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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
August 19 2009 17:21 GMT
#1
2 dt's no probe hopping a mineral line.. and a great comeback Check it out.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-19 17:49:13
August 19 2009 17:27 GMT
#2
whoa, that was one crazy intense game !

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lovely statis fields on guards/ultras/ovvies :D


oh well, that was comments for iNkA's game, don't know why it appeared here O.o
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404.Delirium
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1190 Posts
August 19 2009 17:30 GMT
#3
Yes! I couldn't wait for this to get uploaded! I was too tired to get up from bed when he let people come in and dl it while he was on stream and I hadn't found it on repdepot. Thanks for the upload!
seriously next disrespectful comment in this blog is ip ban. Be happy or get the hell out. // SC2 is like playing with neutral-colored Play-Doh while BW is like colorful Legos.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28904 Posts
August 19 2009 17:41 GMT
#4
real funny first 20 hehe
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13922 Posts
August 19 2009 20:19 GMT
#5
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watched it, that dt hopping was just WTF!?
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conCentrate9
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States438 Posts
August 19 2009 22:53 GMT
#6
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The dt hopped because he told them to merge a dark archon, but then as soon as they overlapped, he gave them the "stop" command. Then he just spammed 1 to the other side. Definiitely WTF!? though.
StorMofsweden
Profile Joined November 2008
Sweden9 Posts
August 20 2009 05:57 GMT
#7
wtf no Terran replays...
HeaDStrong
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Scotland785 Posts
August 20 2009 12:11 GMT
#8
been watching a lot of replays, good replays lately

but damn i really respect the observer guys, so easy to miss stuff in replays. lol
petzergling
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
538 Posts
August 20 2009 12:49 GMT
#9
this game was crazy, I was watching it on livestream. Definitely recommend if you wanna watch crazy shit
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Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
August 20 2009 13:19 GMT
#10
Wow. Crazy game. I was so happy the zerg won. But I dont think he could have won on any other map. The semi islands really saved him. Crazy that 2 gate toss still works at that level.

I also looked into the toss' stats. Looks game all his games against zerg is 2 gate zlots. Interesting.
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
August 20 2009 19:09 GMT
#11
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I wouldn't say that this 2 gate really "worked". A little more defense on the zerg's side and it would have dealt so much less damage. I guess it's hard to judge the power of such an attack, though, seeing how rarely it is played. Also, the 4 or so dts killing the 3rd hatch was really unnecessary (should have had an overlord there), but I guess you could call that bad luck.

gj picking off that archon with mutas, I like that
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
halpmehzilaes
Profile Joined August 2009
United States16 Posts
August 20 2009 23:56 GMT
#12
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HeaDStrong
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Scotland785 Posts
August 21 2009 00:09 GMT
#13
On August 21 2009 04:09 spinesheath wrote:
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I wouldn't say that this 2 gate really "worked". A little more defense on the zerg's side and it would have dealt so much less damage. I guess it's hard to judge the power of such an attack, though, seeing how rarely it is played. Also, the 4 or so dts killing the 3rd hatch was really unnecessary (should have had an overlord there), but I guess you could call that bad luck.

gj picking off that archon with mutas, I like that



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as far as i understood it lz countered it in the beginning so he assumed toss would fall back to his secondary plan and just expand but he added and extra gate and kept pumping units which was too much, to handle. it was all in the element of surprise imo.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
August 21 2009 10:30 GMT
#14
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I have no idea how he managed to lose this game. It's weird how good players can have a complete lack of judgement sometimes ;o
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-21 14:42:11
August 21 2009 12:12 GMT
#15
On August 21 2009 19:30 BlackJack wrote:
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I have no idea how he managed to lose this game. It's weird how good players can have a complete lack of judgement sometimes ;o

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He lost because Lz muta micro was just too good. You can't beat 11+ mutas with 3 goons zealots and one archon nowadays ...

edit: beat lol
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
August 21 2009 19:37 GMT
#16
On August 21 2009 09:09 [GMTA]_HumBug wrote:
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On August 21 2009 04:09 spinesheath wrote:
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I wouldn't say that this 2 gate really "worked". A little more defense on the zerg's side and it would have dealt so much less damage. I guess it's hard to judge the power of such an attack, though, seeing how rarely it is played. Also, the 4 or so dts killing the 3rd hatch was really unnecessary (should have had an overlord there), but I guess you could call that bad luck.

gj picking off that archon with mutas, I like that



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as far as i understood it lz countered it in the beginning so he assumed toss would fall back to his secondary plan and just expand but he added and extra gate and kept pumping units which was too much, to handle. it was all in the element of surprise imo.


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It was quite hard NOT to see the huge amount of units camping in front of his natural. If he sent out a ling every now and then he would have noticed how fast that army grew, and assuming things when you can actually scout them is not what you should do.
So either he didn't scout it properly or he misjudged the army size. You really can't say that attack worked so well because of the "superior" strategy of the protoss.
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HeaDStrong
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Scotland785 Posts
August 21 2009 21:18 GMT
#17
On August 22 2009 04:37 spinesheath wrote:
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On August 21 2009 09:09 [GMTA]_HumBug wrote:
On August 21 2009 04:09 spinesheath wrote:
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I wouldn't say that this 2 gate really "worked". A little more defense on the zerg's side and it would have dealt so much less damage. I guess it's hard to judge the power of such an attack, though, seeing how rarely it is played. Also, the 4 or so dts killing the 3rd hatch was really unnecessary (should have had an overlord there), but I guess you could call that bad luck.

gj picking off that archon with mutas, I like that



+ Show Spoiler +

as far as i understood it lz countered it in the beginning so he assumed toss would fall back to his secondary plan and just expand but he added and extra gate and kept pumping units which was too much, to handle. it was all in the element of surprise imo.


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It was quite hard NOT to see the huge amount of units camping in front of his natural. If he sent out a ling every now and then he would have noticed how fast that army grew, and assuming things when you can actually scout them is not what you should do.
So either he didn't scout it properly or he misjudged the army size. You really can't say that attack worked so well because of the "superior" strategy of the protoss.


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im not saying that the toss strategy was superior but as you could see yourself that lz didnt scout enough and thus the amount of units surprised him. :/
from what i have seen lz is very vulnerable to cheese but when its standard hes godlike. dont want to sound cocky but think hes quite bad when things go unorthodox...
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
August 22 2009 06:34 GMT
#18
On August 21 2009 21:12 Boblion wrote:
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On August 21 2009 19:30 BlackJack wrote:
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I have no idea how he managed to lose this game. It's weird how good players can have a complete lack of judgement sometimes ;o

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He lost because Lz muta micro was just too good. You can't beat 11+ mutas with 3 goons zealots and one archon nowadays ...

edit: beat lol


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my bigger concern is why is toss pumping zealots and wasting money on an expansion when the ONLY thing he has to do is survive to win the game. I mean, throw down 3 more cannons in main and its over... Also sending his entire probe supply back to his undefended main when he at least has a couple cannons hitting mutas at his expansion was a bad idea
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
August 25 2009 07:59 GMT
#19
On August 22 2009 15:34 BlackJack wrote:
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On August 21 2009 21:12 Boblion wrote:
On August 21 2009 19:30 BlackJack wrote:
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I have no idea how he managed to lose this game. It's weird how good players can have a complete lack of judgement sometimes ;o

+ Show Spoiler +

He lost because Lz muta micro was just too good. You can't beat 11+ mutas with 3 goons zealots and one archon nowadays ...

edit: beat lol


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my bigger concern is why is toss pumping zealots and wasting money on an expansion when the ONLY thing he has to do is survive to win the game. I mean, throw down 3 more cannons in main and its over... Also sending his entire probe supply back to his undefended main when he at least has a couple cannons hitting mutas at his expansion was a bad idea


This, 100%.

This is what I was screaming at my monitor when it happened (or, didn't happen).
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