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TheResidentEvil
Profile Joined September 2010
United States991 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-19 15:25:48
November 19 2010 15:25 GMT
#241
dont blame me! im new here. im glad you are streaming but your rant at the beginning is pretty ludicrous. I didnt watch any of it btw
razamanaz
Profile Joined August 2010
271 Posts
November 19 2010 15:40 GMT
#242
aww dang and this is the day when i actually could watch the games , oh well ..
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
November 19 2010 15:55 GMT
#243
any chance to watch the vods from somowhere else than the v.youku thing? that lags and doesn't load whole vide for me :l
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-19 16:08:40
November 19 2010 16:01 GMT
#244
On November 19 2010 17:43 Obbalord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2010 17:38 tangwhat wrote:
On November 19 2010 17:35 Obbalord wrote:
genius is the only really solid protoss :/ sangho and tester with these super risky builds.. kind of boring



Are you seriously forgetting Genius' series against ITR in GSL2?



nope, but genious didnt do bullshit builds like mass phoenix in these games, itr just timing pushed VERY well against tzhe colossi build (standard build)

This is funny. So you want all Protoss keep doing standard builds? And how many of those standard builds are there? What, only 2-3?

Mass phoenix is far from BS. It's a great strategy, just Sang-Ho suicided his mass phoenixes and also didn't get enough stalkers. Couldn't protect phoenixes at all.

I am angry that it's so much harder to get DTs for a protoss now, yet Terran got a flying DT. You cannot be serious. That last game was a BS. Nonetheless, Sang-Ho knew that it is a possibility, should have prepared.

PS It's strange that you praise Genius. Against ITR, he was doing voidrays, if you don't remember. Now, that's risky.
ZerOfy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom405 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-19 16:21:42
November 19 2010 16:20 GMT
#245
On November 20 2010 01:01 Xxavi wrote:
I am angry that it's so much harder to get DTs for a protoss now, yet Terran got a flying DT. You cannot be serious. That last game was a BS. Nonetheless, Sang-Ho knew that it is a possibility, should have prepared.


Any game without a fast robo v Terran is pretty much a coin flip. Blizzard really screwed up when they designed Protoss.
My life for Aiur!
Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
November 19 2010 16:25 GMT
#246
On November 20 2010 01:20 ZerOfy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2010 01:01 Xxavi wrote:
I am angry that it's so much harder to get DTs for a protoss now, yet Terran got a flying DT. You cannot be serious. That last game was a BS. Nonetheless, Sang-Ho knew that it is a possibility, should have prepared.


Any game without a fast robo v Terran is pretty much a coin flip. Blizzard really screwed up when they designed Protoss.

Banshees don't have equivalent in BW, I think. Protoss could build DTs in BW, but Zerg always had overlords, unless they are all killed by Bisu's air army. So while DTs were dangerous, not many players, except for Bisu and a few more, could end a game so early on in 6-8 minute mark against a Zerg just using DT build.

As for Terran, they have a scan, and they can also see it, if they want. Protoss doesn't have similar detection, so you cannot just defend vs banshees unless you go one tech path. Terrible.

I guess Blizzard nerfed DTs because they could may be attack Zerg easier now, since overlords cannot detect any more. But then, it doesn't make sense that banshees are invisible.
Obbalord
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany166 Posts
November 19 2010 16:32 GMT
#247
On November 20 2010 01:01 Xxavi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2010 17:43 Obbalord wrote:
On November 19 2010 17:38 tangwhat wrote:
On November 19 2010 17:35 Obbalord wrote:
genius is the only really solid protoss :/ sangho and tester with these super risky builds.. kind of boring



Are you seriously forgetting Genius' series against ITR in GSL2?



nope, but genious didnt do bullshit builds like mass phoenix in these games, itr just timing pushed VERY well against tzhe colossi build (standard build)

This is funny. So you want all Protoss keep doing standard builds? And how many of those standard builds are there? What, only 2-3?

Mass phoenix is far from BS. It's a great strategy, just Sang-Ho suicided his mass phoenixes and also didn't get enough stalkers. Couldn't protect phoenixes at all.

I am angry that it's so much harder to get DTs for a protoss now, yet Terran got a flying DT. You cannot be serious. That last game was a BS. Nonetheless, Sang-Ho knew that it is a possibility, should have prepared.

PS It's strange that you praise Genius. Against ITR, he was doing voidrays, if you don't remember. Now, that's risky.


yea true i forgot that :/, well i guess the colossi/phoenix build is good when terran fast expanded und u expanded a bit later (so u have a disadvantage economywise) with standard stalker/colossi u get pretty much steamrolled then if the terran does a timing attack with rauder+1ghost+vikings.

and megafast colossi/Phoenix is good against the following 2 allins:
a) raven,banshee, marine rauder
b) 2 starport banshee rines

guess thats why tester and sangho play this very risky style.
man, pvt is such a crap wheres the freaking patch! :D

i just hope the winner of genius vs tester wins the fucking tournament. Im a Fan of both of these guys. Go Protoss Go!!!!

Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
November 19 2010 16:41 GMT
#248
so sangho changed names from babybyebye to killer?
guess it didnt help his results getting any better
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damn, how should it, killer is fail name!
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
zzaaxxsscd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States626 Posts
November 19 2010 17:37 GMT
#249
watched some of the VODs on sc2rep
I initially found the guy really annoying, but his commentary is pretty entertaining actually
During Boxer's games, he spent about a minute just talking about Boxer's fiance: "Jessica" (lol)

Kyrix is such an entertaining player. Hope he gets far here and in GSL3!
McDonalds
Profile Joined March 2010
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
November 19 2010 19:20 GMT
#250
So is anyone planning on streaming the next set of games? Or is there going to be no thread until five minutes after they start and three pages of people asking where the stream is?
High five :---)
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
November 19 2010 19:33 GMT
#251
On November 20 2010 01:25 Xxavi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2010 01:20 ZerOfy wrote:
On November 20 2010 01:01 Xxavi wrote:
I am angry that it's so much harder to get DTs for a protoss now, yet Terran got a flying DT. You cannot be serious. That last game was a BS. Nonetheless, Sang-Ho knew that it is a possibility, should have prepared.


Any game without a fast robo v Terran is pretty much a coin flip. Blizzard really screwed up when they designed Protoss.


I guess Blizzard nerfed DTs because they could may be attack Zerg easier now, since overlords cannot detect any more. But then, it doesn't make sense that banshees are invisible.


If Banshee doesn't have cloak, then it would be quite useless as a harass unit in almost every match up.

In TvP and TvT, without cloak, banshee can easily be thwarted by a couple of stalkers, or a group of marine, which are core unit of T and P. It could only be a little bit more useful in TvZ but a group of queens would still defend against them quite easily.

I think the concept of banshee is quite like DT; if you don't scout or prepared for them, you are going to have a very hard time. The concept of the units (DT and Banshee) is to make you wary about whether you should get detection up or not. It's basically the same in every match up (well maybe except ZvZ).

Well, at least Banshee's cloak is not permanent
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
November 19 2010 19:39 GMT
#252
Any recommended games ? Already watched Boxer, was alright.
ssregitoss
Profile Joined September 2004
Turkey241 Posts
November 19 2010 20:20 GMT
#253
2 toss eliminated from gsl cause of one banshee.and now one more.blizzard fix this please.
Pekkz
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway1505 Posts
November 19 2010 20:29 GMT
#254
On November 20 2010 05:20 ssregitoss wrote:
2 toss eliminated from gsl cause of one banshee.and now one more.blizzard fix this please.


Cus protoss cut corners trying to get ahead. 4 gate expo without robo is supposed to get owned by cloak banshee.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
November 19 2010 20:31 GMT
#255
Are these games counted into the TL-elo ranks of these players?

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/detailed-elo
SovSov
Profile Joined September 2010
United States755 Posts
November 19 2010 22:30 GMT
#256
Will there be more tonight? If so when? :D
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-19 22:40:26
November 19 2010 22:39 GMT
#257
sure, here's a copy/paste of my post in the thread over in sc2 general
Saturday, Nov 20 2:30am GMT (GMT+00:00)
(Z)FruitDealer vs (T)MarineKing

Saturday, Nov 20 3:30am GMT (GMT+00:00)
(P)Genius vs (P)TesteR

Saturday, Nov 20 7:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
(Z)oGsTheWinD vs (T)Maka

Saturday, Nov 20 8:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
(Z)Kyrix vs (T)SlayerSBoxeR

On November 20 2010 05:31 supersoft wrote:
Are these games counted into the TL-elo ranks of these players?

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players/detailed-elo

they aren't, as you can see by the fact that the matches are in italics
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chocoed
Profile Joined June 2007
United States398 Posts
November 19 2010 22:42 GMT
#258
On November 20 2010 07:30 SovSov wrote:
Will there be more tonight? If so when? :D


Yup more tonight.

Event Time: 11:30 KST

03:30 CET

Fri 21:30 EST

Fri 18:30 PST

You should check the calendar panel on the right side of TL. It shows all the upcoming events. Very useful!
My life for Aiur!
SovSov
Profile Joined September 2010
United States755 Posts
November 19 2010 22:42 GMT
#259
Thank you!
adrift
Profile Joined August 2010
192 Posts
November 19 2010 22:52 GMT
#260
There are games tonight but the guy that streamed the last two days said he won't be streaming tonight. So unless someone that can access the korean Gom stream steps up and restreams it we will be waiting for VoDs.
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