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Keikaku
Profile Joined June 2011
United States15 Posts
October 13 2011 00:58 GMT
#2841
Orb, you're a good commentator and I only have one criticism for you.

During the 3rd game between Lots and forGG you missed the Hellions that Lots sent into forGG's main after the small engagement at the Xel'naga Tower. You were talking about Lots terrible gas management and completely awful cloak timing (it was truly, amazingly bad). They got into the base and killed a SCV or two before forGG's Banshee killed them.

Other than that, good job!
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 01:04:54
October 13 2011 01:04 GMT
#2842
On October 13 2011 09:53 alepov wrote:
i dont get it, how can pro's who play 24/7 make such terrible mistakes so early without any pressure?


I think I read an interview with MMA in which he stated Lots is the youngest player on SlayerS and was feeling the pressure just helping him practice for the GSL. He has potential I mean his account is almost always top 25 GM. Terrible game though, will be better once he gets his nerves under control.

Min riding the ZvZ train o.O
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
October 13 2011 01:04 GMT
#2843
NsHS.Seal vs. SlayerS.Min is up now! SlayerS.Taeja vs. ST.AcE is after!

http://www.esvtv.com
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
suspiciousbear
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada112 Posts
October 13 2011 01:09 GMT
#2844
On October 13 2011 09:42 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2011 09:41 suspiciousbear wrote:
I think forgg has been playing for much longer than Orb thinks he has. Raptor (one of his accounts according to huk; http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=125729&currentpage=69) has existed since season 1: http://sc2ranks.com/kr/2842545/Raptor/season/1.
So he just recently PUBLICLY switched to sc2, but he's been playing for a while, and only recently has he gone 'pro'. He was masters in season 1, rank 14 grandmasters in season 2. This proves that he's been good for a while. Joining oGs probably helps him get EVEN BETTER, but he hasn't JUST switched to SC2 like Orb thinks. Just letting him know so Orb can commentate on him better, otherwise I love his casting, haven't heard much but I think he's the best solo caster from the little that I've heard on the Korean Weeklies.

He also has his accounts Fin and Apex, both in GM league, though I don't know how many seasons each of them has been active for.. but yes, he has been playing for quite some time, just not competitively till recently!


ForGG is sick. All three accounts have been Grandmaster since it existed. He was ranked 11, 14, and 30 in season 2, 40, 45, and 50 for season 3, now that he probably plays more customs with oGs than ladder games. I'm really excited about forGG in the pro scene, I'd love to see him make waves and be a top tier player.
RAPiDCasting
Profile Joined July 2009
Korea (South)594 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 01:13:08
October 13 2011 01:12 GMT
#2845
I came here to watch StarCraft, not see a gold level caster criticize professional Korean progamers. Also, I want to hear about strategies, not "this player has 4 hydras." The show is called the "Korean" weekly, not the orb weekly, so I expected to hear about the Koreans, not Jake QQ about not being famous enough to cast for MLG. As per my recent tweet "According to @orbtl ForGG had 'a nice little run' in Brood War #understatement #learnyourfacts #doyourresearch."

User was warned for this post
The faster caster. @RAPiDCasting
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
October 13 2011 01:14 GMT
#2846
On October 13 2011 10:12 rapidtransit247 wrote:
I came here to watch StarCraft, not see a gold level caster criticize professional Korean progamers. Also, I want to hear about strategies, not "this player has 4 hydras." The show is called the "Korean" weekly, not the orb weekly, so I expected to hear about the Koreans, not Jake QQ about not being famous enough to cast for MLG. As per my recent tweet "According to @orbtl ForGG had 'a nice little run' in Brood War #understatement #learnyourfacts #doyourresearch."


Woah there I think you should calm down.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
woobsauce
Profile Joined August 2011
United States491 Posts
October 13 2011 01:19 GMT
#2847
On October 13 2011 10:12 rapidtransit247 wrote:
I came here to watch StarCraft, not see a gold level caster criticize professional Korean progamers. Also, I want to hear about strategies, not "this player has 4 hydras." The show is called the "Korean" weekly, not the orb weekly, so I expected to hear about the Koreans, not Jake QQ about not being famous enough to cast for MLG. As per my recent tweet "According to @orbtl ForGG had 'a nice little run' in Brood War #understatement #learnyourfacts #doyourresearch."


You seem....upset. Orb has done a pretty amazing job casting, and does some pretty damn good in game analysis.
Nakama
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany584 Posts
October 13 2011 01:22 GMT
#2848
On October 13 2011 10:12 rapidtransit247 wrote:
I came here to watch StarCraft, not see a gold level caster criticize professional Korean progamers. Also, I want to hear about strategies, not "this player has 4 hydras." The show is called the "Korean" weekly, not the orb weekly, so I expected to hear about the Koreans, not Jake QQ about not being famous enough to cast for MLG. As per my recent tweet "According to @orbtl ForGG had 'a nice little run' in Brood War #understatement #learnyourfacts #doyourresearch."


Whats wrong with u ?? Calm down dude, its a nice cast till now and if u dont like it ok but maybe be a bit more mannered whith ur critizicm.
RAPiDCasting
Profile Joined July 2009
Korea (South)594 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 03:04:42
October 13 2011 01:23 GMT
#2849
Woah there I think you should calm down.

You seem....upset. Orb has done a pretty amazing job casting, and does some pretty damn good in game analysis.

I'd like responses to my comments, if you don't mind.
The faster caster. @RAPiDCasting
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
October 13 2011 01:27 GMT
#2850
On October 13 2011 10:23 rapidtransit247 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Woah there I think you should calm down.

Show nested quote +
You seem....upset. Orb has done a pretty amazing job casting, and does some pretty damn good in game analysis.

I'd like responses to my criticisms, if you don't mind.


Your post was NOT criticism, it was outright caster bashing.

Manner up.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
October 13 2011 01:29 GMT
#2851
On October 13 2011 10:23 rapidtransit247 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Woah there I think you should calm down.

Show nested quote +
You seem....upset. Orb has done a pretty amazing job casting, and does some pretty damn good in game analysis.

I'd like responses to my criticisms, if you don't mind.


1. This is a free cast and no one is asking you to watch it. If you really hate the caster, don't like the style, then by all means stop watching or mute the caster. Stop bashing Orb.
2. Orb has done more for the community by streaming and casting than many, than I, and most likely you as well, ever will
3. Orb is a pretty intelligent caster. If you watch more of his casts, you will find that he is more astute than many and more right than wrong.
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Nakama
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany584 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 01:40:54
October 13 2011 01:31 GMT
#2852
On October 13 2011 10:23 rapidtransit247 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Woah there I think you should calm down.

Show nested quote +
You seem....upset. Orb has done a pretty amazing job casting, and does some pretty damn good in game analysis.

I'd like responses to my criticisms, if you don't mind.


HAHAH dude noone can respond to the sensless shit u wrote there. Only stupid bashing i dont know what to say. Look at ur own cast and be quiet pls. U are not even near the lvl of him. Maybe thats why u are so angry....
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
October 13 2011 01:38 GMT
#2853
SlayerS.Taeja vs. ST.AcE up next! Going to be sick!

http://www.esvtv.com
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
HauntYou
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada68 Posts
October 13 2011 01:44 GMT
#2854
On October 13 2011 10:23 rapidtransit247 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Woah there I think you should calm down.

Show nested quote +
You seem....upset. Orb has done a pretty amazing job casting, and does some pretty damn good in game analysis.

I'd like responses to my criticisms, if you don't mind.


What criticism? If you came to watch starcraft, then hit the mute and watch it. You don't need to listen.

So far, you've noted:
1) You don't like the fact that he's a "gold level caster" pointing out mistakes of professionals. I assume the implication is that only professionals can criticize professionals. Are you a gold level caster capable of criticizing him? It doesn't matter.

2) You don't think you've heard enough about strategies (which is subjective and arguable at best). This might be a valid point if it weren't so vague.

3) Yes the show is called the Korean Weekly, and it's featuring two Koreans playing against each other. There might be some filler, but it's not as if we've gone away from the focus of the event. I think we haven't forgotten where we are or what we're doing, and I, for one, don't need you to remind me.

4) I don't know why this community holds lack of BW knowledge as some kind of stigma. ForGG's SC:BW career doesn't impact his SC2 career to the point where mentioning it as a "little nice run" is worthy of indictment. Oh no, someone doesn't fully appreciate ForGG's Arena MSL 08 run! Forgive me if I'm not so quick to burn him at the stake.

I don't know how someone who's apparently done so little (read: nothing) can be so entitled and angry over something that, frankly, doesn't warrant that level of vitriol.

Although I hate this sort of argument, please, show us how it's done. Set up a TRUE KOREAN Weekly, cast it, produce it and demonstrate that, indeed, these perceived transgressions by Orb are worthy of our contempt.

Or realize that your subjective bias is not indicative of a fault of the caster, but rather, personal taste. Valid criticisms can be addressed and rectified, but this is as inane as hating someone's hair. Mute it if you don't like it. Leave if you don't like it. Offer words of advice if there are improvements to be made.

But don't waste people's time with a load of hot air and a handful of nothing.
icarly
Profile Joined August 2011
United States400 Posts
October 13 2011 01:50 GMT
#2855
ForGG looking sick good
RAPiDCasting
Profile Joined July 2009
Korea (South)594 Posts
October 13 2011 01:53 GMT
#2856
On October 13 2011 10:50 icarly wrote:
ForGG looking sick good

Ima go with this
The faster caster. @RAPiDCasting
ImmortalTofu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1254 Posts
October 13 2011 01:55 GMT
#2857
On October 13 2011 10:38 Diamond wrote:
SlayerS.Taeja vs. ST.AcE up next! Going to be sick!

http://www.esvtv.com


2nd time since I started watching last week!
"Friendship ain't a business deal"
owenowens33
Profile Joined April 2010
United States94 Posts
October 13 2011 01:58 GMT
#2858
does blizzard have a legitimate reason for not nerfing emp or snipe range? the fact that ht vs ghost micro battles are impossible for the protoss makes a 200 v 200 battle merely a formality.
Success is never final; failure is rarely fatal.
laharl23
Profile Joined February 2011
United States582 Posts
October 13 2011 01:59 GMT
#2859
that was the strangest game i ever seen
Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
October 13 2011 02:04 GMT
#2860
Haha... why do I even watch these games any more, it's freaking disgusting how bad that fight went. It wasn't even a fight.
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