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KevinAce
Profile Joined May 2010
United States101 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-19 13:09:28
November 18 2010 23:04 GMT
#1
GomTV has chosen not to broadcast this event outside of Korea. I have taken the liberty to re-broadcast these games for you guys to enjoy. I will not, however, be saving / distributing any VODs. If anyone at GomTV has an issue with this, please let me know and I will take the stream down.

9:30 PM EST 11/18 / 11:30 AM KST 11/19
(T)ST.RainBOw Vs. (Z)oGsTheWinD

+ Show Spoiler +
(Z)oGsTheWinD 2:1

10:30 PM EST 11/18 / 12:30 AM KST 11/19
(P)oGsInCa Vs. (T)MakaPrime

+ Show Spoiler +
(T)MakaPrime 2:1


2:00 AM EST 11/19 / 4:00 PM KST 11/19
(T)oGsEnsnare Vs. (Z)KyrixZenith

+ Show Spoiler +
(Z)KyrixZenith 2:0

5:00 PM KST 11/19; 3:00 AM EST 11/19
(P)TSL.Killer Vs. (T)SlayerSBoxeR

+ Show Spoiler +
(T)SlayerSBoxeR 2:1

Official Stream: http://ch.gomtv.com/414
Re-Stream Outside of Korea: http://www.livestream.com/kevinace
VODs: http://ch.gomtv.com/414/28195

GomTV / GSL Coverage
Please visit GomTV.net for exclusive coverage of the GSL. For HQ streams & VODs of the GSL, purchase their season pass.

My Opinion on International Streaming
I of course am just speculating but I would imagine some 95%+ of their revenue is generated from Korean sponsors. I'd imagine GomTV is taking losses on anything they do outside of Korea (such as GSL free streams). Since pro gaming isn't as big outside of Korea, there is not nearly the sponsorship money available, making it quite difficult for them to monetize. GomTV & other organizations have millions of dollars and hundreds of people invested. If they could turn a profit outside of Korea (and subsequently stream worldwide), don't you think they'd be doing it?

If you blame anyone, blame the foreign markets (yourselves) for not backing pro gaming as the fans do here in Korea. I'm sure the day will come when gaming in the west is as big as in Korea, but right now it's not. Money talks. GomTV listens.

Added Extras Between Matches
I assume a lot of people watching know little to none about life here so I'm hoping to use this opportunity to share a bit about the culture & lifestyle here. Between games, I am going to show some pictures / videos that depict life as I'm experiencing it in Korea. A lot of attention goes towards the games themselves, but Korean culture carries a certain mystique that leaves a lot of the world with an unsatisfied curiosity. I hope that I'm able to answer some of your questions and share some of the Korean experience with you guys & gals.+ Show Spoiler +


Note: I will not be re-streaming any more games from this tournament so if someone else in RoK wants to take care of it, go for it.
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Maeldun
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia169 Posts
November 18 2010 23:08 GMT
#2
After that speech the chick did at the GSL2 Grand Final, saying how esports is an international event and couldn't be what it is without the support of the international community.....
epik640x
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1134 Posts
November 18 2010 23:10 GMT
#3
Yes, because they made a business decision for a small event they are being hypocritical. They probably know there are restreams anyway and perhaps they're waiting until they can ensure a lag-free experience streaming to other countries.
Slinkie
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2 Posts
November 18 2010 23:11 GMT
#4
Thanks for streaming this, Kevin. I enjoyed it last night as well as the tour of your apartment. :p
Crt
Profile Joined November 2009
247 Posts
November 18 2010 23:12 GMT
#5
Companies don't deserve benefits of the doubts.

stupid GOMTV failed
estee
Profile Joined November 2010
Korea (South)449 Posts
November 18 2010 23:14 GMT
#6
On November 19 2010 08:04 KevinAce wrote:
5:00 PM KST 11/19; 3:00 AM EST 11/19
(P)TSL.sSKS Vs. (T)SlayerSBoxeR


Isn't it (P)TSL.Killer vs (T)SlayerSBoxeR ?
GrandCrusader
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand47 Posts
November 18 2010 23:16 GMT
#7
Yeah Tester versed NaDa in the ro16 I dont think they would make him play two games.
We shall serve forever.
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
November 18 2010 23:16 GMT
#8
On November 19 2010 08:14 estee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2010 08:04 KevinAce wrote:
5:00 PM KST 11/19; 3:00 AM EST 11/19
(P)TSL.sSKS Vs. (T)SlayerSBoxeR


Isn't it (P)TSL.Killer vs (T)SlayerSBoxeR ?


Yeah. sSKS (tester) played yesterday.
(P)SangHo aka Killer plays today.
KevinAce
Profile Joined May 2010
United States101 Posts
November 18 2010 23:20 GMT
#9
My bad. GosuGamers had it wrong and I was too lazy to read the Korean versions @ PlayXP.
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Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
November 18 2010 23:28 GMT
#10
Thanks for streaming!
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
xAPOCALYPSEx
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1418 Posts
November 18 2010 23:31 GMT
#11
On November 19 2010 08:12 Crt wrote:
Companies don't deserve benefits of the doubts.

stupid GOMTV failed

GomTV failed?

How about they don't stream the games at all, even in korea?

They probably had good reason to, ie too much bandwidth for a event other than the actual GSL. They also probably knew the people would stream it to everywhere else. So saying they failed because they didn't directly satisfy you is kind of stupid.
Maeldun
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia169 Posts
November 18 2010 23:31 GMT
#12
Thanks for the restream man!

*Cheering for BoxeR*

+ Show Spoiler +
Spoilered so as not to derail the topic.

On November 19 2010 08:10 epik640x wrote:
Yes, because they made a business decision for a small event they are being hypocritical. They probably know there are restreams anyway and perhaps they're waiting until they can ensure a lag-free experience streaming to other countries.


Their business decisions are crap. They already have the infrastructure to broadcast internationally, and have been doing it for months. Also they seem to hate restreams which were banned even while their own stream was (and still is) shit. (We do/did it anyway!)

Their other business decisions include charging us for viewing the games. Even old games.......
KevinAce
Profile Joined May 2010
United States101 Posts
November 18 2010 23:47 GMT
#13
On November 19 2010 08:31 xAPOCALYPSEx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2010 08:12 Crt wrote:
Companies don't deserve benefits of the doubts.

stupid GOMTV failed

GomTV failed?

How about they don't stream the games at all, even in korea?

They probably had good reason to, ie too much bandwidth for a event other than the actual GSL. They also probably knew the people would stream it to everywhere else. So saying they failed because they didn't directly satisfy you is kind of stupid.
Yes probably not an economically wise decision to broadcast these to the west. That's why I don't think they'll mind me letting LiveStream foot the bill and re-stream these.
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cablesc
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1540 Posts
November 18 2010 23:59 GMT
#14
GOM decided to save some bandwidth costs on a small tournament that they didn't think they could monetize. Big deal. At least they didn't shut down the restreams. Such a sense of entitlement for some people.
Slayers Forever! Rip. :( - Not the eSports organizer, that's CableStarcraft.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 19 2010 00:07 GMT
#15
omg I can't wait, don't know which one sounds more exciting :O...

probably Sangho vs BoxeR :p

and thanks for the restream
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Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
November 19 2010 00:17 GMT
#16
Protoss fighting.

I want to see an impressive game from Inca, even if he loses. So far, the only things I saw him is good PvP, but nothing impressive in other match ups. I think MakaPrime is nothing special, in fact, he wouldn't be even in my top 10 Terrans right now, so I expect something Inca. Pleaaase!

Boxer is good. SangHo might have a hard time. Again, even if he loses, I want some exciting game. But I think SangHo has a chance.
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
November 19 2010 00:23 GMT
#17
Thanks KevianAce! GL next Gsl competition <:
zzaaxxsscd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States626 Posts
November 19 2010 00:29 GMT
#18
Thanks for restreaming KevinAce!!

I guess you got your stream verified and there's no 50 user limit any more?
KevinAce
Profile Joined May 2010
United States101 Posts
November 19 2010 00:29 GMT
#19
On November 19 2010 09:29 zzaaxxsscd wrote:
Thanks for restreaming KevinAce!!

I guess you got your stream verified and there's no 50 user limit any more?
Yep verified and good to go now.
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FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
November 19 2010 00:34 GMT
#20
Boxer vs Sangho should be an interesting game. We haven't really seen Boxer play against any good Protoss so far, most of his games in the last GSL were mirrors.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Kyrix vs Ensnare a rematch from GSL2?
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