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On December 06 2010 20:10 MiniTsunami wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2010 20:09 oncearunner wrote:On December 06 2010 20:06 Shikyo wrote:On December 06 2010 20:05 oncearunner wrote:[B]On December 06 2010 20:01 Holgerius wrote:
It's possible for good Terrans to play macro games vs Zerg. It's just that most of 'em never really does it and therefore suck at it once it happens. this logic is bullshit. terran would love to be able to compete in macro games with a zerg. the problem is takin the 3rd. any losses in the early game make your army so small and the inevitable muta harass is impossible to deal with. Thats the problem, mutas flying around rediculously fast and they attack every side of ur base at once, picking anything off not protected by a LARGE group of rines. its just very diffucult to defend muta harass when ur spread to 3-4 bases. PS. thors dont counter mutas...we need a better A2G mech unit Build 7-10 turrets per base vs mass Muta... if you remove their mobility, they're terribad combat units. did u just suggest we spend 2100 to 3000 minerals defending 3 bases? Flash does it all the damn time in BW, have you ever seen his bases?
And only Flash can turtle like that, every single terran just dies when they turtle because they lack his game sense and defensive skillsets (positioning, macro, knowing how much is required to hold, etc). Not to mention tanks do an absurd amount of damage in Brood War to basically everything in the game and spider mines stop people from simply streaming units at you.
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Who would have predict this :S
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Really, Artosis?
Marines CAN'T hit the spine even when they are in the bunker.
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On December 06 2010 20:04 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2010 20:01 Holgerius wrote:On December 06 2010 20:00 iEchoic wrote:
TvZ is so incredibly boring. The first 10 minutes is entertaining and then you can just alt tab away and wait for the next game while the terran drags the game on 15 minutes too long. I hope Jinro can beat one of these zergs in the finals, but they're going to play a hell of a lot better than moon. It's possible for good Terrans to play macro games vs Zerg. It's just that most of 'em never really does it and therefore suck at it once it happens. This is the biggest thing, I believe. There are some really good macro Terrans as well. Most of them just don't have a lot of experience playing macro games. It's just like Random players crumbling in long games.
On December 06 2010 20:06 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2010 20:05 oncearunner wrote:On December 06 2010 20:01 Holgerius wrote:
It's possible for good Terrans to play macro games vs Zerg. It's just that most of 'em never really does it and therefore suck at it once it happens. this logic is bullshit. terran would love to be able to compete in macro games with a zerg. the problem is takin the 3rd. any losses in the early game make your army so small and the inevitable muta harass is impossible to deal with. Thats the problem, mutas flying around rediculously fast and they attack every side of ur base at once, picking anything off not protected by a LARGE group of rines. its just very diffucult to defend muta harass when ur spread to 3-4 bases. PS. thors dont counter mutas...we need a better A2G mech unit Build 7-10 turrets per base vs mass Muta... if you remove their mobility, they're terribad combat units.
wow two inane posts within a short timespan. Ok, not inane, just ignorant.
[B]On December 06 2010 20:08 Lann555 wrote: Macro game - Zerg wins SCV allin - Terran wins Macro game - Zerg wins SCV allin - Terran wins I'm starting to see a pattern here 
yep. Welcome to the way SC2 TvZ will be played for a long while now.
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wtf. If Nestea lose I will be so mad
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On December 06 2010 20:12 PerfectTear wrote:
Who would have predict this :S
ahaha
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On December 06 2010 20:12 tg4u wrote:Go Rain show us more of your brilliant play! *Better for Jinro though. 
Wait, if Rain wins, Jinro will have to face him should he advance? All of a sudden I'm conflicted on who to root for
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On December 06 2010 20:11 UnholyRai wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2010 20:09 Lann555 wrote:
Honestly, ZvT is close to unwatchable in it's current state. It's basically about wheter Terran can win in the first 8 minuts or so and at least half the time it comes down to some big SCV allin. you obviously haven't watched jinro play.
I have. When he beats Nestea/Fruitdealer/Idra/Ret with his macro-style Ill be convinced. Moon reacted very poorly to Jinro's style of play and lost because of it.
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I am wondering what about getting super fast baneling nest so you can blow up not only marines but all his SCVs.
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lol terran is in no way forced to do 2rax allin. look at jinros games, he dominated zerg with proper macro games.
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Interesting! Haven't seen this cheese yet...
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