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TheResidentEvil
United States991 Posts
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razamanaz
271 Posts
 and this is the day when i actually could watch the games , oh well .. | ||
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PredY
Czech Republic1731 Posts
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Xxavi
United States1248 Posts
On November 19 2010 17:43 Obbalord wrote: nope, but genious didnt do bullshit builds like mass phoenix in these games, itr just timing pushed VERY well against tzhe colossi build (standard build) This is funny. So you want all Protoss keep doing standard builds? And how many of those standard builds are there? What, only 2-3? Mass phoenix is far from BS. It's a great strategy, just Sang-Ho suicided his mass phoenixes and also didn't get enough stalkers. Couldn't protect phoenixes at all. I am angry that it's so much harder to get DTs for a protoss now, yet Terran got a flying DT. You cannot be serious. That last game was a BS. Nonetheless, Sang-Ho knew that it is a possibility, should have prepared. PS It's strange that you praise Genius. Against ITR, he was doing voidrays, if you don't remember. Now, that's risky. | ||
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ZerOfy
United Kingdom405 Posts
On November 20 2010 01:01 Xxavi wrote: I am angry that it's so much harder to get DTs for a protoss now, yet Terran got a flying DT. You cannot be serious. That last game was a BS. Nonetheless, Sang-Ho knew that it is a possibility, should have prepared. Any game without a fast robo v Terran is pretty much a coin flip. Blizzard really screwed up when they designed Protoss. | ||
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Xxavi
United States1248 Posts
On November 20 2010 01:20 ZerOfy wrote: Any game without a fast robo v Terran is pretty much a coin flip. Blizzard really screwed up when they designed Protoss. Banshees don't have equivalent in BW, I think. Protoss could build DTs in BW, but Zerg always had overlords, unless they are all killed by Bisu's air army. So while DTs were dangerous, not many players, except for Bisu and a few more, could end a game so early on in 6-8 minute mark against a Zerg just using DT build. As for Terran, they have a scan, and they can also see it, if they want. Protoss doesn't have similar detection, so you cannot just defend vs banshees unless you go one tech path. Terrible. I guess Blizzard nerfed DTs because they could may be attack Zerg easier now, since overlords cannot detect any more. But then, it doesn't make sense that banshees are invisible. | ||
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Obbalord
Germany166 Posts
On November 20 2010 01:01 Xxavi wrote: This is funny. So you want all Protoss keep doing standard builds? And how many of those standard builds are there? What, only 2-3? Mass phoenix is far from BS. It's a great strategy, just Sang-Ho suicided his mass phoenixes and also didn't get enough stalkers. Couldn't protect phoenixes at all. I am angry that it's so much harder to get DTs for a protoss now, yet Terran got a flying DT. You cannot be serious. That last game was a BS. Nonetheless, Sang-Ho knew that it is a possibility, should have prepared. PS It's strange that you praise Genius. Against ITR, he was doing voidrays, if you don't remember. Now, that's risky. yea true i forgot that :/, well i guess the colossi/phoenix build is good when terran fast expanded und u expanded a bit later (so u have a disadvantage economywise) with standard stalker/colossi u get pretty much steamrolled then if the terran does a timing attack with rauder+1ghost+vikings. and megafast colossi/Phoenix is good against the following 2 allins: a) raven,banshee, marine rauder b) 2 starport banshee rines guess thats why tester and sangho play this very risky style. man, pvt is such a crap wheres the freaking patch! :Di just hope the winner of genius vs tester wins the fucking tournament. Im a Fan of both of these guys. Go Protoss Go!!!! | ||
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Heimatloser
Germany1494 Posts
guess it didnt help his results getting any better + Show Spoiler + damn, how should it, killer is fail name! | ||
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zzaaxxsscd
United States626 Posts
I initially found the guy really annoying, but his commentary is pretty entertaining actually During Boxer's games, he spent about a minute just talking about Boxer's fiance: "Jessica" (lol) Kyrix is such an entertaining player. Hope he gets far here and in GSL3! | ||
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McDonalds
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On November 20 2010 01:25 Xxavi wrote: I guess Blizzard nerfed DTs because they could may be attack Zerg easier now, since overlords cannot detect any more. But then, it doesn't make sense that banshees are invisible. If Banshee doesn't have cloak, then it would be quite useless as a harass unit in almost every match up. In TvP and TvT, without cloak, banshee can easily be thwarted by a couple of stalkers, or a group of marine, which are core unit of T and P. It could only be a little bit more useful in TvZ but a group of queens would still defend against them quite easily. I think the concept of banshee is quite like DT; if you don't scout or prepared for them, you are going to have a very hard time. The concept of the units (DT and Banshee) is to make you wary about whether you should get detection up or not. It's basically the same in every match up (well maybe except ZvZ). Well, at least Banshee's cloak is not permanent  | ||
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Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
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ssregitoss
Turkey241 Posts
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Pekkz
Norway1505 Posts
On November 20 2010 05:20 ssregitoss wrote: 2 toss eliminated from gsl cause of one banshee.and now one more.blizzard fix this please. Cus protoss cut corners trying to get ahead. 4 gate expo without robo is supposed to get owned by cloak banshee. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/detailed-elo | ||
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SovSov
United States755 Posts
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Antoine
United States7481 Posts
Saturday, Nov 20 2:30am GMT (GMT+00:00)  FruitDealer vs  MarineKingSaturday, Nov 20 3:30am GMT (GMT+00:00)  Genius vs TesteRSaturday, Nov 20 7:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) oGsTheWinD vs MakaSaturday, Nov 20 8:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) Kyrix vs SlayerSBoxeROn November 20 2010 05:31 supersoft wrote: Are these games counted into the TL-elo ranks of these players? http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/detailed-elo they aren't, as you can see by the fact that the matches are in italics | ||
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chocoed
United States398 Posts
On November 20 2010 07:30 SovSov wrote: Will there be more tonight? If so when? :D Yup more tonight. Event Time: 11:30 KST 03:30 CET Fri 21:30 EST Fri 18:30 PST You should check the calendar panel on the right side of TL. It shows all the upcoming events. Very useful! | ||
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SovSov
United States755 Posts
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adrift
192 Posts
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