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TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
October 16 2010 08:37 GMT
#141
On October 16 2010 17:36 netherDrake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2010 17:35 tournamentnow wrote:
TSL lost intentionally yesterday- tester fruitdealer and clide lost intentionally - very bad sportsmanship, they didn't really care about winning because reward so insignificant. this is no different from match fixing scandal except only one party involved and hiding strategies for the GSL. clide not getting siege tank in tvt early despite his massive evo advantages and tester pretending to be noob dt spammer.


Yeah, it looks like they were messing around, with cool fast expanding to his third (!). After that I pretty much knew they wanted to throw it away.


The natural was blocked by an Ebay
_Darwin_
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2374 Posts
October 16 2010 08:37 GMT
#142
On October 16 2010 17:35 VENDIZ wrote:
Is it just me who find it provocative that Maka only needs to spam marauders+stim in order to overcome a unit combo of 5 from the toss? Seems so messed up that the marauder can stim three times before he has to worry about it..


Not sure if provocative is the right word there

But it would have been nicer if he made sentries and got some good FF's
I cant stop lactating
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-16 08:39:24
October 16 2010 08:38 GMT
#143
On October 16 2010 17:35 VENDIZ wrote:
Is it just me who find it provocative that Maka only needs to spam marauders+stim in order to overcome a unit combo of 5 from the toss? Seems so messed up that the marauder can stim three times before he has to worry about it..


What unit combo of 5? If you're counting collosus, they were too little too late. When the P finally got 2, Maka had vikings for that. He should've gotten Collosus much sooner when Maka got EMP.

Those who say the P outplayed Maka are clearly biased. Maka had fantastic unit control and map awareness. The P had some good moves here and there, but like I said needed Collosi not storm against EMP.
SplashbackFerret
Profile Joined October 2009
New Zealand846 Posts
October 16 2010 08:38 GMT
#144
Cella on the bench!
Splashy the Splashback Awareness Ferret
kidgonesmall
Profile Joined April 2010
United States309 Posts
October 16 2010 08:38 GMT
#145
celllaaaweeerrraaa
Everhate
Profile Joined September 2010
United States640 Posts
October 16 2010 08:38 GMT
#146
On October 16 2010 17:35 VENDIZ wrote:
Is it just me who find it provocative that Maka only needs to spam marauders+stim in order to overcome a unit combo of 5 from the toss? Seems so messed up that the marauder can stim three times before he has to worry about it..


To be fair, it was marauder/medivac/ghost (which he used quite well) to counter a mostly zealot/stalker/ht army for most of the match. Not a whole lot else maka could have added at that point that would be effective, and didn't have time to tech switch even if there were as low as both armies kept getting on unit counts.
netherDrake
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Singapore1831 Posts
October 16 2010 08:38 GMT
#147
On October 16 2010 17:37 TBO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2010 17:36 netherDrake wrote:
On October 16 2010 17:35 tournamentnow wrote:
TSL lost intentionally yesterday- tester fruitdealer and clide lost intentionally - very bad sportsmanship, they didn't really care about winning because reward so insignificant. this is no different from match fixing scandal except only one party involved and hiding strategies for the GSL. clide not getting siege tank in tvt early despite his massive evo advantages and tester pretending to be noob dt spammer.


Yeah, it looks like they were messing around, with cool fast expanding to his third (!). After that I pretty much knew they wanted to throw it away.


The natural was blocked by an Ebay


True, but it probably would be wiser to destroy it and then expand instead of FEing the really open third base. He really had no way to defend that.
SC2 player for Flash eSports. twitch.tv/nether_drake, https://twitter.com/bryan_sum, http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bryan-Drake-Sum/468389706519567
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
October 16 2010 08:38 GMT
#148
On October 16 2010 17:35 _Darwin_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2010 17:34 Chen wrote:
On October 16 2010 17:30 Highways wrote:
Marauders make this matchup so boring.

+1
Great storms over the entire marauder ball, terran didnt bother to dodge and still overwhelmed the toss. Personally hate it that stim marauders can sit through a entire storm and come out alive.
great game tho.


o.o

He dodged like 500 storms and cloak emp'd most of the templar.

He only sat in the storm after he had critical mass and full contain...

err my bad then. I only caught the last 5 minutes where he sat under 3 storms and still won.
QuantumTheory
Profile Joined October 2010
New Zealand188 Posts
October 16 2010 08:38 GMT
#149
Toss was a lot more impressive than Maka.
IMO bit better than Maka (marginally) Taking blues instead of gold hurt him, also the fact that T has PF means that gold is firmly there unless you want to auto lose.

Toss Micro was also better and harder to pull off than Makas Box stim kite.
Storm dodging is easy, anyone above gold can do that.
But Splitting HT's and avoiding EMP 90% of the time is ALOT harder to do (EMP being AoE)
Overall, toss played better but made bad decisions in terms of expansion timing/positions.
Cost him the game.
Well deserved member of TSL.
oGsNADAHHHHH | NOTHING SUSPICIOUS GOING ON HERE - HuK
vaahto
Profile Joined September 2010
65 Posts
October 16 2010 08:39 GMT
#150
On October 16 2010 17:36 netherDrake wrote:
Yeah, it looks like they were messing around, with cool fast expanding to his third (!). After that I pretty much knew they wanted to throw it away.

He expanded to his third, because TOP made an engineering bay at this natural. So it was either expand somewhere else, or delay the expansion for a very long time.
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
October 16 2010 08:39 GMT
#151
i spy CellaWeRRa ahahha.
Innsmouth-Zerg
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria137 Posts
October 16 2010 08:39 GMT
#152
On October 16 2010 17:37 _Darwin_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2010 17:35 VENDIZ wrote:
Is it just me who find it provocative that Maka only needs to spam marauders+stim in order to overcome a unit combo of 5 from the toss? Seems so messed up that the marauder can stim three times before he has to worry about it..


Not sure if provocative is the right word there

But it would have been nicer if he made sentries and got some good FF's



yeah, some good FF cuts (cutting they marauder army in half) or more immortals to counter marauders would have helped a lot.
stand up defend or lay down and die
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
October 16 2010 08:39 GMT
#153
Awwww no whities on the bench for oGs-TL
@NvPinder on twitter | Member of Gamecom Nv | http://www.clan-ta.com | http://www.youtube.com/user/ftrunkz | http://www.twitchtv.com/xghpinder
SplashbackFerret
Profile Joined October 2009
New Zealand846 Posts
October 16 2010 08:40 GMT
#154
NADA ALSO ON THE BENCH
Splashy the Splashback Awareness Ferret
netherDrake
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Singapore1831 Posts
October 16 2010 08:40 GMT
#155
NADA

but no tlo.
SC2 player for Flash eSports. twitch.tv/nether_drake, https://twitter.com/bryan_sum, http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bryan-Drake-Sum/468389706519567
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
October 16 2010 08:40 GMT
#156
No TL players on the bench
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
Mainland
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada551 Posts
October 16 2010 08:40 GMT
#157
I never play protoss, so this may be a noob question, but why doesn't toss keep a DT with his zealot army? I figure if he kept only 1 all the time, it would be about even in terms of cost against scans, and if terran ever runs out of energy, he wouldn't be able to kite as well with a DT on his trail. If he kept it away from his HTs, it would be a good way to make terran spend EMPs. I'd think it'd be effective to have 1 DT and just right-click the ghost a while before a confrontation.

I guess it would take a bit more control, but I think it could be really effective, especially if he constantly sent 1 DT at a time into terran's army just to kill the ghosts.
Ramble
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden877 Posts
October 16 2010 08:40 GMT
#158
NaDa hwaiting! (Hopefully)
TekKpriest
Profile Joined March 2010
308 Posts
October 16 2010 08:40 GMT
#159
NaDa hwaiting :D
A Man chooses, a slave obeys
ShivaN
Profile Joined January 2007
United States933 Posts
October 16 2010 08:40 GMT
#160
Oh shit, NaDa on the bench!! Hope he plays! :D
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