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danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
August 24 2010 18:19 GMT
#61
On August 23 2010 12:04 charlie420247 wrote:
i fucking hate when people say fast FE. i also hate it when people say a player got his FE after getting banshees mmm and a few factory units. wtf gives? do you know what a fe is?

secondly morrow is a korean pro who plays terran what the hell did you expect lol. the top players in sc2 right now are good but there, on average, on par with b/A- iccup players at best.

User was temp banned for this post.


LMFAO so ignorant.

Morrow vs Artosis = didnt like those games, it was like watching a 4 pool winning in a broodwar tournament series and thats not exciting nor entertaining "IMO". A win is win anyways. GL Next Time Dan, Artosis Fighting^^
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
Jayrod
Profile Joined August 2010
1820 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-24 18:44:40
August 24 2010 18:44 GMT
#62
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 23 2010 16:25 dadde wrote:
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On August 23 2010 15:15 xPrac wrote:
From the time the mutas pop it's pretty much textbook ZvT


This.
First of all,i'm not a fanboy of IdrA style.Let me explain,I think that he’s one (if not THE) most powerfull occidental player, BUT ,from what I saw in the IEM ,he’s pretty predictable.
I m not saying “yo man,I m a pro ,he did a nab BO so he fucked up,GG thx bye” because I think that ,as I stated before,he’s a really really strong player,but I think that pushing always for a macro-gaming setup can be very risky.
For me,Morrow studied hard the IdrA BO and created an ad-hoc hard counter to prevent him to go where he’ll surely win : the mid-late game.
Morrow knew that he need to finish the game in the first phase.He knew that if he gave IdrA the possibility to expand,then he would be GG for him.
So, my position is that IdrA is something like a perfect robot :
“I do A , then I create B, then I got C and then I win. No matter what my opponent do.I just go straight for this BO.” And this is true,because if you let IdrA expand,90% is GG .
In Morrow BO and openings, Idra found something that broke his gamestyle and just tilted ,like a robot.
No different opening,no different tecniques.
If he fails his master macro-tecnique,he’s done.
I think that Morrow won with this mind-set.Brake the circle.Brake IdrA set and you’ll win because he’ll tilt.
These are just my 2 cents.


Why the hell would you say occidental in that sentence? This has high school term paper written all over it.
captive411
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States80 Posts
August 24 2010 19:19 GMT
#63
I love zerg but I hate the way IdrA plays the race. His TvZ can be boiled down to

a)hold off initial rush
b)push to mutas
c)push to ultras
d)barge in the front door

Its much more interesting to watch Dimaga use flanking, burrowing, nydus worm and all the tools at a zergs disposal.

Many of IdrA's losses that tourney were the result of mental errors. He gets so frustrated or pissed off that he can't out muscle his opponent that it costs him the game.

G4 of the IEM finals MorroW SHOWED him the hellion but he was too pissed off to transition to the proper counter. Big mistake = fail. In one of the earlier games he wasn't injecting larva. Again, mental error.

When playing an aggressive opponent (of any race) you have seconds to react and have to make the right decision. One mistake can cost the game.

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