• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:40
CEST 16:40
KST 23:40
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8
Community News
SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup4StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)66Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double2Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple3BSL Season 2315
StarCraft 2
General
SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026) How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Awesome/Confusing SC2 BM [Old] StarCraft 3 Reportedly in Development
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Grand Finals Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) SC2 INu's Battles#21 [ 3-Days tournament ]
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses
Brood War
General
RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site BSL Season 23 Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings BW General Discussion Bot on ladder
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro8 Day 4 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 3 [ASL22] Ro8 Day 2
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Escaping Into Video Games: G…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8105 users

Where will we see ZvZ finals?

Forum Index > Polls & Liquibet
Post a Reply
Normal
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
August 06 2009 22:21 GMT
#1
Rephrased:
Will Jaedong beat Fantasy?
Yes (Only in OSL)
No (Nowhere)
Jaedong
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
August 06 2009 22:25 GMT
#2
I hope: Nowhere

But it is likely to be in both leagues...
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
August 06 2009 22:26 GMT
#3
On August 07 2009 07:25 Shauni wrote:
I hope: Nowhere

But it is likely to be in both leagues...

Your picking Kwanro to beat Iris even though Iris 3-0ed his stronger zerg teammate effort?
OMG you nasty gurl
Kong John
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark1020 Posts
August 06 2009 22:34 GMT
#4
Jaedong is gonna double win this sheit. I, for one, will be looking forward to two Bo5 ZvZ's :D
This is real life, where nerds must battle!
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
August 06 2009 22:37 GMT
#5
On August 07 2009 07:26 Kuja900 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2009 07:25 Shauni wrote:
I hope: Nowhere

But it is likely to be in both leagues...

Your picking Kwanro to beat Iris even though Iris 3-0ed his stronger zerg teammate effort?


gom is not a real league and they have different styles of zvt so anything could happen.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
August 06 2009 22:53 GMT
#6
JvZ , I don't think that Z stands a chance imo.
Murdoink
Profile Joined March 2009
Chile1219 Posts
August 06 2009 22:57 GMT
#7
It's more likely it will happen in MSL
SNARF HWAITING
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
August 06 2009 23:10 GMT
#8
MSL: Iris > Kwanro
OSL: Jaedong > Fantasy

So OSL only.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
August 06 2009 23:16 GMT
#9
It's possible in both MSL and OSL, although I hope it doesn't happen.
My prediction for MSL and OSL finals

MSL: Iris vs Jaedong
OSL: Fantasy vs Type-B
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
August 06 2009 23:18 GMT
#10
It's possible in both MSL and OSL, although I hope it doesn't happen.
My prediction for MSL and OSL finals

MSL: Iris vs Jaedong
OSL: Fantasy vs Type-B
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-06 23:26:06
August 06 2009 23:25 GMT
#11
EDIT: NOWHERE
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
August 06 2009 23:49 GMT
#12
-sigh- hopefully nowhere
cw)minsean(ru
B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
August 06 2009 23:52 GMT
#13
Nowhere. It'll be JvZ.
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
August 07 2009 00:05 GMT
#14
In the OSL.
I will be really surprised and disappointed if we have a JD vs Kwanro MSL final.
whatusername
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1181 Posts
August 07 2009 00:26 GMT
#15
is anyone else tired of these stupid jvz jokes? he's good at zvz we get it already
im gay
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-07 00:52:52
August 07 2009 00:52 GMT
#16
On August 07 2009 07:37 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2009 07:26 Kuja900 wrote:
On August 07 2009 07:25 Shauni wrote:
I hope: Nowhere

But it is likely to be in both leagues...

Your picking Kwanro to beat Iris even though Iris 3-0ed his stronger zerg teammate effort?


gom is not a real league and they have different styles of zvt so anything could happen.


Terran historically does better in teammate battles. Iris has experience. Iris nearly beat sAviOr in a Bo5 during sAviOr's peak. He's beaten EffOrt in a Bo5. He's beaten Bisu in a Bo5. Still think Kwanro's the favorite?

EDIT: Only in OSL.
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
topspinserve
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States147 Posts
August 07 2009 02:08 GMT
#17
I think you guys are forgetting that we're gonna see jaedong vs. thezerg in the proleague grand finals super-ace match.

So, I vote all three!
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
August 07 2009 02:24 GMT
#18
On August 07 2009 09:26 whatusername wrote:
is anyone else tired of these stupid jvz jokes? he's good at zvz we get it already


it's not a joke; it's a reality

jaedong is so far ahead of the pack in zvz that the game plays out differently than normal, and it's like a different matchup

admittedly, I think other zergs have been starting to catch up in the past half-year
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13922 Posts
August 07 2009 03:06 GMT
#19
psh people expecting iris to lose too kwanro? lol
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
August 07 2009 03:12 GMT
#20
NOWHERE
dats racist
AlwaysGG
Profile Joined March 2009
Taiwan952 Posts
August 07 2009 03:39 GMT
#21
MSL : iris vs calm

OSL : fantasy vs yarnc

atleast that's what i wanna see
Trust 神教教主 FlaSh | Believe 火心 EffOrt
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
August 07 2009 03:57 GMT
#22
Could be both -- Probably only OSL. How the fuck can you expect fantasy to beat JD.
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
August 07 2009 04:12 GMT
#23
NOWHERE

Hopefully
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
ActualSteve
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States627 Posts
August 07 2009 05:32 GMT
#24
It's going to happen, somewhere.
OSL is my guess.
You are now breathing manually.
ActualSteve
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States627 Posts
August 07 2009 05:33 GMT
#25
On August 07 2009 12:57 thopol wrote:
Could be both -- Probably only OSL. How the fuck can you expect fantasy to beat JD.


Batoo ... I thought Fantasy HAD him.
But then he lost 4 games straight.
You are now breathing manually.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
August 07 2009 06:31 GMT
#26
Both!
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
August 07 2009 06:32 GMT
#27
Nowhere. MSL will be Jaedong vs Iris, OSL will be Fantasy vs Yarnc.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
August 07 2009 07:50 GMT
#28
Only in OSL .
wifebeater
Profile Joined January 2008
178 Posts
August 07 2009 09:53 GMT
#29
Jaedong vs fantasy will be epic! x_x
Villain Terran~~~~~~~~~~
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2358 Posts
August 07 2009 14:07 GMT
#30
im hoping nowhere
ἡ τῆς Νεμέσεως τάξις
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
August 07 2009 15:38 GMT
#31
All > Jaedong
no ZvZ finals
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8179 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-07 16:46:33
August 07 2009 16:46 GMT
#32
no where

the SC gods are kind; there will be epic TvZ finals in both leagues
Free Palestine
Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-07 19:11:36
August 07 2009 19:10 GMT
#33
On August 07 2009 12:57 thopol wrote:
Could be both -- Probably only OSL. How the fuck can you expect fantasy to beat JD.


+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_Id-Ocldho&feature=channel_page

Like that. Gonna be a sweet series.
BeSt/Pure/Canata/Calm - I believe in Doh Jae Wook
ccou
Profile Joined December 2008
United States681 Posts
August 07 2009 23:14 GMT
#34
On August 07 2009 12:57 thopol wrote:
Could be both -- Probably only OSL. How the fuck can you expect fantasy to beat JD.


Fantasy is 4-4 Jaedong. Fantasy has only gotten better since their last bo5. While I'll be rooting for Jaedong, Fantasy winning the semis is a very real possibility.
Wake up Mr. B!
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
August 07 2009 23:26 GMT
#35
Hopefully nowhere...
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
August 08 2009 05:59 GMT
#36
If fantasy beats jaedong, it'll be tvz, and then yarnc's moster zvt will beat fantasy's weakest mu tvz. Then yarnc will win the osl, have a title like his bro, and slump like no other and walk off the face of progaming scene.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
August 08 2009 06:21 GMT
#37
On August 07 2009 11:24 Sunyveil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2009 09:26 whatusername wrote:
is anyone else tired of these stupid jvz jokes? he's good at zvz we get it already


it's not a joke; it's a reality

jaedong is so far ahead of the pack in zvz that the game plays out differently than normal, and it's like a different matchup

admittedly, I think other zergs have been starting to catch up in the past half-year


Wow, I can't believe you tried to actually turn it into a "reality."
checo
Profile Joined November 2008
Mexico1364 Posts
August 08 2009 08:32 GMT
#38
NO ZVZ Final for now my friends Fantasy FTW!!!
El amor no mueve al mundo, ni hace brillar el sol, pero el amor hace latir este corazon....
Mongery
Profile Joined May 2009
892 Posts
August 08 2009 08:49 GMT
#39
only in OSL of course.
http://www.twitch.tv/mongery_tv https://www.esportsearnings.com/players/27699-mongery-
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
August 08 2009 11:36 GMT
#40
God I do hope no-fucking-where because I don't like the matchup. =|
觀過斯知仁矣.
ZooG
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden618 Posts
August 08 2009 15:33 GMT
#41
On August 08 2009 20:36 foeffa wrote:
God I do hope no-fucking-where because I don't like the matchup. =|


2:nd
"Rain, also a name for a meteorological condition" -Artosis
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
August 09 2009 22:47 GMT
#42
people seriously think Kwanro can top Iris in a bo5?
whatusername
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1181 Posts
August 10 2009 04:46 GMT
#43
yeah because kwanro um really owns
im gay
Consume
Profile Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4 Posts
August 10 2009 09:00 GMT
#44
Kwanro owns indeed. Not sure he can pass trough Iris, but he'll will get slaughtered in the final anyways, so it's all good! :3

ZvZ hmm.. OSL only! I guess!
Lomo <3
JohnBall
Profile Joined December 2008
Brazil1272 Posts
August 10 2009 11:57 GMT
#45
Kwanro passed through Flash. Why wouldn't he pass through Iris?
perfecting the art of five pool forever
Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
August 10 2009 14:28 GMT
#46
On August 10 2009 20:57 JohnBall wrote:
Kwanro passed through Flash. Why wouldn't he pass through Iris?


He will. After Iris swallows him whole.
BeSt/Pure/Canata/Calm - I believe in Doh Jae Wook
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
August 10 2009 16:57 GMT
#47
Please, no ZvZ finals. That would be such a shame. Hopefully Iris will qualify to the final in MSL to at least deny a ZvZ there.
csokasg
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary9 Posts
August 10 2009 18:32 GMT
#48
of course nowhere :D
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
August 11 2009 00:12 GMT
#49
calm vs iris
type b vs fantasy
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
August 12 2009 04:08 GMT
#50
Nowhere. But that's just me praying.
Hello
ZeeTemplar
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States557 Posts
August 12 2009 06:21 GMT
#51
I wouldnt even watch a finals if it came down to zvz.. :/
Jangbi storms!!!
NET
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States703 Posts
August 12 2009 15:08 GMT
#52
+1 Nowhere! =\ right?
"Dark Templar are the saviors of the Protoss Race." -Artosis
JFKWT
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore1442 Posts
August 13 2009 07:22 GMT
#53
On August 10 2009 23:28 Nylan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2009 20:57 JohnBall wrote:
Kwanro passed through Flash. Why wouldn't he pass through Iris?


He will. After Iris swallows him whole.

n1. Flash was doing his hero goliath build -_-"
The calm before the storm / "loli is not a crime, but meganekko is the way to go!"
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
August 13 2009 09:45 GMT
#54
hope for nowhere but i have bad feelings about this ...
T H C makes ppl happy
Gumbo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada807 Posts
August 14 2009 13:41 GMT
#55
On August 13 2009 18:45 Sinedd wrote:
hope for nowhere but i have bad feelings about this ...


DUN DUN DUN.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
August 14 2009 14:00 GMT
#56
Well, this poll is now officially obsolete.
BeSt/Pure/Canata/Calm - I believe in Doh Jae Wook
1a2a3aPro
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada227 Posts
August 20 2009 20:34 GMT
#57
Wow, I was right for once.
Normal
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Online Event
20:00
BamsPatch 1.0 Weekly #3
Liquipedia
CranKy Ducklings
19:00
Sea Duckling Open #150 (SHIN Mod Edition)
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 399
ProTech148
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 32754
Bisu 3063
Shuttle 1731
Hyuk 1311
EffOrt 718
Mini 696
Larva 361
Soma 282
ZerO 259
firebathero 234
[ Show more ]
Zeus 100
hero 92
Last 85
Sexy 70
Hyun 43
Mong 40
Killer 40
Pusan 35
Trap 35
ToSsGirL 34
Bale 33
PianO 32
Aegong 28
Hm[arnc] 28
sorry 20
zelot 18
Rock 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 8
JulyZerg 8
Noble 8
Sacsri 7
Icarus 7
Terrorterran 3
Dota 2
Gorgc7423
qojqva1392
Dendi793
Counter-Strike
fl0m2319
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor1311
crisheroes873
Liquid`Hasu588
Lowko450
Other Games
singsing2670
B2W.Neo1372
Beastyqt411
Livibee207
Hui .199
Liquid`VortiX172
KnowMe97
ArmadaUGS86
Mew2King84
elazer61
CosmosSc2 26
ZerO(Twitch)7
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream65
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 41
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 12
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 8409
• WagamamaTV184
League of Legends
• Jankos1986
Upcoming Events
FEL
1h 21m
AI Arena Tournament
2h 21m
BSL: Ladder Tournament
4h 21m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
19h 21m
INu's Battles
21h 21m
herO vs Classic
Percival vs Rogue
BSL Open Qualifier
1d 4h
BSL Open Qualifier
1d 4h
Replay Cast
1d 9h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 19h
Rush vs Light
WardiTV Weekly
1d 20h
[ Show More ]
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Soma vs Soulkey
INu's Battles
2 days
SHIN vs Cure
ByuN vs Zoun
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
INu's Battles
4 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-02
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Calamity Invitational

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Copium Cup
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.