EPThuk takes the DQ in the semifinals because he doesn't want a caster in it...then in the finals a caster makes a completely unnecessary comment in all chat.
bleh. i won't be really interested in ever watching this tourney anymore.
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whitey_
Canada23 Posts
huk takes the DQ in the semifinals because he doesn't want a caster in it...then in the finals a caster makes a completely unnecessary comment in all chat. bleh. i won't be really interested in ever watching this tourney anymore. | ||
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drooL
United Kingdom2108 Posts
On September 13 2010 08:27 Hikari wrote: I also do not agree with Huk's DQ... how can you not agree? it was a) rules b) his decision. | ||
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KawaiiRice
United States2914 Posts
i knew i needed vikings i only had 3 starports with 0 reactors - those were pumping vikings should have added more ports but i wasnt prepared cuz im bad so it looked like i stopped macroing when really i dont have production buildings it really has nothing to do with wolf also thanks for tourney wolf | ||
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FuriousJodo
United States212 Posts
On September 13 2010 08:36 drooL wrote: 1. i am the very caster that wanted to get into huks game. he did announce that he would forfeit if he was forced to be casted, and so he did. but you really gotta oblige the rules of a tourney you are in, it's easy as that. so i am sorry for huk, i and everyone else would've loved to see him play, but all that came down to his decision. i think he is basically right; the player/caster issues are severe and need to be dealt with somehow, but i think it is kind of sad that most people just follow huk and his opinion blindly. this tourney is based on donations, which won't come in without viewers, and you can't deny that the tourney also has the intention of being entertaining to viewers (no casters - no viewers). it is just rude and disrespectful to the tourney admin and the viewers to enter a competition and just forfeiting and leaving it like that because of rules you knew beforehand. and what really saddens me is that people seem to see huk as a martyr and as someone who is "finally being consequent". whatever the problems and the possible solutions are - in this case it was just plain BM. and i say that as a huk-fanboy and as someone who totally sees the player/caster problem. 2. i think wolf's comment in the last game was just like a *sigh* without any bad intention and i am certain the players knew that. i don't know if kawaiis "afk" had something to do with it but he was tired and certain of his imminent loss anyways. maybe he just didn't want to play anymore. don't be too hard on the guys, we all had a lot of fun  Personally I see no issue with HuK being DQ'd. He didn't abide by the rules of the tournament and as a result was kicked out of it. Why would you play in a tournament if you knew the rules stipulated that you would be casted? It shouldn't be a surprise, and I am actually kind of glad you guys didn't cave. I DO agree that there are some issues with casting/etc - but if the tournament says you are going to be casted, then you can't be upset when it happens. | ||
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drooL
United Kingdom2108 Posts
On September 13 2010 08:40 KawaiiRice wrote: i wasnt afk i knew i needed vikings i only had 3 starports with 0 reactors - those were pumping vikings should have added more ports but i wasnt prepared cuz im bad so it looked like i stopped macroing when really i dont have production buildings it really has nothing to do with wolf also thanks for tourney wolf mad respect, thanks for getting things straight here. relax and lean back, don't be too harsh with yourself, especially not before those games. | ||
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birdkicker
United States752 Posts
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SunDevil
United States353 Posts
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On September 13 2010 08:40 KawaiiRice wrote: i wasnt afk i knew i needed vikings i only had 3 starports with 0 reactors - those were pumping vikings should have added more ports but i wasnt prepared cuz im bad so it looked like i stopped macroing when really i dont have production buildings it really has nothing to do with wolf also thanks for tourney wolf Or look at from the bright side, that you are clearly not bad when you have terrible macro and still almost win against Morrow.  | ||
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
On September 13 2010 08:54 VirtuallyLost wrote: Sorry, but I wasn't watching the stream. What happened? Anyone care to elaborate? Read the last couple of pages... not much else to explain... 1) Huk refused to be cast so he was dq'd 2) Wolf said "torturous tvt" in all-chat during the Kawaii - Morrow game | ||
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PaprikaSpice
United States41 Posts
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
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birdkicker
United States752 Posts
On September 13 2010 08:56 meeple wrote: Read the last couple of pages... not much else to explain... 1) Huk refused to be cast so he was dq'd 2) Wolf said "torturous tvt" in all-chat during the Kawaii - Morrow game How is "torturous tvt" offensive? Sorry, im clueless. | ||
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
On September 13 2010 09:00 VirtuallyLost wrote: How is "torturous tvt" offensive? Sorry, im clueless. Well... saying it normally wouldn't be bm... but he basically said it to the players... while they were playing... its disruptive and for a tourney organizer to say it like that is unexpected and pretty offensive... Kawaii didn't take it poorly because he's an extra chill dude... | ||
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On September 13 2010 09:00 VirtuallyLost wrote: How is "torturous tvt" offensive? Sorry, im clueless. No one is going to shed tears over it, but saying the game is painful to watch in the middle of a game is extremely uncalled for. The fact that he was the tournament organizer makes it even more ridiculous. | ||
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drooL
United Kingdom2108 Posts
you should give this man a break. he certainly didn't mean it in an offensive way at all, and i think he deserves respect for hosting a tourney with such an awesome and community friendly atmosphere every week on his own. and please wish him luck with the girl that has a boyfriend. :D | ||
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OTIX
Sweden491 Posts
On a related subject: Morrow is a fucking beast. <3 | ||
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MorroW
Sweden3522 Posts
wolfcup is amazing cup and he is doing a great job, remember this was his first screwup in all tournaments so far, first one (talking about the ingame chat). other tours have alot more screwups than this On September 13 2010 08:37 vyyye wrote: I'd say that mindset will slow down any improvement, if you keep telling yourself you're terrible you won't ever play to your full potential. agree. been telling kawai this for long time. he admits his mistakes thats for sure, but he doesnt admin his rights. its one thing to be modest but kawai is just destroying himself like this imo | ||
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birdkicker
United States752 Posts
On September 13 2010 10:03 MorroW wrote: so u disagree with huk getting a DQ because he didnt let caster cast 1 game knowing he would get DQ but u agree with me getting banned for 3 future go4sc2 cups because i didnt let in all casters in game 1 without being warned before start of game? hypocrites making me sick --;; wolfcup is amazing cup and he is doing a great job, remember this was his first screwup in all tournaments so far, first one (talking about the ingame chat). other tours have alot more screwups than this agree. been telling kawai this for long time. he admits his mistakes thats for sure, but he doesnt admin his rights. its one thing to be modest but kawai is just destroying himself like this imo can't admit my rights when my parents are lecturing the shit out of me and comparing me to like the best students in my school. | ||
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Wolf
Korea (South)3290 Posts
On September 13 2010 07:14 Liquid`Tyler wrote: Why are there 3 streams of the same match? Admin your tournament man. Pick one stream to be your official stream and kick everyone else out. I do this normally, but today I decided to let Trump and drooL cast as well because I know they have a fairly strong following and wanted to allow them the chance to cast this tournament since they have both asked in the past. I felt that I might have to leave soon as well, because I had a meeting arranged that I was becoming late for, and I decided I might let the others cast for me. As it turns out, I cast all of the finals and they weren't needed. I hope they enjoyed being able to cast the last games. I didn't want to leave them or their viewers "hanging". On September 13 2010 08:21 p4NDemik wrote: This. Acting like that in the middle of a heated game (TvT or not) is just disgusting. I cannot disagree. It was unprofessional and wrong of me to do. I did it because the atmosphere was pretty relaxed and the two players were chatting throughout the entire series. KawaiiRice was feeling fairly down because he felt like he had no chance (despite the fact that he's my favourite player, never backs down from anything, and always puts up an amazing fight; one of the best players in the world), and MorroW was trying to reassure him. The atmosphere was friendly, and I had teased the players earlier saying to make it a best of three so I could go where I had planned to meet someone, but we kept it at best of five. MorroW was joking saying he'd cheese and Kawaii just kept saying "I'm going to lose no matter what". The atmosphere felt so relaxed that when the game kept going back and forth looking like anyone could take it any time, since I was in a bit of a hurry, I said "Torturous TvT" as a joke. MorroW immediately was slightly annoyed by this, and I realised it was something I shouldn't have said. Even as I was casting, I typed it out, deleted it, deciding it was in bad taste, but then said it again a few minutes later. I made the wrong decision, and I apologise for it. This will never happen again, and I am sorry. I do want to say that I love MorroW and KawaiiRice both and that while both of them disagreed with my unprofessional action, neither of them took offence to it. In addition, I will never again make plans on Sunday that might interfere with my tournaments. That way, my casting and attitude will be in no way affected. On September 13 2010 08:23 adeQuaTe wrote: I enjoy the Wolf Cup, but the community and players are making it less fun to watch and sponsor. I'm going to invest my money in another community. Hopefully you all get your heads out of your ass. I hope you, adeQuaTe, someone who has made these tournaments possible for weeks and weeks, even purchasing my headset that allows me to cast with good audio quality, decide to reconsider. Remember, not all of the posters here really represent TeamLiquid's values, and I'll really miss your support if you no longer support these tournaments. It's because of people like you that I can have these wonderful community events with high stakes. I thank you for all you have done and, again, hope you reconsider pulling your support. :: Regarding the HuK situation: I love HuK, he's a great guy, but we disagree on live vs replay casting. That's all there is to it. I respect him for staying firm on his stance about the issue, and he didn't bad manner me or anyone else about it. He just said he would take the disqualification, which is listed in the rules. It's unfortunate that he probably did not read the updated rules, but there are no problems here. Please don't speak badly of him about it here. There's a thread for that discussion. :: Lastly, thanks for everyone's support of this Wolf Cup. I'm not going to stop having these cups, unless it's impossible for me to find financial support. Next week's cup will take place on the EU server. See you all then! --Wolf PS-- Will post replays from finals soon | ||
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Cade
Canada1420 Posts
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