• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:58
CEST 00:58
KST 07:58
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.161Rollback Netcode in Brood War845.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202623Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 2026 Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.16 StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon ESL Pro Tour for SC2 discontinued [Old] StarCraft 3 Reportedly in Development
Tourneys
$3,500 WardiTV Not-Summer Championship Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! BW General Discussion BSL23 Confirmations Starts on New BSL Portal ASL FINALS HYPE VIDEO 2X
Tourneys
[ASL22] Semifinal B ASL 22 Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Semifinal A
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Link Between Gaming and …
TrAiDoS
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10671 users

$100 Showmatch! iNcontroL vs. drewbie! - Page 5

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 All
SecondChance
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia603 Posts
February 18 2011 11:21 GMT
#81
Gotta love it when somebody puts in $100 of their own so we can have cool matches like these. We should all give a big thanks to the guy who was generous enough to do so. I think thats a defining factor of Starcraft, but more specifically the TL community as such.

Whilst I am no perfect member, it's still very cool to see.
I see the want to in your eyes.
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
February 18 2011 12:22 GMT
#82
Thumbs up for the event and the anonymous sponsor. Showmatches like this are a really nice addition to what the scene already has to offer.

The games themselves were nice to watch, but I was kind of disappointed by ...

+ Show Spoiler +
..Incontrol's play. Drewbie outplayed him in some of the games and he failed to use clear advantages in others. In the last game, it didn't even seem like he wanted to fight anymore.
Dont Panic
Profile Joined October 2010
United States194 Posts
February 18 2011 12:30 GMT
#83
I hate to be that guy but it has to be said. Incontrol isn't a top 10 US player and people need to stop seeing him like he is one. I know Artosis says his pvz is great but that is like saying your child is the smartest on the short bus. You can spend your money however you want but if you want better games get tyler or kiwikaki. He is a cool personality but he should stick to casting and i think hes a genuinely funny guy
I am order. I am logic. I know exactly who I am.
Darksteel
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland319 Posts
February 18 2011 12:37 GMT
#84
On February 18 2011 21:30 Dont Panic wrote:
I hate to be that guy but it has to be said. Incontrol isn't a top 10 US player and people need to stop seeing him like he is one. I know Artosis says his pvz is great but that is like saying your child is the smartest on the short bus. You can spend your money however you want but if you want better games get tyler or kiwikaki. He is a cool personality but he should stick to casting and i think hes a genuinely funny guy


Its kinda irrelevant to rank players in or out of top10 because the game is still very inconsistent. I believe all of the players who like placed in top 16 in major tournaments have a chance of winning major events on a good day and with a lucky streak. Of course we can see difference in skill in individual games between the good and the best players, but one mistake in positioning can cost you the 15min game of perfection.

TL/DR Cut the players some slack result wise and enjoy the great entertainment they offer.
absalom86
Profile Joined April 2010
Iceland1770 Posts
February 18 2011 12:48 GMT
#85
+ Show Spoiler +
Game 3 was quite bad by Incontrol. Had a huge advantage and decided to all in instead of containing and expanding. A good old Artosis quote comes to mind " When you"re ahead get more ahead ".
Thief @ #teamliquid @ Quakenet
AskJoshy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1625 Posts
February 18 2011 17:55 GMT
#86
On February 18 2011 21:37 Darksteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 21:30 Dont Panic wrote:
I hate to be that guy but it has to be said. Incontrol isn't a top 10 US player and people need to stop seeing him like he is one. I know Artosis says his pvz is great but that is like saying your child is the smartest on the short bus. You can spend your money however you want but if you want better games get tyler or kiwikaki. He is a cool personality but he should stick to casting and i think hes a genuinely funny guy


Its kinda irrelevant to rank players in or out of top10 because the game is still very inconsistent. I believe all of the players who like placed in top 16 in major tournaments have a chance of winning major events on a good day and with a lucky streak. Of course we can see difference in skill in individual games between the good and the best players, but one mistake in positioning can cost you the 15min game of perfection.

TL/DR Cut the players some slack result wise and enjoy the great entertainment they offer.

I think it's true that if they played this best of 7 a hundred times, each player would take a fair share. Also, if they had even played on a different day, or different time of day, things could have gone differently. No respect lost for either player, it's just how the game goes and in a showmatch, you only have one chance to get it right.
Heroes, Hearthstone, and SC2 videos: http://www.youtube.com/AskJoshy
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
February 18 2011 18:08 GMT
#87
I saw the games and i think incontrol lost 2 games that he could have won if he just expanded instead of trying to end the game after he made huge damage.. JB and metapolis i believe. (but who am i do know better) but he aknowledge he lost those games when he had advantage

drewbie is not a push over.. the reapers might have a use with the new bigger maps imo he played it very nice

thank you
BENFICA || Besties: idra, Stephano, Nestea, Jaedong, Serral, Jinro, Scarlett || Zerg <3
Muffinman53
Profile Joined November 2010
571 Posts
February 18 2011 18:41 GMT
#88
Epic games! I love Drewbie :D
The reaper play on the first map was really fun to watch. I don't think I've ever seen reapers used to that extent before.

Hoju
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States449 Posts
February 18 2011 18:56 GMT
#89
These two are playing again tonight in the first round of the FXOpen Invitational
www.TheInfestedArchon.com - SC2 Satire
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
February 18 2011 18:58 GMT
#90
On February 19 2011 03:56 Hoju wrote:
These two are playing again tonight in the first round of the FXOpen Invitational

Poor incontrol.
RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
February 18 2011 19:46 GMT
#91
On February 18 2011 21:30 Dont Panic wrote:
I hate to be that guy but it has to be said. Incontrol isn't a top 10 US player and people need to stop seeing him like he is one. I know Artosis says his pvz is great but that is like saying your child is the smartest on the short bus. You can spend your money however you want but if you want better games get tyler or kiwikaki. He is a cool personality but he should stick to casting and i think hes a genuinely funny guy


what an unbelivably offensive post for no reason at all. he has given more to this community than pretty much everyone on TL. he doesn't win a bo7 vs a great terran player and all of a sudden hes getting shit on? inc is a solid, solid protoss so relax
I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. | coL.Ryan | www.twitter.com/coL_RyanR
proot
Profile Joined June 2004
United States126 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-18 23:49:11
February 18 2011 20:29 GMT
#92
Josh, AMAZING production and commentary. Made this really enjoyable to watch, even if the games weren't that great. You definitely made me a fan of your content through sheer effort alone.

+ Show Spoiler +
Don't know why incontrol played so gimmicky instead of matching drewbies expansions. He's a better defensive player than he is at executing 1 base styles - he must have been having an off day. The one game he almost won, he executed really well, but was supported pretty heavily by drewbie's misread, and he still didn't win! Now, as an avid fan of drewbie's stream, his defense and harassment decisions are incredible. Incontrol was basically just banging his head into a brick wall, making for pretty lackluster games
.
MaV_gGSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1345 Posts
February 18 2011 23:17 GMT
#93
Where can we get the replays? Thanks Josh, amazing stuff as always.
Life's good :D
AskJoshy
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1625 Posts
February 19 2011 05:18 GMT
#94
Give it a couple more days and I'll release the replays. I want people to watch the videos, of course. =)
Heroes, Hearthstone, and SC2 videos: http://www.youtube.com/AskJoshy
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 32m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech159
ViBE156
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 554
Dewaltoss 80
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1156
minikerr10
Super Smash Bros
PPMD45
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby3847
Other Games
summit1g2342
shahzam544
PiGStarcraft315
ToD275
Livibee134
JuggernautJason16
C9.Mang00
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick155
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• RyuSc2 38
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 39
• blackmanpl 22
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2750
• masondota21539
Other Games
• imaqtpie1144
• Shiphtur625
• Scarra270
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
1h 32m
Kung Fu Cup
12h 2m
The PondCast
1d 11h
Online Event
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Rush vs Soulkey
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
BSL Open Qualifier
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
IPSL
4 days
[ Show More ]
BSL Open Qualifier
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-12
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
HCC Season 3
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.