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iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-27 12:11:12
September 27 2009 11:08 GMT
#1
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yea they're both sick but fuck my life suae is the sickest management total control freak zerg I've ever seen seriously... his ZvP is just scaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaary wtf...


DO NOT SPEED UP FIRST 30-45 SECONDS ELSE REP CORRUPTED.
Espers
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom606 Posts
September 27 2009 11:39 GMT
#2
I've never seen someone mass so much hydralurkerling and just swarm their opponent like that! Impressive :o
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51613 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-27 12:01:52
September 27 2009 12:01 GMT
#3
god i hate maps like this where you have to watch at x1 for the first 30 or so seconds
or else the rep craps on you
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iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-27 12:11:27
September 27 2009 12:10 GMT
#4
yea sorry for not pointing that out... but most people know nowadays, edited it in tho.
ZhenMiChan
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Netherlands1181 Posts
September 27 2009 17:01 GMT
#5
gg great game ^_^

Studying Chinese~
Shivaz
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1783 Posts
September 27 2009 17:28 GMT
#6
Nice game,

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I don't know can't even say the Toss got out macroed, it seems like he just got ran over? I guess that is the definition of being out macroed
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-27 18:27:32
September 27 2009 18:27 GMT
#7
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Drop, the fact that Zerg wasn't wasting a single unit until swarm and the fact that P was out of position are a few reasons why protoss did get run over. wasn't all that much about the macro imo, until the drop Iron did just fine but after he collapsed...
Alphonsse
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States518 Posts
September 28 2009 03:05 GMT
#8
thanks for all the reps lately
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28808 Posts
September 28 2009 05:03 GMT
#9
crappy upgrades from p
both stays with 1 forge with 3 gas and makes 8-9 sairs without getting +1
T_T

other than that awesome and zerg rapes hard but such elementary mistakes by p !!
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SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
September 28 2009 09:40 GMT
#10
rofl

judging by the ingame chat it looks like the observer (Logitech) was helping the zerg player.
crazie-penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States1253 Posts
September 28 2009 17:17 GMT
#11
perhaps this was another dotori game? (Zulu mentioned it was some tourney where the two players get an advisor or something like that)
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
September 28 2009 20:47 GMT
#12
alright that would explain it.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 28 2009 21:47 GMT
#13
the ob who helps doesn't have vision of the other player
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
September 28 2009 21:52 GMT
#14
On September 28 2009 14:03 Liquid`Drone wrote:
crappy upgrades from p
both stays with 1 forge with 3 gas and makes 8-9 sairs without getting +1
T_T

other than that awesome and zerg rapes hard but such elementary mistakes by p !!

I thought that, mostly, the P played really well. 2nd forge, 1+ sairs and getting reaver damage upgrade could have helped but....

... That style of zerg is just the ultimate scary. Lurker every bridge, scourge obs and follow P army around with yours. So strong ;;

The way he hit the P main and exp simultaneously was a thing of beauty as well =)

I really like that the P had a robo at his second expo, it's so important for dealing with counter attacks.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
September 29 2009 00:39 GMT
#15
Couldn't possibly have summed that up any better FA, that's pretty much exactly what went through my mind when I watched that game.
I was like maaaan IrOn is playing good but what the fuck is he supposed to do, every move he would've done just seemed like suicide to me (and to him too apparently) - I would've done the exact same thing, wait for reavers... but when he finally had some it was all over already.
<3 suae but I kinda hate him too cause he's sooo scary and a Zerg as well.

@ zulu, nice catch, explains that confusing stuff - Koreans do that coaching quite often in practice games (Iron and Suae are friends - so I don't think they would need to cheat on each other)
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4522 Posts
September 29 2009 00:57 GMT
#16
they do it in datori games (dtr) .

It's always a team match, like 3on3.

One team has vision of their player and Other team has vision of their player and your teammates obsing you are allowed to say stuff to u in games. (games are for $)
Team Liquid
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
September 29 2009 18:06 GMT
#17
Hey Jos you weren't supposed to watch this rep tho.
You're already scary enough at ZvP anyway.
Just forget about this, thank you!
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
September 29 2009 19:27 GMT
#18
hm i dont like the p very much. his army control is not that good and the fact that all he does is take his third/forth until he gets dropped is.. well boring. keeping 4 cors in his main instead of trying to get a little map control with them, not harrassing anything and overdefending his third while his 5th gets killed by 2(?) group of lings wasnt really good too

the z on the other hand plays really sexy. killing the 4th with 2 "hidden" lords, n1
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-29 22:51:30
September 29 2009 22:50 GMT
#19
You realize the P had absolutely no opening to attack all game? He tried so many times to find one, but it just wasn't there.

He played really well I think, it's just that the Zerg played superbly, making him look bad.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-29 23:33:19
September 29 2009 23:26 GMT
#20
yeah, of course. but thats what i mean, he should have made like 6, 7 1-0 cors and kill some lords, then he could have at least tried to shuttle harass the main (on the left side there were only 2 lords at the expansion at 9 afair, no lurk) or kill 1 or 2 lurk with dts or whatever

staying on his side of the map was just like saying "uh ok, cant attack. drop me then go 3/3 cracklings with swarm, gg".
and the army control was not very good, u cant deny that. at 17.00 or so when he finally attacks he storms like 4 times without hitting units, looked like panic mode to me
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
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