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$100 Showmatch! iNcontroL vs. drewbie! - Page 5

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SecondChance
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia603 Posts
February 18 2011 11:21 GMT
#81
Gotta love it when somebody puts in $100 of their own so we can have cool matches like these. We should all give a big thanks to the guy who was generous enough to do so. I think thats a defining factor of Starcraft, but more specifically the TL community as such.

Whilst I am no perfect member, it's still very cool to see.
I see the want to in your eyes.
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
February 18 2011 12:22 GMT
#82
Thumbs up for the event and the anonymous sponsor. Showmatches like this are a really nice addition to what the scene already has to offer.

The games themselves were nice to watch, but I was kind of disappointed by ...

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..Incontrol's play. Drewbie outplayed him in some of the games and he failed to use clear advantages in others. In the last game, it didn't even seem like he wanted to fight anymore.
Dont Panic
Profile Joined October 2010
United States194 Posts
February 18 2011 12:30 GMT
#83
I hate to be that guy but it has to be said. Incontrol isn't a top 10 US player and people need to stop seeing him like he is one. I know Artosis says his pvz is great but that is like saying your child is the smartest on the short bus. You can spend your money however you want but if you want better games get tyler or kiwikaki. He is a cool personality but he should stick to casting and i think hes a genuinely funny guy
I am order. I am logic. I know exactly who I am.
Darksteel
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland319 Posts
February 18 2011 12:37 GMT
#84
On February 18 2011 21:30 Dont Panic wrote:
I hate to be that guy but it has to be said. Incontrol isn't a top 10 US player and people need to stop seeing him like he is one. I know Artosis says his pvz is great but that is like saying your child is the smartest on the short bus. You can spend your money however you want but if you want better games get tyler or kiwikaki. He is a cool personality but he should stick to casting and i think hes a genuinely funny guy


Its kinda irrelevant to rank players in or out of top10 because the game is still very inconsistent. I believe all of the players who like placed in top 16 in major tournaments have a chance of winning major events on a good day and with a lucky streak. Of course we can see difference in skill in individual games between the good and the best players, but one mistake in positioning can cost you the 15min game of perfection.

TL/DR Cut the players some slack result wise and enjoy the great entertainment they offer.
absalom86
Profile Joined April 2010
Iceland1770 Posts
February 18 2011 12:48 GMT
#85
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Game 3 was quite bad by Incontrol. Had a huge advantage and decided to all in instead of containing and expanding. A good old Artosis quote comes to mind " When you"re ahead get more ahead ".
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AskJoshy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1625 Posts
February 18 2011 17:55 GMT
#86
On February 18 2011 21:37 Darksteel wrote:
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On February 18 2011 21:30 Dont Panic wrote:
I hate to be that guy but it has to be said. Incontrol isn't a top 10 US player and people need to stop seeing him like he is one. I know Artosis says his pvz is great but that is like saying your child is the smartest on the short bus. You can spend your money however you want but if you want better games get tyler or kiwikaki. He is a cool personality but he should stick to casting and i think hes a genuinely funny guy


Its kinda irrelevant to rank players in or out of top10 because the game is still very inconsistent. I believe all of the players who like placed in top 16 in major tournaments have a chance of winning major events on a good day and with a lucky streak. Of course we can see difference in skill in individual games between the good and the best players, but one mistake in positioning can cost you the 15min game of perfection.

TL/DR Cut the players some slack result wise and enjoy the great entertainment they offer.

I think it's true that if they played this best of 7 a hundred times, each player would take a fair share. Also, if they had even played on a different day, or different time of day, things could have gone differently. No respect lost for either player, it's just how the game goes and in a showmatch, you only have one chance to get it right.
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shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
February 18 2011 18:08 GMT
#87
I saw the games and i think incontrol lost 2 games that he could have won if he just expanded instead of trying to end the game after he made huge damage.. JB and metapolis i believe. (but who am i do know better) but he aknowledge he lost those games when he had advantage

drewbie is not a push over.. the reapers might have a use with the new bigger maps imo he played it very nice

thank you
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Muffinman53
Profile Joined November 2010
571 Posts
February 18 2011 18:41 GMT
#88
Epic games! I love Drewbie :D
The reaper play on the first map was really fun to watch. I don't think I've ever seen reapers used to that extent before.

Hoju
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States449 Posts
February 18 2011 18:56 GMT
#89
These two are playing again tonight in the first round of the FXOpen Invitational
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Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
February 18 2011 18:58 GMT
#90
On February 19 2011 03:56 Hoju wrote:
These two are playing again tonight in the first round of the FXOpen Invitational

Poor incontrol.
RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
February 18 2011 19:46 GMT
#91
On February 18 2011 21:30 Dont Panic wrote:
I hate to be that guy but it has to be said. Incontrol isn't a top 10 US player and people need to stop seeing him like he is one. I know Artosis says his pvz is great but that is like saying your child is the smartest on the short bus. You can spend your money however you want but if you want better games get tyler or kiwikaki. He is a cool personality but he should stick to casting and i think hes a genuinely funny guy


what an unbelivably offensive post for no reason at all. he has given more to this community than pretty much everyone on TL. he doesn't win a bo7 vs a great terran player and all of a sudden hes getting shit on? inc is a solid, solid protoss so relax
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proot
Profile Joined June 2004
United States126 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-18 23:49:11
February 18 2011 20:29 GMT
#92
Josh, AMAZING production and commentary. Made this really enjoyable to watch, even if the games weren't that great. You definitely made me a fan of your content through sheer effort alone.

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Don't know why incontrol played so gimmicky instead of matching drewbies expansions. He's a better defensive player than he is at executing 1 base styles - he must have been having an off day. The one game he almost won, he executed really well, but was supported pretty heavily by drewbie's misread, and he still didn't win! Now, as an avid fan of drewbie's stream, his defense and harassment decisions are incredible. Incontrol was basically just banging his head into a brick wall, making for pretty lackluster games
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MaV_gGSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1345 Posts
February 18 2011 23:17 GMT
#93
Where can we get the replays? Thanks Josh, amazing stuff as always.
Life's good :D
AskJoshy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1625 Posts
February 19 2011 05:18 GMT
#94
Give it a couple more days and I'll release the replays. I want people to watch the videos, of course. =)
Heroes, Hearthstone, and SC2 videos: http://www.youtube.com/AskJoshy
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