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ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
April 15 2011 03:26 GMT
#2241
fuck fuck the the what what is squirtle doing, this build is really interesting.
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
April 15 2011 03:26 GMT
#2242
On April 15 2011 12:23 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 12:22 ShadezOwnage wrote:
I dont like Incontrol. gimme chill and day9

hell, even husky.


I like you.

i love you incontrol
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21552 Posts
April 15 2011 03:27 GMT
#2243
On April 15 2011 12:23 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 12:22 ShadezOwnage wrote:
I dont like Incontrol. gimme chill and day9

hell, even husky.


I like you.

I have no strong feelings one way or the other.
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Aquafresh
Profile Joined May 2007
United States824 Posts
April 15 2011 03:27 GMT
#2244
First amazing match of the NASL right here, great game backed by great casting.

Nada's mechanics seem to be out of wack (by his standards at least) but I think he just demonstrated why there is more to good macro than having the mechanics to time all your production buildings like clockwork. You need to know how to manage resources in order to maximize the gain from adding production and expansions. With the easier game mechanics in SC2 many players have the potential to macro perfectly, but the guys like Nada, MVP, MC and other BW pros still have more units than everyone else.
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
April 15 2011 03:27 GMT
#2245
On April 15 2011 12:23 starcraft911 wrote:
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On April 15 2011 12:21 cheesemaster wrote:
THAT WAS FUCKING AMAZING NADA SHOWING WHY HE IS THE GENIUS TERRAN OMG , after his dissapointing displays recently its niice to see him have a come back like this. I think TVT is best suited for koreans in terms of lag its more positional and strategy oriented rather than really micro heavy.

By far the best series of the tournament. DDE is actually really good though i underestimated him.


TvT takes the highest apm of any MU so I'd say that lag would hurt it the worst. Need to be quick on siege movement and in all 3 games nada was very stationary with his sieges.

DDE just forgot the two golden rules of TvT and those are:
-Don't lose your production
-If you have more tanks don't let them push you back

I guess , honestly i think that its alot more of a positional based game, i agree that sieging tanks is very twitch based but in almost all of those situations we saw DDE siege first, nada just had better positioning in alot of the situations. Nada won based off of his macro management and positioning less so on his micro even those his apm is off the charts i still think hes gotta be at a disadvantage sitting at 300+ms vs 80 or so fromm DDE in the us.
Slayers_MMA The terran who beats terrans
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
April 15 2011 03:27 GMT
#2246
I'm predicting squirtle to win this, foreigner protoss are way too passive
SooYoung-Noona!
Calyeah
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom32 Posts
April 15 2011 03:27 GMT
#2247
Man that game was just so amazing to watch, Nada's macro just leaves my mind boggled.
hitman133
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1425 Posts
April 15 2011 03:27 GMT
#2248
I hate mirror MU
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
April 15 2011 03:27 GMT
#2249
Squirtle going with a fast 2nd gas and 2nd gateway.

Axslav going robotics off 1 gateway.

What an odd opening for both, definitely not typical pvp right now =p
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
April 15 2011 03:27 GMT
#2250
he has 2 gates and a robo up already
Year 2500 Greater Israel ( Bahrain, Cyprus, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Gaza Strip, West Bank, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Yemen )
Irrelevant
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2364 Posts
April 15 2011 03:27 GMT
#2251
On April 15 2011 12:27 ffadicted wrote:
I'm predicting squirtle to win this, foreigner protoss are way too passive

lag effects micro so 4gating will be harder
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
April 15 2011 03:27 GMT
#2252
gdi squirtle showed everyone what i've been doing D:

basically you get your first gas late and your second gas early and you end up with more minerals but same gas income at ~24. its a MUCH better opening than 14 gas since it confuses the fuck out of the metagame
hihihi
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46478 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-15 03:30:12
April 15 2011 03:28 GMT
#2253
On April 15 2011 12:27 ffadicted wrote:
I'm predicting squirtle to win this, foreigner protoss are way too passive


I am too >.>
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
April 15 2011 03:28 GMT
#2254
Also if when inc and Gretorp go through this thread thanks for listening to feedback. I can tell you guys are doing your best not to yell and my ears are thanking you. I know incontrol knew about that complaint, he mentioned his yell as the banshee went down.

Also idk if its just me but as NASL is edited and not live would anyone else be interested if they went back through and analyze decisions when there is that critical move like Nada being behind by 40 supply and going for the drop. I would like to see unit count and income and stuff like that. Not saying do this every game, but when a game comes down to one decision like that I would like to be able to see it and the whole situation.
desderak
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom206 Posts
April 15 2011 03:28 GMT
#2255
that game from NaDa showed that he's still got the brilliance with which clearly he was renowned for in brood war! so exciting! His mechanics definitely seem rusty though.
arrrk
Profile Joined May 2010
63 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-15 03:30:00
April 15 2011 03:28 GMT
#2256
mod edit: sigh

User was temp banned for this post.
Gudeldar
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1200 Posts
April 15 2011 03:28 GMT
#2257
Stream is lagging like crazy for me right now.
ihavetofartosis
Profile Joined January 2011
1277 Posts
April 15 2011 03:28 GMT
#2258
On April 15 2011 12:25 zyzq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 12:23 ffadicted wrote:
On April 15 2011 12:20 Kazzabiss wrote:
That, hands down, was the greatest comeback I've ever, ever seen.


It was good, but it was all in that one drop. MVP vs. Bomber was the most amazing comeback ever.
Anyone have the video of artosis freaking out over that? :D

I wanna rewatch that haha


Great post hahahaha, nice to re-live that moment again.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
April 15 2011 03:28 GMT
#2259
On April 15 2011 12:22 MechKing wrote:
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On April 15 2011 12:21 doffe wrote:
On April 15 2011 12:19 MechKing wrote:
Lol here comes the BW fanboys, although DDE outplayed him the entire game until he made the mistake of letting nada get the gold.


What game where you watching? Nada failed with his army once, he was certinly not ouplayed and as someone stated before me, Nadas multitasking was extremly good when he turned the game around.

Lol Dde's macro was so far ahead the whole game. The only mistake dde made was letting nada take the middle of the map.


I think... DDE was more stable throughout the game. But NaDa played a smarter game, showing intelligence in his decisions, this made a HUGE difference. What the hell, there's like no player who'll make that crazy doom drop while in such a disadvantage. It was so so good.

Also, while DDE had more supply, it doesn't mean he had the better macro mechanics. He won a few sieges, but in general, NaDa had a positional advantage most of the game. Plus he took a successful risk by taking the gold to help his comeback. Great stuff.

Also, even when mining gold with tons of mules, NaDa was able to keep his minerals low, really low, and resupply really fast when losing units. His macro mechanics were top class on game 3.

He didn't even seem to be playing at half his potential though, he'd be damn scary if he played SC2 full time.
spybreak
Profile Joined October 2010
United States684 Posts
April 15 2011 03:28 GMT
#2260
On April 15 2011 12:25 zyzq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 12:23 ffadicted wrote:
On April 15 2011 12:20 Kazzabiss wrote:
That, hands down, was the greatest comeback I've ever, ever seen.


It was good, but it was all in that one drop. MVP vs. Bomber was the most amazing comeback ever.
Anyone have the video of artosis freaking out over that? :D

I wanna rewatch that haha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLk7ezr9ojw


Thanks for the link!
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