EPTidra if you HAD to switch races, would u pick toss or terran at this point in time?
(just curious)
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Essentia
1150 Posts
idra if you HAD to switch races, would u pick toss or terran at this point in time? (just curious) | ||
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netherDrake
Singapore1831 Posts
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FataLe
New Zealand4519 Posts
On December 22 2010 21:39 rift wrote: Greg Fields: will he build an infestor? Will any of them? Zenio built infestors. Nullified by Siege Tanks bro. Edit: Oh sorry, "bro" is a very commonly used word in New Zealand (slang) if you thought I was bringing in 4chan crap into TL then you are sorely mistaken, mod. User was warned for this post | ||
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Dingotrold
Denmark622 Posts
On December 22 2010 21:40 Mr. Nefarious wrote: I really hope IdrA stomps MVP with some surprising builds. I'm sick of seeing the best Zergs in the world lose to vanilla marine/tank. While it's certainly a legitimate strategy, it seems like now that many pro players can properly execute marine micro it almost completely nullifies the baneling. I just watched Nestea lose about 50 banelings to about 20 marines and two tanks, one of which wasn't even sieged. When the best players in the world can't take a single game off of a talented terran player on their best maps... I'm genuinely concerned for the state of the game. Well, NesTea DID run his banelings single-file style past sieged tanks to catch up to marines stimming and running away. You could see their troll-faces from here while the tanks were having a field day. There are obviously things that you can do against this stuff, it's just hard as fuck. These zerg players need to play themselves out, instead of attacking sieged tanks. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
On December 22 2010 21:39 FataLe wrote: Last night in the YGosu Tournament, Choya beat MVP again but this time he was just outplayed, read perfectly, countered beautifully. Perhaps Choya is better than most think. I think we learnt Choya was better than most thought when he played that series vs Jinro, silly mistake in the fifth game but he handled himself pretty well outside of that. Worth noting actually that MvP lost to Protoss (choya) and Terran (clide) in ygosu, but absolutely crushed the Zerg (Cezanne) who ended up winning the group. I'd like NesTea to get a game here...and since you seem to browsing this thread, good luck when you play Idra. | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4519 Posts
On December 22 2010 21:41 derppp wrote: he was way better than you in bw and he probably is in sc2, you've got nothing on him ps. ![[image loading]](http://i25.tinypic.com/25iambd.jpg) You live up to your name. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
On December 22 2010 21:41 Essentia wrote: idra if you HAD to switch races, would u pick toss or terran at this point in time? (just curious) about 3 months ago in an interview with artosis (u can find it on artosistv i believe) he said that he played terran at the start and didn't like it, he said he would most probably switch to protoss | ||
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Byzantium
United States423 Posts
Nestea opens gas before pool and expands only after zerglings are out. MVP goes 1 rax CC. MVP also loves his early-game spam, going over 400 in-game APM for a few seconds while his first depot was building. | ||
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Asta
Germany3491 Posts
ugh... You do realize that there do exist more than one map and more than one strategy, right? Even if there is one situation that is completely broken, it can't necessarily be properly described with "Terra imba . lol". That would only be the case if there was a deterministic way for the beneficiary to reach that situation on every map. On the other hand, even a "balanced" match up can be utterly broken. | ||
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ZeNd0kUn
United States331 Posts
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Mr. Nefarious
United States515 Posts
On December 22 2010 21:40 OutlaW- wrote: why is zerg terrible Play as zerg for a week. When I started SCII I played as terran and I felt like I took games off of better players then myself with a basic MM stim push, or a slow tank push. Now as a zerg player, I routinely feel like I lose to players much worse than myself because of cheesy crap, decent marine micro (Press T and run away) or not having any fucking units that actually attack air except for the hydra which is pretty much a joke. Playing as a Zerg player is like walking a tightrope, do it correctly and you look like a genius, however even the slightest mistake will cost you the game as well as quite of few things completely out of your control. | ||
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Killmouse
Austria5700 Posts
On December 22 2010 21:45 Asta wrote: ugh... You do realize that there do exist more than one map and more than one strategy, right? Even if there is one situation that is completely broken, it can't necessarily be properly described with "Terra imba . lol". That would only be the case if there was a deterministic way for the beneficiary to reach that situation on every map. On the other hand, even a "balanced" match up can be utterly broken. what re u talkin about?.. i didnt say terran imba, i said if he thinks that terran is imba since he said "mvp has nothing to do with the results so far" | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4519 Posts
On December 22 2010 21:45 Asta wrote: ugh... You do realize that there do exist more than one map and more than one strategy, right? Even if there is one situation that is completely broken, it can't necessarily be properly described with "Terra imba . lol". That would only be the case if there was a deterministic way for the beneficiary to reach that situation on every map. On the other hand, even a "balanced" match up can be utterly broken. I think it's to do with Terran coercing the Z into those Broken situations. | ||
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CalmDown.Breathe
United States176 Posts
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Rouel
Sweden138 Posts
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BritishBeef
United Kingdom372 Posts
On December 22 2010 21:45 Asta wrote: ugh... You do realize that there do exist more than one map and more than one strategy, right? Even if there is one situation that is completely broken, it can't necessarily be properly described with "Terra imba . lol". That would only be the case if there was a deterministic way for the beneficiary to reach that situation on every map. On the other hand, even a "balanced" match up can be utterly broken. I guess the general jist of it is.. if you are a zerg player like me... it really FUCKS you off that when u 15 hatch you have to make a sunken + 10/12 lings to stop something that PROBLY isn't even coming but just incase it does you still have to build it... Then after terran still has 3/4 options .. expand.. tech...(to either hellions or banshee which are complete opposite responses) or time a all-in Then to top it off you can't even scout what hes guna do .. sorry for bringing balance into this thread but clearly you are not a zerg player and don't see the ACTUAL problem not theoretical | ||
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Essentia
1150 Posts
There are so many other reasons zerg is a harder race to play as, and ppl who have never played as zerg really should try it just for fun and get a diff perspective. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On December 22 2010 21:40 OutlaW- wrote: why is zerg terrible because its early game is so bad that other races can fe, be completely safe, and apply dangerous pressure and because its units are so bad that terran can then build a battle cruiser and still have the rest of his army, minus the bc, be superior to your | ||
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Weavel
Finland9221 Posts
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Byzantium
United States423 Posts
Nestea harasses with mutas but MVP is playing oddly passive... because he's built a fusion core. Battlecruiser out for MVP and it's again a tank/marine push but this time with a battlecruiser floating about blasting spine crawlers, overlords, and banelings. Mutas take down the first BC but there's a second one lumbering towards the tank line. MVP now pushing Nestea's third. Banelings do damage but there are still tanks and marines left and Nestea has nothing. GG! | ||
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