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Slayth
Profile Joined November 2010
United States325 Posts
May 12 2011 01:23 GMT
#281
On May 12 2011 10:22 haffy wrote:
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On May 12 2011 10:21 Slayth wrote:
Just more reasons for me to hate the NASL. Makes me more thankful for IPL and GSL


lol wow. Get something for free and hate on it. Your not forced to watch you know.


Welcome to the internet, where everyone hates everything.

No, but seriously, I'm hoping the games do get better, there has been a few good games, but most of them I'm just like :| the whole time
Fanclubs I'm in: Destiny, EGHuK, EGIdrA, IMNestea, LiquidTLO, LiquidJinro, IMLosira, TypePhoeNix, MvPDongRaeGu, STJuly, WhiteRa. "this is more fucked up than lord of the flies" - Tasteless , "WHEN THERE'S NO INTERNET, LAN ROCKS" - Lim Yo-Hwan
RJau
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia141 Posts
May 12 2011 01:23 GMT
#282
Idra is commentating. LOVE IT! Keep this NASL.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
May 12 2011 01:24 GMT
#283
Did it crash again? <.<
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
May 12 2011 01:24 GMT
#284
Crashed again?
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-12 01:25:16
May 12 2011 01:24 GMT
#285
On May 12 2011 10:21 Geniuszerg wrote:
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On May 12 2011 10:19 dunc wrote:
On May 12 2011 10:13 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 12 2011 10:11 dunc wrote:
On May 12 2011 10:09 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 12 2011 10:08 dunc wrote:
On May 12 2011 10:06 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 12 2011 10:05 dunc wrote:
18 Nexus.. very abusive.

Jesus, can we at least keep idiotic balance stuff out of casting please. Kiwikaki is a very good player, he's not "abusive".



.....Are you serious?


Yes, I'm serious.



Abusive doesn't equal imbalance, christ. It means you do something designed to do tons of damage if your oppenent doesn't react correctly.


I know what abusive is, christ. How does 18 nexus fall under that category? It doesn't. Idra just loves calling every single Protoss in the world abusive.

He's good at casting but it would be better if they wouldn't let him cast Protoss.



Because it gives you a huge early economy and quick tech? Were you not listening at all?


I have no idea why I bother arguing with one of the biggest Idra fanboys but no. That's not the case.

Honestly if you want to put stuff in perspective like that every single build in Starcraft 2 is abusive. It's such a fucking retarded way to describe things. I guess he should have 4gated but that would have been abusive too. 3gate sentry expand is abusive too.

abusive in this situation is referring to the fact that you're abusing the general knowledge that most zergs wont build a lot of early lings, and because of that you can get a more econ nexus first build, its not abusing the race being played, its abusing the race played against


It's using the map to your advantage. Unlike what certain people think, 15 hatching every single game isn't how Starcraft 2 is meant to be played. It's a Real Time Strategy game, you use the map to your advantage. You use your opponent's build to your advantage.

There is nothing abusive about it. Abusive is a word thrown around by idiots love whining about the most ridiculousn stuff.

On May 12 2011 10:23 Xivsa wrote:
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On May 12 2011 10:19 dunc wrote:


I have no idea why I bother arguing with one of the biggest Idra fanboys but no. That's not the case.

Honestly if you want to put stuff in perspective like that every single build in Starcraft 2 is abusive. It's such a fucking retarded way to describe things. I guess he should have 4gated but that would have been abusive too. 3gate sentry expand is abusive too.


It's not a retarded way to describe the situation at all. Abusive doesn't necessarily mean taking advantage of an imbalance or being overpowered. Idra used abusive to describe Kiwi's ability to get ahead in economy quickly. The fact that he waited for 2 more probes before fast expanding simply means that he can abuse Sheth's more standard build order by having a larger army more quickly than Sheth would have anticipated. Look up the word abuse or abusive in the dictionary if this nuance still escapes you.


Not even going to bother, holy shit.
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
May 12 2011 01:24 GMT
#286
and another fail....
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
zylog
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada943 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-12 01:24:47
May 12 2011 01:24 GMT
#287
I hate how when I refresh, I have to sit through a 30 sec commercial while missing the action

edut: then it freezes right after the commercial
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45017 Posts
May 12 2011 01:24 GMT
#288
Stream crashed again x.x

Sheth vs. Kiwi was the match I was looking forward to the most
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
May 12 2011 01:24 GMT
#289
And again...
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-12 01:25:34
May 12 2011 01:24 GMT
#290
delete
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
May 12 2011 01:24 GMT
#291
freeze
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
May 12 2011 01:24 GMT
#292
Well this is awesome -_-
Zannadar
Profile Joined March 2011
Turkey294 Posts
May 12 2011 01:24 GMT
#293
Dead again?
FLuE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1012 Posts
May 12 2011 01:24 GMT
#294
Do we really need 5 pages on the word abusive?

Jesus, people on this forum need to grow up a bit and quit hanging on every single word that might be just a bit out of place in your opinion.

Anyone with common sense knows what he means when he says it is abusive. In the SC2 world it simply means just taking extreme advantage of a given situation or timing window. It doesn't mean imbalanced or overpowered because things become abusive given certain strategies.

If a zerg player over drones and is greedy, 4 gating is an abusive build for that. If a terran player has poor defense, a baneling bust might be an abusive build. It is just situational.

Everyone needs to grow up a bit. Also Idra is always been someone who is sarcastic and exaggerates greatly, understanding that helps to not freak out every time he says a sentence.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 12 2011 01:24 GMT
#295
I think Justin.tv is taking a shit.
Bro_Stone
Profile Joined April 2011
United States510 Posts
May 12 2011 01:24 GMT
#296
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Stim Go Go GO!
MajorityofOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2506 Posts
May 12 2011 01:24 GMT
#297
Crashed again. Ruins a nice, even midgame too.
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
May 12 2011 01:24 GMT
#298
*sigh*
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
May 12 2011 01:24 GMT
#299
Jesus christ. Cant there just be one friggin night without lagg or dead streams
duk3
Profile Joined September 2010
United States807 Posts
May 12 2011 01:24 GMT
#300
The stream started and then crashed again
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