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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 01:52:20
September 14 2011 01:51 GMT
#2041
On September 14 2011 10:50 Toadvine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 10:47 woobsauce wrote:
TaeJa is sick. I don't know if the casters are reading this thread, but it should be noted that TaeJa is amazing TvP and he NEVER does a 1/1/1 cheese (at least thus far).


Well, basically any good Terran is amazing at TvP nowadays. Can you find me a top Terran with a bad TvP?

MMA and NaDa.

Taeja's always been really good at TvP. Same with Polt and Bomber. Maybe Puma, but I can't really tell since he always seems to 1/1/1 these days.

EDIT: Okay, pretty much every SlayerS Terran (minus Taeja) is really bad at TvP.
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
September 14 2011 01:59 GMT
#2042
On September 14 2011 10:51 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 10:50 Toadvine wrote:
On September 14 2011 10:47 woobsauce wrote:
TaeJa is sick. I don't know if the casters are reading this thread, but it should be noted that TaeJa is amazing TvP and he NEVER does a 1/1/1 cheese (at least thus far).


Well, basically any good Terran is amazing at TvP nowadays. Can you find me a top Terran with a bad TvP?

MMA and NaDa.

Taeja's always been really good at TvP. Same with Polt and Bomber. Maybe Puma, but I can't really tell since he always seems to 1/1/1 these days.

EDIT: Okay, pretty much every SlayerS Terran (minus Taeja) is really bad at TvP.


MMA's TvP is fine. He played some very unfortunate games in it in the past (those up/downs vs HuK, and then losing to DTs vs Puzzle in Code A), but more recently, he looked very good against Naniwa at MLG.

Nada isn't really a top Terran imo, unfortunately. At the very least, whenever I see him play, he looks sloppy and kind of lost.

As for Slayers Terran, Ganzi's TvP is good enough. Ryung beat Puzzle very decisively. Boxer, we don't really see play, so no idea. Who else do they have?
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
woobsauce
Profile Joined August 2011
United States491 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 02:09:35
September 14 2011 02:08 GMT
#2043
On September 14 2011 10:50 Toadvine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 10:47 woobsauce wrote:
TaeJa is sick. I don't know if the casters are reading this thread, but it should be noted that TaeJa is amazing TvP and he NEVER does a 1/1/1 cheese (at least thus far).


Well, basically any good Terran is amazing at TvP nowadays. Can you find me a top Terran with a bad TvP?


beaten to it, nvm. Ty to the gents posting above me :3
OlorinTheWise
Profile Joined May 2010
United States173 Posts
September 14 2011 02:21 GMT
#2044
On September 14 2011 10:59 Toadvine wrote:
Nada isn't really a top Terran imo, unfortunately. At the very least, whenever I see him play, he looks sloppy and kind of lost.


NaDa's play is top tier when he's focused on practicing, but University often gets in the way. It's actually rather easy to see when he's been studying hard for University instead of practicing, as his play falls off rather precipitously.
"Evil, be thou my good."
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
September 14 2011 02:24 GMT
#2045
On September 14 2011 11:21 OlorinTheWise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 10:59 Toadvine wrote:
Nada isn't really a top Terran imo, unfortunately. At the very least, whenever I see him play, he looks sloppy and kind of lost.


NaDa's play is top tier when he's focused on practicing, but University often gets in the way. It's actually rather easy to see when he's been studying hard for University instead of practicing, as his play falls off rather precipitously.


Eh, he was off for summer and his play didn't look remotely better than it did when he was studying.

---

Yay for a third game between Life and Squirtle! ^_^
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
September 14 2011 02:24 GMT
#2046
Infestors are pretty good indeed.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
gengka
Profile Joined September 2010
Malaysia461 Posts
September 14 2011 02:24 GMT
#2047
On September 14 2011 10:59 Toadvine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 10:51 babylon wrote:
On September 14 2011 10:50 Toadvine wrote:
On September 14 2011 10:47 woobsauce wrote:
TaeJa is sick. I don't know if the casters are reading this thread, but it should be noted that TaeJa is amazing TvP and he NEVER does a 1/1/1 cheese (at least thus far).


Well, basically any good Terran is amazing at TvP nowadays. Can you find me a top Terran with a bad TvP?

MMA and NaDa.

Taeja's always been really good at TvP. Same with Polt and Bomber. Maybe Puma, but I can't really tell since he always seems to 1/1/1 these days.

EDIT: Okay, pretty much every SlayerS Terran (minus Taeja) is really bad at TvP.


MMA's TvP is fine. He played some very unfortunate games in it in the past (those up/downs vs HuK, and then losing to DTs vs Puzzle in Code A), but more recently, he looked very good against Naniwa at MLG.

Nada isn't really a top Terran imo, unfortunately. At the very least, whenever I see him play, he looks sloppy and kind of lost.

As for Slayers Terran, Ganzi's TvP is good enough. Ryung beat Puzzle very decisively. Boxer, we don't really see play, so no idea. Who else do they have?



Boxer's TvP is pretty bad. His 1st dropped to code A is due to a lost to a P. (izzit Puzzle?) then lately he lost to Oz n fail to qualify code A.
Make Love Not War
HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
September 14 2011 02:27 GMT
#2048
On September 14 2011 11:24 gengka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 10:59 Toadvine wrote:
On September 14 2011 10:51 babylon wrote:
On September 14 2011 10:50 Toadvine wrote:
On September 14 2011 10:47 woobsauce wrote:
TaeJa is sick. I don't know if the casters are reading this thread, but it should be noted that TaeJa is amazing TvP and he NEVER does a 1/1/1 cheese (at least thus far).


Well, basically any good Terran is amazing at TvP nowadays. Can you find me a top Terran with a bad TvP?

MMA and NaDa.

Taeja's always been really good at TvP. Same with Polt and Bomber. Maybe Puma, but I can't really tell since he always seems to 1/1/1 these days.

EDIT: Okay, pretty much every SlayerS Terran (minus Taeja) is really bad at TvP.


MMA's TvP is fine. He played some very unfortunate games in it in the past (those up/downs vs HuK, and then losing to DTs vs Puzzle in Code A), but more recently, he looked very good against Naniwa at MLG.

Nada isn't really a top Terran imo, unfortunately. At the very least, whenever I see him play, he looks sloppy and kind of lost.

As for Slayers Terran, Ganzi's TvP is good enough. Ryung beat Puzzle very decisively. Boxer, we don't really see play, so no idea. Who else do they have?



Boxer's TvP is pretty bad. His 1st dropped to code A is due to a lost to a P. (izzit Puzzle?) then lately he lost to Oz n fail to qualify code A.

He lost to leenock I think.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
September 14 2011 02:31 GMT
#2049
On September 14 2011 10:59 Toadvine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 10:51 babylon wrote:
On September 14 2011 10:50 Toadvine wrote:
On September 14 2011 10:47 woobsauce wrote:
TaeJa is sick. I don't know if the casters are reading this thread, but it should be noted that TaeJa is amazing TvP and he NEVER does a 1/1/1 cheese (at least thus far).


Well, basically any good Terran is amazing at TvP nowadays. Can you find me a top Terran with a bad TvP?

MMA and NaDa.

Taeja's always been really good at TvP. Same with Polt and Bomber. Maybe Puma, but I can't really tell since he always seems to 1/1/1 these days.

EDIT: Okay, pretty much every SlayerS Terran (minus Taeja) is really bad at TvP.


MMA's TvP is fine. He played some very unfortunate games in it in the past (those up/downs vs HuK, and then losing to DTs vs Puzzle in Code A), but more recently, he looked very good against Naniwa at MLG.

Nada isn't really a top Terran imo, unfortunately. At the very least, whenever I see him play, he looks sloppy and kind of lost.

As for Slayers Terran, Ganzi's TvP is good enough. Ryung beat Puzzle very decisively. Boxer, we don't really see play, so no idea. Who else do they have?

If MMA can't beat Naniwa (esp. pre-Korea), then I'd be really worried about him. I don't think he'd actually decisively win even against HongUn in a TvP.

NaDa's TvT is quite good (which is pretty much the match-up that matters the most these days). His TvZ and TvP are nowhere near as solid, though.

As for SlayerS, there's a reason why everyone was all, "Oh thank god, SlayerS finally has a Protoss sniper for the GSTL," when the news about CoCa broke out. Taeja's good at TvP, of course, but he doesn't dominate anywhere near as hard as CoCa in the vP match-up, especially when you throw the BO1 volatility into the mix. I'd call them MMA, Ganzi, and Ryung mediocre at best, with maybe a few flashes of "decent TvP" in them. Good TvPers are players like Polt, Bomber, and Puma. Then you have Jjakji, Taeja, and MVP as above-average TvPers, two of which haven't really "proven" themselves much in the GSL and one of which ... well, only played a BO1 against MC and a series against a jetlagged Huk while dropping a game to Kiwi at MLG.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
September 14 2011 02:42 GMT
#2050
Oh Life T__T

I have no idea wtf that was xD
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 02:42:58
September 14 2011 02:42 GMT
#2051
Uhhhhhhh, IdrA gg-timing?

BUT YAY, SQUIRTLE!
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
September 14 2011 02:43 GMT
#2052
Have we gone back in time to 8 months ago?
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
September 14 2011 02:45 GMT
#2053
On September 14 2011 11:42 babylon wrote:
Uhhhhhhh, IdrA gg-timing?

BUT YAY, SQUIRTLE!


wut, he was super dead. Like 110 sup in roaches including reinforcements vs 130 in stalkers.

Just don't know what the fuck he was thinking that game, it was like going back in time.

Oh well, yay squirtle indeed =p
Sandro
Profile Joined April 2011
897 Posts
September 14 2011 02:47 GMT
#2054
Thats too bad it had to end early, but there is way too much stuff going on right now. <_<
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
September 14 2011 02:48 GMT
#2055
On September 14 2011 11:47 Sandro wrote:
Thats too bad it had to end early, but there is way too much stuff going on right now. <_<


Yeah just a bad day for everything. Double charity event, MLG's new thing, Day9, IPL, SoTG, etc.

The semis will be soooooooo sick though, it will be worth the wait ^^!
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
woobsauce
Profile Joined August 2011
United States491 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 02:54:59
September 14 2011 02:54 GMT
#2056
This event is amazing, and I cant wait for the semis/finals. Please keep up the awesome work :D
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
September 14 2011 02:59 GMT
#2057
On September 14 2011 11:45 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 11:42 babylon wrote:
Uhhhhhhh, IdrA gg-timing?

BUT YAY, SQUIRTLE!


wut, he was super dead. Like 110 sup in roaches including reinforcements vs 130 in stalkers.

Just don't know what the fuck he was thinking that game, it was like going back in time.

Oh well, yay squirtle indeed =p

I dunno, I still think that he could've put up a decent fight had he not walked all his shit to his fifth(?) to get slaughtered. I mean, it wasn't the best position to be in, but I don't think he was dead 100%.

In any case, Life needs to work on his micro. The most telling part might have been that bit at the beginning where he got all his roaches killed trying to chase down stalkers. C'mon, Life, that's Micro 101. If something runs away while other things are shooting at you, don't chase it and re-target the stuff that's standing still. =/
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 07:13:34
September 14 2011 07:09 GMT
#2058
SlayerS_Boxer in Korean Weekly #10? Yep he just signed up.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
woobsauce
Profile Joined August 2011
United States491 Posts
September 14 2011 07:22 GMT
#2059
On September 14 2011 16:09 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
SlayerS_Boxer in Korean Weekly #10? Yep he just signed up.


On a scale of 1 to baller, this is pretty fucking baller :3
dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 07:27:25
September 14 2011 07:26 GMT
#2060
LOL he wants that code A spot. Can you get it from this finals or only the next ones?

Btw with a skilled protoss player pickup in Puzzle I think slayers terrans will get much better at TvP, it seemed alicia was stagnating and he was the only notable protoss slayers had before then.
Don't let those anti-cheese advocates tell you what to do. Rush to meet life head on!
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