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It's WCG time again folks! last year
I'll be keeping this thread updated during qualifiers who's qualified and anything else WCG USA related as we move through 2011 on the way to the first ever sc2 WCG USA FINALS!
If you have any questions regarding rulings or need assistance with reporting or correcting results or have any issues with the WCG website or registration please contact Laurent here on TL.
Sign up now spots are going quick it would seem. You can register for every qualifier except the last two at the moment. The last two qualifiers will be 32 man "Last Chance" qualifiers with the top finishing players in the first qualifiers getting a last chance at qualifying for the finals.
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WCG Site: http://us.wcg.com/
Rules: here
Information: here
You can qualify for the WCG 2011 US National Finals by winning any of the 8 online qualifiers. Note that the Last Chance #1 & 2 qualifier will be a 32-player qualifying round, with the top 4 players from each of the previous online qualifiers being added to the competition pool with 4 wild card random spots.
Map Pool:
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Shattered Temple
Metalopolis
Xel'Naga Caverns
Tal'darim Altar LE
Crevasse
Crossfire SE
Terminus RE
Shakuras Plateau
Where to meet on bnet:
channel: "WCGUSA"
Qualifiers
Finals Qualified Players:
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IdrA
Gatored
KawaiiRice
Vibe
gix
qxc
Strifecro
HuK
Finals Location: NO USA FINALS THIS YEAR wtf!
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Luckyfool is da man. Good luck, participants!
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it seems like only yesturday wcg was bw =/
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^ so many memories...Can't wait to make new ones with sc2. 
Wonder where the USA finals will be this year... They were in LA last year...
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Really excited for this. I didn't follow BW, but heard so much about it with all the stories from Day9/Tyler/Incontrol on SotG and whatnot. Hope it lives up to the hype 
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It's worth mentioning that WCG USA is actually being done by a different organization this year called E-Sports Services but I'm unsure how that will change things if at all.
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ugh, enough with scrap station in the pro map pool...
Anyways this seems pretty cool. I probably won't make it but I pretty much almost forgot about the WCG due to MLG! GL everyone
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this brings back the memory's!!
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On April 14 2011 12:44 LuckyFool wrote:^ so many memories...Can't wait to make new ones with sc2. Wonder where the USA finals will be this year... They were in LA last year...
sigh... i hope they have WCG for canada this year.. there shud be some sponsors for sc2 in canada right..? ^_^
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It would be realllly tragic if Canada had no WCG this year... Should be really easy filling up qualifiers and getting interest, just a matter of if they have people in place who will manage things.
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let's do this!! pretty stoked about this tourney!
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ps it says that the finals will be in South Korea, they're just not 100% sure where yet in SK.
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On April 14 2011 15:08 Geniuszerg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 12:44 LuckyFool wrote:^ so many memories...Can't wait to make new ones with sc2. Wonder where the USA finals will be this year... They were in LA last year... sigh... i hope they have WCG for canada this year.. there shud be some sponsors for sc2 in canada right..? ^_^
Canada doesn't get WCG? What, why?
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Dominican Republic54 Posts
Ihope the latin american countries such as peru and so more have WCG
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Rules have been changed to reflect a change in the way maps are selected.
The map on the bracket is now the first map and the loser of each map will pick the next map.
Another revision to the map list has been made
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On April 14 2011 14:45 Beside_kr wrote:
It's worth mentioning that WCG USA is actually being done by a different organization this year called E-Sports Services but I'm unsure how that will change things if at all.
Pretty sure that's a company started by Craig Levine who was the founder of team 3D and ESEA which is still going on. WCG should be perfectly fine if that's the case.
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United States2095 Posts
This should be interesting.... Hopefully new game new WCG... Looking forward to it either way! :D
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On April 14 2011 23:07 blizzind wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 14:45 Beside_kr wrote:
It's worth mentioning that WCG USA is actually being done by a different organization this year called E-Sports Services but I'm unsure how that will change things if at all. Pretty sure that's a company started by Craig Levine who was the founder of team 3D and ESEA which is still going on. WCG should be perfectly fine if that's the case.
yep, Torbull is hands-on in the forums on the USA site and I agree with you, hoping for an awesome event.
I can't imagine Canada not holding an sc2 event but WCG Canada's budget has been cut repeatedly since 2007 so we'll have to wait and see.
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I was at the WCG finals last year in canada, in which SC2 was not an official game. We did, however, hold an SC2 tournament in the same venue at the same time kind of alongside WCG, which was LAN ETS in montreal. They seemed to show at least SOME interest in the game, and we had a lot of people turn up for the event.
I think canada could have one of the most competitive wcg qualifiers in the world, as our talent pool is quite vast.
EDIT: LuckyFool so awesome for doing this thread~
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On April 14 2011 22:38 DreamScaR wrote:
ps it says that the finals will be in South Korea, they're just not 100% sure where yet in SK. Grand finals will be in SK this year. USA finals hasn't been announced yet. And usually isn't announced till pretty late... 
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i'll try to qualify and then pull some upsets like last year :}
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We are still working on a location for the US Finals and as soon as we have it, we will let you all know
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Korea (South)11579 Posts
I'll try to get a Zlasher Bracket and win a qualifier.
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Australia8532 Posts
Thanks LuckyFool for chucking this together! Should be very damn interesting
Grand finals in SK is interesting as well - can't decide if i am excited haha
Lol i just read that i found it hilarious haha!
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"and took another walkover in the ro8 over an abruptly retiring Ranged."
LOL
I remember that vividly.
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And then you unretire and won the next week. ^__________^
broodwar was so fun.
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On April 15 2011 22:27 LuckyFool wrote:
And then you unretire and won the next week. ^__________^
broodwar was so fun.
Yes, it was impossible to quit BW, haha.
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Surprisingly good map pool for a WCG lol
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You guys best bring your A game...cause imma beast this tourney.
Hopefully.
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Saw this topic and I was like "LuckyFool must of made this"
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of course, now all we need are the token hackers/abusers/map riggers/drama queens, you know the type... the lastshadow's, dino's and joekim's of sc2 and we'll be set for 2011 wcg usa. ^_^
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speaking of lastshadow and dino. Where the heck are those guys?
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On April 16 2011 09:47 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
speaking of lastshadow and dino. Where the heck are those guys?
lastshadow is playing SC2 again under the wing of GosuGamers; or so he says.
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On April 16 2011 09:47 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
speaking of lastshadow and dino. Where the heck are those guys?
dino doesn't play (although he might change his mind, never know)
lastshadow is still around he might try to go for this idk.
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Will be interesting
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United Kingdom2950 Posts
Wowow, WCG starting up again? Get hype~
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lastshadow is on the GGNET team, so yes he does play SC2
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WCG used to be the highlight of the year... it was something that i looked forward to every year despite all the issues it had with map selection and the amount of abuse in their ladder stage, however, this year with the TSL and NASL in full swing and GSL and more MLG nearing I can honestly say that WCG is at the bottom of the list which is a first for me.
WCG has done a lot of great things for e-sports (and a lot of not so great), but I'm hoping they have been seeing what's going on with other organizations and really try to step the bar up because I think they need to come a long way to match what we've already seen this year.
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On April 16 2011 08:56 LuckyFool wrote:
of course, now all we need are the token hackers/abusers/map riggers/drama queens, you know the type... the lastshadow's, dino's and joekim's of sc2 and we'll be set for 2011 wcg usa. ^_^
ROFL, someone needs to do a thread summarizing all the shenanagains that have happened throughout various WCG's over the years... I know there's been some really great ones and with all the new SC2 transplants that never played BW i think they could use a good thorough history lesson
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Can't wait to see Starcraft2 on WCG!!
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Laurent, do only 8 players or 10 players qualify for the finals?
I remember last year some extra qualifiers were added pretty late.
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im debating whether or not i should attempt to qualify
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On April 14 2011 14:45 Beside_kr wrote:
It's worth mentioning that WCG USA is actually being done by a different organization this year called E-Sports Services but I'm unsure how that will change things if at all.
ESS has been doing WCG for YEARS..no real difference in how it's being put on at all.
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Only going to be 8 this time LF
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1 day away!
hype!! lots of waiting list players, wonder how that's gonna work.
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On April 22 2011 09:13 Laurent wrote:
Only going to be 8 this time LF
8 people going to WCG USA finals?
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Where does it say our opponents contact information?
In the email it says it should be in the My Registration portion, but it's not displaying there as far as I can tell.
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
nm I msg'd em
So 4 "stages"
winner of each stage go to a round robin final 4 thingy? Winner goes to USA finals?
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Wow ro16 starts with bo5's ? This is intense. :D
it looks like 4 guys come out of each stage and then play from a ro16 bracket. At least thats how I'm understanding the email.
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gl hf everyone
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Interesting how I registered on day one for all six qualifiers, and didn't even make it in the brackets for this one. I call prejucide!
Gl all.
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On April 25 2011 10:41 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:
Interesting how I registered on day one for all six qualifiers, and didn't even make it in the brackets for this one. I call prejucide!
Gl all.
Did you check all the brackets? I did the same and I'm in.
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On April 25 2011 10:50 iCCup.Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2011 10:41 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:
Interesting how I registered on day one for all six qualifiers, and didn't even make it in the brackets for this one. I call prejucide!
Gl all. Did you check all the brackets? I did the same and I'm in.
i did check all four. Unless I'm overlooking my name/Id which I could be doing on my iPhone but I checked twice so I don't know.
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On April 25 2011 10:41 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:
Interesting how I registered on day one for all six qualifiers, and didn't even make it in the brackets for this one. I call prejucide!
Gl all.
Exact same issue for me.
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Ugh, Scrap Station in the map pool? Too bad I'll have to see 4-gate v 4-gate in every PvP. Oh well, here's hoping players have map vetoes.
Other than that, super excited for my first WCG!!!
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On April 25 2011 11:10 Pokebunny wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2011 10:41 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:
Interesting how I registered on day one for all six qualifiers, and didn't even make it in the brackets for this one. I call prejucide!
Gl all. Exact same issue for me.
Hm that would suck. I know there were lists of "replacement players" or players on waiting list, I wonder what happened to all of them or if they can sub in for no shows...
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Won't have a no show because you're given until 11:59pm to play.
If you don't show it's a w.o hands down or at least that's how it was when inwas
doing wcg from 2004-2008. Alot of changes throughout it all.
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I dont see how I can get in contact with my opponent
I can't find his character code anywhere on the site? how do I navigate to get my opponent's character code?
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if you find yourself on the bracket and click it will bring you to your matches page which should have the realid info/email of your opponent. you can also go to wcg site and click on "my matches"
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
what is w/o policy? I added my dude but no response. Obviously I have all day today as well.. but I don't want him to log in 30 minutes before midnight and go "where is incontrol?" then take the w/o after I've been trying to get a hold of him for 2 days.
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U just don't know Geoff... U GOIN DOWN!
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Forfeits, Disputes, and Support:
If your opponent does not show up within a 15 minute grace period after the original scheduled match time, you may report a forfeit win
If you have wrongly been awarded a forfeit loss, you may challenge it within 2 hours of the originally scheduled match time, after which time your dispute will be discarded
If both players agree to reschedule the match within 22 hours of the original match time, both teams must alert an administrator and have the reschedule approved
If no match has been reported within 2 hours of the scheduled match time and no support tickets have been opened, the higher seeded player as listed on the tournament bracket will be advanced by default
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If you and your opponent don't agree to a match time then its default - 8PM CST - if he doesnt show by 8:15 PM CST - then report a FF win for yourself - make sure to have a SS that you were on at that time.
The SC2 channel on Bnet will be "WCGUSA"
I will try to be in there during default match times in case there are questions.
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I signed up for the second qualifier.
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luckyfool what's your char code?
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On April 26 2011 04:40 iNcontroL wrote:
what is w/o policy? I added my dude but no response. Obviously I have all day today as well.. but I don't want him to log in 30 minutes before midnight and go "where is incontrol?" then take the w/o after I've been trying to get a hold of him for 2 days.
well it says has to be played by 8 CEST or something. I imagine if you guys both don't schedule a round by that time you get the win.
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uhh...looks like i hit EGMachine first round and then if i pull a miracle win i hit strifecro second.
:<
:< :< :<
always next time i guess.
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On April 26 2011 10:11 Rasky wrote:
No Canada at WCG?
Was wondering the same thing, whats going on here?
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On April 26 2011 10:24 Torte de Lini wrote:Was wondering the same thing, whats going on here?
Ask WCG. These are the USA WCG Qualifiers. As in United States of America. Not saying Canada is any worse or anything but if you want a qualifier too your problems are with WCG and you should contact them about it.
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<_< MLG does not host WCG USA or do qualifiers for them.
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On April 26 2011 10:30 GenoZStriker wrote:
<_< MLG does not host WCG USA or do qualifiers for them.
Why did I say MLG... disregard that lol. Talk to WCG.
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On April 26 2011 10:35 Torte de Lini wrote:
edit: i see.
Called a brain fart but I fixed it.
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The site is sooo bad for sc2
Can't find any info on opponents ID or anything, i bet theres gonna be like half no shows because of it
On that note, apparently my email came up via google ;;
glgl everyone
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On April 26 2011 10:41 sAfuRos wrote:
The site is sooo bad for sc2
Can't find any info on opponents ID or anything, i bet theres gonna be like half no shows because of it
On that note, apparently my email came up via google ;;
glgl everyone
yea the site is really confusing. T_T
this thread helps though, I bet more people will end up coming here than the actual wcg site... thats what seemed to happen back in bw days :D
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Is the WCG prize pool big enough to attract a lot of progamer attention? I've seen some known names in the brackets so far.
I know it's been THE event for BW for the longest time, so I understand that it's a prestigious tournament - is the prize money good as well? Can't find anything on the site talking about the pool for SC2.
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WCG is one of THE tournaments to win for any pro gamers career. It might not have the biggest prize pool and you might see some tournaments with higher prize money but the prestige is what counts.
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On April 26 2011 10:41 sAfuRos wrote:
The site is sooo bad for sc2
Can't find any info on opponents ID or anything, i bet theres gonna be like half no shows because of it
On that note, apparently my email came up via google ;;
glgl everyone
....thats why they have you enter your real ID, which is on your match page....>< people dont look or something.
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many great players, starcraft ii at wcg grand final would be awesome!
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Good thing I'm an American and Canadian Citizen and resident ;D
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Australia8532 Posts
+ Show Spoiler +Vibe getting taken out and coLRyan being done by a guy that 1 base banshee rushed IdrA a couple times on stream i think :p
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Guys,
Please make sure you are looking at the date of your matches, we had alot of false FFW wins because the date of the match was for a different day.
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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I know i'm supposed to play my round today, added him on real ID yesterday, Has not accepted T_T.
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gix then cruncher then gretorp. np
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I hope to see IdrA going far!!
Excited :D
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iNcontroL
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On April 27 2011 04:06 Alejandrisha wrote:
gix then cruncher then gretorp. np
some people get all the easy brackets lol
^_^
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are there wcg qualifiers in korea and europa too?
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On April 27 2011 04:19 kratos-23 wrote:
are there wcg qualifiers in korea and europa too?
yes
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So I'm from Canada here..... we just have to sit here and wait I take it?
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
I wouldn't recommend waiting in the WCG USA thread for anything Canada related O_O
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On April 27 2011 04:23 Slardar wrote:
So I'm from Canada here..... we just have to sit here and wait I take it?
Canada has the worst WCG's.... they brought me to organize the last WCG Canada BW event in 2007 and its sucked since then !
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Yeah...... I figured as much when I used to try to sign up for War3 nationals, those were reasonably smooth events from what I recall, but that was long ago.
So... Xeris... you got my back right? 
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So did WCG just not send out any sort of email notifiers/reminders about this tourney for those who signed up?
I'm pretty out of practice anyway, but in the past they sent something a few days or so before hand with the tournament information for those who signed up. Guess I actually gotta be on top of things for this.
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2 different emails were sent out to all participants
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this is supposed to start now right?
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matches are at 9pm east check your bracket for match times.
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I can't wait for the drama.
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wow my opponent was nice, he just forfeited and gave me the win 2-0. Sweet :p
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On April 27 2011 04:33 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2011 04:23 Slardar wrote:
So I'm from Canada here..... we just have to sit here and wait I take it? Canada has the worst WCG's.... they brought me to organize the last WCG Canada BW event in 2007 and its sucked since then !
Not to stroke you questionables, but this is sadly true T_T On the bright side, it should be getting better now that we've got SC2, with a lot more money and interest backing it.
I hope. Please, god I hope. Something West Coast, plz? Pl0x?
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I dropped almost 100 pts in the ladder today, shook it off, took an hour break, and won my matches 2-0! OH YEAH! Minnesota fighting!!
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Well I think hell has frozen over, I won my Round 1 match 0_o
I need to get used to these big important matches thing, I was freaking out mid match so bad it took me 5 minutes to stop shaking lol.
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diamond so pro yo. better than me ^^
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On April 27 2011 10:42 LuckyFool wrote:
diamond so pro yo. better than me ^^
lol <3. iCCup.Diamond for Bonjwa, you heard it here first! lolololol
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Just signed up for 4 qualifiers. Looking forward to competing this summer ^^
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On April 27 2011 06:03 Laurent wrote:
2 different emails were sent out to all participants
Weird, I was signed up for this first qualifier but the only email I got was the initial one after I initially signed up.
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On April 25 2011 17:51 Zlasher wrote:I wonder if anyone will get the infamous Zlasher bracket this year :O http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Zlasher_BracketI don't think I'll waste anyones time this year by signing up, or curse them to getting the urge to retire or get struck by lightning.
lol, that's epic
another WCG USA, another drama fest? 
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btw -- whats with the different stages? do the top 4 from each play in a 16 man bracket? what's the actual format?
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The 16 players play BO5 the following week, from what I gather on their little rule section
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gahh up against strifecro in a zvz in a few hours >< why couldnt i get an easy bracket?
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zlasher brackets are so 2010.
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anyone name DirtRid3r reading this thread? what's your bnet id and number? i added you to real ID but can't find you.
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Is there any WCG Admin in the channel WCGUSA?
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some of the stages are FAR easier than others imo they need to do a better job of seeding and splitting these up.
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On April 28 2011 06:55 LightWireEX wrote:
gahh up against strifecro in a zvz in a few hours >< why couldnt i get an easy bracket?
Who's strifecro? anyways good luck :D
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updated OP with correct map pool.
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o shiii---
Bracket B
TriMaster vs Cruncher
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You the man, LuckyFool!
I don't suppose there will be any way of getting ahold of replays from the qualis?
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Not unless players release them probably.
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whoa everize is american? I thought he was like south american...and his tlpd is a polish flag wtfz !!
drama time ?
or maybe I'm just misinformed. Too many players to keep track of now fml.
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yo Rob, why are the "last chance qualis" closed?
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On April 30 2011 10:58 LuckyFool wrote:
whoa everize is american? I thought he was like south american...and his tlpd is a polish flag wtfz !!
drama time ?
or maybe I'm just misinformed. Too many players to keep track of now fml.
Pretty sure he's a Pole who moved to the US. He currently resides in Chicago in case you're wondering.
And wow, I did not expect TriMaster to win over CrunCher!
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Last Chance Qualifiers are only for those who played in the other qualifiers and didnt make it
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On April 30 2011 12:13 Xeris wrote:
yo Rob, why are the "last chance qualis" closed?
you gotta qualify for those qualifiers yo.
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playing friends sucks
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MUTE will be the champion. I believe.
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The top 16 for the first qualifier are:
Philibird
Kawaiirice
Thirdeye
scdpride
Everize
Nadagast
IdrA
Trimaster
flashback
painuser
axslav
lizzuma
tqstate
strifecro
newsh
Mute
when the bracket is posted I'll be linking it in the OP. glhfgg.
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I won vs amalaxi, results haven't been updated yet for some reason.
Gl hf to final 16 ;D
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So I'm assuming that that 'dice' was the actual person to 2-1 Artosis? The brackets are kind of messy
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So...when is the top16 being played?
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On May 02 2011 12:32 Xeris wrote:
So...when is the top16 being played?
No clue. We need a bracket still too... Typically it'd have happened today...
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So who zlashered it up today?
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argh no WCG qualifier in my country this year =/
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cool !! hope nobody walks over to the final :p1
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where is the stupid bracket, need to know the time, got stuff to do monday -___-
Pride
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i got a bye past machine in the first round, was all happy thinking i was gonna make progress, then i got 2-0'd by strifecro. :D always next time.
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UARGHGHGHGHHG!! WCG Y U NO POST BRACKETS??
T_T
I don't know what to do!
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Wow I wish I was on the bottom half... lol
GL HF, grats in advance idra o/
so according to the brackets, 7 PM PST?
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nah those brackets seem pretty equal to me
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LOL...
idra kawaiirice nadagast painuser axslav in the top half of the bracket..... wtf O_O
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It's random - luck of the draw
8PM CST is 6PM PST
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On May 03 2011 07:30 Laurent wrote:
It's random - luck of the draw
8PM CST is 6PM PST
yes but the bracket shows 9 PM CST
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Bottom of the bracket is...interesting
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Wow, awesome to see Syckness playing SC2. Does anyone know what race he's playing?
Also, ex-EG member (from their former TF2 team) vs current EG member. :D
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fml i got kawaiirice.. You're going down buddy!! 3-1 here i come!! :D
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Its been fixed, dont know what happened - 8:00PM CST
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I feel like IdrA is going to take this one pretty easily seeing as the only other well-known players are his teammates, and IdrA with knowledge of what his opponent is doing = unstoppable.
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ar eyou serious...
idra.. i'm coming for you =]
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LOL MUTE GLHF SON
I'd expect Idra to take this quali. If not Idra definitely somebody from the top half of the top 16.
Interesting that its BO5 the whole way, pretty awesome.
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this is simple.. kawaiirice,axslav,idra then probalby either trimaster or strifeco for the all kill. Easiest bracket EVER..
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Sooo since I can't check the brackets due to the military blocking WCG website(s) whose in the top 16? (notable players)~
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Kawaii and Idra are the only two former broodwar finalists in this first top 16.
axslav and strifecro former war3 finalists.
nadagast (gosu warlock user from wow)
anyone know anything else about anyone else?
(trying to make sense of usa sc2 scene)
On May 03 2011 09:12 sYz-Adrenaline wrote:
Sooo since I can't check the brackets due to the military blocking WCG website(s) whose in the top 16? (notable players)~
couple pages back I posted the top 16 here on TL.
edit: added to the OP the top 16 under the bracket link.
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either idra or a terran user is going to win this tbh
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On May 03 2011 09:29 LuckyFool wrote:Kawaii and Idra are the only two former broodwar finalists in this first top 16. axslav and strifecro former war3 finalists. nadagast (gosu warlock user from wow) anyone know anything else about anyone else? (trying to make sense of usa sc2 scene) Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 09:12 sYz-Adrenaline wrote:
Sooo since I can't check the brackets due to the military blocking WCG website(s) whose in the top 16? (notable players)~ couple pages back I posted the top 16 here on TL. edit: added to the OP the top 16 under the bracket link.
i was the former #1 player of age of mythology
LOL
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Australia8532 Posts
I'd put my money on IdrA or Kawaii
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you're suppose to root for the underdogs
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On May 03 2011 09:45 lizzuma wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 09:29 LuckyFool wrote:Kawaii and Idra are the only two former broodwar finalists in this first top 16. axslav and strifecro former war3 finalists. nadagast (gosu warlock user from wow) anyone know anything else about anyone else? (trying to make sense of usa sc2 scene) On May 03 2011 09:12 sYz-Adrenaline wrote:
Sooo since I can't check the brackets due to the military blocking WCG website(s) whose in the top 16? (notable players)~ couple pages back I posted the top 16 here on TL. edit: added to the OP the top 16 under the bracket link. i was the former #1 player of age of mythology LOL
LOL that's the best thing i've ever heard. You got this bro.
Poor MUTE Cinderella story yo, make it happen.
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The top half looks so much harder than the bottom half :| lol.
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On May 03 2011 09:45 lizzuma wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 09:29 LuckyFool wrote:Kawaii and Idra are the only two former broodwar finalists in this first top 16. axslav and strifecro former war3 finalists. nadagast (gosu warlock user from wow) anyone know anything else about anyone else? (trying to make sense of usa sc2 scene) On May 03 2011 09:12 sYz-Adrenaline wrote:
Sooo since I can't check the brackets due to the military blocking WCG website(s) whose in the top 16? (notable players)~ couple pages back I posted the top 16 here on TL. edit: added to the OP the top 16 under the bracket link. i was the former #1 player of age of mythology LOL
And Michigan's best player. IdrA doesn't count for MI anymore !
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On May 03 2011 14:42 iCCup.Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 09:45 lizzuma wrote:On May 03 2011 09:29 LuckyFool wrote:Kawaii and Idra are the only two former broodwar finalists in this first top 16. axslav and strifecro former war3 finalists. nadagast (gosu warlock user from wow) anyone know anything else about anyone else? (trying to make sense of usa sc2 scene) On May 03 2011 09:12 sYz-Adrenaline wrote:
Sooo since I can't check the brackets due to the military blocking WCG website(s) whose in the top 16? (notable players)~ couple pages back I posted the top 16 here on TL. edit: added to the OP the top 16 under the bracket link. i was the former #1 player of age of mythology LOL And Michigan's best player. IdrA doesn't count for MI anymore !
Kimber doesnt enjoy blanket statements about the best players in MI.
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Newsh - placed top 25 at MLG DC and Dallas (2010) for sixjax gaming. Former War3 and WoW pro, I believe he dropped off the sixjax team to focus on raid progression for his WoW guild.
Trimaster - Defeated CatZ at MLG Dallas (2011) in open bracket play but knocked out by Naniwa.
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Man, I really want to play in this. I had such a great time at WCG last year, but 3-4 am Romanian time is just incredibly hard for me to manage.
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It's not just one night either you have to work it out for a full week+ (now basically 2 weeks)
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cheesed out by newsh. who the fuck is newsh anyways?
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Ouch! Pretty sure g1 and g2 were pretty legit
mad
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On May 04 2011 09:19 sixjaxNewsh wrote:
Ouch! Pretty sure g1 and g2 were pretty legit
mad
Dont take it personal, Crack Clan arent exactly known for their diplomacy.
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whats the channel? or if the guy im playing can contact me? i added you on bnet but i dunno who you are and no message
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WCGUSA channel gogo.
bo5's all the way ?
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My understanding is that from today till friday is a Bo5 single-elimination tournament between the top 16 US qualified players for the first qualifier spot... And there's no stream? So instead of watching exciting games (replay cast or otherwise) between the likes of Idra, Nadagast, and Kawaiirice, we have a thread slowly updating us with the results. Don't know what WCG is thinking, but they need to get with the times. So many good games missed.
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On May 04 2011 11:04 Azarkon wrote:
My understanding is that today is a Bo5 single-elimination tournament between the top 16 US qualified players for the first qualifier spot... And there's no stream? Don't get this part of WCG policy.
Yeah I'm kind of sad, wanted to see Idra play. But I guess it helps eliminate cheating so it's all good.
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stream plz ftw
edit: why cant they just make delayed stream with 10 mins... it shouldnt be that hard
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On May 04 2011 11:06 Chewbacca. wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2011 11:04 Azarkon wrote:
My understanding is that today is a Bo5 single-elimination tournament between the top 16 US qualified players for the first qualifier spot... And there's no stream? Don't get this part of WCG policy. Yeah I'm kind of sad, wanted to see Idra play. But I guess it helps eliminate cheating so it's all good.
They can easily prevent cheating by delaying the stream or casting from replays. But they don't even release the replays. I guess in BW this helped people hide their build orders? But with BNET 2.0 you can see someone's build order from their match history. Sigh.
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yeah epic PvZ going on between NrGMute and eg.idra, LOL
all I can do is get updates in channels on bnet !! lololol
kawaii 3-0 pride, not too surprising there. I'm anticipating an adrian vs idra mu in the semis.
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On May 04 2011 11:10 LuckyFool wrote:
yeah epic PvZ going on between NrGMute and eg.idra, LOL
all I can do is get updates in channels on bnet !! lololol
Would appreciate it if you could post the results that you manage to hear. ^_^
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2-1 Idra so far going into game 4.
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Be sure to keep us updated from the channel!
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On May 04 2011 11:11 LuckyFool wrote:
2-1 Idra so far going into game 4.
Thanks so much for live reporting for us, any specific details into the games itself? Are you spectating it? How did Idra lose? Why is it epic? How did Idra win the two games? What is your social security number?
Idra needs to win quick so he can start streaming btw. Needs to get 10k viewers than send them all to state of the game to get the fabled 2000.
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On May 04 2011 09:11 lizzuma wrote:
cheesed out by newsh. who the fuck is newsh anyways?
who the fuck is lizzuma anyways?
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i got wtfpwnor by kawaiirice..
i was close the first game.. after that.. he rOLLED me like a cake sause
GOOD luck RICE
go gogo bape idra for me..
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summary of games of me vs idra (not really epic lol):
obviously idra is a pro (the best pro in NA and one of the top outside of korea for sure) and i am an amateur so i went into the games thinking I should use a combination of cheese and macro to keep things interesting.
game 1: shakuras
i go double nexus and he goes pool hatch, then hatch at 3rd base vertical, we both build shit...after a while i decided to go for the anypro build of 1-1 upgrades with gateways and 1 obs to detect burrow roaches...idra scouts most of this i think and goes enough roaches/lings to stop my attack. I try to fake taking a third base but it doesnt matter lol.
1-0 for idra
game 2: xel naga
ive seen on this map idra likes to punish 3 gate expoers so i decided to fake out 3 gate expo (cancelling nexus) and go fast dts...he goes roach ling attack without lair so my dts work.
1-1
game 3:
he chooses terminus re.. i go 3 gate expo, he takes a quick 3rd, i dont poke out enough in the beginning thinking hes making army (i made hallu to scout but it didnt do a good job) so he makes a ton of drones then scouts me with like 3 overlords to make sure no shenanigans are going on. unfortunately this map like slag pits lags like shit for me, i dont know why but something about the textures on this map and slag pits are horrible so I decide im going to do a 2 base timing attack again. I try double robo immortals to counter mass roach and idra scouts it and makes enough hydras to crush it. also im not sure if he was just messing around or what but he would drive overlords in my base and start pooping at random points ^_^ xD
game 4:
i choose shattered temple and we get close spawns. Im thinking in my head idra likes to do anti-3 gate expo on close spawns on maps like this but im thinking since i went dts before he wont do it. Well he out-mindgamed me on this one as he actually did do a punishing build and so I lose my nexus and its all down hill from there
gg
i will practice hard so hopefully i can give a better series next time and maybe actually play some macro style games
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+ Show Spoiler +Kawaii and IdrA will probably meet next round which is a shame as that would have been an awesome final Yay for Strife though as well
^^thanks for the recap mute! Really appreciate it no shame in losing to IdrA
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Strife edges out TriMaster 3-2 =(.
Maybe next time bro.
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hey mute if you want to share the reps that would be great too! People used to do that in broodwar since wcg doesnt do any coverage of qualis.
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Thanks a lot for the summary Mute, is a shame we couldn't seem them streamed.
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Can someone please stream or cast Nadagast vs. IdrA?
I'm pretty sure it'll be a huge hit, Nadagast is one of the most well-known players outside of TL simply because he's a baller at any game hes ever played.
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Strange how Nadagast never joined a team or anything, he's kept such a low profile despite being incredibly good !_!~
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On May 04 2011 15:26 Xeris wrote:
Strange how Nadagast never joined a team or anything, he's kept such a low profile despite being incredibly good !_!~
Isn't he in LG?
EDIT: nvm he isn't
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As of right now , we will try to stream the finals of every qualifier.
As far as replays, you will need to ask the players for them.
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Most of the matchups tonight should be great,
Kawaii/Axslav (TVP AHHHH)
Idra/Nadagast
Everize/Newsh
Strifecro/tqstate
Gonna say Kawaii, Idra, Everize and Strifecro will be the final four.
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On May 05 2011 10:26 wind555551 wrote:
Is there WCG for Canada?
Yes
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On May 05 2011 10:32 mikyaJ wrote:Yes
i hope by yes, you mean no :D There has been no announcements from WCG Canada yet, and I doubt there will be, WCG Canada has been slighting RTS games for a couple years now.
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I lost to Idra 0-3, ggs!
I need to practice TvZ :D
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On May 05 2011 11:08 Nadagast wrote:
I lost to Idra 0-3, ggs!
I need to practice TvZ :D
Too be fair it is Idra .
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On May 05 2011 11:33 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 11:08 Nadagast wrote:
I lost to Idra 0-3, ggs!
I need to practice TvZ :D Too be fair it is Idra .
Yeah sorry I didn't mean to imply that I woulda won if my TvZ was in shape, just that I did worse than I wanted to. Idra played really well.
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On May 05 2011 11:52 Nadagast wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 11:33 blade55555 wrote:On May 05 2011 11:08 Nadagast wrote:
I lost to Idra 0-3, ggs!
I need to practice TvZ :D Too be fair it is Idra . Yeah sorry I didn't mean to imply that I woulda won if my TvZ was in shape, just that I did worse than I wanted to. Idra played really well.
Oh I know I was just meaning don't feel too bad about losing 3-0 as Idra has been very beastly as of late ^_^
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axslav 3-2 me in an epic offrace/rvr series
GL coinflipping vs idra O_O!!!
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Quite the EG stacked final 4.
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Did strife and state play? If strife won/wins 3 of the 4 will be EG...
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I really wanna see what happened in the Kawaii v. Axslav match.
On May 05 2011 12:29 KawaiiRice wrote:
axslav 3-2 me in an epic offrace/rvr series
GL coinflipping vs idra O_O!!!
Did you guys actually do that!? That seems like it must've been interesting, I hope the replays get released eventually haha.
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On May 05 2011 15:18 a9arnn wrote:I really wanna see what happened in the Kawaii v. Axslav match. Show nested quote +On May 05 2011 12:29 KawaiiRice wrote:
axslav 3-2 me in an epic offrace/rvr series
GL coinflipping vs idra O_O!!! Did you guys actually do that!? That seems like it must've been interesting, I hope the replays get released eventually haha.
Winner plays idra so neither of us really cared loll ~~!
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Meaning you both think there is no chance you can beat Idra?
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you couldve not let the protoss through if you didnt care
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It's only fair Axslav plays random against Idra as well
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On May 05 2011 17:00 IdrA wrote:
you couldve not let the protoss through if you didnt care
lol!
GL Idra!
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whoa strife lost? no chance of eg vs eg finals anymore.
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Is there a stream for this anywhere? I want to watch IdrA vs Axslav
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You could've just asked Axslav nicely to lose to you...
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On May 06 2011 09:31 holy_war wrote:
You could've just asked Axslav nicely to lose to you...
To be fair, the way those two have been playing lately, I would hope they both qualify
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Are Idra/Axslav not playing each other? o_O
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It shows it was today at 8 central. Wish there was a stream of this. You know with IdrA you'll get tons of views. If anyone finds out the result of IdrA vs. Axslav pm me the result or post here please :o
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Well i lost ro4 to TqState 3-2 oh well ;d
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Any word on where the USA finals will be held or is still to early to know?
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On May 06 2011 13:42 sYz-Adrenaline wrote:
Any word on where the USA finals will be held or is still to early to know?
The WCG site says it'll be posted in the coming months.
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sorry we had an esea match at 6 and then idra left after the esea match and then i left and when i got back he had already gone to sleep, we'll play tommorrow sometime (before 6 when the finals will be), and maybe he'll stream it. Either way I'll post here when we play and/or know when we're going to.
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I'm just gunna go ahead and apologize in advance for the finals.. No one should be expecting me to match Idra or Axslav. They're too scary. T_T
Sorry!
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I'll root for you State
Edit: I even used my hundredth post, don't let me down!
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On May 07 2011 00:14 Thrax wrote:I'll root for you State Edit: I even used my hundredth post, don't let me down!
OH GOD! So much pressure!
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We're about to play, sorry there are no streams, but if it's allowed (somebody let me know if it is) I can post the replays after.
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Looks like IdrA took the first game on Crevasse - good luck to all 3 players left in this qualifier!
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On May 07 2011 06:51 State wrote:
Gogo Axslav! Getem!
No, gogo YOU! :D gl vs Idra, you're probably gonna need all the luck you need (No offense)!
Edit: Rooting for the underdog is always fun!
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he won 3-0 on crevasse, shattered temple, and then crossfire. None of the games were rly remotely close a clean clobbering.
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Oh, God.. I'm so dead.
a9arnn, I'll need more than luck. T_T
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On May 07 2011 06:58 State wrote:
Oh, God.. I'm so dead.
a9arnn, I'll need more than luck. T_T
dood, go into this thinking youre gonna wreck face, not that you'll get crushed. YOU GOT THIS. pull a day9 story.
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After Idra I have no idea who else will qualify this year for usa. State you picked a bad week to get to the finals man lol shoulda saved a run like this for a week WITHOUT idra.
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Even if IdrA qualifies, he will still be here. He will still be watching. He will see me advance in rounds, cast his black magic, and destroy me.
It's just as the prophecy has foretold.
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@IdrA
If you're having trouble contacting me, I sent you a friend request. My ID is tQState.245 if the request didn't happen to go through.
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On May 07 2011 10:00 State wrote:
@IdrA
If you're having trouble contacting me, I sent you a friend request. My ID is tQState.245 if the request didn't happen to go through.
Would him being temp banned affect you contacting him? Hm.
+ I only meant on TL.
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No, that's alright. I found him in the WCG channel. We'll be playing now.
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3-1 IdrA! I'd say they were ggs, but I'd be lying. He stomped me.
Good luck at WCG!
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You still had a good run man
Grats to IdrA
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Nice try state
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its not a glitch its kawaiirice abusing the score reporting shiz. just wait till next quali he'll be winnin games 1337-0.
Question for Laurent about last chance qualis, who do we know will be in those? Will it be the top 4 from each open quali ? So guys like Axslav/State/Everize guaranteed spots in the last two qualis ? The rules are vague about this just want to clarify how those two last qualis are going to work.
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omfg i have such a bad memory of wcg after last years qualifiers!!! hahaha
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lol that game 3 vs sterling on bluestorm.... Q__________Q
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I registered for the 5th online qualifier, and I'm pretty terrified at the people that are also in this qualifier, hahah. Should be really fun
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On May 07 2011 14:53 Superiorwolf wrote:
omfg i have such a bad memory of wcg after last years qualifiers!!! hahaha
^_^
Anyways, congrats to Idra, qualifies on his first attempt two years in a row (at least?).
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was nr2 moved from 5/9 to 5/16 or?
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Dates updated, the initial schedule was not accommodating the two week for each qualifier schedule.
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The Last Chance qualifiers will have the top 32 from each SC2 qualifier.
So if you finished top 32 in this last qualifier you have guaranteed yourself a spot in the Last Chance Qualifier.
People who have already qualified cannot participate in any other qualifiers.
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On May 07 2011 11:04 State wrote:
3-1 IdrA! I'd say they were ggs, but I'd be lying. He stomped me.
Good luck at WCG!
Hey man, you took a game off him. That alone is impressive.
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On May 08 2011 07:56 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2011 11:04 State wrote:
3-1 IdrA! I'd say they were ggs, but I'd be lying. He stomped me.
Good luck at WCG! Hey man, you took a game off him. That alone is impressive.
well...depends on how he did it...but if it was a stright up macro game then yeah
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It was honestly that game was a pretty epic game was really happy with how Viles new player played.
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On May 08 2011 09:20 CosmicHippo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 07:56 Dexington wrote:On May 07 2011 11:04 State wrote:
3-1 IdrA! I'd say they were ggs, but I'd be lying. He stomped me.
Good luck at WCG! Hey man, you took a game off him. That alone is impressive. well...depends on how he did it...but if it was a stright up macro game then yeah
Yes because macro games are the only measure of skill.
Next up Gsp has decleared he wont wrestle his oponent, as too many people have accused him of cheesing.
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Since all of the slots are filled up, is it impossible to get into a qualifier now?
edit nvm
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On May 08 2011 09:42 Rarak wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 09:20 CosmicHippo wrote:On May 08 2011 07:56 Dexington wrote:On May 07 2011 11:04 State wrote:
3-1 IdrA! I'd say they were ggs, but I'd be lying. He stomped me.
Good luck at WCG! Hey man, you took a game off him. That alone is impressive. well...depends on how he did it...but if it was a stright up macro game then yeah Yes because macro games are the only measure of skill. Next up Gsp has decleared he wont wrestle his oponent, as too many people have accused him of cheesing.
It's more impressive because it is generally considered easier to beat Idra with cheese or risky play rather than a straight up macro game.
And in addition, having the capability to beat Idra in a straight up macro game means that he must have at least a high level of RTS skill. Having the capability to beat someone with an early game play could still be a result of luck and minimal skill.
Tricky play is more like poker. Straight up macro game is more like chess.
In chess if you beat someone good you must be good. In poker if you win a hand against a pro you can still have no clue what you're doing.
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On May 08 2011 20:20 Frozenserpent wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 09:42 Rarak wrote:On May 08 2011 09:20 CosmicHippo wrote:On May 08 2011 07:56 Dexington wrote:On May 07 2011 11:04 State wrote:
3-1 IdrA! I'd say they were ggs, but I'd be lying. He stomped me.
Good luck at WCG! Hey man, you took a game off him. That alone is impressive. well...depends on how he did it...but if it was a stright up macro game then yeah Yes because macro games are the only measure of skill. Next up Gsp has decleared he wont wrestle his oponent, as too many people have accused him of cheesing. It's more impressive because it is generally considered easier to beat Idra with cheese or risky play rather than a straight up macro game. And in addition, having the capability to beat Idra in a straight up macro game means that he must have at least a high level of RTS skill. Having the capability to beat someone with an early game play could still be a result of luck and minimal skill. Tricky play is more like poker. Straight up macro game is more like chess. In chess if you beat someone good you must be good. In poker if you win a hand against a pro you can still have no clue what you're doing.
Whether it be more impressive or not. It discredits nothing that's being said here. Beating IdrA is impressive. Bottom line.
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Just a reminder for everyone -
The qualifiers have been expanded to 512 spots , so anyone who was on the waiting list before has now been moved to the confirmed list
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Congrats to Idra, and any others who manage to qualify.
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Why are they using close position maps in the map pool? Close positions metal and shattered temple are not even remotely balanced.
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Quali 2 starts tomorrow aye? We need sum bracketz.
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Such a strange map pool, terminus RE instead of SE, ladder Metal and Temple
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working on them brackets now
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Well played IdrA - congratulations!
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Adpgm if you read this let me know sober can roll our match tomorrow afternoon. I got detached for a 24 hour duty assignment for the military starting at 7pm est >_<;
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I'm liking the color scheme on these brackets.
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Why am I not surprised that IdrA qualifed??
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On May 17 2011 08:35 TemplarCo. wrote:
Why am I not surprised that IdrA qualifed??
Because you know at least a little bit about SC1 and SC2?
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On May 17 2011 08:32 Jonoman92 wrote:
I'm liking the color scheme on these brackets.
whoa dude we got some sick bracket upgrades man these look amazing.
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Any reason why IdrA apparently is playing in this qualifier as well? Didn't he already qualify in the first one?
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idra won't be playing in this qualifier. or any other qualifier. he's qualified!
if his name is in the brackets somewhere he'll get w.o'd everyone signs up for every quali at the beginning of the year but once you win you stop playing in them.
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On May 17 2011 08:59 Alphaes wrote:
Any reason why IdrA apparently is playing in this qualifier as well? Didn't he already qualify in the first one?
He probably signed up for all of them all at once in case he didn't make it (for whatever reason) the first time. The person who plays IdrA this week gets a W/O over him.
edit: DAMN YOU ROB D:
edit2: This goes on for any other person who wins the next qualifier and so on.
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tt why don't these brackets show character codes? I only have one slot left on my real id and if I use it I can't get new requests.
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Is artosis2 artosis? Hmm and tyler is not playing in this 1 too... Seems as though he does not want to play wcg
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qcxc is qxc? Also, hopefully Tyler signs on for a couple qualifiers later on.
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On May 17 2011 08:52 LuckyFool wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 08:32 Jonoman92 wrote:
I'm liking the color scheme on these brackets. whoa dude we got some sick bracket upgrades man these look amazing.
Yeah these are pretty sexy
T_T kawaii round 3
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I guess Select signed up, thought it was US citizens only
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pride advances to round2 :D
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Smexy brackets color-wise this time around, gl to everyone!
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On May 17 2011 10:22 Justanx wrote:
I guess Select signed up, thought it was US citizens only
it is for US citizens only. Im assuming he has dual citizenship with the US and KR, like the other koreans and canadians in the US qualifier. Although i really wish WCG checked eligibility before the qualifiers, so there isnt any doubt, but if they arent, they are going to knock everyone out, and then we will find out if they are eligible or not.
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On May 17 2011 23:53 KiF1rE wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 10:22 Justanx wrote:
I guess Select signed up, thought it was US citizens only
it is for US citizens only. Im assuming he has dual citizenship with the US and KR, like the other koreans and canadians in the US qualifier. Although i really wish WCG checked eligibility before the qualifiers, so there isnt any doubt, but if they arent, they are going to knock everyone out, and then we will find out if they are eligible or not.
Considering how difficult it is to get US citizenship, I would be surprised that he was granted it as he only attended college here in the USA for a few years. Guess I will ask him if I play him as it would suck to be knocked out by someone not eligible (assuming we both win round 2, we play in the 3rd round of this qualifier).
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want to play in this but server lag issues are too extreme
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On May 18 2011 00:08 Liquid`HuK wrote:
want to play in this but server lag issues are too extreme
What stops you from trying? its not like you have anything to lose.
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On May 18 2011 00:08 Liquid`HuK wrote:
want to play in this but server lag issues are too extreme
you have dual citizenship? - as much as id love to see you win it, its USA qualifiers
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On May 18 2011 00:03 [-Bluewolf-] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2011 23:53 KiF1rE wrote:On May 17 2011 10:22 Justanx wrote:
I guess Select signed up, thought it was US citizens only
it is for US citizens only. Im assuming he has dual citizenship with the US and KR, like the other koreans and canadians in the US qualifier. Although i really wish WCG checked eligibility before the qualifiers, so there isnt any doubt, but if they arent, they are going to knock everyone out, and then we will find out if they are eligible or not. Considering how difficult it is to get US citizenship, I would be surprised that he was granted it as he only attended college here in the USA for a few years. Guess I will ask him if I play him as it would suck to be knocked out by someone not eligible (assuming we both win round 2, we play in the 3rd round of this qualifier).
the same thoughts i had about FXO moonan, i was just knocked out by him yesterday, im assuming he somehow got a US citizenship while going to college for a few years or something, which is why i didnt think about asking him =/ How difficult is it to get citizenship here? ive never really looked just heard it took a while, but not sure how long a while is...
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On May 18 2011 00:41 KiF1rE wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 00:03 [-Bluewolf-] wrote:On May 17 2011 23:53 KiF1rE wrote:On May 17 2011 10:22 Justanx wrote:
I guess Select signed up, thought it was US citizens only
it is for US citizens only. Im assuming he has dual citizenship with the US and KR, like the other koreans and canadians in the US qualifier. Although i really wish WCG checked eligibility before the qualifiers, so there isnt any doubt, but if they arent, they are going to knock everyone out, and then we will find out if they are eligible or not. Considering how difficult it is to get US citizenship, I would be surprised that he was granted it as he only attended college here in the USA for a few years. Guess I will ask him if I play him as it would suck to be knocked out by someone not eligible (assuming we both win round 2, we play in the 3rd round of this qualifier). the same thoughts i had about FXO moonan, i was just knocked out by him yesterday, im assuming he somehow got a US citizenship while going to college for a few years or something, which is why i didnt think about asking him =/ How difficult is it to get citizenship here? ive never really looked just heard it took a while, but not sure how long a while is...
Seeing as my wife just got her US citizenship, the rules are you must possess a US immigrant visa for 5 years (green Card) then you can apply for citizenship. Unless his parents are US citizens. Then he can hold dual citizenship. The are only a few exceptions such as military service which can shorten the process to 3 years. I m hoping for them to make if all is legal, and thats for WCG to figure out. Just sucks for the people that get knocked out I wonder how they will go back.
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So if he is on a student visa it would not count.
Ok just checked the forums in the WCG and Select wrote
#1 [United States] SeleCT -
Hello
I am KyeongHyunRyoo as known as SeleCT from team dignitas.
I have a question
I am currently living in USA but I am not US citizen. I only have greencard. Is there anyway to play WCG for me?
case solved
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On May 18 2011 00:18 SMD wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 00:08 Liquid`HuK wrote:
want to play in this but server lag issues are too extreme you have dual citizenship? - as much as id love to see you win it, its USA qualifiers
I think he does...
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Hmm justanx thanks for detailing that, Then more than likely most of the koreans players living in the US arent full fledged citizens, just here on a student visa...
Any way to dispute a loss, if this is the case?
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On May 18 2011 00:18 SMD wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2011 00:08 Liquid`HuK wrote:
want to play in this but server lag issues are too extreme you have dual citizenship? - as much as id love to see you win it, its USA qualifiers
I believe HuK was born in the United States, so he would hold dual citizenship.
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Dispute the loss where? I dont see where youve played him
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We need the appropriate proof that hes not before I can remove or FF him. I have already removed Select from the bracket
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wooooooooooooooo so exciting!!!!!!
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On May 18 2011 04:14 Laurent wrote:
We need the appropriate proof that hes not before I can remove or FF him. I have already removed Select from the bracket
yeah which you wont be able to prove or disprove until after the bracket is played out, since WCG only asks after the bracket is won.
But with what im reading about us citizenship its highly unlikely that he has it. The only thing you we can really do is ask him, and tell him if he isnt he cant win. thats about it.
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pride advances to round3 :D
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On May 18 2011 10:28 PrideTV wrote:
pride advances to round3 :D
Do you always post in the third person?
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Interesting that iNcontrol and Agh meet in the 2nd round of the bracket for the second straight qualifier...lol
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On May 18 2011 10:28 PrideTV wrote:
pride advances to round3 :D
pride from wc3?
ahh man if I knew it was you I woulda been prepared for those scv all-ins =/
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i can't add any more real ids, why not put character code instead?
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On May 18 2011 04:14 Laurent wrote:
We need the appropriate proof that hes not before I can remove or FF him. I have already removed Select from the bracket
So thats what happened. Bummer I was hoping to get a chance to play him. Oh well on to round 3.
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one of the bigger matchups I see tonight is Poke vs Kawaii. Combined age of that match is still under whitera yes? Close enough imo.
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GJ Fool, you always keep these running so well.
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I wonder if Artosis2 is the real Artosis, Bracket B
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On May 19 2011 00:57 Justanx wrote:
I wonder if Artosis2 is the real Artosis, Bracket B
He's still in Korea, I would be pissed if I had to play him over that latency.
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If I win tonight (pretty sure I will), I get Strifecro followed by Moonan. Well my WCG run was fun!
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On May 19 2011 00:57 Justanx wrote:
I wonder if Artosis2 is the real Artosis, Bracket B
Yes, that is the real Artosis. I played against him in the first round.
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Are there any requirements on league or can anyone try out?
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On May 19 2011 10:37 astroorion wrote:
Are there any requirements on league or can anyone try out?
Just have to be a US Citizen, you can register for free at http://us.wcg.com/
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pride advances to the next round :D
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On May 19 2011 10:35 toast4 wrote:WCG USA 2011 Qualifier #1 Finals will be casted by Husky tomorrow (5/19) at 9:30 EST featuring EGIdra vs TqState. You can watch the stream at http://us.wcg.com/ or www.justin.tv/wcgusa
You can't be serious.
FUUUUUUUUUUUCK.
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my picks for the top 16 of this qualifier:
gensulitor
kawaiirice
sin
vibe
thirdeye**
axslav
moonan
thisisjimmy
Gatored
Nadagast
Agh
Hashe
Sterling
scdpride
Skew
Time
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On May 20 2011 03:36 State wrote:You can't be serious. FUUUUUUUUUUUCK.
What's wrong? ._.
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It'll be funny if moonan makes the finals, the other player would automatically know they qualified.
unless moonan actually is a US citizen?
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i wouldn't imagine he is a us citizen ~_~
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On May 20 2011 06:59 Mailing wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 03:36 State wrote:On May 19 2011 10:35 toast4 wrote:WCG USA 2011 Qualifier #1 Finals will be casted by Husky tomorrow (5/19) at 9:30 EST featuring EGIdra vs TqState. You can watch the stream at http://us.wcg.com/ or www.justin.tv/wcgusa You can't be serious. FUUUUUUUUUUUCK. What's wrong? ._.
Prob because Husky is commentating. Alot of people hate him on this site for some reason.
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Yeah I really don't know why WCG can't just ask Moonan, so if he isn't ,it doesn't mess up the brackets. It prolly has been done.
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Canada1637 Posts
On May 20 2011 07:58 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 06:59 Mailing wrote:On May 20 2011 03:36 State wrote:On May 19 2011 10:35 toast4 wrote:WCG USA 2011 Qualifier #1 Finals will be casted by Husky tomorrow (5/19) at 9:30 EST featuring EGIdra vs TqState. You can watch the stream at http://us.wcg.com/ or www.justin.tv/wcgusa You can't be serious. FUUUUUUUUUUUCK. What's wrong? ._. Prob because Husky is commentating. Alot of people hate him on this site for some reason.
Look at the posters name, don't think it has anything to do with the caster.
Hope I'm not really spoiling anything, but I think everyone knows who qualified...
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WCG has a habit of not checking until right before the finals, which is awesome cuz it ruins chances for so many other players t-t
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Very nice for state to have these games casted. very nice by wcg to do this too. maybe in the future semifinals will get casted too!
very nice quality stream.
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WCG still playing on garbage maps... At least MLG knows how to make a good tournament.
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On May 20 2011 11:06 aurum510 wrote:
WCG still playing on garbage maps... At least MLG knows how to make a good tournament.
Hey man I was expecting jungle basin, kulas and steppes of war. when I checked the map pool I was actually really impressed with wcg. =p
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On May 20 2011 11:09 LuckyFool wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 11:06 aurum510 wrote:
WCG still playing on garbage maps... At least MLG knows how to make a good tournament. Hey man I was expecting jungle basin, kulas and steppes of war. when I checked the map pool I was actually really impressed with wcg. =p
actually that was the original map pool when it was first put up lol.... well something close to that. That changed though a day later.
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No close-positions would be nice, though.
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woot idra won the first qualifier!
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Lol I bet Idra threw his games vs skew (qualifier 2 bracket A) since he's already qualified, cause I'm pretty sure they're friends (correct me if I'm wrong). I don't blame him i would do that for a friend, It's just funny
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On May 20 2011 14:21 PGriff wrote:
Lol I bet Idra threw his games vs skew (qualifier 2 bracket A) since he's already qualified, cause I'm pretty sure they're friends (correct me if I'm wrong). I don't blame him i would do that for a friend, It's just funny
I would guess that he just didn't play them?
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Shattered Temple
Metalopolis
Shakuras Plateau
Xel'Naga Caverns
Tal'darim Altar LE
Crevasse
Crossfire SE
Terminus RE
The map pool for those that are wondering, far from bad.
hmmm missed that it was included in the OP, oh well.
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On May 20 2011 14:21 PGriff wrote:
Lol I bet Idra threw his games vs skew (qualifier 2 bracket A) since he's already qualified, cause I'm pretty sure they're friends (correct me if I'm wrong). I don't blame him i would do that for a friend, It's just funny
Why would he play again if he's already qualified? Everybody signs up for all the qualifiers before the events start, and if they already qualified then there's no reason to play in the rest of them.
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On May 20 2011 09:47 Xeris wrote:
WCG has a habit of not checking until right before the finals, which is awesome cuz it ruins chances for so many other players t-t
Agreed, and there is no way to go back and replay the games that people have lost to him.
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On May 20 2011 23:52 Justanx wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2011 09:47 Xeris wrote:
WCG has a habit of not checking until right before the finals, which is awesome cuz it ruins chances for so many other players t-t Agreed, and there is no way to go back and replay the games that people have lost to him.
actually there is, just have them play a marathon of games of people that lost to him before the round of 16. Any one that wants a second shot should be able to get it if it he isnt eligible, or it kinda invalidates the placement of the last chance qualifiers and the prestige of the US qualifier. I know i could have gone much further.
and as for people saying IdrA threw his matches... Hes Disqualified from every future qualify due to qualifying and cant play in any qualifiers at all by the rules. He signed up for every qualifier when they went live, like everyone else. which is why he appears in every qualifier.
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Moonan claims he applied for citizenship and will have it by the time the US Finals start
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Is the Artosis2 on the Bracket B from Q2 the real Artosis? He is on round 5
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On May 21 2011 02:28 Mephyss wrote:
Is the Artosis2 on the Bracket B from Q2 the real Artosis? He is on round 5
I think so, though Agh will wreck him :B
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On May 21 2011 01:00 Laurent wrote:
Moonan claims he applied for citizenship and will have it by the time the US Finals start
I don't want to get into this much, but this statement leads to all sorts of trouble. The official policy then appears to be that the online qualifiers are open to those that are citizens or those that have an application in process, correct?
This can lead to trouble as these applications are not equivalent to that of applying for a passport. We are talking 12 to 18 months here for the process after one has submitted their application (source1, source2, and source3). Can you clarify WCG's policy if his citizenship does not come through in time?
ie: Does the 2nd place player from a qualifier he is in attend? Is it that all the 2nd place players from the 8 qualifiers get to do a mini-tournament to decide who goes? How much notice will these players be given (if any at all)? Or does Moonan get to the exact WCG USA finals date to get citizenship and if he fails to obtain it all of his matches are just forfeits? Or can he compete in the WCG USA finals still with his "pending" status?
It might not come into play (I hope his application goes well!), but I am curious as to the rules for this complex situation to best understand possible scenarios. This information will also be useful for qualifiers in the future. Thanks!
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My opponent, Mass, reported a 2-0 victory after agreeing to reschedule. Fortunately I took screenshots, hopefully it will be fixed^^
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On May 21 2011 01:00 Laurent wrote:
Moonan claims he applied for citizenship and will have it by the time the US Finals start
i agree with bluewolf this could become really confusing, when did he apply? and what if it doesnt go through in time or fails... as then you have alot of online qualifier matches with invalid games =/
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iNcontrol vs Agh
WCG qualifier rivalry.
Seems like a lot of interesting matches are happening.
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Are there VODs out for the qualifiers that have been played? I cant get the justintv stream thingy to work, maybe I', doing it wrong?
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Artosis
United States2140 Posts
HasHe and TQDante !
I sent messages to you both on the WCG website. You guys play your match tomorrow, 1.5 hours before I'm supposed to play one of you.
I just moved yesterday, and the internet guy hasn't been able to come yet. Is it ok with whoever wins to postpone the match a day or 2?
Would much appreciate it, GL!
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On May 21 2011 03:06 [-Bluewolf-] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2011 01:00 Laurent wrote:
Moonan claims he applied for citizenship and will have it by the time the US Finals start I don't want to get into this much, but this statement leads to all sorts of trouble. The official policy then appears to be that the online qualifiers are open to those that are citizens or those that have an application in process, correct? This can lead to trouble as these applications are not equivalent to that of applying for a passport. We are talking 12 to 18 months here for the process after one has submitted their application ( source1, source2, and source3). Can you clarify WCG's policy if his citizenship does not come through in time? ie: Does the 2nd place player from a qualifier he is in attend? Is it that all the 2nd place players from the 8 qualifiers get to do a mini-tournament to decide who goes? How much notice will these players be given (if any at all)? Or does Moonan get to the exact WCG USA finals date to get citizenship and if he fails to obtain it all of his matches are just forfeits? Or can he compete in the WCG USA finals still with his "pending" status? It might not come into play (I hope his application goes well!), but I am curious as to the rules for this complex situation to best understand possible scenarios. This information will also be useful for qualifiers in the future. Thanks!
Typically if a player can not attend or isn't eligible the 2nd place of the quali will get the spot. If the 2nd place player qualifies in a subsequent qualifier (I know this happened last year) notifications were sent to players who made the top 4 of the quali inviting them to the finals. (Sup Zlasher)
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Artosis - you can't postpone the match that long - top 16 will be starting
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Artosis and Hashe - We need a result tonight at the latest. If its not played by tonight I will have to pick a winner at random
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Artosis must still be moving...looks like he picked a bad time to move. time to pull out the laptop and play touchpad caucasianasian style.
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Top 16 brackets are up.
http://us.wcg.com/?page=stem_schedule&stageid=4120
Winner of Artosis / Hashe plays in the TBD spot.
Matches cannot be delayed unless the next round opponent is informed.
Whoever reaches the finals - please make sure to record all replays and report the score in the support system instead of on the site.
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Korea (South)11579 Posts
On May 24 2011 08:00 LuckyFool wrote:
Artosis must still be moving...looks like he picked a bad time to move. time to pull out the laptop and play touchpad caucasianasian style.
if that's the case you still need to have 30+ games with an A- player.
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Kawaiirice and Everize are literally the only two repeat players in this top 16, 14 new players lollol dont you just love sc2?
I miss nyoken and g5.
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Go Kawaii!! You can do it!!! Unless Artosis makes it through and manages to get to the finals, then NH pride all the way haha
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On May 25 2011 07:13 a9arnn wrote:Go Kawaii!! You can do it!!! Unless Artosis makes it through and manages to get to the finals, then NH pride all the way haha
You stole my post and posted it before I did almost a day ahead of me!
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On May 25 2011 22:51 sYz-Adrenaline wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2011 07:13 a9arnn wrote:Go Kawaii!! You can do it!!! Unless Artosis makes it through and manages to get to the finals, then NH pride all the way haha You stole my post and posted it before I did almost a day ahead of me!
Sorry D: , I didn't mean to haha.
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Hashe and Artosis play yet? O_o
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my bracket shows hashe as winning
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Moonan is being removed from WCG Qualifiers. HQ has made the decision that citizenship must be in hand first.
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Great decision by WCG imo, sucks for Moonan but it would be unfair for a Korean citizen to knock out American players in a WCG competition.
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Does anyone know if Select has US citizenship?
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On May 27 2011 06:49 grandmoose wrote:
Does anyone know if Select has US citizenship?
he does not. he only have a student visa.
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It's unfortunate moonan got removed :/ I've played him and lost 3 - 2
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you vs vibe tonight buddy, they revoked last night results.
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lol didn't know that Boo plays sc2, I will never forget Moon destroying him with glaive throwers. :D
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KawaiiRice looking for Sterling right now @__@!~
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got 3-0'd pretty ezly.
winner of kawaii/vibe will take this quali imo glgl.
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BoO doing work!!! Keep it up my boy!
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go Gatored! since u beat me, i expect you to win it all :D
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On May 27 2011 08:00 Everize wrote:
It's unfortunate moonan got removed :/ I've played him and lost 3 - 2
atleast you got advanced over, as it still shows i lost round 1, since he isnt eligible now.
i still want to dispute my loss in round 1 of the qualifier with this decision.... as it screws over potential chances to make the last chance qualifiers. But its kinda silly this qualifier is all the way into the finals =/
edit: meh got a response from my support ticket, basically said bracket is played out, sorry.... Why did this take so long to determine? cause i feel its complete garbage and undermines the validity and prestige of the last chance qualifier and the qualifier itself. and why cant the matches just be replayed? thats the only fair thing to do for the players that were eliminated, and essentially cheated out of their chance to go further. and besides who fairly gets the last chance qualifier slot?
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There are 6 more qualifiers before the Last Chance ............... its not fair to either person when theres a decision that has to be made - so therefore you let things run their course until a final decision has been made. You could have just beat him??
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^ i enjoy this response from laurent haha
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On May 30 2011 01:13 Laurent wrote:
There are 6 more qualifiers before the Last Chance ............... its not fair to either person when theres a decision that has to be made - so therefore you let things run their course until a final decision has been made. You could have just beat him??
there are actually 4 qualifiers left. 1 and 2 have been played, unless WCG is sending 10 players and hasnt announced it yet?
BTW it would be nice to defeat the rank 1 ineligible player in NA. The idea is to determine the best players from the USA, not Korea. and lets just leave it at that, its one thing to make a decision and decide to forfeit him, but its another thing to advance a player that lost, and not do it for everyone that lost to him. You guys have made your decision, i told my story about how its not fair and ill respect that, no matter how much i feel it was a poor decision that ruined the integrity of that qualifier. and this is the last ill mention of it. sorry for bringing this up.
On to qualifier number 3.
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less qq, more pewpew plz. everize really had it crazy, lost to moonan 2-3 then the result got revoked... insane shiz, last year we had zlasher brackets this year we have "pulling an everize" (lose a match yet still advance...) :D
btw
KAWAIIRICE FIGHTINGGGGGG tonight we find out who our 2nd wcg usa finals qualifier is!
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Congrats Gatored! Does anyone know what race he plays?
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He plays protoss and is on ONE. That's about all I know.
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Canada1637 Posts
Aw, was really rooting for Kawaii, either way grats to Gatored!
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Nooo Kawaii D: ... Well congrats Gatored! gl next qualifier Kawaii!
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Kawaii simply "F protoss" mentallity, no wonder he just couldn't handle the heat :D
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On May 31 2011 03:41 LuckyFool wrote:
He plays protoss and is on ONE. That's about all I know.
Thats all you need to know ^^.
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WCG USA will be broadcasting the finals of Qualifier #2 StarCraft 2 tournament between Fnatic-KawaiiRice (T) and ONEGatored (P) on Thursday, June 2nd at 7pm CST. You can watch the stream at http://us.wcg.com/ or www.justin.tv/wcgusa
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On May 28 2011 04:02 Caliber wrote:
go Gatored! since u beat me, i expect you to win it all :D
haha, good call gz Gatored
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So just to clarify, people who made top 32 in any of these qualis cannot play any other ones until the last 2? When do you think sign ups will open for those or will they be automated?
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Is what Ack said true? I had no clue that was a ruling o.o seems pretty ridiculous in my opinion if that is the case. Also, I've been told that Moonan competed in WCG USA back in 2005 or so, hmm, weird..
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Could we get a response on this please?
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On May 27 2011 06:29 Xeris wrote:
Great decision by WCG imo, sucks for Moonan but it would be unfair for a Korean citizen to knock out American players in a WCG competition.
Although its true, you really do take every opportunity to take a shot at korea dont you?
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On June 06 2011 22:26 cheesemaster wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2011 06:29 Xeris wrote:
Great decision by WCG imo, sucks for Moonan but it would be unfair for a Korean citizen to knock out American players in a WCG competition. Although its true, you really do take every opportunity to take a shot at korea dont you?
What are you talking about lol
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Qualifier three starts tonight in 10 minutes. Friendly reminder ^_^
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worst experience ive ever had. anyone who was on for the qualifer would know that only like 30 people showed up, me being one of them. I send a ticket asking how wait listed players get added into the tournament. i get a response a day later saying too bad the qualifer is already closed.
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Man, I'm leaving on 6/16 but the qualifier goes until 6/19 . . . guess I have to forfeit this qualifier? Noooo
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You can play in every qualifier until you qualify.
There is no top 32 rules - who is spreading these lies.
There is no way to know whos not going to show up for their matches. Because of the schedule we can't wait to see who are no shows and then add waiting list players to replace them. Just sign up for the qualifiers in advance and you wont be on the waiting list.
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Hi. I tried contacting KawaiiRice's opponent today (SUFFO.311) . KawaiiRice has his HS graduation today so he can't attend the match. He can play it any other time. If anyone sees/knows Suffo, please relay the message.
Hope you can be manner and help us out, thanks!
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wow kawaii is such an old fuk now, graduating hs... sheesh. :D
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Rofl duran you idiot wrong tournament lol!
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On June 11 2011 10:54 KawaiiRice wrote:
Rofl duran you idiot wrong tournament lol!
LOOOL
PS: Congrats on being gradumucated and educationalized!
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Uh lizzuma wtf are u doing? We play tomorrow
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/jB80X.jpg)
you're so funny bro, did u even look at the schedule?
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he's just reporting whats going to happen tomorrow obv...
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Korea (South)11579 Posts
WTFFFF Kawaii you were in high school? wtfffffff i thought you were like 20ish.
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So how come none of the EG players, besides IdrA have been playing in these?
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On June 13 2011 16:13 sYz-Adrenaline wrote:
So how come none of the EG players, besides IdrA have been playing in these?
they have, or at least axlav has been.
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On June 13 2011 02:49 KawaiiRice wrote:Uh lizzuma wtf are u doing? We play tomorrow you're so funny bro, did u even look at the schedule?
lololol wtf!!!
Hey if somebody can answer me wich versions of the maps are you guys using ?
Wich Author ????
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
I played in first 2 and lost to agh both times... this one I missed >_<
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On June 14 2011 13:16 iNcontroL wrote:
I played in first 2 and lost to agh both times... this one I missed >_<
gL in the next one then, and the other EG members
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/RK7lr.jpg)
ZLASHER
BRACKET
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
o_o;;
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This tournament has been pretty silly so far. Three things need to happen next time:
1) WCG needs to not give out our emails to everyone next time around
2) They need to email us a day before our matches, so far I have played ZERO matches in this round and will be advancing to the round of 16 because none of my 5 opponents have showed up.
3) There needs to be a more lightweight and efficient way for players to contact one another outside of game.
ro16 here I come...
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On June 15 2011 10:14 HnR)Pride wrote:
This tournament has been pretty silly so far. Three things need to happen next time:
1) WCG needs to not give out our emails to everyone next time around
2) They need to email us a day before our matches, so far I have played ZERO matches in this round and will be advancing to the round of 16 because none of my 5 opponents have showed up.
3) There needs to be a more lightweight and efficient way for players to contact one another outside of game.
ro16 here I come...
yes
yes
meet up at wcgusa channel o_O emails are listed in the match info..
why r u from canada oo
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The entire bracket is posted with match dates and times on it. Why do you need to be emailed every time you have a match?
Did you try to contact those 5 players using pm on the site / email / or bnet?
Most players meet up in the WCGUSA Channel.
And if you are from Canada like your info says - you cant even be playing in these qualifiers
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I honestly didn't know about the channel. I tried adding all of my opponents realID emails and none of them had accepted the request (my email is the one that would show up as being the requester). I have dual citizenship and reside in the USA.
On June 15 2011 10:31 Laurent wrote:
The entire bracket is posted with match dates and times on it. Why do you need to be emailed every time you have a match?
Did you try to contact those 5 players using pm on the site / email / or bnet?
Most players meet up in the WCGUSA Channel.
And if you are from Canada like your info says - you cant even be playing in these qualifiers
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On June 15 2011 10:33 HnR)Pride wrote:I honestly didn't know about the channel. I tried adding all of my opponents realID emails and none of them had accepted the request (my email is the one that would show up as being the requester). I have dual citizenship and reside in the USA. Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 10:31 Laurent wrote:
The entire bracket is posted with match dates and times on it. Why do you need to be emailed every time you have a match?
Did you try to contact those 5 players using pm on the site / email / or bnet?
Most players meet up in the WCGUSA Channel.
And if you are from Canada like your info says - you cant even be playing in these qualifiers
Your real-id email is only viewable to those who are playing you in that round, not everyone in general. But I do agree that WCG needs a more efficient way of running this qualifier.
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It's too hard to keep track of all the tier 2 usa users there's way too many now...fml
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Nope, wrong person. TL AntiHack already looked into this and removed it from OP.
Thanks for your concern though.
<3
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On June 15 2011 18:40 Ero-Sennin wrote:
vG does not hack ;D
:D
Nice job qualifying for top 16 bracket, Sean!
Anyone know when the brackets will be posted?
Dan, I'm sure you know, Luckynewblet.
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Will there be a broadcast of the finals etc? imo a pretty exciting tourny. best in USA is a huge title
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http://stem.esportsea.com/?a=x.schedule&stageid=4145
Brackets are up - Remember this is BO5. Final spot will be filled tonight.
All matches must be played on the day they are scheduled. You cannot reschedule your match for the next day. Make sure to report your scores by midnight or you will both be forfeited.
Whoever makes it to the finals must record replays of all the final matches and upload them to the website.
GL All
Just a reminder - easiest way to find your opponent is to meet in the WCGUSA bnet channel.
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On June 16 2011 01:06 Laurent wrote:http://stem.esportsea.com/?a=x.schedule&stageid=4145Brackets are up - Remember this is BO5. Final spot will be filled tonight. All matches must be played on the day they are scheduled. You cannot reschedule your match for the next day. Make sure to report your scores by midnight or you will both be forfeited. Whoever makes it to the finals must record replays of all the final matches and upload them to the website. GL All Just a reminder - easiest way to find your opponent is to meet in the WCGUSA bnet channel.
It says June 16th on the brackets.. but you said Final spot will be filled tonight? I'm confused.
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If you look at the bracket - there are only 15 players - the 16th spot will be filled tonight after the 2 guys play their match
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On June 16 2011 01:14 Laurent wrote:
If you look at the bracket - there are only 15 players - the 16th spot will be filled tonight after the 2 guys play their match
Oh, I apologize.. I didn't see there was a spot missing. I assumed that the 'final spot' would be the 'winner' of this Ro16.
Thanks for clarifying that.
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On June 16 2011 01:14 Laurent wrote:
If you look at the bracket - there are only 15 players - the 16th spot will be filled tonight after the 2 guys play their match
yeah... that whole post I made last night? Apparently we missed each other like 2 ships in the night. We are playing our game tonight for the 16th spot.
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On June 16 2011 02:01 HnR)Pride wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2011 01:14 Laurent wrote:
If you look at the bracket - there are only 15 players - the 16th spot will be filled tonight after the 2 guys play their match yeah... that whole post I made last night? Apparently we missed each other like 2 ships in the night. We are playing our game tonight for the 16th spot.
gl Pride!
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Rofl ilooks like I may play a kiwi clone
Gl all
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sorry KR only fate could have brought you this zlasher bracket. my laptop battery died the night before our game...lol. got it replaced the day after. go figure
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On June 17 2011 16:24 lizzuma wrote:
sorry KR only fate could have brought you this zlasher bracket. my laptop battery died the night before our game...lol. got it replaced the day after. go figure
i need someone to retire + a bronze and the circle is complete
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On June 17 2011 17:16 KawaiiRice wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 16:24 lizzuma wrote:
sorry KR only fate could have brought you this zlasher bracket. my laptop battery died the night before our game...lol. got it replaced the day after. go figure i need someone to retire + a bronze and the circle is complete
Sucks that I had to watch my daughter while playing our match, but that was the only time I was able to play, lol. I forfeit 3rd game.
gj and gl in the rest of the tournament.
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On June 17 2011 22:48 ODieN wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 17:16 KawaiiRice wrote:On June 17 2011 16:24 lizzuma wrote:
sorry KR only fate could have brought you this zlasher bracket. my laptop battery died the night before our game...lol. got it replaced the day after. go figure i need someone to retire + a bronze and the circle is complete Sucks that I had to watch my daughter while playing our match, but that was the only time I was able to play, lol. I forfeit 3rd game. gj and gl in the rest of the tournament.
my next opp needs to retire for the circle to be complete
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wow kawaii is really working the zlasher magic this quali... LOL
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did they play the finals yet?
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3rd finalist has been decided ! I'm going to keep thread spoiler free till stream though. =p
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Damn, the suspense is killing me D:. I CAN'T WAIT for the games though :D
Edit: Yay KawaiiRice! I wonder how the games went
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Didn't find anything in OP, but is there any way to watch the bracket final?
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I guess they extended the finals to 5 days from now..
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On May 08 2011 20:20 Frozenserpent wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 09:42 Rarak wrote:On May 08 2011 09:20 CosmicHippo wrote:On May 08 2011 07:56 Dexington wrote:On May 07 2011 11:04 State wrote:
3-1 IdrA! I'd say they were ggs, but I'd be lying. He stomped me.
Good luck at WCG! Hey man, you took a game off him. That alone is impressive. well...depends on how he did it...but if it was a stright up macro game then yeah Yes because macro games are the only measure of skill. Next up Gsp has decleared he wont wrestle his oponent, as too many people have accused him of cheesing. It's more impressive because it is generally considered easier to beat Idra with cheese or risky play rather than a straight up macro game. And in addition, having the capability to beat Idra in a straight up macro game means that he must have at least a high level of RTS skill. Having the capability to beat someone with an early game play could still be a result of luck and minimal skill. Tricky play is more like poker. Straight up macro game is more like chess. In chess if you beat someone good you must be good. In poker if you win a hand against a pro you can still have no clue what you're doing.
I watched the game and it was pretty standard play, to me it looked Idra's problem was that he was being himself and thinking "im too awesome to lose" - at one point he suddenly spent a massive amount of money on tech and research rather than uh, you know, BUILDING UNITS, cus Zerg shouldn't do that ever cus Protoss is OP, and it cost him when he had to fight before all that tech could help him out.
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K screw spoilers I'm updating results...wcg stream keeps delaying or something lol, next quali starts tomorrow!
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Awe, I could've swore I signed up.
Oh wells, gl to all players participating!
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When will we know the location / dates of WCG USA?
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The site is a sham. The start time is ???. Where's the organisation here?
I've been bamboozled!
WCG Qualifier #4
Team: Jobless
List: Waiting List
List Position: 299 out of 323
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why aren't Agh and iNcontrol playing in the 2nd round again?
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322 hopefuls and 1 long shot have been counted out! some of Americas best....
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How many players does wcg usa send to the grand finals?
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On June 28 2011 08:02 eqez wrote:
How many players does wcg usa send to the grand finals?
1st and 2nd from the USA National Finals, If i'm not mistaken.
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WCG National Finals should hopefully be announced in the next 2 weeks.
Clicking on the brackets will tell you match times and dates - I don't understand the issue finding the information.
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lol matches start tomorrow not today? WTffff so confused.
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The issue was that an email was sent saying that the 27th was the date of the first match, but the site and brackets say it is the 28th.
and frankly I'm still not sure which date it is but I'm guessing it's the 28th.
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The matches start tomorrow - the email was mistyped
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Group C Round 2 DamnCats vs. Artosis D:, I don't know who I want to cheer for .
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trolled by wcg. email said 27th, apparently brackets say 28th ;x
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On June 28 2011 10:02 Dark.Carnival wrote:
trolled by wcg. email said 27th, apparently brackets say 28th ;x
God you're right... Some annoying stuff right here.
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well regardless of the date i couldn't get a response from my opponent either day. come on KiF1rE bracket time....
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I have such a zlasher bracket I better not f this up....
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Looks like I will be playing EG-LzGaMeR tomorrow unless he loses his match today!
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Lol I like how I got matched with a gold player who didn't show up in time and then sent me a PM asking to reschedule at a time that was not appropriate for me.
On WCG website it says that I got a loss and the support person is not really helping me out at all. -_____________-
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On June 30 2011 10:10 Voltaire wrote:
Looks like I will be playing EG-LzGaMeR tomorrow unless he loses his match today!
Well.. Then you would face the person who beat LzGamer, which would mean an even stronger opponent?
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It says you got a loss because you probably never bothered to report the score?
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Krelason reported a 2-0 win over me before even 9pm... wtf son msg me on bnet I sent you my friend code!
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On June 30 2011 10:10 Voltaire wrote:
Looks like I will be playing EG-LzGaMeR tomorrow unless he loses his match today!
im online! where you at? EGLzGaMeR.327 msg me yo or come in the wcg channel~
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So... im online the entire time Voltaire and you take a Walk.over? ? ? ? Really??? You know the channel is WCGUSA on b.net right?
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Lucky - yours has been fixed
LZ - yours has been cleared
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Who won the KawaiiRice vs CheckSixBoo match? NVM I saw from the spoiler tags implicitly who won.
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iNcontroL
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sent friends request to whiplash.. no response all day >_< If you get this whiplash msg me on bnet plz!!
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http://us.wcg.com/?page=topic&id=145908
I'm getting owned by a guy who reports every w.o at exactly 8:15eastern time (an hour too early to boot)
He's not even attempting to play matches or show in the channel either. I opened a support ticket and had the w.o reversed last night and now he's reported over me again without trying to play me before the matches tonight and he's also already reported over the other guy.
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On July 02 2011 10:05 LuckyFool wrote:http://us.wcg.com/?page=topic&id=145908I'm getting owned by a guy who reports every w.o at exactly 8:15eastern time (an hour too early to boot) He's not even attempting to play matches or show in the channel either. I opened a support ticket and had the w.o reversed last night and now he's reported over me again without trying to play me before the matches tonight and he's also already reported over the other guy.
LOL what a tool. Please tell me :
1) you got the win?
2) he won't be allowed in future qualifiers.
lol
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On July 02 2011 10:05 LuckyFool wrote:http://us.wcg.com/?page=topic&id=145908I'm getting owned by a guy who reports every w.o at exactly 8:15eastern time (an hour too early to boot) He's not even attempting to play matches or show in the channel either. I opened a support ticket and had the w.o reversed last night and now he's reported over me again without trying to play me before the matches tonight and he's also already reported over the other guy.
lol i saw that wcg website.... what a joke son lol he must be scared to play luckyfou son
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It's all taken care of thanks to the ppl who defended me in the thread on wcg site lol!
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Hey Agh, is there any way we can play our match sooner or later then the set time? Pretty please
Im EGLzGaMeR.327 on b.net ~
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iNcontroL
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what do we do if our opponent doesn't exist cause BOTH the guys the day before didn't play? lol
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On July 03 2011 05:30 iNcontroL wrote:
what do we do if our opponent doesn't exist cause BOTH the guys the day before didn't play? lol
higher seed auto advances after 24 hours afaik
after that you can just take a ffw or w/e
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GOGO LZZZZZZZZ!!!
and Geoff + ViBE!
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Similar situation to LuckyFool here for my ro32 match.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=MayanSc2 was supposed toplay me last night @ regularily scheduled time. I added his RealID (never accepted), was in channel and his bnet character code was invalid. I messaged him twice on WCG site to see if we could resched (had a party to go to last night) and on TL.net. He never tried to contact me, wasn't in channel and never accepted my RealID request so I waited around for him instead of heading to the party.
I reported the w.o at 8:15 and left for my party. When I got back the result had been changed to him over me... I have a ticket submitted but it hasn't been addressed yet. If anyone knows MayanWarrior or whatever he goes by now, I would still not mind playing if he can manage to get online and not just report me as being not there.
Sucks because I tried so many ways and times to get ahold of him and I end up having to do all this work to get a fair shake.
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You actually reported a FF win for yourself at 8:10
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iNcontroL
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On July 04 2011 05:38 iNcontroL wrote:
when is final 16 or w/e?
Listed as tuesday.
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iNcontroL
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fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuckkkkkkkkkk alrighty
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GL incontrol, got to win it this time
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I also tried to contact you so many ways HNR sent you numerous request and none got accepted o took screen shorts at start time and end times. I submitted the ticket to fix beccause i was online.
WCG really needs to fix the way matches are played or some kind of channel everyone is suppose to meet in. It's really a pain in A$$ trying to find oppts and the wcg site has false information than trying to get a hold of an admin is so tough. People reporting false results like crazy !!! it's annoying and a waste of a time. Wasted my whole 4th of july weekend because i had to play my match against HNR that resulted in a 15min 2-0. hopefully finals bracket goes a lot smoother. because i can't keep doing this all week!
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On July 04 2011 11:35 MayanSc2 wrote:
I also tried to contact you so many ways HNR sent you numerous request and none got accepted o took screen shorts at start time and end times. I submitted the ticket to fix beccause i was online.
WCG really needs to fix the way matches are played or some kind of channel everyone is suppose to meet in. It's really a pain in A$$ trying to find oppts and the wcg site has false information than trying to get a hold of an admin is so tough. People reporting false results like crazy !!! it's annoying and a waste of a time. Wasted my whole 4th of july weekend because i had to play my match against HNR that resulted in a 15min 2-0. hopefully finals bracket goes a lot smoother. because i can't keep doing this all week!
WCG meets up in channel wcgusa
The only issues I feel are false reporting, lack of an admin at the channel, the lack of char code viewing on the site (because some people have full friend lists and don't get friend requests) and frankly, a lot of people don't or can't read the stuff wcg gives. All the schedules and times are on the brackets, and there's a specified channel.
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Not having char codes on the site should be fixed. It would make it a lot easier getting in contact with someone if they never read/check the wcg site.
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agreed char code would be best. Would make it easier to report if player was really online or not with screen shots. Just something should be done.
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Meeting in the channel - taking a screen shot in there - whats so hard about that?
Obviously you guys didn't try hard enough to contact each other because miraculously when we forced you to play the match, you made contact and played.
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i was and i did take screen shots. I had 4 different screen shots sent them in with the support ticket but that still wasn't good enough. Admin said we still had to play our match....
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You both had screen shots showing the same thing - who are we to believe?
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I know what I believe, guys that report wins with screenshots instead of replays are shady characters.
top 16 bracket is filled out btw in case anyone didn't realize. matches are tomorrow night (tuesday)
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iNcontroL
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going to play my match tonight but let my opponent advance even if I win... I thought entire 16 were played out in 1 day.
I have NASL finals tomorrow and onward.. can't play my games out. Damn!
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On July 06 2011 01:04 iNcontroL wrote:going to play my match tonight but let my opponent advance even if I win... I thought entire 16 were played out in 1 day. I have NASL finals tomorrow and onward.. can't play my games out. Damn!
: (. Best of luck next year D:
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On July 06 2011 01:04 iNcontroL wrote:going to play my match tonight but let my opponent advance even if I win... I thought entire 16 were played out in 1 day. I have NASL finals tomorrow and onward.. can't play my games out. Damn!
Ouch that sucks :s . Can't wait to see u play when you'll have time to dedicate yourselft 100% to playing the game.
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iNcontroL
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On July 06 2011 03:07 TheSubtleArt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2011 01:04 iNcontroL wrote:going to play my match tonight but let my opponent advance even if I win... I thought entire 16 were played out in 1 day. I have NASL finals tomorrow and onward.. can't play my games out. Damn! : (. Best of luck next year D:
There are like 4 more qualifiers O_O I will play in all of em!
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yeah qualis take a full 2 weeks each now because of this top 16 bracket. not like bw online qualis where you played the last bit all at once.
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artosis can you tell vibe to get in touch with me -.-
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final four prediction!
qxc
lz
owmygroin (total guess, dont really know either of these guys that well)
vibe
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On July 07 2011 04:32 Alejandrisha wrote:
artosis can you tell vibe to get in touch with me -.-
sucks he waited till 9:15 to tell you he couldn't make it and you both couldn't work out a time
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are those matches streamed?
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only the finals are actually streamed unless a player livestreams their matches (which happened often for the bw qualis)
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lz 3-0 qxc ??? I was hoping for an lz victory obv but srsly?!>?!?>!>!
gogogogo !!! :D
after the finals of this one we'll be halfway done with qualifiers for sc2 2011 wcg usa! with 2 zergs a protoss and a terran qualified so far!
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LuckyFool, I've tried to reach Laurent through PM but he doesn't answer me. We've signed HuK up for two of the open events, but he's on the "waiting list". Anything we can do about that?
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Congrats to vibe for getting a spot in WCG
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On July 11 2011 18:44 Bumblebee wrote:
LuckyFool, I've tried to reach Laurent through PM but he doesn't answer me. We've signed HuK up for two of the open events, but he's on the "waiting list". Anything we can do about that?
No idea...Laurent should respond at some point either to the pm or a response in this thread.
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Huk cant participate in the USA qualifier he has to play in the Canadian qualifier. A player can only participate in the country he has citizen under.
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On July 16 2011 05:02 MayanSc2 wrote:
Huk cant participate in the USA qualifier he has to play in the Canadian qualifier. A player can only participate in the country he has citizen under.
i'm almost certain that he was born in US and is therefore an american citizen. correct me if im wrong tho
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On July 16 2011 05:02 MayanSc2 wrote:
Huk cant participate in the USA qualifier he has to play in the Canadian qualifier. A player can only participate in the country he has citizen under.
Pretty sure Huk has dual-citizenship.
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Oh, ok. Did not know that thought he was Canadian.
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HuK'in it up!
btw EG spoiled the results of this qualifier on their website -- might as well update the OP
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It says that im registered for this qualifier, but i've gone through all 4 brackets and can't find my match anymore o.o
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On July 19 2011 10:16 RaNgeD wrote:
It says that im registered for this qualifier, but i've gone through all 4 brackets and can't find my match anymore o.o
this is my problem aswell... some admin needs to help I SIGNED UP FOR THIS! why was i not added to the brackets....
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Whoa its ranged! Welcome back from Romania :D
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Huk was born in USA and moved to Canada at like age 16 I think? So he can play.
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Oh wow congrats to Vibe for qualifying! He's seemed very strong recently, but been relatively unnoticed. Hopefully he can do well.
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On July 20 2011 10:46 Lz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 10:16 RaNgeD wrote:
It says that im registered for this qualifier, but i've gone through all 4 brackets and can't find my match anymore o.o this is my problem aswell... some admin needs to help I SIGNED UP FOR THIS! why was i not added to the brackets....
Have you guys checked to see if you are on the waiting list? Just because you guys signed up dosen't mean there is room for you. That is my case I am on the waiting list... so I dont get to play
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On July 20 2011 10:47 LuckyFool wrote:
Whoa its ranged! Welcome back from Romania :D
Thanks (:
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On July 20 2011 10:46 Lz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 10:16 RaNgeD wrote:
It says that im registered for this qualifier, but i've gone through all 4 brackets and can't find my match anymore o.o this is my problem aswell... some admin needs to help I SIGNED UP FOR THIS! why was i not added to the brackets....
I guess there is no room for 2 previous WCG finalists
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On July 20 2011 15:01 RaNgeD wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 10:46 Lz wrote:On July 19 2011 10:16 RaNgeD wrote:
It says that im registered for this qualifier, but i've gone through all 4 brackets and can't find my match anymore o.o this is my problem aswell... some admin needs to help I SIGNED UP FOR THIS! why was i not added to the brackets.... I guess there is no room for 2 previous WCG finalists
dey b hatin'
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On July 20 2011 12:04 mpf189 wrote:
Huk was born in USA and moved to Canada at like age 16 I think? So he can play.
Yeah, he's a dual citizen, per one of his interviews. So he can play USA qualifier.
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well I like how last night beat my opponent 2-0, it shows me as blade 2-0 no micro, i'm supposed to face huk. All of a sudden the results changed and now nomicro is reported 2-0 over me and now huk doesn't know what to do... Why the fuck did it change randomly -_-.
Edit: Turns out sense we played a few hours later WCG gave me the walkover, but he did a support ticket, beat him 2-0 anyway so wcg instead of waiting for us to put results just gave him the walk over. pain in the ass xD.
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hey agh if you see this please add me on bnet and we can play tonight, my aka is nrgluckyfool.531
the guy shows he advanced over me in the bracket but he's not trying to play games he's just reporting w.o's.
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will the ro16 be done before MLG? ;x
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Nope. This kinda sucks ...
lThe ro4 is scheduled to happen Thursday (while most people will be traveling) and Finals on Sunday exactly during the finals of MLG... O_o
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hmm hopefully they let people do it after MLG seeing as top4 most likely will all be there
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I thought HuK was Canadian can someone enlighten me on why he's playing, is it a fake huk or something?
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On July 25 2011 07:13 Hawk2 wrote:
I thought HuK was Canadian can someone enlighten me on why he's playing, is it a fake huk or something?
On July 20 2011 15:56 Taf the Ghost wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 12:04 mpf189 wrote:
Huk was born in USA and moved to Canada at like age 16 I think? So he can play. Yeah, he's a dual citizen, per one of his interviews. So he can play USA qualifier.
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Hello,
I've been trying to contact Laurent, the WCG US administrator, for about 4 days now regarding the next match in the current qualifier (no. 5). According to the website - though it hasn't been updated since the last matches were played a few days ago - there's going to be a scheduling snafu regarding my players (Liquid`HuK) next match on Tuesday the 26th at 8pm CDT.*
The reason HuK is not able to play at this hour is because he's on a plane heading for Los Angeles to play the last set of these matches from American soil and attend MLG.
Laurent or any other administrator, if you see this, can you please write to me so we can get this sorted out as soon as possible. I believe it's in both of our interests to get this match played, but you haven't responded to any of my messages whether it has been in the night, day, noon, afternoon or late evening for you.
I hope to hear from you soon, so we can get this match rescheduled.
*Source: http://us.wcg.com/?page=stem_schedule&stageid=4203
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On July 25 2011 20:16 Bumblebee wrote:Hello, I've been trying to contact Laurent, the WCG US administrator, for about 4 days now regarding the next match in the current qualifier (no. 5). According to the website - though it hasn't been updated since the last matches were played a few days ago - there's going to be a scheduling snafu regarding my players (Liquid`HuK) next match on Tuesday the 26th at 8pm CDT.* The reason HuK is not able to play at this hour is because he's on a plane heading for Los Angeles to play the last set of these matches from American soil and attend MLG. Laurent or any other administrator, if you see this, can you please write to me so we can get this sorted out as soon as possible. I believe it's in both of our interests to get this match played, but you haven't responded to any of my messages whether it has been in the night, day, noon, afternoon or late evening for you. I hope to hear from you soon, so we can get this match rescheduled. *Source: http://us.wcg.com/?page=stem_schedule&stageid=4203
WCG please?
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On July 25 2011 20:16 Bumblebee wrote:Hello, I've been trying to contact Laurent, the WCG US administrator, for about 4 days now regarding the next match in the current qualifier (no. 5). According to the website - though it hasn't been updated since the last matches were played a few days ago - there's going to be a scheduling snafu regarding my players (Liquid`HuK) next match on Tuesday the 26th at 8pm CDT.* The reason HuK is not able to play at this hour is because he's on a plane heading for Los Angeles to play the last set of these matches from American soil and attend MLG. Laurent or any other administrator, if you see this, can you please write to me so we can get this sorted out as soon as possible. I believe it's in both of our interests to get this match played, but you haven't responded to any of my messages whether it has been in the night, day, noon, afternoon or late evening for you. I hope to hear from you soon, so we can get this match rescheduled. *Source: http://us.wcg.com/?page=stem_schedule&stageid=4203
Yeah do your job wcg people for real get it together kthxbai.
Boycott WCG if this isn't resolved!
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On July 25 2011 20:16 Bumblebee wrote:Hello, I've been trying to contact Laurent, the WCG US administrator, for about 4 days now regarding the next match in the current qualifier (no. 5). According to the website - though it hasn't been updated since the last matches were played a few days ago - there's going to be a scheduling snafu regarding my players (Liquid`HuK) next match on Tuesday the 26th at 8pm CDT.* The reason HuK is not able to play at this hour is because he's on a plane heading for Los Angeles to play the last set of these matches from American soil and attend MLG. Laurent or any other administrator, if you see this, can you please write to me so we can get this sorted out as soon as possible. I believe it's in both of our interests to get this match played, but you haven't responded to any of my messages whether it has been in the night, day, noon, afternoon or late evening for you. I hope to hear from you soon, so we can get this match rescheduled. *Source: http://us.wcg.com/?page=stem_schedule&stageid=4203
That's such a fucking joke. Not being able to get in touch with an administrator for 4 days? I know your purpose isn't to get us (the community) whining on WGC, but come on? Seriously?
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On July 25 2011 20:34 Tryxtira wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 20:16 Bumblebee wrote:Hello, I've been trying to contact Laurent, the WCG US administrator, for about 4 days now regarding the next match in the current qualifier (no. 5). According to the website - though it hasn't been updated since the last matches were played a few days ago - there's going to be a scheduling snafu regarding my players (Liquid`HuK) next match on Tuesday the 26th at 8pm CDT.* The reason HuK is not able to play at this hour is because he's on a plane heading for Los Angeles to play the last set of these matches from American soil and attend MLG. Laurent or any other administrator, if you see this, can you please write to me so we can get this sorted out as soon as possible. I believe it's in both of our interests to get this match played, but you haven't responded to any of my messages whether it has been in the night, day, noon, afternoon or late evening for you. I hope to hear from you soon, so we can get this match rescheduled. *Source: http://us.wcg.com/?page=stem_schedule&stageid=4203 That's such a fucking joke. Not being able to get in touch with an administrator for 4 days? I know your purpose isn't to get us (the community) whining on WGC, but come on? Seriously?
I'm not sure who's side your on, but yes, it's definitely not the purpose to get everybody to hate on WCG, but an act of hope to get this resolved. The match is within 36 hours and it has to be played prior to the originally scheduled time for the bracket to work accordingly with everybody else. And this is one big, important tournament for a professional StarCraft 2 player.
I hope you understand and apologies if anybody thinks we're trying to bash WCG.
Edit: Also note this tournament takes place over a 2 week timespan and games are played on back to back days, so I think 4 days of unavailability is a lot.
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What the hell, WCG? I hope this gets resolved quickly. I would hate to see HuK suffer from this.
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It would be terrible for both parties if this was not resolved. Hope it works out.
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Sadly this is what ESEA and ESS is all about and known for. They pride themselves in paying their admins, however at the end of the day they really don't get the job done. Contacting league admins in ESEA is the same hassle. I'm not surprised you have run into this problem with WCG.
Best of luck and hopefully WCG will notice this. I will RT HuK's post.
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On July 25 2011 20:42 Bumblebee wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 20:34 Tryxtira wrote:On July 25 2011 20:16 Bumblebee wrote:Hello, I've been trying to contact Laurent, the WCG US administrator, for about 4 days now regarding the next match in the current qualifier (no. 5). According to the website - though it hasn't been updated since the last matches were played a few days ago - there's going to be a scheduling snafu regarding my players (Liquid`HuK) next match on Tuesday the 26th at 8pm CDT.* The reason HuK is not able to play at this hour is because he's on a plane heading for Los Angeles to play the last set of these matches from American soil and attend MLG. Laurent or any other administrator, if you see this, can you please write to me so we can get this sorted out as soon as possible. I believe it's in both of our interests to get this match played, but you haven't responded to any of my messages whether it has been in the night, day, noon, afternoon or late evening for you. I hope to hear from you soon, so we can get this match rescheduled. *Source: http://us.wcg.com/?page=stem_schedule&stageid=4203 That's such a fucking joke. Not being able to get in touch with an administrator for 4 days? I know your purpose isn't to get us (the community) whining on WGC, but come on? Seriously? I'm not sure who's side your on, but yes, it's definitely not the purpose to get everybody to hate on WCG, but an act of hope to get this resolved. The match is within 36 hours and it has to be played prior to the originally scheduled time for the bracket to work accordingly with everybody else. And this is one big, important tournament for a professional StarCraft 2 player. I hope you understand and apologies if anybody thinks we're trying to bash WCG. Edit: Also note this tournament takes place over a 2 week timespan and games are played on back to back days, so I think 4 days of unavailability is a lot.
Are you on liquid? Don't recognize the name... See the icon.
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On July 25 2011 21:34 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 20:42 Bumblebee wrote:On July 25 2011 20:34 Tryxtira wrote:On July 25 2011 20:16 Bumblebee wrote:Hello, I've been trying to contact Laurent, the WCG US administrator, for about 4 days now regarding the next match in the current qualifier (no. 5). According to the website - though it hasn't been updated since the last matches were played a few days ago - there's going to be a scheduling snafu regarding my players (Liquid`HuK) next match on Tuesday the 26th at 8pm CDT.* The reason HuK is not able to play at this hour is because he's on a plane heading for Los Angeles to play the last set of these matches from American soil and attend MLG. Laurent or any other administrator, if you see this, can you please write to me so we can get this sorted out as soon as possible. I believe it's in both of our interests to get this match played, but you haven't responded to any of my messages whether it has been in the night, day, noon, afternoon or late evening for you. I hope to hear from you soon, so we can get this match rescheduled. *Source: http://us.wcg.com/?page=stem_schedule&stageid=4203 That's such a fucking joke. Not being able to get in touch with an administrator for 4 days? I know your purpose isn't to get us (the community) whining on WGC, but come on? Seriously? I'm not sure who's side your on, but yes, it's definitely not the purpose to get everybody to hate on WCG, but an act of hope to get this resolved. The match is within 36 hours and it has to be played prior to the originally scheduled time for the bracket to work accordingly with everybody else. And this is one big, important tournament for a professional StarCraft 2 player. I hope you understand and apologies if anybody thinks we're trying to bash WCG. Edit: Also note this tournament takes place over a 2 week timespan and games are played on back to back days, so I think 4 days of unavailability is a lot. Are you on liquid? Don't recognize the name... See the icon.
Appears to be management for the team.
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On July 25 2011 21:34 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 20:42 Bumblebee wrote:On July 25 2011 20:34 Tryxtira wrote:On July 25 2011 20:16 Bumblebee wrote:Hello, I've been trying to contact Laurent, the WCG US administrator, for about 4 days now regarding the next match in the current qualifier (no. 5). According to the website - though it hasn't been updated since the last matches were played a few days ago - there's going to be a scheduling snafu regarding my players (Liquid`HuK) next match on Tuesday the 26th at 8pm CDT.* The reason HuK is not able to play at this hour is because he's on a plane heading for Los Angeles to play the last set of these matches from American soil and attend MLG. Laurent or any other administrator, if you see this, can you please write to me so we can get this sorted out as soon as possible. I believe it's in both of our interests to get this match played, but you haven't responded to any of my messages whether it has been in the night, day, noon, afternoon or late evening for you. I hope to hear from you soon, so we can get this match rescheduled. *Source: http://us.wcg.com/?page=stem_schedule&stageid=4203 That's such a fucking joke. Not being able to get in touch with an administrator for 4 days? I know your purpose isn't to get us (the community) whining on WGC, but come on? Seriously? I'm not sure who's side your on, but yes, it's definitely not the purpose to get everybody to hate on WCG, but an act of hope to get this resolved. The match is within 36 hours and it has to be played prior to the originally scheduled time for the bracket to work accordingly with everybody else. And this is one big, important tournament for a professional StarCraft 2 player. I hope you understand and apologies if anybody thinks we're trying to bash WCG. Edit: Also note this tournament takes place over a 2 week timespan and games are played on back to back days, so I think 4 days of unavailability is a lot. Are you on liquid? Don't recognize the name... See the icon.
Bumblebee is a manager for team liquid.
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On July 25 2011 21:34 GreEny K wrote:
Are you on liquid? Don't recognize the name... See the icon.
Robin (Bumblebee) is on the Liquid staff and handles our player management.
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rt'ed huks tweet, this is some serious bs! huk is only the best north american player... i mean.. yea.. thats all lol.. come on wcg get your shit together
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yea wtf wcg get with it yo
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Bumblebee i sent you a PM. I will make sure he knows about it.
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Wow... with all the WCG Bashing :>
Thanks to Soulcrusher - you're correct.
I am the primary Admin for Qualifier #5 for SC2, not Laurent... I'm not sure how you've been trying to contact him, and I apologize that you didn't hear back, but that is not how you need to request support. Saw on twitter this morning, and then saw the ticket. We'll get this handled.
In the future, just use the support ticket system, that way the appropriate admin gets notified, Thanks <3
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Yes, it's done and thanks for the clarification. I've also explained you the situation in the ticket.
Thanks WCG. ;-)
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Also sidenote - Cruising through this thread I've noticed the theme of character codes being added to the registration material... that would help facilitate communication to those with maxed friends lists. I'll forward that on to the backend wizards. Thanks for the suggestions.
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Zephyr playing Huk in round of 16, I didn't know Zephyr was still active.
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I think Zephyr is playing a bit whenever he feels like it. He's not on the roster as an active player or anything. :-) And I guess one of many progamers dreams are to go to WCG, so why not try out ^_^
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Guys, I travel to go to events alot, there are other admins to back me up when im not around.
File support tickets if you need help, thats the best way.
On that note - I will be at MLG Anaheim
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WCG website not working for anyone else? It's redirecting me to a CS clan's website.
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LiquidHuK you play me next for our match, I'm vileHawk.429
On a side note is anyone else getting softcore pornography when they try to connect to the WCG site?
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yeah i think the us wcg site is hacked or something?
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Elite Pimps (some CS team site? wtf LOL)
gg no re
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So how long do I have to wait for the website to come back up to avoid risking a forfeit loss? I couldn't get my next opponent's information from the website before it crashed and he's not in the B.net channel.
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As much fun as that website incident was... resolved.
Also, YourAd, you take 15 minutes, just get some screen shots.
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On July 28 2011 11:36 YourAdHere wrote:
So how long do I have to wait for the website to come back up to avoid risking a forfeit loss? I couldn't get my next opponent's information from the website before it crashed and he's not in the B.net channel.
Why would he report a forfeit win? That's stupid. Neither could get eachother's email addresses because the site was down.
You were supposed to play me. Any chance we can play before thursday night?
Edit: Saw you reported a forfeit win... Would still like to play as I think that's pretty lame to happen when we're in top 8. Any chance we can play our match before the next? An admin can change it if needed.
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On July 28 2011 14:58 holynorth wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2011 11:36 YourAdHere wrote:
So how long do I have to wait for the website to come back up to avoid risking a forfeit loss? I couldn't get my next opponent's information from the website before it crashed and he's not in the B.net channel. Why would he report a forfeit win? That's stupid. Neither could get eachother's email addresses because the site was down. You were supposed to play me. Any chance we can play before thursday night? Edit: Saw you reported a forfeit win... Would still like to play as I think that's pretty lame to happen when we're in top 8. Any chance we can play our match before the next? An admin can change it if needed.
my god thats kinda bad.... posting here about not being able to get on the website to find his opponent or email then the moment he can he goes for a forfeit win... lol
Hope you guys get to play..
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The website came back up and I waited until 11:20 to report the forfeit win (50 minutes after the match time when I only needed 15 minutes). But I don't have a problem with playing it rescheduled today.
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Updated OP, sorry guys, MLG weekend distracted me from taking care of this. ^_^
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Is HuK and gix played out yet?
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How many players ultimately go to WCG? 1? 2?
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USA will probably send 2 ?
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ugh had to travel to MLG during WCG semis. Not likely that I would have beaten HuK but forfeiting that far in is certainly not ideal. WCG and GeForce need to pay attention to current SC2 events!
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Robb!! update op ))
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Updated!!!
One more open quali then the mysterious last chance qualis start, who's qualified for last chance qualis ? Nobody knows.
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On August 07 2011 03:52 LuckyFool wrote:
Updated!!!
One more open quali then the mysterious last chance qualis start, who's qualified for last chance qualis ? Nobody knows.
It's about as transparent as who gets invited to Blizzcon qualifiers
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where are the brackets? .___.
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afaik, he offraced in the final
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On August 09 2011 03:39 Xeris wrote:
afaik, he offraced in the final
why?
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why huk is playing in usa qualifiers?
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On August 09 2011 04:20 EtohEtoh wrote:why?
this.
why would he do that!?
is he gonna be able to qualify now ?
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On August 09 2011 03:39 Xeris wrote:
afaik, he offraced in the final
Ummm....wtf? Maybe gix is a protoss and huk didn't want to mirror match with Korea-NA latency, sorry not familiar with gix.
On August 09 2011 04:25 Welmu wrote:
why huk is playing in usa qualifiers?
Holds dual citizenship.....
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Lmao, I guess he didn't wanted to play WCG? Statement from Liquid or HuK anyone?
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man i forgot my password to wcg but they never email the new password so i can reset it. I've also tried to register with 2 other email addresses but no activation emails T_T , why does wcg suck so badly for everything.
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is this gonna start today? ;o
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no brackets posted or anything
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No email or bracket links that I can find. I believe the schedule has this quali starting today but it might have gotten changed.
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HuK didn't offrace in the finals. Although there was some hardware problems at the PCBang in Anaheim, but that's no excuse though. GiX just did well.
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OK hopefully they come up tomorrow. I'm out!
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So we got IdrA....hope he shows good results for usa.
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So Gix beat HuK 3-0 in straight up games?Oo How is that even possible(no disrespect to Gix, I know he is pretty good)? Replays anyone?
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the final score was + Show Spoiler +
it was one of the most intense matches i've ever played. I wish somebody would cast them
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giX do you have replays? I would love to see those games?
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......why the hell aren't there any brackets yet? nobody is questioning that?
wcg fail .___.
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It's possible the schedule has changed, does the wcg site still say this quali starts on 8/8 ? (I'm on my phone too scared to try to check nightmare wcg site on phone)
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brackets were posted on the night of the 8th - did you even check the website?
the qualifier was pushed back 2 days because of some technical issues
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Why is wcg so fucked up. I can't even log in, or recieve emails that they are supposedly sending
Also rocker, thanks for being a dick (again) and reporting a win already. The email even said that we could have a day to re schedule.
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Dangit, I forgot my WCG match . . . Did Syringe report a w.o. over me? Syringe, if you are a kind soul and read TL, could we maybe play our match? :/
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iNcontroL
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haha
I've been in the channel for 20 minutes and my opponent reported the w/o before w/o time even hit lol... sigh.
This is why it sucks playing random dudes in tourneys like this. No email, no bnet add, he isn't in the channel.. and is trying to sneak a win vs me lol.
I opened a support ticket but I thought I'd make it public here for safety.
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Well, if you have to push it back to Saturday, that's fine, I can play 2 matches on Sunday if I have to... no big deal for me.
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On August 13 2011 10:30 iNcontroL wrote:
haha
I've been in the channel for 20 minutes and my opponent reported the w/o before w/o time even hit lol... sigh.
This is why it sucks playing random dudes in tourneys like this. No email, no bnet add, he isn't in the channel.. and is trying to sneak a win vs me lol.
I opened a support ticket but I thought I'd make it public here for safety.
Were you in channel 'WCG' There was a guy named 'Valkyrie' that said (around 8:15 cst) "Mr. Robinson isn't here "
This happens virtually every round for me. I'm a random and they won't even play me. They report the forfeit win, i google around till I find their character code from some random z33k tournament and then add them. Then they finally agree to play them. WCG support can take awhile sometimes.
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to whoever I play if you see this go ahead and take the w.o if u havent already I cant play this week thx.
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On August 13 2011 10:30 iNcontroL wrote:
haha
I've been in the channel for 20 minutes and my opponent reported the w/o before w/o time even hit lol... sigh.
This is why it sucks playing random dudes in tourneys like this. No email, no bnet add, he isn't in the channel.. and is trying to sneak a win vs me lol.
I opened a support ticket but I thought I'd make it public here for safety.
I done seen it with my own eyes. Inc was asking for him and he wasnt in channel and reported a win. Pretty lame. -_-
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On August 13 2011 12:21 LightWireEX wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2011 10:30 iNcontroL wrote:
haha
I've been in the channel for 20 minutes and my opponent reported the w/o before w/o time even hit lol... sigh.
This is why it sucks playing random dudes in tourneys like this. No email, no bnet add, he isn't in the channel.. and is trying to sneak a win vs me lol.
I opened a support ticket but I thought I'd make it public here for safety. I done seen it with my own eyes. Inc was asking for him and he wasnt in channel and reported a win. Pretty lame. -_-
To be fair, I was in the channel 'WCG' at 8:00pm cst with 'Valkyrie' and 'ColTriMaster' and Valkyrie was asking for Incontrol. I did not stay the full fifteen minutes so I can not vouch after that.
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On August 13 2011 12:24 holynorth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2011 12:21 LightWireEX wrote:On August 13 2011 10:30 iNcontroL wrote:
haha
I've been in the channel for 20 minutes and my opponent reported the w/o before w/o time even hit lol... sigh.
This is why it sucks playing random dudes in tourneys like this. No email, no bnet add, he isn't in the channel.. and is trying to sneak a win vs me lol.
I opened a support ticket but I thought I'd make it public here for safety. I done seen it with my own eyes. Inc was asking for him and he wasnt in channel and reported a win. Pretty lame. -_- To be fair, I was in the channel 'WCG' at 8:00pm cst with 'Valkyrie' and 'ColTriMaster' and Valkyrie was asking for Incontrol. I did not stay the full fifteen minutes so I can not vouch after that.
o_O perhaps im getting my time zones mixed up, but i dont remember trimaster being in there at all. but dont mind me. im a bit crazy.
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I was a few minutes late for sure.. but no more than 10. He also never emailed, added or tried to contact at all.
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sounds like bad luck to me, neither of your guys' fault, i blame wcg for not adding character codes to the site. -_- people just ignore the real id request and report a no show for you. i had to friggin add some guys AIM account from the site just for him to confirm he wasn't gonna play too. pretty ridiculous.
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On August 13 2011 12:29 iNcontroL wrote:
I was a few minutes late for sure.. but no more than 10. He also never emailed, added or tried to contact at all.
I would assume not. That's why I said I couldn't vouch after initial game start. Just wanted to give the guy a fair chance. It sounds like he got on at eight, saw you weren't on, and reported the win.
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I'm sure they'll be willing to sort it out through support ticket, they'll make him play, and I'm willing to wait another day if you need it, so it should get done
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I'm reporting in right here in the thread for NerO, I'm going to be here all day and I will 100% be on time, in the channel, waiting. I'm using this as a reference in case he doesn't show/reports me not being here since he hasn't accepted my real id yet. (of course he could just be busy, if so no problem! :D) I don't want any shenanigans though. ><
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I msged my opponent all day today "vileIllusion" and asked him if we could play sooner or later then the set time.. since I have a Real Life event I must attend.. I hope you read this and know I will be on all night tonight or day tomorrow to make up our match! (plz don't just take the w.o)
Thank You
-LzGaMeR
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On August 14 2011 06:48 Lz wrote:
I msged my opponent all day today "vileIllusion" and asked him if we could play sooner or later then the set time.. since I have a Real Life event I must attend.. I hope you read this and know I will be on all night tonight or day tomorrow to make up our match! (plz don't just take the w.o)
Thank You
-LzGaMeR
We settled our times so our match times are no problem anymore thanks
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On August 14 2011 06:57 TheRealFluid wrote:
What? Huk lost again???
probably couldn't fit the time in to play this quali during na invitational stuff and travel.
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I fell asleep and missed my match T_T damn school, damn it to hell
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anyone know the results between artosis and espdarkend?
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iNcontroL
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ok this is fucking bad
Maybe I was just lucky but I never had this scam where people don't even show up and just report w/o win.. but now had it happen 2 of 3 rounds in a row.
Sojourner is a joke. I have been sitting in the channel for 20 minutes from the very start and he NEVER came into the channel. I go to report the win and he ALREADY HAS wtf?
I will make a support ticket but PLEASE punish this shit.
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On August 15 2011 10:18 iNcontroL wrote:
ok this is fucking bad
Maybe I was just lucky but I never had this scam where people don't even show up and just report w/o win.. but now had it happen 2 of 3 rounds in a row.
Sojourner is a joke. I have been sitting in the channel for 20 minutes from the very start and he NEVER came into the channel. I go to report the win and he ALREADY HAS wtf?
I will make a support ticket but PLEASE punish this shit.
People have been trying that for a while now.. guy named NerO did that to me, asked to reschedule twice in the same day, doesn't show up the next day while already talking to the next opponent about a reschedule. What makes it worse is he acted like he DIDN'T talk to the next game opponent and had no idea.
i just support ticketed him(took a while) and now I shall see you mr. incontrol in the top 16!
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Yeah there are a number of trollers this year who are consistently doing that. Make 0 effort to try to play the game, dont show up dont post and yet report the w.o...
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cant see, just post screenshot or paste maps/times?
edit: guy posted above same second
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iNcontroL
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I hope I am not left out while a dude who is trying to scam a win against me advances o-O
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So many problems, hope Geoff gets in!
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btw any dates or anyuthing set for WCG USA finals?
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thats some pretty fucked up shit going on...
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Final four of this quali,
vileillusion vs agh
qxc vs checksixboo/dominick
who is dominick ? O_o
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xeris pls run wcg canada for us ^.^
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On August 16 2011 02:10 iNcontroL wrote:
I hope I am not left out while a dude who is trying to scam a win against me advances o-O
well thats gay. hope everything works out
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Just a quick update on a result from yesterday, Boo defeated Dominick so it'll be qxc vs boo in semis. I would expect the winner of that to take the qual.
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On August 19 2011 23:44 LuckyFool wrote:Just a quick update on a result from yesterday, Boo defeated Dominick so it'll be qxc vs boo in semis. I would expect the winner of that to take the qual.
Agh is in the upper half, he's got a shot
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BTW , it's already mid august... when will we know the location , date, etc of the WCG USA finals?
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Finals of the last open quali are happening tonight! FXOqxc vs QXGAgh
I'm going to post results here as soon as I know them.
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can someone send me a PM w/ who won?
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I don't know the result because the wcg site isnt updated and agh wont tell me. and I don't know if they stream finals anymore.
So yeah...
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Any update on the last chance stuff? When are those/what are they?
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Welp, the first last chance is supposed to start today, but we don't even have results from the previous qualifier still.
Aaand has there been any information whatsoever as to when/where the national finals will be held?
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Did we ever find out who won QXC vs Agh? It's still not up on the bracket link -- did they not play?
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as usual, any replays?
ps: site looks like it was designed 10 years ago by a 10 year old -_-
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im gonna start a debate
can select qualify here?
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On August 30 2011 23:40 Vertical wrote:im gonna start a debate can select qualify here?
Does he have an American Citizenship? If yes, then he can qualify. If not, then he can't.
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On August 30 2011 23:09 esReveR wrote:
Did we ever find out who won QXC vs Agh? It's still not up on the bracket link -- did they not play?
Yes they played. I asked agh the result but he told me he wasn't going to say. I don't talk to qxc really or know his tl acct to ask him.
If neither player will tell me (or anyone) the result we won't know the result for a while until wcg either streams the game or updates the bracket.
I don't think they ever even streamed Gix vs Huk (which is really shitty for Gix considering thats easily his biggest win in sc2 career)
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lolol, good organization. Maybe hire some people from Liquidpedia to do the updating, WCG?
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Last chance quali begins in 2 days, 9/7. updated OP with the bracket.
also since I spot an Agh in the bracket it's safe to assume QXC beat him in the finals of the last quali, qxc has qualified for wcg usa! Could use another protoss now to round things out race wise... We'll see, Agh has made like every top 16 so far, ^_^
edit: still no word on when/where US finals are going to be held. T_T
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Good luck everyone! Hopefully the US finals are in the northeast somewhere :D, I'm hoping to go and see what's up/ see how organized WCG is
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On September 06 2011 01:33 LuckyFool wrote:
Last chance quali begins in 2 days, 9/7. updated OP with the bracket.
also since I spot an Agh in the bracket it's safe to assume QXC beat him in the finals of the last quali, qxc has qualified for wcg usa! Could use another protoss now to round things out race wise... We'll see, Agh has made like every top 16 so far, ^_^
edit: still no word on when/where US finals are going to be held. T_T
Qxc beat agh and qualified for WCG, i beat qxc in ro32 therefore I will win this qualifier and be that protoss of which you speak! >: D
Or I'll just lose ... Good luck to everyone!
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Wow Huk got 3ed by an unknown american player ?
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On September 08 2011 02:47 Lylat wrote:
Wow Huk got 3ed by an unknown american player ?
I believe the final score was 3-2, so not quite as crazy as a 3-0. I think somebody told me Huk was far from 100% going into that series with no sleep right after getting off a 15 hour flight or something, could be wrong though but that might help explain it.
gix is a really good zerg player capabable of beating him regardless.
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Question on the "Last Chance Qualifiers". In Qualifier #2, I made it to the RO32. You can verify this by looking up "Bluewolf" on the following bracket (note: I was top 8 for this bracket, and with 4 total brackets, that would make me top 32).
According to the news post, top 64 from any of the SC2 qualifiers should be in the Last Chance Qualifiers ( http://us.wcg.com/?page=news&id=7014 ). So - what am I missing as to why I am not included?
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Nevermind.
+ Show Spoiler +On September 08 2011 03:11 [-Bluewolf-] wrote:Question on the "Last Chance Qualifiers". In Qualifier #2, I made it to the RO32. You can verify this by looking up "Bluewolf" on the following bracket (note: I was top 8 for this bracket, and with 4 total brackets, that would make me top 32). According to the news post, top 64 from any of the SC2 qualifiers should be in the Last Chance Qualifiers ( http://us.wcg.com/?page=news&id=7014 ). So - what am I missing as to why I am not included? There are two last chance qualifiers, I imagine you'll be in the second one if you met the requirements.
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Edit: WCG responded - thank you, kollock.
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well, the @#$! just hit the fan... (sorry but no other way to describe it)
http://us.wcg.com/?page=news&id=7018
summary. There is no live national final this year. There is no trip to the grand final. Though the winner can pay their own way....
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kawaiirice is banned from tl but would like me to convey his feelings.
he is very mad.
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On September 09 2011 12:04 Caliber wrote:
kawaiirice is banned from tl but would like me to convey his feelings.
he is very mad.
:o why is he banned? But yeah thats a load of bullshit T_T
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wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow thats some huge bullshit right there yo.
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On September 09 2011 11:56 KiF1rE wrote:well, the @#$! just hit the fan... (sorry but no other way to describe it) http://us.wcg.com/?page=news&id=7018summary. There is no live national final this year. There is no trip to the grand final. Though the winner can pay their own way....
lol wow fuck that.
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On September 09 2011 12:06 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 12:04 Caliber wrote:
kawaiirice is banned from tl but would like me to convey his feelings.
he is very mad. :o why is he banned? But yeah thats a load of bullshit T_T
1: Wait what, Kawaii's banned :O? I should keep up on current events more D:. Edit: Nvm found it haha
2: Hey wait..., that's so dumb, the qualifiers are basically for nothing then, right, cause unless it's like Idra already in Korea (I'd assume), nobody would go, right? The cost-benefit just wouldn't it be worth it...
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On September 09 2011 12:06 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 12:04 Caliber wrote:
kawaiirice is banned from tl but would like me to convey his feelings.
he is very mad. :o why is he banned? But yeah thats a load of bullshit T_T
he likes to request a ban from time to time, lol.
but uh... wow and I thought WCG Canada had it bad (well it does, but this sucks hard for you guys too :[)
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Who wants to work with me to organize a WCG USA finals event in early November? Won't need sick prizes, but if we as a community can work together to make it happen... maybe we can help make some changes at WCG~
P me.
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On September 09 2011 11:56 KiF1rE wrote:well, the @#$! just hit the fan... (sorry but no other way to describe it) http://us.wcg.com/?page=news&id=7018summary. There is no live national final this year. There is no trip to the grand final. Though the winner can pay their own way....
That's dumb... what's the point of these qualifiers then. Sucks for people who put in the time into these events and even more so to the people who qualified. Hope something changes for you all, good luck.
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On September 09 2011 12:30 Xeris wrote:
Who wants to work with me to organize a WCG USA finals event in early November? Won't need sick prizes, but if we as a community can work together to make it happen... maybe we can help make some changes at WCG~
P me.
Hit me up man, I'm down and you know I can do it.
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On September 09 2011 12:30 Xeris wrote:
Who wants to work with me to organize a WCG USA finals event in early November? Won't need sick prizes, but if we as a community can work together to make it happen... maybe we can help make some changes at WCG~
P me.
time to save NA ESPORTS
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Damn this sucks even more. At least i tought even if us (Canadians) don't have somebody, at least i could cheer for an American. This is super lame.
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On September 09 2011 13:14 GTR wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 12:30 Xeris wrote:
Who wants to work with me to organize a WCG USA finals event in early November? Won't need sick prizes, but if we as a community can work together to make it happen... maybe we can help make some changes at WCG~
P me. time to save NA ESPORTS
Happy Bday!!
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On September 09 2011 12:53 blahz0r wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 11:56 KiF1rE wrote:well, the @#$! just hit the fan... (sorry but no other way to describe it) http://us.wcg.com/?page=news&id=7018summary. There is no live national final this year. There is no trip to the grand final. Though the winner can pay their own way.... That's dumb... what's the point of these qualifiers then. Sucks for people who put in the time into these events and even more so to the people who qualified. Hope something changes for you all, good luck.
yeah ive played every SC2 event, currently still fighting in the last chance #1. ive qualified and played in the national finals for other games for the past 5 years, and this is a sign that WCG could be on a massive decline to where we eventually wont have one.
though i like how they waited till the qualifiers are mostly done to announce something like this. i wonder how many players actually care now. Do we even have prizes other than that pan am thing now? like cash for 1st/2nd/3rd.
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Can anyone help me get in touch with folks at WCG USA?
I want to know if I host the tournament if the results of it would be considered legitimate? I can 100% offer a location ~
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On September 09 2011 15:16 Xeris wrote:
Can anyone help me get in touch with folks at WCG USA?
I want to know if I host the tournament if the results of it would be considered legitimate? I can 100% offer a location ~
I'll poke some people. I may have talked to them before about maps, I just don't remember so I'll look through some emails too.
Info sent
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Guys, there are bigger things in play here that cannot be mentioned in public.
There are alot of countries who are being forced to pull out or cancel their programs.
We did not wait to the last minute on purpose - the money got pulled at the last minute
I also have a location with systems and internet, but its not enough.
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If the winners will go to WCG Pan Am, and also have the option of going to the WCG World Finals if they pay their way...
Why can't we host a LAN event for the Top 8 rather than playing it online. If it's nothing out of WCG's pocket, we can / should do it.
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If you want to push forward with it , ping me and I can try to get it pushed through.
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On September 09 2011 15:16 Xeris wrote:
Can anyone help me get in touch with folks at WCG USA?
I want to know if I host the tournament if the results of it would be considered legitimate? I can 100% offer a location ~
Wow, if that happens, just another reason why Xeris is no. 1
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so any info on how the last chance plays out? haven't received any emails, just hoping it isn't tomorrow
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im in channel WCG waiting for my opponet
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well wcgusa is the official channel so probably best to use that instead
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oh weird I guess since I was in the first last chance I'm not in this one?
<- sad face
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do people not care about this anymore cuz of the change wcg did, or do they just not know about the last chance qualifiers. all my matches so far they haven't showed up >< really need to add character codes to the site so we can at least check if people are online.
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Well I think a combination of factors is leading to a failing interest in wcg usa,
no official US finals,
no starcraft2 usa finalist to grand finals
^biggest two things
horrible coverage of qualifiers, out of 8 qualifiers only 3 finals were streamed I believe
complete disorganization/hard to contact admins, (I got msgs from so many people simply not knowing where to go or who to turn to talk to when support tickets weren't responded to quickly)
bad schedules/times next to impossible to contact refs,
and the best results coverage is a player run thread on TL
I could probably go on as to why people aren't showing up anymore.
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something went wrong but agh lost to axslav 1-3 and it's strife vs axslav for the finals of last chance qual 1
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Huk, if possible, I would like to speak to YOU about rescheduling.
I am not too fond of your manager.
I'm sure everyone on TeamLiquid and Reddit would love to hear the story of how you forfeited the best player in North America out of an online WCG qualifier. Really classy move.
Even though I followed the rules, I would still love to play the best player in North America.
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the same rules apply to huk as to everyone else. If you can't make a match and make no effort to get in touch with an opponent and dont show at the scheduled time your subject to getting walkovered. its simple.
pretty comical they're trying to make you look like the bad guy for simply following rules. lol.
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If you want to play him, then why did you submit a forfeit win? We've been emailing you all day, and you obviously received the emails because you've been replying.
You submitted the forfeit win request out of the blue, while in the middle of email communication with us.
If you want to play him, then why would you do that?
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On September 22 2011 15:36 LuckyFool wrote:
the same rules apply to huk as to everyone else. If you can't make a match and make no effort to get in touch with an opponent and dont show at the scheduled time your subject to getting walkovered. its simple.
pretty comical they're trying to make you look like the bad guy for simply following rules. lol.
We did follow the rules. We've been in touch with Kollock from WCG pretty much every day for the past week via your website.
We contacted holynorth well before his match against HuK was due to be played. We exchanged 4-5 emails over the course of the day. I informed him that I would keep him updated on the scheduling process, and even gave him my Skype information so that he could contact me in a more immediate fashion.
He replied to our email about getting in touch on Skype by informing me that he had already forfeited HuK.
I'd say that we did pretty much the opposite of "showing no effort to get in touch with an opponent."
Edit: Also, we didn't make any attempts at all to make him "look like the bad guy." He's the one who posted this on TL.
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people have been trying to get free wins vs better players in wcg for the duration of the tourney. Bit odd luckyfool that you'd read a random guys 1 post and go all jerky on the situation.
Alex did a lot more than what others have done to make a match happen in a SC2 tourney.. don't think anyone wants huk to lose because a guy won't work with him on overcoming the time difference.
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I was not aware contact was attempted to be made before the match, the way random guy posted was like he was only contacted after the fact. If emails/msgs were sent beforehand that obviously changes everything.
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On September 22 2011 15:41 EGalex wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 15:36 LuckyFool wrote:
the same rules apply to huk as to everyone else. If you can't make a match and make no effort to get in touch with an opponent and dont show at the scheduled time your subject to getting walkovered. its simple.
pretty comical they're trying to make you look like the bad guy for simply following rules. lol. We did follow the rules. We've been in touch with Kollock from WCG pretty much every day for the past week via your website. We contacted holynorth well before his match against HuK was due to be played. We exchanged 4-5 emails over the course of the day. I informed him that I would keep him updated on the scheduling process, and even gave him my Skype information so that he could contact me in a more immediate fashion. He replied to our email about getting in touch on Skype by informing me that he had already forfeited HuK. I'd say that we did pretty much the opposite of "showing no effort to get in touch with an opponent." Edit: Also, we didn't make any effort at all to make him "look like the bad guy." He's the one who posted this on TL.
Yes, you contacted me 3 and a half hours before the match, thank you for that. You said around 10 eastern, you would let me know. I waited till 11 eastern, no response. I email you asking where he is, and you say tomorrow he can play.
The rules say I am allowed to decline a reschedule request. I, respectfully, did so. I then informed you I submitted the forfeit win and a ticket, and even told you to submit at ticket as well. I have done nothing that the rules of WCG do not allow me to do.
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On September 22 2011 15:54 holynorth wrote:
Yes, you contacted me 3 and a half hours before the match, thank you for that. You said around 10 eastern, you would let me know. I waited till 11 eastern, no response. I email you asking where he is, and you say tomorrow he can play.
The rules say I am allowed to decline a reschedule request. I, respectfully, did so. I then informed you I submitted the forfeit win and a ticket, and even told you to submit at ticket as well. I have done nothing that the rules of WCG do not allow me to do.
We contacted you 3 and a half hours before the match because the entire WCG schedule has been delayed. We contacted you (HuK's potential third round opponent) before HuK's second round match was even played - and I know you know this already because I mentioned it in my very first email to you. I'd say that's pretty courteous and proactive.
Nobody in this thread has accused you of breaking the rules. In fact, if anything, you have been accused of adhering to the rules far too strictly, in an unreasonable fashion, in an obvious attempt to get a cheap win over a top player.
This all started because you came on TL trying to claim that you really wanted to play HuK, when in fact you had just attempted to get a cheap win by submitting a forfeit win ticket to WCG.
Your second post in this thread completely contradicts your first. In your first post, you claim that you'd really like to play HuK in the qualifier. In your second post, you provide a justification for your attempts to not play him via submitting a forfeit win ticket.
At least pick a stance, instead of trying to put forth two mutually exclusive arguments. Either you want to play him, or you're trying to get a forfeit win via adhering strictly to the rules.
Edit: This whole argument is fairly pointless, because WCG admins will probably rule that the match should still be played, since EG has made reasonable good faith attempts to schedule it with you.
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On September 22 2011 15:59 EGalex wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 15:54 holynorth wrote:
Yes, you contacted me 3 and a half hours before the match, thank you for that. You said around 10 eastern, you would let me know. I waited till 11 eastern, no response. I email you asking where he is, and you say tomorrow he can play.
The rules say I am allowed to decline a reschedule request. I, respectfully, did so. I then informed you I submitted the forfeit win and a ticket, and even told you to submit at ticket as well. I have done nothing that the rules of WCG do not allow me to do. We contacted you 3 and a half hours before the match because the entire WCG schedule has been delayed. We contacted you (HuK's potential third round opponent) before HuK's second round match was even played - and I know you know this already because I mentioned it in my very first email to you. I'd say that's pretty courteous and proactive. Nobody in this thread has accused you of breaking the rules. In fact, if anything, you have been accused of adhering to the rules far too strictly, in an unreasonable fashion, in an obvious attempt to get a cheap win over a top player. This all started because you came on TL trying to claim that you really wanted to play HuK, when in fact you had just attempted to get a cheap win by submitting a forfeit win ticket to WCG. Your second post in this thread completely contradicts your first. In your first post, you claim that you'd really like to play HuK in the qualifier. In your second post, you provide a justification for your attempts to not play him via submitting a forfeit win ticket.
No, I'll play huk. I just want to deal with him, not you.
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On September 22 2011 16:00 holynorth wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 15:59 EGalex wrote:On September 22 2011 15:54 holynorth wrote:
Yes, you contacted me 3 and a half hours before the match, thank you for that. You said around 10 eastern, you would let me know. I waited till 11 eastern, no response. I email you asking where he is, and you say tomorrow he can play.
The rules say I am allowed to decline a reschedule request. I, respectfully, did so. I then informed you I submitted the forfeit win and a ticket, and even told you to submit at ticket as well. I have done nothing that the rules of WCG do not allow me to do. We contacted you 3 and a half hours before the match because the entire WCG schedule has been delayed. We contacted you (HuK's potential third round opponent) before HuK's second round match was even played - and I know you know this already because I mentioned it in my very first email to you. I'd say that's pretty courteous and proactive. Nobody in this thread has accused you of breaking the rules. In fact, if anything, you have been accused of adhering to the rules far too strictly, in an unreasonable fashion, in an obvious attempt to get a cheap win over a top player. This all started because you came on TL trying to claim that you really wanted to play HuK, when in fact you had just attempted to get a cheap win by submitting a forfeit win ticket to WCG. Your second post in this thread completely contradicts your first. In your first post, you claim that you'd really like to play HuK in the qualifier. In your second post, you provide a justification for your attempts to not play him via submitting a forfeit win ticket. No, I'll play huk. I just want to deal with him, not you.
Sigh, TT.
Edit: I will never learn to not put so much effort into constructing comprehensive points in my forum posts when arguing with people who obviously aren't taking the situation as seriously as I am.
Alex Garfield, a.k.a. "The Most Easily Trolled Guy in the World."
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On September 22 2011 15:59 EGalex wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 15:54 holynorth wrote:
Yes, you contacted me 3 and a half hours before the match, thank you for that. You said around 10 eastern, you would let me know. I waited till 11 eastern, no response. I email you asking where he is, and you say tomorrow he can play.
The rules say I am allowed to decline a reschedule request. I, respectfully, did so. I then informed you I submitted the forfeit win and a ticket, and even told you to submit at ticket as well. I have done nothing that the rules of WCG do not allow me to do. We contacted you 3 and a half hours before the match because the entire WCG schedule has been delayed. We contacted you (HuK's potential third round opponent) before HuK's second round match was even played - and I know you know this already because I mentioned it in my very first email to you. I'd say that's pretty courteous and proactive. Nobody in this thread has accused you of breaking the rules. In fact, if anything, you have been accused of adhering to the rules far too strictly, in an unreasonable fashion, in an obvious attempt to get a cheap win over a top player. This all started because you came on TL trying to claim that you really wanted to play HuK, when in fact you had just attempted to get a cheap win by submitting a forfeit win ticket to WCG. Your second post in this thread completely contradicts your first. In your first post, you claim that you'd really like to play HuK in the qualifier. In your second post, you provide a justification for your attempts to not play him via submitting a forfeit win ticket.
Despite him seemingly being contradictory in his desires, are you seriously accusing him of adhering far too strictly to rules? He's probably going to be seen as the bad guy regardless of whether his actions were within the rules, which he probably is trying to point out.
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No, I'll play huk. I just want to deal with him, not you.
Never mind, I think he just didn't like you
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Spoiler on latest qualified player
+ Show Spoiler +Congrats QXC, glad to see your training in Korea with FXo has really paid off long term.
This is really crazy btw that there will not be any live finals for WCG USA, not even support to be sent to the Grand Finals. Really glad to hear that Xeris, GTR are trying to rescue this. Hope for the best that WCG will legitimize their attempts and allow these seasoned vets with plenty of experience to take the reins.
Damn there is a lot of drama going on in this thread. Going to stay the fuck away from this.
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I don't want to take any sides here, but with all respect to EG, Huk and his opponent HolyNorth - while I think its not a very good attitude to take a walkover over someone because of his time zone difference, its not his fault.
All he did was within the rules and its completely legit to take the win by walkover. I can't say how long beforehand e-mail contact was because its not transparent to me as I do not have the e-Mails or conversation logs.
In my opinion (and that is towards HolyNorth) you should play the game. I don't know how good you are but I guess you are well behind Huk in terms of skill and even though you did act within the rules, you as well should have an interest in the best players representing your country.
I do not mean to offend you, but do you think you have any shot at an offline national final (which is not yet set up as it seems) because if not, I think it would be a shame to steal a spot from a talented and great player like HuK for the experience of participating in a national final.
Curious how this will end up.
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On September 22 2011 16:04 bigbeau wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 15:59 EGalex wrote:On September 22 2011 15:54 holynorth wrote:
Yes, you contacted me 3 and a half hours before the match, thank you for that. You said around 10 eastern, you would let me know. I waited till 11 eastern, no response. I email you asking where he is, and you say tomorrow he can play.
The rules say I am allowed to decline a reschedule request. I, respectfully, did so. I then informed you I submitted the forfeit win and a ticket, and even told you to submit at ticket as well. I have done nothing that the rules of WCG do not allow me to do. We contacted you 3 and a half hours before the match because the entire WCG schedule has been delayed. We contacted you (HuK's potential third round opponent) before HuK's second round match was even played - and I know you know this already because I mentioned it in my very first email to you. I'd say that's pretty courteous and proactive. Nobody in this thread has accused you of breaking the rules. In fact, if anything, you have been accused of adhering to the rules far too strictly, in an unreasonable fashion, in an obvious attempt to get a cheap win over a top player. This all started because you came on TL trying to claim that you really wanted to play HuK, when in fact you had just attempted to get a cheap win by submitting a forfeit win ticket to WCG. Your second post in this thread completely contradicts your first. In your first post, you claim that you'd really like to play HuK in the qualifier. In your second post, you provide a justification for your attempts to not play him via submitting a forfeit win ticket. Despite him seemingly being contradictory in his desires, are you seriously accusing him of adhering far too strictly to rules? He's probably going to be seen as the bad guy regardless of whether his actions were within the rules, which he probably is trying to point out.
Maybe "strictly" isn't the right word to use. "Literally" is probably the word I'm looking for. Regardless of what the rules page says, WCG admins obviously have always allowed some lenience in scheduling - for all players, not just professionals, or those in Korea. Generally, if you're being really proactive and on top of it in trying to get ahold of your opponent, you're going to be allowed to play the match. The admins want people to play, not get FF wins and losses.
We were, with no exaggeration, in the middle of an email discussion about scheduling the match, when I gave him my Skype information, only to have him reply with the news that he had already forfeited HuK. I explained to him after this that I have been speaking frequently with the WCG admins, and that they had already agreed to be flexible about when the match needed to be played by, and we had at the very least another day to get the match played. He said that this didn't really matter to him, and he was still following the rules. I explained that when an admin from a tournament makes a specific ruling related to a particular situation, it usually overrules the default rulebook.
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I agree with Naruto, why not just play him I mean, do you see yourself as a legitimate contender to win this qualifier? Because I think Huk would think he's a legitimate contender if not favorite for the bracket. Why not just save up the eventual blowup and just play him.
Edit: People are going to say what I just said was ironic since I took a lot of walkovers for people who didn't show up at last years WCG qualifier, but not once did I take a walkover over anybody who has ever won more than 10 games in a single season of iccup. There was one week I was matched up with Lastshadow, and without even logging in or anything I reported the win for him because I knew there was no point in me playing against him or taking away someone with top 4 potential for the qualifier. He ended up not logging on for that qualifier but later thanked me.
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On September 22 2011 16:13 Zlasher wrote:
I agree with Naruto, why not just play him I mean, do you see yourself as a legitimate contender to win this qualifier? Because I think Huk would think he's a legitimate contender if not favorite for the bracket. Why not just save up the eventual blowup and just play him.
Edit: People are going to say what I just said was ironic since I took a lot of walkovers for people who didn't show up at last years WCG qualifier, but not once did I take a walkover over anybody who has ever won more than 10 games in a single season of iccup. There was one week I was matched up with Lastshadow, and without even logging in or anything I reported the win for him because I knew there was no point in me playing against him or taking away someone with top 4 potential for the qualifier. He ended up not logging on for that qualifier but later thanked me.
I said I'll play several times now. I even mentioned in the WCG ticket what time works best for me and that I was just following the rules.
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On September 22 2011 16:18 holynorth wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 16:13 Zlasher wrote:
I agree with Naruto, why not just play him I mean, do you see yourself as a legitimate contender to win this qualifier? Because I think Huk would think he's a legitimate contender if not favorite for the bracket. Why not just save up the eventual blowup and just play him.
Edit: People are going to say what I just said was ironic since I took a lot of walkovers for people who didn't show up at last years WCG qualifier, but not once did I take a walkover over anybody who has ever won more than 10 games in a single season of iccup. There was one week I was matched up with Lastshadow, and without even logging in or anything I reported the win for him because I knew there was no point in me playing against him or taking away someone with top 4 potential for the qualifier. He ended up not logging on for that qualifier but later thanked me. I said I'll play several times now. I even mentioned in the WCG ticket what time works best for me and that I was just following the rules.
He just emailed me stating that he will play the match. Let's get off of his back.
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And thus... WCG Drama conclues. If this was 2008 things would be different!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And by different I mean, we'd actually have a tournament and Dino would be writing EZ in pylons, and then ending up losing
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Anyone willing to make a bet on the outcome of Huk v Holynorth?
Generous odds maybe...anyone?
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when will the 2v2 terror of Axslav and Strifeco be playing their finals match? i'd be really interested in the results and replays or vods, but doubt they'll see the light of day.
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gl holynorth, hopefully huk can make the rematch and wont miss it playing soccer
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On September 22 2011 21:28 CptGrackSparrow wrote:
when will the 2v2 terror of Axslav and Strifeco be playing their finals match? i'd be really interested in the results and replays or vods, but doubt they'll see the light of day.
Right now and Axslav is streaming it: http://www.twitch.tv/Axslav
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man holynorth sent EGalex on a trip around the world there just so he could trollface him in the end
would have been hilarious if holynorth ended up winning
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Mmm its ok guys -.- Huk won XD
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Huk, or whoever is scheduling for Huk, pm me on here or wcg if you need to schedule a different time tomorrow.
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I will let them know! ty sir <3
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anyone know the rules regarding final match for last chance? since it was double elim does huk start up 1 game?
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no idea, but in broodwar the guy coming from losers bracket had to win 2 bo3's whereas winners bracket player needs 1 bo3.
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hm well its a bo5, so does having a 1 game advantage sound fair?
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sounds fair to me. I have 0 authority on the matter though, I'm surprised there's no rules about it anywhere.
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unless its hidden on their site there's very little info about last chance qualifiers, they don't even have the starting maps listed for final bracket D: or they just neglected to email me, which has also happened before ><
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Okay we finished finals for last chance. What we ended up doing is having two bo5's if I won the first bo5. dunno if there should be spoilers or not but:
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +First bo5 I won 3-2, second I was down 1-2 and in the fourth game Huk started to lag really badly, tried to wait it out but ended up having to finish the game which I won. Due to that I decided to give him the win, as it wasn't clear who would have won if he wasn't lagging (it was really bad). i didn't want to play the last match and have who goes through decided by lag, and Huk deserves the win more.
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On September 30 2011 14:25 Dark.Carnival wrote:Okay we finished finals for last chance. What we ended up doing is having two bo5's if I won the first bo5. dunno if there should be spoilers or not but: + Show Spoiler [Results] +First bo5 I won 3-2, second I was down 1-2 and in the fourth game Huk started to lag really badly, tried to wait it out but ended up having to finish the game which I won. Due to that I decided to give him the win, as it wasn't clear who would have won if he wasn't lagging (it was really bad). i didn't want to play the last match and have who goes through decided by lag, and Huk deserves the win more.
That was really nice of you
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wow darkcell pretty manner user;
thanks to all who played in wcg usa this year, not really as much fun as it was in past years for broodwar, hopefully 2012 improves and there's an actual finals...
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anything resolved about still sending a player to the grand finals? through xeris or whoever else wants to organize it? or is it not possible?
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On September 30 2011 14:25 Dark.Carnival wrote:Okay we finished finals for last chance. What we ended up doing is having two bo5's if I won the first bo5. dunno if there should be spoilers or not but: + Show Spoiler [Results] +First bo5 I won 3-2, second I was down 1-2 and in the fourth game Huk started to lag really badly, tried to wait it out but ended up having to finish the game which I won. Due to that I decided to give him the win, as it wasn't clear who would have won if he wasn't lagging (it was really bad). i didn't want to play the last match and have who goes through decided by lag, and Huk deserves the win more.
awwww that was so nice of you <3
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wth you let Huk win?on purpose? i'm confused.
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I am trying to follow this thread but am really confused as it says no USA finals this year, what happens to all the qualified players? Can someone aware me please?
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On October 03 2011 21:20 FreshandLegit wrote:
I am trying to follow this thread but am really confused as it says no USA finals this year, what happens to all the qualified players? Can someone aware me please?
Be aware!
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so is there any point in playing the final 8 qualifier matches? nobody is getting sent anywhere..
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I'm waiting for a response/email from the WCG USA folks... I've given them the case and an offer to do something O_O~
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On October 04 2011 03:42 giX wrote:
so is there any point in playing the final 8 qualifier matches? nobody is getting sent anywhere..
If you don't plan on paying your way/your team doesn't plan on paying your way there is absolutely 0% reason to play aside from stopping others from going (which would suck).
WCG USA has 0 support for world finals this time around.
PS: now that I think about it there IS a reason.. they WILL send you to the pan am champ if you win which is usually in mexico.. kinda cool / crack at a fun tourney on someone elses dime.
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On October 04 2011 04:25 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2011 03:42 giX wrote:
so is there any point in playing the final 8 qualifier matches? nobody is getting sent anywhere.. If you don't plan on paying your way/your team doesn't plan on paying your way there is absolutely 0% reason to play aside from stopping others from going (which would suck). WCG USA has 0 support for world finals this time around. PS: now that I think about it there IS a reason.. they WILL send you to the pan am champ if you win which is usually in mexico.. kinda cool / crack at a fun tourney on someone elses dime.
As a matter of fact, they are going to be in Sao Paulo Brazil this year. We had WCG Qualifiers in El Salvador this year, and we get to send a rep to Brazil for the Panamerican Championship and one representative for the grand Finals in Korea . We only had qualifiers for 2 games so there wasn't much competition budget wise...
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"We just tried calling you regarding the WCG USA Grand Final tournament. I just want to clear up some details which I don't think I made clear in my previous emails. As you know you will be required to pay for your own flight, lodging, food, expenses etc, but on-top of that WCG is also requiring that the USA Representative pay a mandatory $1,500 player fee just to enter the tournament. In this past this was covered by WCG USA, but since such drastic budget cuts were made, it is simply no longer possible for that to be waived. This trip is basically going to put you out something like $4,000 when all the necessary expenses are added up."
LOL.
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o god.. that is so bad lol
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so you have to pay your own way to WCG Pan Am?
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On October 28 2011 06:11 giX wrote:
"We just tried calling you regarding the WCG USA Grand Final tournament. I just want to clear up some details which I don't think I made clear in my previous emails. As you know you will be required to pay for your own flight, lodging, food, expenses etc, but on-top of that WCG is also requiring that the USA Representative pay a mandatory $1,500 player fee just to enter the tournament. In this past this was covered by WCG USA, but since such drastic budget cuts were made, it is simply no longer possible for that to be waived. This trip is basically going to put you out something like $4,000 when all the necessary expenses are added up."
LOL.
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
$1500 TO ENTER A TOURNAMENT YOU QUALIFIED FOR
THATS JUST SO GREAT LOLLLLLLLL
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so is there any chance of one of the 8 going to wcg
i mean huk/idra will probably be in the country anyway and eg has the money
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On October 28 2011 08:03 KawaiiRice wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 06:11 giX wrote:
"We just tried calling you regarding the WCG USA Grand Final tournament. I just want to clear up some details which I don't think I made clear in my previous emails. As you know you will be required to pay for your own flight, lodging, food, expenses etc, but on-top of that WCG is also requiring that the USA Representative pay a mandatory $1,500 player fee just to enter the tournament. In this past this was covered by WCG USA, but since such drastic budget cuts were made, it is simply no longer possible for that to be waived. This trip is basically going to put you out something like $4,000 when all the necessary expenses are added up."
LOL. HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA $1500 TO ENTER A TOURNAMENT YOU QUALIFIED FOR THATS JUST SO GREAT LOLLLLLLLL
this year wcg seems like such a troll. actually glad im just watching this unfold as opposed to participating at this stage lol. its like they are trying to fund the prize money for the finals as well with all this... i wonder how the world final is going to look this year, especially in comparison with the other SC2 stuff going on.
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as long as huk/idra play in what they're supposed to I'll be happy.
wcg usa quite fail this year...makes me sad to see. When my playing days are over I want to apply to work for wcg usa.
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I hate to bump this, but I get the distinct feeling that the USA Finals aren't going to be played? Or there's going to be some last minute or late "Online" finals?
WCG's main SC2 tournament should still be pretty good, and being the selfish SC2 fan I am, I'd really like to see Huk, Idra or at least someone with a USA flag competing.
Which really leads to the question: is it just a matter of convincing EG to spend 10k+ to send/enter Idra, Huk or Axslav? (And, seriously, 1.5k USD to *enter* the finals? What the hell? That means the prize pool is actually from the National Entry fees)
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usa finals have virtually been cancelled.
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1.5k to enter... that has to be some kind of sick joke lol
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omg, even croatia found sponsors for wcg, it would be disaster if US player(s) won't be at wcg :/
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Haha, what the heck? America, land of the poor. Maybe it's time for an organization who wants a lot of attention at a reasonable prize to step in and take the reigns from the incompetence of the current license-holders?
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I thought that Blizzard had something against paying big bucks to enter a tournament? Or do the terms of service not apply to Kespa?
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WCG USA is not organised by Kespa? None of the other qualifiers have asked for a participation fee.
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On November 21 2011 19:22 OptimusYale wrote:
I thought that Blizzard had something against paying big bucks to enter a tournament? Or do the terms of service not apply to Kespa?
why would kepsa have anything to do with the US qualifiers for wcg? lol.. they don't have anything to do with korean qualifiers either. ogn just happens to be the korean broadcasting partner.
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http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World Cyber Games 2011
