On September 24 2010 08:58 Stoids wrote: I didn't like what I was seeing. I got the impression that someone was listening to the stream while playing, which is fucking disgraceful. You guys are gold and below players in a custom game, simply trying to improve. There should be some type of mutual respect for each other in matters like that. If I feel like is something that can happen again I'll stop casting live or stop casting all together.
Look, I'm doing this shit out of the goodness of my heart. I want you guys to get better because I like seeing progress. If the only reason you win games is because you have an unfair advantage, you're not only cheating this entire league but also yourself.
I understand the reason HuK doesn't play tournaments with live casters, because the problem is a real one. I'm actually amazed though that it could happen in a GOLD AND BELOW LEAGUE.
I really dident want to discuss this on the open public fourme but it looks like im going to have to. After rewatching the replay multiple times i can see were some of your concerns come from. But to be honest, im really sad, angry, and just right pissed off that im being completely falsely accused. I can honestly say that at no point during that entire match was I in the broadcast. There some strange occurences through out the match, but if you watch closley each has a perfectly reasonable explanation. 1: Flying factory over to base: I merely built the factory to to get a starport and wasent planning to use it after, ive seen many games on youtube were people use factory as a scout so I did it. Complete luck that you happened to say what you did about the factory. But if you look at no point did i intend to land the factory (you cant see the green outline of the destination) i all along planned to use factory as a scout 2: Battle in middle (16 minutes) I was moving my army out to engage my oppenent at his base, i stopped when i realised hes got siege tanks and i have got banshees that i can use to snipe them out during the attack. so I stopped my army because i dident want to just send them in and get out of postion, and i brought my bashees up to my army. Than on my mini map i saw the dots of his main army right in front of mine, i quickly pulled back again so that i wouldent be caught out of position. Than something amazing happened, we had the same thought process at the same time, i realized if i run in there and stim and focus down his seige tanks, that would be a good idea. Which is exactly what I did, you can than see me swing my banshees around to try and help with sniping out the siege tanks. 3: During the cast when my Bob put his third down you said it was a hidden expansion. If i was really listing I probably would have "scouted" to find the base and taken it out.
Though I do appreciate you casting the games for the league, and the help you provide to everyone. You could not be more wrong of what has happened this game, as i was NOT listing in to your broadcast. I think coming out and cussing me on the video and on the fourme without even talking to me first is extremely disrespectful, and it really makes me sad to think that you may have hurt my "rep" for this league so badly that I may not even be able to compete.
Hayako -
EDIT- If i missed any other point in which you found fishy that i was listing in, please tell me
The swearing, nevertheless, is uncalled for an unprofessional.
LOL
Hey, you're the one that wanted to "improve your casting." There's also no reason to shorten people's names when they don't need to be shortened.
On September 24 2010 08:58 Stoids wrote: I didn't like what I was seeing. I got the impression that someone was listening to the stream while playing, which is fucking disgraceful. You guys are gold and below players in a custom game, simply trying to improve. There should be some type of mutual respect for each other in matters like that. If I feel like is something that can happen again I'll stop casting live or stop casting all together.
Look, I'm doing this shit out of the goodness of my heart. I want you guys to get better because I like seeing progress. If the only reason you win games is because you have an unfair advantage, you're not only cheating this entire league but also yourself.
I understand the reason HuK doesn't play tournaments with live casters, because the problem is a real one. I'm actually amazed though that it could happen in a GOLD AND BELOW LEAGUE.
I really dident want to discuss this on the open public fourme but it looks like im going to have to. After rewatching the replay multiple times i can see were some of your concerns come from. But to be honest, im really sad, angry, and just right pissed off that im being completely falsely accused. I can honestly say that at no point during that entire match was I in the broadcast. There some strange occurences through out the match, but if you watch closley each has a perfectly reasonable explanation. 1: Flying factory over to base: I merely built the factory to to get a starport and wasent planning to use it after, ive seen many games on youtube were people use factory as a scout so I did it. Complete luck that you happened to say what you did about the factory. But if you look at no point did i intend to land the factory (you cant see the green outline of the destination) i all along planned to use factory as a scout 2: Battle in middle (16 minutes) I was moving my army out to engage my oppenent at his base, i stopped when i realised hes got siege tanks and i have got banshees that i can use to snipe them out during the attack. so I stopped my army because i dident want to just send them in and get out of postion, and i brought my bashees up to my army. Than on my mini map i saw the dots of his main army right in front of mine, i quickly pulled back again so that i wouldent be caught out of position. Than something amazing happened, we had the same thought process at the same time, i realized if i run in there and stim and focus down his seige tanks, that would be a good idea. Which is exactly what I did, you can than see me swing my banshees around to try and help with sniping out the siege tanks. 3: During the cast when my Bob put his third down you said it was a hidden expansion. If i was really listing I probably would have "scouted" to find the base and taken it out.
Though I do appreciate you casting the games for the league, and the help you provide to everyone. You could not be more wrong of what has happened this game, as i was NOT listing in to your broadcast. I think coming out and cussing me on the video and on the fourme without even talking to me first is extremely disrespectful, and it really makes me sad to think that you may have hurt my "rep" for this league so badly that I may not even be able to compete.
Hayako -
EDIT- If i missed any other point in which you found fishy that i was listing in, please tell me
The swearing, nevertheless, is uncalled for an unprofessional.
LOL
Hey, you're the one that wanted to "improve your casting." There's also no reason to shorten people's names when they don't need to be shortened.
On September 24 2010 08:58 Stoids wrote: I didn't like what I was seeing. I got the impression that someone was listening to the stream while playing, which is fucking disgraceful. You guys are gold and below players in a custom game, simply trying to improve. There should be some type of mutual respect for each other in matters like that. If I feel like is something that can happen again I'll stop casting live or stop casting all together.
Look, I'm doing this shit out of the goodness of my heart. I want you guys to get better because I like seeing progress. If the only reason you win games is because you have an unfair advantage, you're not only cheating this entire league but also yourself.
I understand the reason HuK doesn't play tournaments with live casters, because the problem is a real one. I'm actually amazed though that it could happen in a GOLD AND BELOW LEAGUE.
I really dident want to discuss this on the open public fourme but it looks like im going to have to. After rewatching the replay multiple times i can see were some of your concerns come from. But to be honest, im really sad, angry, and just right pissed off that im being completely falsely accused. I can honestly say that at no point during that entire match was I in the broadcast. There some strange occurences through out the match, but if you watch closley each has a perfectly reasonable explanation. 1: Flying factory over to base: I merely built the factory to to get a starport and wasent planning to use it after, ive seen many games on youtube were people use factory as a scout so I did it. Complete luck that you happened to say what you did about the factory. But if you look at no point did i intend to land the factory (you cant see the green outline of the destination) i all along planned to use factory as a scout 2: Battle in middle (16 minutes) I was moving my army out to engage my oppenent at his base, i stopped when i realised hes got siege tanks and i have got banshees that i can use to snipe them out during the attack. so I stopped my army because i dident want to just send them in and get out of postion, and i brought my bashees up to my army. Than on my mini map i saw the dots of his main army right in front of mine, i quickly pulled back again so that i wouldent be caught out of position. Than something amazing happened, we had the same thought process at the same time, i realized if i run in there and stim and focus down his seige tanks, that would be a good idea. Which is exactly what I did, you can than see me swing my banshees around to try and help with sniping out the siege tanks. 3: During the cast when my Bob put his third down you said it was a hidden expansion. If i was really listing I probably would have "scouted" to find the base and taken it out.
Though I do appreciate you casting the games for the league, and the help you provide to everyone. You could not be more wrong of what has happened this game, as i was NOT listing in to your broadcast. I think coming out and cussing me on the video and on the fourme without even talking to me first is extremely disrespectful, and it really makes me sad to think that you may have hurt my "rep" for this league so badly that I may not even be able to compete.
Hayako -
EDIT- If i missed any other point in which you found fishy that i was listing in, please tell me
The swearing, nevertheless, is uncalled for an unprofessional.
LOL
Hey, you're the one that wanted to "improve your casting." There's also no reason to shorten people's names when they don't need to be shortened.
I wouldn't call what I'm doing "casting."
Well, even if you are only practicing for "casting," however you may want to define it, it's still not good.
Honestly I don't mind doing anything. I'll cast replays, live streams, make vods etc et. Any practice I can get for casting. Also my info is Stoids.983
On September 24 2010 10:31 Stoids wrote: It's more of a lesson than a cast.
Also what isn't good, cursing?
Yeah. I mean we all appreciate you casting the games for us, as having vods > not having vods in the most basic sense.
That said, I assume that one of the reasons you are here is because you want to improve your casting like you initially stated. So I'm just pointing out that people don't swear during casts, especially at the players, nor do they shorten players' names when it's unnecessary.
On September 24 2010 10:31 Stoids wrote: It's more of a lesson than a cast.
Also what isn't good, cursing?
That said, I assume that one of the reasons you are here is because you want to improve your casting like you initially stated. So I'm just pointing out that people don't swear during casts, especially at the players, nor do they shorten players' names when it's unnecessary.
On September 24 2010 10:31 Stoids wrote: It's more of a lesson than a cast.
Also what isn't good, cursing?
That said, I assume that one of the reasons you are here is because you want to improve your casting like you initially stated. So I'm just pointing out that people don't swear during casts, especially at the players, nor do they shorten players' names when it's unnecessary.
It's up to you whether you want to listen to the advice. I don't have any problem with you swearing in the videos. However, if you are trying to improve as you've stated, there really isn't an argument as to whether swearing is acceptable.
im going to have say that it really comes down to each indivudal caster as to wether swearing is apropriate but do know that day9 has been know to swear as do many casters on livestreams but at formal events like mlg he doesnt all i know is that his tactic of "just fucking kill him" seems to work
I also like the "how do i win with this strat? easy just lose my whole fucking base"
I dunno about you guys, but I love Stoid's casting The cursing makes it entertaining and fun to watch Hes not casting for MLG or a huge sponsored event its okay for him to swear Also hes doing this out of his own free will and I think we are starting to take him for granted
I wish I was good enough at the beginning of this to actually join haha. If it goes for another tournament and I'm sitll in gold, I'm definitely joining in.
Gah! Gabeski, something just came up, and I'm not free from 6 - 1am Eastern Time. And I have the GSB Saturday, so maybe earlier today, later tomorrow, or Sunday? I hate being busy...
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