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Sp3ctre
Profile Joined September 2010
United States61 Posts
September 24 2010 00:04 GMT
#201
Hi, could u give me more info about this league I may want to join.
Best strategy for protoss is to mass Motherships :D
Hayako
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada54 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-24 00:21:57
September 24 2010 00:16 GMT
#202
On September 24 2010 08:58 Stoids wrote:
I didn't like what I was seeing. I got the impression that someone was listening to the stream while playing, which is fucking disgraceful. You guys are gold and below players in a custom game, simply trying to improve. There should be some type of mutual respect for each other in matters like that. If I feel like is something that can happen again I'll stop casting live or stop casting all together.

Look, I'm doing this shit out of the goodness of my heart. I want you guys to get better because I like seeing progress. If the only reason you win games is because you have an unfair advantage, you're not only cheating this entire league but also yourself.

I understand the reason HuK doesn't play tournaments with live casters, because the problem is a real one. I'm actually amazed though that it could happen in a GOLD AND BELOW LEAGUE.


I really dident want to discuss this on the open public fourme but it looks like im going to have to. After rewatching the replay multiple times i can see were some of your concerns come from. But to be honest, im really sad, angry, and just right pissed off that im being completely falsely accused. I can honestly say that at no point during that entire match was I in the broadcast. There some strange occurences through out the match, but if you watch closley each has a perfectly reasonable explanation.
1: Flying factory over to base: I merely built the factory to to get a starport and wasent planning to use it after, ive seen many games on youtube were people use factory as a scout so I did it. Complete luck that you happened to say what you did about the factory. But if you look at no point did i intend to land the factory (you cant see the green outline of the destination) i all along planned to use factory as a scout
2: Battle in middle (16 minutes)
I was moving my army out to engage my oppenent at his base, i stopped when i realised hes got siege tanks and i have got banshees that i can use to snipe them out during the attack. so I stopped my army because i dident want to just send them in and get out of postion, and i brought my bashees up to my army. Than on my mini map i saw the dots of his main army right in front of mine, i quickly pulled back again so that i wouldent be caught out of position. Than something amazing happened, we had the same thought process at the same time, i realized if i run in there and stim and focus down his seige tanks, that would be a good idea. Which is exactly what I did, you can than see me swing my banshees around to try and help with sniping out the siege tanks.
3: During the cast when my Bob put his third down you said it was a hidden expansion. If i was really listing I probably would have "scouted" to find the base and taken it out.


Though I do appreciate you casting the games for the league, and the help you provide to everyone. You could not be more wrong of what has happened this game, as i was NOT listing in to your broadcast. I think coming out and cussing me on the video and on the fourme without even talking to me first is extremely disrespectful, and it really makes me sad to think that you may have hurt my "rep" for this league so badly that I may not even be able to compete.

Hayako -

EDIT-
If i missed any other point in which you found fishy that i was listing in, please tell me
Hayako
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada54 Posts
September 24 2010 00:20 GMT
#203
We shall wait for duncan to review the situation
Hayako
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada54 Posts
September 24 2010 00:24 GMT
#204
On September 24 2010 09:04 Boblhead wrote:
If he was cheating(which i hope he wasnt) i would hope that he apologizes cause just when watching the replay theres like 2-3 parts that just see iffy to me, i really hope he wasnt cheating.

As for stoids i'm gonna try to hotkey stuff and put more guys on gas hopefully by the time this league is over ill have gotten better with my macro and everything.

To be honest, i hope some apologies are sent my way. It is really frustrating when you are accused for something you did not do, and the things that have been said to me have been completely out of line.
Chris3093
Profile Joined September 2010
United States19 Posts
September 24 2010 00:31 GMT
#205
Chris over Gabeski 2-1.
Boblhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2577 Posts
September 24 2010 00:35 GMT
#206
tbh alot of top tier players scout using a factory, and i have also stimmed into a seige line, tbh maybe coincidence. TBH i dont care anymore i just want to finish our series
Stoids
Profile Joined August 2010
United States636 Posts
September 24 2010 00:40 GMT
#207
On September 24 2010 08:58 Stoids wrote:
I got the impression

I didn't throw you under the bus. I stopped casting because I didn't feel comfortable doing it. Your rep isn't hurt here and I didn't come and say "HAYAKO WAS LISTENING TO ME." There even was a discussion before games about whether "listening to the stream would even be helpful." My post was merely an ultimatum to the members of this league. We're here to improve and get better. My commentary and opinion are just that, opinionated. I'm not PC, nor do I claim or try to be. I call it like I see it and if I feel the least bit uncomfortable I will leave games right there. I'm not going to try to damage control if I offended people.
*Insert Inspirational Day[9] Daily #100 Quote* | Fantasy | qxc, Brat_OK
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
September 24 2010 00:41 GMT
#208
Oh well, enough of that.

Thanks Stoids for all the great work on casting, I really should have pushed!

I entered the tourney, I'm pumped for it already, and also pumped to face off against gabeski.

For me, I don't think hayako is lieing.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
Sp3ctre
Profile Joined September 2010
United States61 Posts
September 24 2010 00:45 GMT
#209
Can I join in this late? Or not?
Best strategy for protoss is to mass Motherships :D
Gabeski
Profile Joined August 2010
42 Posts
September 24 2010 00:45 GMT
#210
lif3/hybrid, if youre on tonight im down to play you if its soon! hopefully stoids can cast as well . by the way good series chris
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
September 24 2010 00:47 GMT
#211
On September 24 2010 09:45 Iliketukeypie wrote:
Can I join in this late? Or not?


Sorry but the league has already commenced.
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-24 00:53:08
September 24 2010 00:52 GMT
#212
On September 24 2010 09:16 Hayako wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2010 08:58 Stoids wrote:
I didn't like what I was seeing. I got the impression that someone was listening to the stream while playing, which is fucking disgraceful. You guys are gold and below players in a custom game, simply trying to improve. There should be some type of mutual respect for each other in matters like that. If I feel like is something that can happen again I'll stop casting live or stop casting all together.

Look, I'm doing this shit out of the goodness of my heart. I want you guys to get better because I like seeing progress. If the only reason you win games is because you have an unfair advantage, you're not only cheating this entire league but also yourself.

I understand the reason HuK doesn't play tournaments with live casters, because the problem is a real one. I'm actually amazed though that it could happen in a GOLD AND BELOW LEAGUE.


I really dident want to discuss this on the open public fourme but it looks like im going to have to. After rewatching the replay multiple times i can see were some of your concerns come from. But to be honest, im really sad, angry, and just right pissed off that im being completely falsely accused. I can honestly say that at no point during that entire match was I in the broadcast. There some strange occurences through out the match, but if you watch closley each has a perfectly reasonable explanation.
1: Flying factory over to base: I merely built the factory to to get a starport and wasent planning to use it after, ive seen many games on youtube were people use factory as a scout so I did it. Complete luck that you happened to say what you did about the factory. But if you look at no point did i intend to land the factory (you cant see the green outline of the destination) i all along planned to use factory as a scout
2: Battle in middle (16 minutes)
I was moving my army out to engage my oppenent at his base, i stopped when i realised hes got siege tanks and i have got banshees that i can use to snipe them out during the attack. so I stopped my army because i dident want to just send them in and get out of postion, and i brought my bashees up to my army. Than on my mini map i saw the dots of his main army right in front of mine, i quickly pulled back again so that i wouldent be caught out of position. Than something amazing happened, we had the same thought process at the same time, i realized if i run in there and stim and focus down his seige tanks, that would be a good idea. Which is exactly what I did, you can than see me swing my banshees around to try and help with sniping out the siege tanks.
3: During the cast when my Bob put his third down you said it was a hidden expansion. If i was really listing I probably would have "scouted" to find the base and taken it out.


Though I do appreciate you casting the games for the league, and the help you provide to everyone. You could not be more wrong of what has happened this game, as i was NOT listing in to your broadcast. I think coming out and cussing me on the video and on the fourme without even talking to me first is extremely disrespectful, and it really makes me sad to think that you may have hurt my "rep" for this league so badly that I may not even be able to compete.

Hayako -

EDIT-
If i missed any other point in which you found fishy that i was listing in, please tell me


Seems to me you're being accused of doing things "gold level players shouldn't be able to know how to do," which is pretty lol.

Can't make any judgments though, as I haven't watched the full video. The swearing, nevertheless, is uncalled for an unprofessional.
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
September 24 2010 00:53 GMT
#213
On September 24 2010 09:45 Gabeski wrote:
lif3/hybrid, if youre on tonight im down to play you if its soon! hopefully stoids can cast as well . by the way good series chris

To give you an idea, I'm gonna be on in around 5 hours, I'm away until then. Will be able to do it tommorow though PROBABLY.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
Gabeski
Profile Joined August 2010
42 Posts
September 24 2010 00:57 GMT
#214
^^ okay sounds good. tommorow, ill probably be free in the late afternoon (8-9 EST). me and the lady friend are going to get some icecream, and i have a soccer tournament earlier in the day haha
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
September 24 2010 01:00 GMT
#215
That should work.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
flowandebb
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada158 Posts
September 24 2010 01:01 GMT
#216
Website has been updated.
Stoids
Profile Joined August 2010
United States636 Posts
September 24 2010 01:12 GMT
#217
On September 24 2010 09:52 Karliath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2010 09:16 Hayako wrote:
On September 24 2010 08:58 Stoids wrote:
I didn't like what I was seeing. I got the impression that someone was listening to the stream while playing, which is fucking disgraceful. You guys are gold and below players in a custom game, simply trying to improve. There should be some type of mutual respect for each other in matters like that. If I feel like is something that can happen again I'll stop casting live or stop casting all together.

Look, I'm doing this shit out of the goodness of my heart. I want you guys to get better because I like seeing progress. If the only reason you win games is because you have an unfair advantage, you're not only cheating this entire league but also yourself.

I understand the reason HuK doesn't play tournaments with live casters, because the problem is a real one. I'm actually amazed though that it could happen in a GOLD AND BELOW LEAGUE.


I really dident want to discuss this on the open public fourme but it looks like im going to have to. After rewatching the replay multiple times i can see were some of your concerns come from. But to be honest, im really sad, angry, and just right pissed off that im being completely falsely accused. I can honestly say that at no point during that entire match was I in the broadcast. There some strange occurences through out the match, but if you watch closley each has a perfectly reasonable explanation.
1: Flying factory over to base: I merely built the factory to to get a starport and wasent planning to use it after, ive seen many games on youtube were people use factory as a scout so I did it. Complete luck that you happened to say what you did about the factory. But if you look at no point did i intend to land the factory (you cant see the green outline of the destination) i all along planned to use factory as a scout
2: Battle in middle (16 minutes)
I was moving my army out to engage my oppenent at his base, i stopped when i realised hes got siege tanks and i have got banshees that i can use to snipe them out during the attack. so I stopped my army because i dident want to just send them in and get out of postion, and i brought my bashees up to my army. Than on my mini map i saw the dots of his main army right in front of mine, i quickly pulled back again so that i wouldent be caught out of position. Than something amazing happened, we had the same thought process at the same time, i realized if i run in there and stim and focus down his seige tanks, that would be a good idea. Which is exactly what I did, you can than see me swing my banshees around to try and help with sniping out the siege tanks.
3: During the cast when my Bob put his third down you said it was a hidden expansion. If i was really listing I probably would have "scouted" to find the base and taken it out.


Though I do appreciate you casting the games for the league, and the help you provide to everyone. You could not be more wrong of what has happened this game, as i was NOT listing in to your broadcast. I think coming out and cussing me on the video and on the fourme without even talking to me first is extremely disrespectful, and it really makes me sad to think that you may have hurt my "rep" for this league so badly that I may not even be able to compete.

Hayako -

EDIT-
If i missed any other point in which you found fishy that i was listing in, please tell me


The swearing, nevertheless, is uncalled for an unprofessional.

LOL
*Insert Inspirational Day[9] Daily #100 Quote* | Fantasy | qxc, Brat_OK
Fluffy1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States322 Posts
September 24 2010 01:16 GMT
#218
I hate the -1 for a loss lmao.
"I may be an idiot, but I am not stupid"
flowandebb
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada158 Posts
September 24 2010 01:18 GMT
#219
Hey. Don't complain. I have -2 points right now.
Boblhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2577 Posts
September 24 2010 01:20 GMT
#220
2-0 boblhead wins over hayako

were should i send the replays? 1st game already casted. 2nd game just me and hayako.
so if you want the replays message me otherwise ill just send to duncan
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