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Watching the game 9 now, and again DRG keeps suicidng 20ish zerglings by standing still in tank fire, wtf Q_Q
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On May 20 2011 01:13 dormer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 00:59 gustavohmp wrote:On May 20 2011 00:46 Iron.Fist wrote:On May 20 2011 00:07 gustavohmp wrote:
lol, every season is MMA season.
Ill enjoy watching he failling again to get into Code A semi/finals or Code S.
Hes not bad by any means, but I would say he is not "mature" yet for the real deal.
Maybe if it was Proleague-like stuff, his efforts on GSTL would be worth something. I hope he FINALLY lives up to the hype he gets and become a top class player, but right now he is nowhere near "Top 3 terrans in the world". MVP had the same hype on the first seasons too. He is def a beast and amazing player (even being in code A last season he won the World tournament) but he wasn't nearly as good at the open seasons as he was at GSL January! MMA won't be the best Terran on the next GSL season (or the upcoming big Tournament imo) but I'm pretty sure he will perform better on decisive matches (aka Up/Down). Now as a fan (not being impartial as before) : MMA is gonna kick some CODE A ass and not even DRG (who is also doing the same) will stop this monster!! MMA FIGHTING!!!!! Well, I respect your opinion, however I disagree with it. A few months ago I would probably make a post just like yours. I was riding on the MMA hype back then. Everyone was. No one expected him to fail again. "MMA have Code A in the bag already", "MMA confirmed for getting Code S", "Cant wait for the up/down matches, its gonna be a cakewalk". And now look where he is. Code A, yet again. Didnt even managed to win it. Lost to MKP in the up/down matches. MKP overwhelmed him and Huk defeated him effortless. So yeah, Im not buying into the MMA hype again. Every season is the same thing: he gets hyped as hell, just to fail when it matters. He will never have a solid progamer career if hes only able to show results in team leagues. I think you're being too harsh on him. He lost in Ro16 in GSL March to Killer (who made it to Ro8 Code S this season), then in GSL May he lost in Ro8 to Bomber (Code A champion), then lost in the up and down matches to MKP (who is MKP) and Huk (who was really well-prepared and played well that day). He's clearly got a lot of potential. I agree that you shouldn't overhype someone just based on team league, but that doesn't mean he isn't a great player.
I guess.
It just makes me mad that people call him "easily top 3 terran", or "one of the best in the world".
Many props to him for winning the ace match, DRG was a great oponent, and both players played their best, I believe. But before being hyped like that, both players still has a LOT to prove.
As an example, you wouldnt say Much or Best are the best protoss in BW just because they have defeated Flash in ProLeague. You just wouldnt, no matter how big this accomplishment is.
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I think he's easily one of the best second tier Terrans(first tier being Mvp/MKP/Bomber) but for someone to say he's a top3 Terran and putting him up there over Terrans who have actually done something to prove themselves in bo3/5's(which are much more revealing of skill) just because he manages to perform well in bo1's is stupid
I'm a MMA fan but I'm not delusional
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On May 20 2011 01:26 gustavohmp wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 01:13 dormer wrote:On May 20 2011 00:59 gustavohmp wrote:On May 20 2011 00:46 Iron.Fist wrote:On May 20 2011 00:07 gustavohmp wrote:
lol, every season is MMA season.
Ill enjoy watching he failling again to get into Code A semi/finals or Code S.
Hes not bad by any means, but I would say he is not "mature" yet for the real deal.
Maybe if it was Proleague-like stuff, his efforts on GSTL would be worth something. I hope he FINALLY lives up to the hype he gets and become a top class player, but right now he is nowhere near "Top 3 terrans in the world". MVP had the same hype on the first seasons too. He is def a beast and amazing player (even being in code A last season he won the World tournament) but he wasn't nearly as good at the open seasons as he was at GSL January! MMA won't be the best Terran on the next GSL season (or the upcoming big Tournament imo) but I'm pretty sure he will perform better on decisive matches (aka Up/Down). Now as a fan (not being impartial as before) : MMA is gonna kick some CODE A ass and not even DRG (who is also doing the same) will stop this monster!! MMA FIGHTING!!!!! Well, I respect your opinion, however I disagree with it. A few months ago I would probably make a post just like yours. I was riding on the MMA hype back then. Everyone was. No one expected him to fail again. "MMA have Code A in the bag already", "MMA confirmed for getting Code S", "Cant wait for the up/down matches, its gonna be a cakewalk". And now look where he is. Code A, yet again. Didnt even managed to win it. Lost to MKP in the up/down matches. MKP overwhelmed him and Huk defeated him effortless. So yeah, Im not buying into the MMA hype again. Every season is the same thing: he gets hyped as hell, just to fail when it matters. He will never have a solid progamer career if hes only able to show results in team leagues. I think you're being too harsh on him. He lost in Ro16 in GSL March to Killer (who made it to Ro8 Code S this season), then in GSL May he lost in Ro8 to Bomber (Code A champion), then lost in the up and down matches to MKP (who is MKP) and Huk (who was really well-prepared and played well that day). He's clearly got a lot of potential. I agree that you shouldn't overhype someone just based on team league, but that doesn't mean he isn't a great player. I guess. It just makes me mad that people call him "easily top 3 terran", or "one of the best in the world". Many props to him for winning the ace match, DRG was a great oponent, and both players played their best, I believe. But before being hyped like that, both players still has a LOT to prove. As an example, you wouldnt say Much or Best are the best protoss in BW just because they have defeated Flash in ProLeague. You just wouldnt, no matter how big this accomplishment is.
I agree, but it's not only his wins that make the hype. It's the skill he displaying.
Best vs Flash didn't show that much "strength" from Best.
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On May 20 2011 01:49 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 01:26 gustavohmp wrote:On May 20 2011 01:13 dormer wrote:On May 20 2011 00:59 gustavohmp wrote:On May 20 2011 00:46 Iron.Fist wrote:On May 20 2011 00:07 gustavohmp wrote:
lol, every season is MMA season.
Ill enjoy watching he failling again to get into Code A semi/finals or Code S.
Hes not bad by any means, but I would say he is not "mature" yet for the real deal.
Maybe if it was Proleague-like stuff, his efforts on GSTL would be worth something. I hope he FINALLY lives up to the hype he gets and become a top class player, but right now he is nowhere near "Top 3 terrans in the world". MVP had the same hype on the first seasons too. He is def a beast and amazing player (even being in code A last season he won the World tournament) but he wasn't nearly as good at the open seasons as he was at GSL January! MMA won't be the best Terran on the next GSL season (or the upcoming big Tournament imo) but I'm pretty sure he will perform better on decisive matches (aka Up/Down). Now as a fan (not being impartial as before) : MMA is gonna kick some CODE A ass and not even DRG (who is also doing the same) will stop this monster!! MMA FIGHTING!!!!! Well, I respect your opinion, however I disagree with it. A few months ago I would probably make a post just like yours. I was riding on the MMA hype back then. Everyone was. No one expected him to fail again. "MMA have Code A in the bag already", "MMA confirmed for getting Code S", "Cant wait for the up/down matches, its gonna be a cakewalk". And now look where he is. Code A, yet again. Didnt even managed to win it. Lost to MKP in the up/down matches. MKP overwhelmed him and Huk defeated him effortless. So yeah, Im not buying into the MMA hype again. Every season is the same thing: he gets hyped as hell, just to fail when it matters. He will never have a solid progamer career if hes only able to show results in team leagues. I think you're being too harsh on him. He lost in Ro16 in GSL March to Killer (who made it to Ro8 Code S this season), then in GSL May he lost in Ro8 to Bomber (Code A champion), then lost in the up and down matches to MKP (who is MKP) and Huk (who was really well-prepared and played well that day). He's clearly got a lot of potential. I agree that you shouldn't overhype someone just based on team league, but that doesn't mean he isn't a great player. I guess. It just makes me mad that people call him "easily top 3 terran", or "one of the best in the world". Many props to him for winning the ace match, DRG was a great oponent, and both players played their best, I believe. But before being hyped like that, both players still has a LOT to prove. As an example, you wouldnt say Much or Best are the best protoss in BW just because they have defeated Flash in ProLeague. You just wouldnt, no matter how big this accomplishment is. I agree, but it's not only his wins that make the hype. It's the skill he displaying. Best vs Flash didn't show that much "strength" from Best.
Yeah, just his godly macro and decision making.
But this is not a BW thread.
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On May 20 2011 01:50 gustavohmp wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 01:49 MrCon wrote:On May 20 2011 01:26 gustavohmp wrote:On May 20 2011 01:13 dormer wrote:On May 20 2011 00:59 gustavohmp wrote:On May 20 2011 00:46 Iron.Fist wrote:On May 20 2011 00:07 gustavohmp wrote:
lol, every season is MMA season.
Ill enjoy watching he failling again to get into Code A semi/finals or Code S.
Hes not bad by any means, but I would say he is not "mature" yet for the real deal.
Maybe if it was Proleague-like stuff, his efforts on GSTL would be worth something. I hope he FINALLY lives up to the hype he gets and become a top class player, but right now he is nowhere near "Top 3 terrans in the world". MVP had the same hype on the first seasons too. He is def a beast and amazing player (even being in code A last season he won the World tournament) but he wasn't nearly as good at the open seasons as he was at GSL January! MMA won't be the best Terran on the next GSL season (or the upcoming big Tournament imo) but I'm pretty sure he will perform better on decisive matches (aka Up/Down). Now as a fan (not being impartial as before) : MMA is gonna kick some CODE A ass and not even DRG (who is also doing the same) will stop this monster!! MMA FIGHTING!!!!! Well, I respect your opinion, however I disagree with it. A few months ago I would probably make a post just like yours. I was riding on the MMA hype back then. Everyone was. No one expected him to fail again. "MMA have Code A in the bag already", "MMA confirmed for getting Code S", "Cant wait for the up/down matches, its gonna be a cakewalk". And now look where he is. Code A, yet again. Didnt even managed to win it. Lost to MKP in the up/down matches. MKP overwhelmed him and Huk defeated him effortless. So yeah, Im not buying into the MMA hype again. Every season is the same thing: he gets hyped as hell, just to fail when it matters. He will never have a solid progamer career if hes only able to show results in team leagues. I think you're being too harsh on him. He lost in Ro16 in GSL March to Killer (who made it to Ro8 Code S this season), then in GSL May he lost in Ro8 to Bomber (Code A champion), then lost in the up and down matches to MKP (who is MKP) and Huk (who was really well-prepared and played well that day). He's clearly got a lot of potential. I agree that you shouldn't overhype someone just based on team league, but that doesn't mean he isn't a great player. I guess. It just makes me mad that people call him "easily top 3 terran", or "one of the best in the world". Many props to him for winning the ace match, DRG was a great oponent, and both players played their best, I believe. But before being hyped like that, both players still has a LOT to prove. As an example, you wouldnt say Much or Best are the best protoss in BW just because they have defeated Flash in ProLeague. You just wouldnt, no matter how big this accomplishment is. I agree, but it's not only his wins that make the hype. It's the skill he displaying. Best vs Flash didn't show that much "strength" from Best. Yeah, just his godly macro and decision making. But this is not a BW thread.
Some people just suck at individual leagues but are beastly in team leagues. Like Sea, and skyhigh before he slumped. Could be the same thing for MMA here
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I can't stand these commentators. I'm sorry but they're really, really bad. When they're not screaming they're trying to come up with things to say which end up making no sense. Or which just, you know, state the obvious.
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mma the most solid finisher a team has ever had....
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wow that blink trick with the pylon on tal'Darim is so good so cool how slayers clan always comes up with these little map abuses :D
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The games made up for the terrible casting.
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GSTL finals are SOOOOO much better than GSL finals
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On May 20 2011 02:13 raf3776 wrote:
GSTL finals are SOOOOO much better than GSL finals
Only cuz inca cheese Nada out
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On May 20 2011 01:49 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 01:26 gustavohmp wrote:On May 20 2011 01:13 dormer wrote:On May 20 2011 00:59 gustavohmp wrote:On May 20 2011 00:46 Iron.Fist wrote:On May 20 2011 00:07 gustavohmp wrote:
lol, every season is MMA season.
Ill enjoy watching he failling again to get into Code A semi/finals or Code S.
Hes not bad by any means, but I would say he is not "mature" yet for the real deal.
Maybe if it was Proleague-like stuff, his efforts on GSTL would be worth something. I hope he FINALLY lives up to the hype he gets and become a top class player, but right now he is nowhere near "Top 3 terrans in the world". MVP had the same hype on the first seasons too. He is def a beast and amazing player (even being in code A last season he won the World tournament) but he wasn't nearly as good at the open seasons as he was at GSL January! MMA won't be the best Terran on the next GSL season (or the upcoming big Tournament imo) but I'm pretty sure he will perform better on decisive matches (aka Up/Down). Now as a fan (not being impartial as before) : MMA is gonna kick some CODE A ass and not even DRG (who is also doing the same) will stop this monster!! MMA FIGHTING!!!!! Well, I respect your opinion, however I disagree with it. A few months ago I would probably make a post just like yours. I was riding on the MMA hype back then. Everyone was. No one expected him to fail again. "MMA have Code A in the bag already", "MMA confirmed for getting Code S", "Cant wait for the up/down matches, its gonna be a cakewalk". And now look where he is. Code A, yet again. Didnt even managed to win it. Lost to MKP in the up/down matches. MKP overwhelmed him and Huk defeated him effortless. So yeah, Im not buying into the MMA hype again. Every season is the same thing: he gets hyped as hell, just to fail when it matters. He will never have a solid progamer career if hes only able to show results in team leagues. I think you're being too harsh on him. He lost in Ro16 in GSL March to Killer (who made it to Ro8 Code S this season), then in GSL May he lost in Ro8 to Bomber (Code A champion), then lost in the up and down matches to MKP (who is MKP) and Huk (who was really well-prepared and played well that day). He's clearly got a lot of potential. I agree that you shouldn't overhype someone just based on team league, but that doesn't mean he isn't a great player. I guess. It just makes me mad that people call him "easily top 3 terran", or "one of the best in the world". Many props to him for winning the ace match, DRG was a great oponent, and both players played their best, I believe. But before being hyped like that, both players still has a LOT to prove. As an example, you wouldnt say Much or Best are the best protoss in BW just because they have defeated Flash in ProLeague. You just wouldnt, no matter how big this accomplishment is. I agree, but it's not only his wins that make the hype. It's the skill he displaying. Best vs Flash didn't show that much "strength" from Best.
You didn't like his ceremony?
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On May 19 2011 22:21 andaylin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 22:21 RPR_Tempest wrote:On May 19 2011 22:19 TheKefka wrote:On May 19 2011 22:11 andaylin wrote:On May 19 2011 22:10 TheKefka wrote:On May 19 2011 22:07 RPR_Tempest wrote:On May 19 2011 22:06 TheKefka wrote:On May 19 2011 22:05 andaylin wrote:On May 19 2011 22:04 iuvenalis wrote:
TSL_Rain is fucking horrible, cheese, lame player. please, educate yourself and go watch some of his games. And he will find that Rain is actually not a top player.Whats your point? Rain isn't a top player, but he is FAR, FAAAAAAR from "fucking horrible, cheese, lame player". Maybe,but people like Rain will disappear from the scene in the next 6 months. that's what people said 6 months ago. hm And the landscape of players has totally changed since than,Rain has gone from being 2nd in the GSL finals to loosing in 1st round every GSL since and bearly holding on to code S and soon to fall out of it completely when the next influx of Sc 1 pros comes in. Keep telling yourself that. Haters gonna hate. ^
Rain is good, just because he isn't another MVP/Bomber/MKP doesn't mean he isn't a top player.
Also, SLAYERS FTMFW!~!~!!~
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On May 20 2011 02:15 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 02:13 raf3776 wrote:
GSTL finals are SOOOOO much better than GSL finals Only cuz inca cheese Nada out
QFT.
and OH MY GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD GAME 9 WAS AMAZING HOLY ****!
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game 9, it was the maximum of excitement!
it was like: birthday, christmas and lotto jackpot together
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GSTL: not disappointing since Feb 2011
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Cella almost had a heart attack
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GSTL is soooooooooooooooooo good!
SlayerS FIGHTING!
MMA why so good?
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