[FXO] FXOpen Invitational Series #2 - $1500 - Page 55

Khalleb

Canada1909 Posts

March 26 2011 04:19 GMT

#1081

On March 26 2011 13:17 backtoback wrote:
ROOTbrittny really needs to focus on his macro... always have 1k worth of gas and minerals and 50 supply down with one extra base mining for so long :/

he only played for 1 month give him a chance

RifleCow

Canada637 Posts

March 26 2011 04:19 GMT

#1082

Idra and Cloud are now 1 game each, WHO WILL WIN THE BRAGGING RITES??

blooblooblahblah

Australia4163 Posts

March 26 2011 04:20 GMT

#1083

Britney seemed to just give up in the end. Huge trust fund and just a-moved everything into the siege tanks.

TazzDingo

Germany502 Posts

March 26 2011 04:20 GMT

#1084

1-1 IdrA vs Cloud now I guess.

dambros

Brazil432 Posts

March 26 2011 04:20 GMT

#1085

Any updates about Slect vs Cruncher?

eAzydaman

83 Posts

March 26 2011 04:20 GMT

#1086

Oh noeess not another TvT :D

HolyArrow

United States7116 Posts

March 26 2011 04:20 GMT

#1087

On March 26 2011 13:16 blooblooblahblah wrote:

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On March 26 2011 13:09 HolyArrow wrote:

On March 26 2011 12:53 city42 wrote:

On March 26 2011 12:48 HolyArrow wrote:

On March 26 2011 12:46 city42 wrote:

On March 26 2011 12:42 HolyArrow wrote:

On March 26 2011 12:37 DiaBoLuS wrote:
Socke missed that forcefield.

5secs delay from europe.

Lmao. The thing is that there's already been plenty of posts here stating that EU->NA is pretty much fine, while many people are obviously stating that KR-> NA is pretty bad. Don't get all bitter and sarcastic because you don't like the facts.

By plenty do you mean one? Here's a snippet from Socke's interview after winning the J.tv invitational last week (on NA server):

He’s got a good 4 gate build, I don’t know if he’s a strong player or not but he seemed to all-in a lot throughout the tournament so lets just play safe even though you’re not really able to do good 4 gate wars with the lag currently. That is what went through my mind.

If the EU-->NA lag is such that he can't even 4 gate properly, I would hardly call that "pretty much fine." It's evident from your posts that you are hugely protective of the Korean players, but stop being an idiot.

Ouch. If the EU->NA lag is that bad and the KR->NA lag is even worse, then that's pretty terrible for the KR players.

You're also neglecting to consider the time issue. This tournament is based around the SEA timezones (the admins stated as much during the first FXOpen invitational), so the Koreans are playing at a comfortable time while the EU guys have to play in the wee hours of the morning. This is obviously having an effect on their play, as Socke just blew a completely won game vs. Zenio by not reacting fast enough to the ramp.

Lastly, if the lag makes it so unplayable, and everyone has known about this since TSL last weekend, the Koreans could have simply declined their invites. No one is holding a gun to their head and forcing them to play. If they choose to compete, they have to abide by the tournament rules, which means playing on the NA server. Latency is just a side effect of that, so it's not acceptable as an excuse for losing.

I think it's fine that Koreans are in the tournament. The issue isn't about Koreans losing due to lag, my problem is that people are just blindly praising wins while determinedly ignoring the very real lag issues.

Also, I acknowledge that time is an issue, but it's not as bad as latency IMO.

But there are also people blindly disregarding these wins because of lag while ignoring the fact tht the other player deserved the win.

There is obviously lag but in a lot of these games, it is not the reason why they lost. People shouldn't use the lag as an excuse for a loss, nor should they ignore the fact tht lag is evident.

I agree, people shouldn't use lag as the prime and only reason for a loss, but I don't think anyone can deny that, if Koreans are experiencing around 600-800 ms as I believe FXOpen stated, it's hardly an even playing field at all.

Anyway I do not wish to shit up this thread anymore with my lag talk. I apologize to everyone.

iNfeRnaL

Germany1908 Posts

March 26 2011 04:21 GMT

#1088

Naugrim 1-2 MKP unfortunately

Trig

United Kingdom64 Posts

March 26 2011 04:21 GMT

#1089

damn tvts -_-

Chicane

United States7875 Posts

March 26 2011 04:21 GMT

#1090

So many interesting match ups and results. Whoever wins in Cloud vs IdrA has to go through Ensnare and Socke... D:

iNfeRnaL

Germany1908 Posts

March 26 2011 04:21 GMT

#1091

Super is now Protoss, so no TvT

ptbl

United States6074 Posts

March 26 2011 04:22 GMT

#1092

It's superprime not supernova.

TazzDingo

Germany502 Posts

March 26 2011 04:22 GMT

#1093

btw, Socke still has to wait and stay awake for idra/cloud/ensnare and play the winner of these today, right? As it's LB Round 6

motbob

United States12546 Posts

March 26 2011 04:23 GMT

#1094

It's anypro -_-

EDIT: or is it? (P)

Super?

iNfeRnaL

Germany1908 Posts

March 26 2011 04:23 GMT

#1095

Yea its not Supernova, I've played Super before and he used the ID Terran but played Protoss.

dambros

Brazil432 Posts

March 26 2011 04:23 GMT

#1096

On March 26 2011 13:21 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Super is now Protoss, so no TvT

ogsSupernova is Toss?

EDIT: Nvm i didnt see the stream refreshed with a LB game.

Trig

United Kingdom64 Posts

March 26 2011 04:24 GMT

#1097

oh, still. give idras matches :X

Ludwigvan

Germany2373 Posts

March 26 2011 04:24 GMT

#1098

On March 26 2011 13:22 TazzDingo wrote:
btw, Socke still has to wait and stay awake for idra/cloud/ensnare and play the winner of these today, right? As it's LB Round 6

I don't really know, but I think last FXOpen they had some games played on the next day due to time zones.

FliedLice

Germany7494 Posts

March 26 2011 04:24 GMT

#1099

On March 26 2011 13:22 TazzDingo wrote:
btw, Socke still has to wait and stay awake for idra/cloud/ensnare and play the winner of these today, right? As it's LB Round 6

Ugh, poor Socke...

Ezze

Canada934 Posts

March 26 2011 04:24 GMT

#1100

This is one of the least interesting matches in the losers bracket. SuperPrime vs stalife

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