with it. In sports events teams want the #1 overall seed. In NASL nobody does. Alright now that's a fair point, but that isn't really a problem with the format. That's just player mentality thinking the open tourney winner will be a strong opponent compared to a lower seeded NASL player. That may or may not be true, you can't know. Personally I think the open winner will be incredibly good, but what are you going to do, give him a #1 seed instead of a last place seed? You can't just plop him in the middle seeds either. It only makes sense to give him a last place seed.
In future seasons better players will filter into division play and worse players will filter out, so it will become less and less of an issue.
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On June 12 2011 11:03 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 11:02 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 11:01 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 11:01 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 11:00 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:59 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:59 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:58 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:58 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:57 Drazerk wrote:
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6:40
Command centre on the way for Brat_Ok
7:00 Siege tech on the way for Brat Command centre now on the way for Steak 8:00 Stim starts for Brat 9:00 Bio +1 on the way for Steak 9:45 Stim now starting for Steak Command centres now up and running for both players getting both gasses 11:00 Brat_ok loses a ton of units to the siege line of Stake 11:45 Third base on the way for Brat_Ok Steak loses a drop ship 12:30 Third base on the way for Steak Both players fighting for the XN watch tower 13:30 Brat_Ok lands his vikings allowing him to attack the siege line of Steak 14:30 Steak kills the Third Command centre of Brat_Ok Brat_Ok is trying to take out the army of Steak
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Steak is moving down the map
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On June 12 2011 11:03 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 11:03 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 11:02 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 11:01 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 11:01 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 11:00 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:59 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:59 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:58 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:58 Drazerk wrote:
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Siege tech on the way for Brat
Command centre now on the way for Steak 8:00 Stim starts for Brat 9:00 Bio +1 on the way for Steak 9:45 Stim now starting for Steak Command centres now up and running for both players getting both gasses 11:00 Brat_ok loses a ton of units to the siege line of Stake 11:45 Third base on the way for Brat_Ok Steak loses a drop ship 12:30 Third base on the way for Steak Both players fighting for the XN watch tower 13:30 Brat_Ok lands his vikings allowing him to attack the siege line of Steak 14:30 Steak kills the Third Command centre of Brat_Ok Brat_Ok is trying to take out the army of Steak 15:30 Steak is moving down the map
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the armies of both players meet at the Xel'naga
Brat_Ok gets a better Concave and wins the battle
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On June 12 2011 11:02 Moonwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 10:59 Duravi wrote:Is this your first time watching a sports style event that has a regular season and playoffs? This stuff happens all the time. There's literally nothing wrong with it. In sports events teams want the #1 overall seed. In NASL nobody does. Alright now that's a fair point, but that isn't really a problem with the format. That's just player mentality thinking the open tourney winner will be a strong opponent compared to a lower seeded NASL player. That may or may not be true, you can't know. Personally I think the open winner will be incredibly good, but what are you going to do, give him a #1 seed instead of a last place seed? You can't just plop him in the middle seeds either. It only makes sense to give him a last place seed.
IMO, they should allow #1 to #8 seeds pick their opponents in order from #9 to #16 seeds. That would lead to people actually caring for their seed.
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On June 12 2011 11:04 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 11:03 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 11:03 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 11:02 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 11:01 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 11:01 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 11:00 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:59 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:59 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:58 Drazerk wrote:
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Stim starts for Brat 9:00 Bio +1 on the way for Steak 9:45 Stim now starting for Steak Command centres now up and running for both players getting both gasses 11:00 Brat_ok loses a ton of units to the siege line of Stake 11:45 Third base on the way for Brat_Ok Steak loses a drop ship 12:30 Third base on the way for Steak Both players fighting for the XN watch tower 13:30 Brat_Ok lands his vikings allowing him to attack the siege line of Steak 14:30 Steak kills the Third Command centre of Brat_Ok Brat_Ok is trying to take out the army of Steak 15:30 Steak is moving down the map 16:00 the armies of both players meet at the Xel'naga Brat_Ok gets a better Concave and wins the battle
17:30
Brat_Ok looking to do a huge drop
Steak is ready at his third / main
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On June 12 2011 11:03 Drazerk wrote:
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Steak is moving down the map
Sorry I can't take that seriously... LMAO
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On June 12 2011 11:05 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 11:04 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 11:03 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 11:03 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 11:02 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 11:01 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 11:01 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 11:00 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:59 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:59 Drazerk wrote:
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Bio +1 on the way for Steak 9:45 Stim now starting for Steak Command centres now up and running for both players getting both gasses 11:00 Brat_ok loses a ton of units to the siege line of Stake 11:45 Third base on the way for Brat_Ok Steak loses a drop ship 12:30 Third base on the way for Steak Both players fighting for the XN watch tower 13:30 Brat_Ok lands his vikings allowing him to attack the siege line of Steak 14:30 Steak kills the Third Command centre of Brat_Ok Brat_Ok is trying to take out the army of Steak 15:30 Steak is moving down the map 16:00 the armies of both players meet at the Xel'naga Brat_Ok gets a better Concave and wins the battle 17:30 Brat_Ok looking to do a huge drop Steak is ready at his third / main
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Brat_Ok runs up into the third of Steak killing the siege tanks
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On June 12 2011 11:06 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 11:05 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 11:04 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 11:03 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 11:03 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 11:02 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 11:01 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 11:01 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 11:00 Drazerk wrote:On June 12 2011 10:59 Drazerk wrote:
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Stim now starting for Steak
Command centres now up and running for both players getting both gasses 11:00 Brat_ok loses a ton of units to the siege line of Stake 11:45 Third base on the way for Brat_Ok Steak loses a drop ship 12:30 Third base on the way for Steak Both players fighting for the XN watch tower 13:30 Brat_Ok lands his vikings allowing him to attack the siege line of Steak 14:30 Steak kills the Third Command centre of Brat_Ok Brat_Ok is trying to take out the army of Steak 15:30 Steak is moving down the map 16:00 the armies of both players meet at the Xel'naga Brat_Ok gets a better Concave and wins the battle 17:30 Brat_Ok looking to do a huge drop Steak is ready at his third / main 18:30 Brat_Ok runs up into the third of Steak killing the siege tanks
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Brat_Ok cleans up the SCVs at the third killing the base and siegeing at the low ground
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On June 12 2011 11:02 Moonwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 10:59 Duravi wrote:Is this your first time watching a sports style event that has a regular season and playoffs? This stuff happens all the time. There's literally nothing wrong with it. In sports events teams want the #1 overall seed. In NASL nobody does. Alright now that's a fair point, but that isn't really a problem with the format. That's just player mentality thinking the open tourney winner will be a strong opponent compared to a lower seeded NASL player. That may or may not be true, you can't know. Personally I think the open winner will be incredibly good, but what are you going to do, give him a #1 seed instead of a last place seed? You can't just plop him in the middle seeds either. It only makes sense to give him a last place seed.
Have the top seeds pick who they play.
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