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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
June 04 2009 21:07 GMT
#1
lol what? pvp much in group b? voted f myself, but b is a very, very, very close 2nd
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
June 04 2009 21:10 GMT
#2
On June 05 2009 06:07 Carnac wrote:
lol what? pvp much in group b? voted f myself, but b is a very, very, very close 2nd

I agree. Fantasy-Leta-JD is simply ridiculous.

Poor Movie, lol.
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anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
June 04 2009 21:11 GMT
#3
voted B, but F is going to be more fun to watch
StalkerSC
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada378 Posts
June 04 2009 21:11 GMT
#4
Group F and B and going to be Hell..I can't wait!<3
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h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
June 04 2009 21:12 GMT
#5
F, 6 dragons time is over.

It'd be hilarious if Movie would make it out of that group.
Dylancool2
Profile Joined June 2009
81 Posts
June 04 2009 21:15 GMT
#6
T_T. Am i the only on who thinks that group G is going to be the most fun? I love watching Flash, and Savior.
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huameng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1133 Posts
June 04 2009 21:18 GMT
#7
On June 05 2009 06:15 Dylancool2 wrote:
T_T. Am i the only on who thinks that group G is going to be the most fun? I love watching Flash, and Savior.


Most fun has nothing to do with the poll though. Flash is just gonna murder those three poor, poor souls.

Voted group F, although obviously group B is pretty good too. I expect Fantasy and Leta to both have something sick in store for JD
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Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2396 Posts
June 04 2009 21:29 GMT
#8
On June 05 2009 06:07 Carnac wrote:
lol what? pvp much in group b? voted f myself, but b is a very, very, very close 2nd


u cant vote against (T)fantasy and (T)Leta's TvZ awesomeness (as well as (Z)Jaedong in general). As for (P)Movie hes just an innocent bystander who's gonna get raped
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Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
June 04 2009 21:31 GMT
#9
The only contenders are F and B.
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3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
June 04 2009 21:35 GMT
#10
nobody voted for Group A yet, but on paper it looks really good

voted group F though, obvious choice imo
Hans-Titan
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Denmark1711 Posts
June 04 2009 21:36 GMT
#11
Group B is sick, to me a bit more so than F.
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
June 04 2009 21:42 GMT
#12
On June 05 2009 06:15 Dylancool2 wrote:
T_T. Am i the only on who thinks that group G is going to be the most fun? I love watching Flash, and Savior.

Canata tvt and most fun just don't work. ;(

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SchOOl_VicTIm
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Greece2394 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-04 21:43:01
June 04 2009 21:42 GMT
#13
Group B is so much more than F cause a) there is no 4th remarkably weaker player and b) all of the players will only be practicing the same one matchup
[)ark_Archer
Profile Joined May 2009
United States28 Posts
June 04 2009 21:42 GMT
#14
Group F not only really good players in it ((T)fantasy, (T)Leta, and (Z)Jaedong), but it has all three races in it as well. Loking forward to that group.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-04 21:45:23
June 04 2009 21:44 GMT
#15
On June 05 2009 06:42 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote:
Group B is so much more than F cause a) there is no 4th remarkably weaker player and b) all of the players will only be practicing the same one matchup


You're joking right?

I can somewhat see the claim for Group B I guess but Leta/Fantasy/Jaedong are playing far and away better than anyone in Group B besides Bisu. Practicing one matchup is the exact reason it really isn't a group of death. Jaedong will have to practice vT and vP both while Leta and Fantasy have to prepare ALL THREE

Bisu will steam roll that group B, rest is coin flip.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
June 04 2009 21:53 GMT
#16
Group H ;;;;;;
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JL13
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1384 Posts
June 04 2009 21:54 GMT
#17
I wanted to vote Group A since Lux/Hwasin play extremely well during individual leagues. Effort is on a tear ever since losing to JD in Winners League finals. Hiya... well... I never really liked him, but he's a pretty good player.

However, Group F has the obvious big names currently, so had to go with F. Not sure if Movie can take a game away from any of them, but I expect him to play solid games to at least take these guys to their limits ^_^
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Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
June 04 2009 22:03 GMT
#18
Voted Group F. Group B - close but no cigar.
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MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-20 07:24:25
June 04 2009 22:03 GMT
#19
Any group with (Z)sAviOr is the group of death.

(Z)sAviOr autovote - fanboys where you at?
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-04 22:13:41
June 04 2009 22:03 GMT
#20
Wow. Jangbi, kal, free, and bisu. 4 out of the 5 dragons in the msl in one group? I voted jaedong, fantasy, leta group, but the dragon group will be a tough one. Free has the weakest pvp, and kal and jangbi is about tied, but I think jangbi and bisu will make it out.

Movie is screwed.

And looks like kwanro wants a rematch from stork. Go stork!

And if fbh gets out of his group, I'll be really really surprised.
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PeAcY6969
Profile Joined January 2008
France621 Posts
June 04 2009 22:15 GMT
#21
Group F: Leta, fantasy, Jaedong, Movie

No comment ! O_O
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seppolevne
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
June 04 2009 22:17 GMT
#22
Group F is deadly.
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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13046 Posts
June 04 2009 22:28 GMT
#23
Group B 4 Dragon fighting autovote... Group F comes close 2nd
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Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
June 04 2009 22:31 GMT
#24
wow...
leta, jd, fantasy and movie

lmao if Movie wins it.

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dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
June 04 2009 22:39 GMT
#25
wowoowwo the groups this year are gonna be so awesome!!!

group F is crazy though
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
June 04 2009 22:46 GMT
#26
On June 05 2009 06:42 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote:
Group B is so much more than F cause a) there is no 4th remarkably weaker player and b) all of the players will only be practicing the same one matchup

But Kal, Free, and to a lesser extent Jangbi are very mediocre at PvP.
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MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
June 04 2009 22:50 GMT
#27
On June 05 2009 06:07 Carnac wrote:
lol what? pvp much in group b? voted f myself, but b is a very, very, very close 2nd


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illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
June 04 2009 22:50 GMT
#28
Basically, Stork has the easiest group; FBH's group is doable for him (pure and much are mediocore, forGG is failGG) so his chance of advancing out of his group is high.
Jangbi? Good luck lol he's really going to need it.

The rest are not KHAN players so I don't care. (A shame frozean did not advance).
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Macavenger
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1132 Posts
June 04 2009 22:51 GMT
#29
Poll needs a B/F dual group of death option. I voted B, but they're both insane.
luckybeni2
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1065 Posts
June 04 2009 22:52 GMT
#30
stork really got a lucky group. i am really sorry for free cause he will probably lose pretty badly. its really bad luck if you are able to go up against anyone in pvz and pvt and you get a group with the most feared protoss players (except for stork) of our time.
luckybeni2
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1065 Posts
June 04 2009 22:56 GMT
#31
On June 05 2009 07:46 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2009 06:42 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote:
Group B is so much more than F cause a) there is no 4th remarkably weaker player and b) all of the players will only be practicing the same one matchup

But Kal, Free, and to a lesser extent Jangbi are very mediocre at PvP.

are you insane? kal, jangbi and stork are all right behind bisu when it comes to pvp. tell me one player that even reaches their level of play
Shuray
Profile Joined July 2008
Brazil642 Posts
June 04 2009 22:58 GMT
#32
Group F is ridiculous. I feel sorry for Movie
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
June 04 2009 23:14 GMT
#33
F.

Its not even close.
Group B has bisu, rest are slumping, not even on PR...
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GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
June 04 2009 23:28 GMT
#34
Group F is just ridiculous.

Group A also deserves a mention though. Effort has been crazy good recently, Luxury is the defending champion, and Hiya and Hwasin are consistent Terrans. That's not an easy group by any stretch.
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3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
June 04 2009 23:30 GMT
#35
B, with F and A being pretty tough as well.

4/6 dragons? Insanity. Out of sheer chance, even great players will lose 5 or 6 games in a row. I think the term "slump" is tossed around far too much. Bisu should obviously make it through, but Kal, Jangbi and Free are all well in the running for that second spot.
DeathByMonkeys
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States742 Posts
June 04 2009 23:31 GMT
#36
Group F should be interesting

But Flash all the way!
ZergZoul
Profile Joined April 2007
Mexico408 Posts
June 04 2009 23:33 GMT
#37
LoL (P)Movie
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-04 23:46:40
June 04 2009 23:45 GMT
#38
On June 05 2009 06:44 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2009 06:42 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote:
Group B is so much more than F cause a) there is no 4th remarkably weaker player and b) all of the players will only be practicing the same one matchup


You're joking right?

I can somewhat see the claim for Group B I guess but Leta/Fantasy/Jaedong are playing far and away better than anyone in Group B besides Bisu. Practicing one matchup is the exact reason it really isn't a group of death. Jaedong will have to practice vT and vP both while Leta and Fantasy have to prepare ALL THREE

Bisu will steam roll that group B, rest is coin flip.

I think school victim made some good points so ease up. The level of play in Group B will be that much higher because everyone is practicing the same matchup and PvP is a matchup where one little micro mistake (i.e. lost shuttle) equals the game. It will be very tense for every game in that group, I predict. Group F could be seen as 3 worthy players fighting for 2 spots while Group B is 4 worthy players fighting for 2 spots. Still, having the previous OSL finalists in one group is pretty extreme, so I'll vote Group F.

Edit to add: Movie is looking great lately, too, don't get me wrong. But, he's surely yet to step into S Class territory. He has a chance to in this group, but I don't see it happening.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
June 04 2009 23:52 GMT
#39
On June 05 2009 07:50 illu wrote:
Basically, Stork has the easiest group; FBH's group is doable for him (pure and much are mediocore, forGG is failGG) so his chance of advancing out of his group is high.
Jangbi? Good luck lol he's really going to need it.

The rest are not KHAN players so I don't care. (A shame frozean did not advance).

FBH can't TvP his way out of a Guemchi-soaked paper bag so I predict he has no chance against Much, a low chance against Pure, and a good shot against FailGG. Jangbi is coming out of his recent slump and Kal and Free are twins in that they are way better at PvT and PvZ than PvP, so I predict Bisu and Jangbi advance.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
June 04 2009 23:56 GMT
#40
I think we can all agree that Group C is the group of suck or the group of Stork is a coward or the group of Stork finally realizes that he is too old to win a starleague without an easy path ala July's 3rd OSL.
Abydos1
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States832 Posts
June 05 2009 00:17 GMT
#41
Wow, group F is stacked, group B is a close second though.
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WeakTuna
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada71 Posts
June 05 2009 00:34 GMT
#42
Movie shall be victorius!
Darthturtle
Profile Joined May 2009
United States718 Posts
June 05 2009 00:37 GMT
#43
Movie's taking this group the way Hwasin took the last group of death. Jihadsairs will decimate Jaedong's scourge again.
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
June 05 2009 00:56 GMT
#44
Movie is a good player, he could have easily beaten Jaedong in their last encounter (GOM) and leta has average TvP and fantasy has average TvZ.

Jaedong will almost surely advance, the other spot could go to anyone. Don't count movie out yet.
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barbahaba0
Profile Joined January 2009
Israel226 Posts
June 05 2009 01:30 GMT
#45
i cant believe 27 % chose b on f
group of death is when no one is safe
in group b july will make a picnic well sort of
lol
game over dude .... game over!!!!
jnheart35
Profile Joined February 2009
United States178 Posts
June 05 2009 02:03 GMT
#46
This poll is too obvious
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
June 05 2009 02:30 GMT
#47
lol. duh.
KO_SharpMind
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada277 Posts
June 05 2009 02:39 GMT
#48
On June 05 2009 07:31 Mykill wrote:
wow...
leta, jd, fantasy and movie

lmao if Movie wins it.



If movie wins that group...........no comment just -_-'
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LeperKahn
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Romania1844 Posts
June 05 2009 02:54 GMT
#49
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Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
June 05 2009 03:13 GMT
#50
I don't think Bisu will get out of group B. I can only hope.
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-05 03:34:20
June 05 2009 03:33 GMT
#51
On June 05 2009 07:56 luckybeni2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2009 07:46 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On June 05 2009 06:42 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote:
Group B is so much more than F cause a) there is no 4th remarkably weaker player and b) all of the players will only be practicing the same one matchup

But Kal, Free, and to a lesser extent Jangbi are very mediocre at PvP.

are you insane? kal, jangbi and stork are all right behind bisu when it comes to pvp. tell me one player that even reaches their level of play

That's why they're all hugging a 50% win ratio and have come off embarassing losses in that MU? Except Kal, he seems to be doing okay, but nothing really indicates his PvP has clicked. Jangbi's PvP got good for a little bit, but that's just when he got good in general, it's mediocre now. Except Stork, but I never even mentioned him, so don't put words into my mouth?
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AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
June 05 2009 03:42 GMT
#52
On June 05 2009 12:33 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2009 07:56 luckybeni2 wrote:
On June 05 2009 07:46 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On June 05 2009 06:42 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote:
Group B is so much more than F cause a) there is no 4th remarkably weaker player and b) all of the players will only be practicing the same one matchup

But Kal, Free, and to a lesser extent Jangbi are very mediocre at PvP.

are you insane? kal, jangbi and stork are all right behind bisu when it comes to pvp. tell me one player that even reaches their level of play

That's why they're all hugging a 50% win ratio and have come off embarassing losses in that MU? Except Kal, he seems to be doing okay, but nothing really indicates his PvP has clicked. Jangbi's PvP got good for a little bit, but that's just when he got good in general, it's mediocre now. Except Stork, but I never even mentioned him, so don't put words into my mouth?
I'm not insane, I'm realistic.


Stork's PvP is good, he was almost on par with Bisu's PvP when Stork was on his winning streak (But Bisu still beat him)

And according to Stork himself, he says that Jangbi almost always beats him in practice.

So Jangbi's PvP is above mediocre definately
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-05 03:49:42
June 05 2009 03:46 GMT
#53
On June 05 2009 08:45 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2009 06:44 Jayme wrote:
On June 05 2009 06:42 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote:
Group B is so much more than F cause a) there is no 4th remarkably weaker player and b) all of the players will only be practicing the same one matchup


You're joking right?

I can somewhat see the claim for Group B I guess but Leta/Fantasy/Jaedong are playing far and away better than anyone in Group B besides Bisu. Practicing one matchup is the exact reason it really isn't a group of death. Jaedong will have to practice vT and vP both while Leta and Fantasy have to prepare ALL THREE

Bisu will steam roll that group B, rest is coin flip.

I think school victim made some good points so ease up. The level of play in Group B will be that much higher because everyone is practicing the same matchup and PvP is a matchup where one little micro mistake (i.e. lost shuttle) equals the game. It will be very tense for every game in that group, I predict. Group F could be seen as 3 worthy players fighting for 2 spots while Group B is 4 worthy players fighting for 2 spots. Still, having the previous OSL finalists in one group is pretty extreme, so I'll vote Group F.

Edit to add: Movie is looking great lately, too, don't get me wrong. But, he's surely yet to step into S Class territory. He has a chance to in this group, but I don't see it happening.


4 Worthy players... 3 of which are slumping HARD and barely even deserve to be called dragons anymore.

Jangbi went Stork on us. Jangbi has probably some of the best PvP in the world (easily on par with Bisu) when he's not...sucking. Until he stops sucking then well you can't really say he's worthy to go on.

Kal.. well his claim to fame PvZ has been nowhere to be seen so uhh I dunno. He was never stellar at PvP

Free used to have extremely good PvP but again he slumped like the other two.

Bisu.. well Bisu is on fire and has been on fire since his MSL come back... so I expect him to take that group with relative ease. This is all disregarding that he's AMAZING at PvP

And why ease up? I didn't even insult the guy!
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66202 Posts
June 05 2009 04:00 GMT
#54
Group F is simply wtf

Probably more than Group B
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
June 05 2009 04:21 GMT
#55
On June 05 2009 12:42 AzureEye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2009 12:33 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On June 05 2009 07:56 luckybeni2 wrote:
On June 05 2009 07:46 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On June 05 2009 06:42 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote:
Group B is so much more than F cause a) there is no 4th remarkably weaker player and b) all of the players will only be practicing the same one matchup

But Kal, Free, and to a lesser extent Jangbi are very mediocre at PvP.

are you insane? kal, jangbi and stork are all right behind bisu when it comes to pvp. tell me one player that even reaches their level of play

That's why they're all hugging a 50% win ratio and have come off embarassing losses in that MU? Except Kal, he seems to be doing okay, but nothing really indicates his PvP has clicked. Jangbi's PvP got good for a little bit, but that's just when he got good in general, it's mediocre now. Except Stork, but I never even mentioned him, so don't put words into my mouth?
I'm not insane, I'm realistic.


Stork's PvP is good, he was almost on par with Bisu's PvP when Stork was on his winning streak (But Bisu still beat him)

And according to Stork himself, he says that Jangbi almost always beats him in practice.

So Jangbi's PvP is above mediocre definately

Yes, I never said anything about Stork, but that guy talked it about for no reason.
Jangbi's PvP is mediocre right now because he's sucking. When he's on, it's good, but still his weakest MU.
Jaedong
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
June 05 2009 04:36 GMT
#56
voted b
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
June 05 2009 04:53 GMT
#57
Leta = group of death.

Some people would say it's Jaedong, but they'd be lying.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
June 05 2009 05:08 GMT
#58
Voted for group H. Going to bored me to death...
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
June 05 2009 05:14 GMT
#59
On June 05 2009 10:30 barbahaba0 wrote:
in group b july will make a picnic well sort of


not really sure about July qualifying from group B
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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
June 05 2009 05:21 GMT
#60
Jaedong's always in a group of death, man.
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MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-05 05:40:23
June 05 2009 05:39 GMT
#61
On June 05 2009 13:21 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2009 12:42 AzureEye wrote:
On June 05 2009 12:33 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On June 05 2009 07:56 luckybeni2 wrote:
On June 05 2009 07:46 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On June 05 2009 06:42 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote:
Group B is so much more than F cause a) there is no 4th remarkably weaker player and b) all of the players will only be practicing the same one matchup

But Kal, Free, and to a lesser extent Jangbi are very mediocre at PvP.

are you insane? kal, jangbi and stork are all right behind bisu when it comes to pvp. tell me one player that even reaches their level of play

That's why they're all hugging a 50% win ratio and have come off embarassing losses in that MU? Except Kal, he seems to be doing okay, but nothing really indicates his PvP has clicked. Jangbi's PvP got good for a little bit, but that's just when he got good in general, it's mediocre now. Except Stork, but I never even mentioned him, so don't put words into my mouth?
I'm not insane, I'm realistic.


Stork's PvP is good, he was almost on par with Bisu's PvP when Stork was on his winning streak (But Bisu still beat him)

And according to Stork himself, he says that Jangbi almost always beats him in practice.

So Jangbi's PvP is above mediocre definately

Yes, I never said anything about Stork, but that guy talked it about for no reason.
Jangbi's PvP is mediocre right now because he's sucking. When he's on, it's good, but still his weakest MU.


This shows you how much you know about how mus. Jangbi is 2 - 6 bisu in gom and msl, dats a 25% win rate. That drops jangbi's pvp mu by a lot. Pvp is jangbi's 2nd best mu.
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Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
June 05 2009 05:49 GMT
#62
Jaedong in your group = death
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qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
June 05 2009 05:55 GMT
#63
It's between F and B; probably half a year ago B would win it, but right now it's group F.
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knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
June 05 2009 06:05 GMT
#64
Man this starleague looks so badass.
I am looking forward to almost every group. Not a big fan of group C but Kwanro and Stork are still somewhat interesting.

Group F is awesome yet not.. One of the three JD, Fantasy, and Leta isn't even going to makes it past RO32. Have a feeling it is going to be Jaedong that drops.
lxginverse
Profile Joined May 2008
Monaco1506 Posts
June 05 2009 06:23 GMT
#65
and what if (P)Movie comes out of his group unscathed?


rofl
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51476 Posts
June 05 2009 06:45 GMT
#66
Movie has taken a game off Jaedong. I definitely think he has what it takes to advance out of the group, if he gets lucky.
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
June 05 2009 06:54 GMT
#67
either group a or f
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scrubtastic
Profile Joined May 2009
1166 Posts
June 05 2009 07:06 GMT
#68
group F is insane

I'm slightly scared for JD here but then again I'm not confident about any of the others leaving either, we'll see
Assymptotic
Profile Joined February 2009
United States552 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-05 07:46:54
June 05 2009 07:41 GMT
#69
Group B has 4 dragons in the group, but none of them have been performing up to par with Bisu over these last few months. Jangbi might be #2 of the group, but after seeing his matches against Bisu in Clubday MSL and GOM season 3, I highly doubt he will overtake the Revolutionist. I predict a one-sided massacre.

On the other hand, Group F may have a hapless Movie in the mix, but he is 2/2 against Jaedong. Even in the event Movie gets pushed aside like a rag doll, the remaining 3 contenders will have to fight tooth and nail to get out alive.
So close, and yet so far
BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
June 05 2009 07:59 GMT
#70
Wow.

Group is just...

Wow.

Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
June 05 2009 08:11 GMT
#71
group G got only 3%???? My vote to the Protoss only group
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-05 08:15:56
June 05 2009 08:13 GMT
#72
On June 05 2009 07:03 MuffinDude wrote:
Wow. Jangbi, kal, free, and bisu. 4 out of the 5 dragons in the msl in one group? I voted jaedong, fantasy, leta group, but the dragon group will be a tough one. Free has the weakest pvp, and kal and jangbi is about tied, but I think jangbi and bisu will make it out.

Movie is screwed.

And looks like kwanro wants a rematch from stork. Go stork!

And if fbh gets out of his group, I'll be really really surprised.

You either forgot best or much. But I'd honestly say B is the real contender. While the JD/Leta/Fantasy is a damn good group, movie offsets the entire thing. The 4 dragons in that group are all title contenders imo, while only 3 in JD's group are, movie sucks. If you had any decent caliber player there who even makes RO16 semi frequently i'd agree.

Upmagic in place of Movie would easily make that the group of death.

Edit: I definitely do NOT underestimate Movie's chance for an upset however. His vZ seems to be his best and he might be able to luck another game, who knows. All we need is some underestimating. Plus JD will obviously be practicing more for the Terran's in his group while they train there vT and vZ mainly I wold imagine.

If Movie advances, I think the next likely person would be Fantasy. Just some speculation.
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Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
June 05 2009 08:20 GMT
#73
Group B > Group F Dragon Fight!
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Captain Apathy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States7 Posts
June 05 2009 08:27 GMT
#74
Group B = Club Day MSL semifinals
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MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
June 05 2009 09:13 GMT
#75
On June 05 2009 17:27 Captain Apathy wrote:
Group B = Club Day MSL semifinals


Was it really? I don't remember it too well. I know kal beat stork to get into semis and jangbi beat kal to get into finals, and of course bisu was there since he won it, but free?
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miseiler
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
June 05 2009 09:37 GMT
#76
Voted B because of Movie, but I thought about it for quite a while before making the decision.
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Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
June 05 2009 09:42 GMT
#77
I gotta go with B, all Clubday semifinalists, If F didnt have Movie, F would be way harder imo
The_Australian
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Australia458 Posts
June 05 2009 09:55 GMT
#78
On June 05 2009 18:42 Hyperionnn wrote:
I gotta go with B, all Clubday semifinalists, If F didnt have Movie, F would be way harder imo


Movies shown that he can beat JD in some freak games, so i wouldnt count him out. this poll was pretty hard imo, so many good players - but i think group F is the group of death.
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FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6173 Posts
June 05 2009 09:58 GMT
#79
Group F

B is close but Bisu and Jangbi PvP are so strong i dont see one of them lose to the 2 others
n_n
fnaticNoname
Profile Joined January 2008
India858 Posts
June 05 2009 11:56 GMT
#80
Group F
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51476 Posts
June 05 2009 12:16 GMT
#81
On June 05 2009 18:13 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2009 17:27 Captain Apathy wrote:
Group B = Club Day MSL semifinals


Was it really? I don't remember it too well. I know kal beat stork to get into semis and jangbi beat kal to get into finals, and of course bisu was there since he won it, but free?


Free beat Jaedong to get to the semi's where he got raped by Bisu.
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Bifur
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Russian Federation1208 Posts
June 05 2009 13:25 GMT
#82
Predictions

Group A: (Z)EffOrt and (T)Hwasin
Group B: (P)Bisu and (P)JangBi
Group C: (P)Stork and (Z)Kwanro
Group D: (T)Sea and (T)sKyHigh (this group will be a grave for zergs and their hopes)
Group E: (T)NaDa and (T)Iris
Group F: (T)Leta and (Z)Jaedong
Group G: (T)Flash and (Z)sAviOr
Group H: (P)Pure and (P)Much (toss fest)
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Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
June 05 2009 13:27 GMT
#83
Voted B for the sheer consistency across the board. Woulda voted F, but Movie sucks.
God Bless
KnightOfNi
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1508 Posts
June 05 2009 14:36 GMT
#84
Oh god Group F is ridiculous. 2 of top 3 terrans (2 and 3 imo), top zerg and movie (lol). Poor, poor movie. Looks like CJ is going to lose one right off the bat .
RIP eSTRO :(
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
June 05 2009 14:51 GMT
#85
On June 05 2009 06:15 Dylancool2 wrote:
T_T. Am i the only on who thinks that group G is going to be the most fun? I love watching Flash, and Savior.


canata in a group with 2 other terrans.
fun? i think not.
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rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
June 05 2009 15:35 GMT
#86
go leta!! I know you can make it out of group f over that arrogant bastard fantasy T_T I was so mad when watching the group selections...
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Vanimar
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
220 Posts
June 05 2009 17:00 GMT
#87
I voted Group F. The Question is, who will go on? Leta or Fantasy?
Basically I think if Leta pulls himself together he will do it, but it might be some heavy, legendary war between those two exceptional player.
As for Jaedong and Movie... Jaedong will just take his swarm an massacre everything on his way, leaving merely a part Leta and Fantasys soul alive to fight against each other. Movie will be consumed entirely and then stomped by either Terrans to the point of no return.

Of course that is only my opinion, but if you ask me, Id rather not serve as a unit under Movie these days :D
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d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-05 17:48:39
June 05 2009 17:47 GMT
#88
wtf? Clearly G.

Savior + Canata will make it EZ, Flash who?
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pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
June 05 2009 18:40 GMT
#89
voted F but after some thinking i think B is actually more deadly, as from group B 2 at least A-Class players are guaranteed to drop but from F only 1
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Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
June 05 2009 18:47 GMT
#90
First I was going for the jaedong-fantasy combo but then I noticed the dragons clumped.. can't get any deadlier than that!
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
June 05 2009 21:22 GMT
#91
group F

followed by group B
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-05 22:33:23
June 05 2009 22:28 GMT
#92
On June 05 2009 14:39 MuffinDude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2009 13:21 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On June 05 2009 12:42 AzureEye wrote:
On June 05 2009 12:33 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On June 05 2009 07:56 luckybeni2 wrote:
On June 05 2009 07:46 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On June 05 2009 06:42 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote:
Group B is so much more than F cause a) there is no 4th remarkably weaker player and b) all of the players will only be practicing the same one matchup

But Kal, Free, and to a lesser extent Jangbi are very mediocre at PvP.

are you insane? kal, jangbi and stork are all right behind bisu when it comes to pvp. tell me one player that even reaches their level of play

That's why they're all hugging a 50% win ratio and have come off embarassing losses in that MU? Except Kal, he seems to be doing okay, but nothing really indicates his PvP has clicked. Jangbi's PvP got good for a little bit, but that's just when he got good in general, it's mediocre now. Except Stork, but I never even mentioned him, so don't put words into my mouth?
I'm not insane, I'm realistic.


Stork's PvP is good, he was almost on par with Bisu's PvP when Stork was on his winning streak (But Bisu still beat him)

And according to Stork himself, he says that Jangbi almost always beats him in practice.

So Jangbi's PvP is above mediocre definately

Yes, I never said anything about Stork, but that guy talked it about for no reason.
Jangbi's PvP is mediocre right now because he's sucking. When he's on, it's good, but still his weakest MU.


This shows you how much you know about how mus. Jangbi is 2 - 6 bisu in gom and msl, dats a 25% win rate. That drops jangbi's pvp mu by a lot. Pvp is jangbi's 2nd best mu.

All the other dragons Bisu faced during ClubDay MSL went 1-3 against him. That drops their win rates too. It's kinda pointless to judge a person's PvP by their record vs Bisu. Jangbi's PvP right now is not good. And it is his weakest MU, his PvT and PvZ are stronger. Obviously, his PvP was really good and still can be again, but what's the point of talking about "ifs". Right now it's hovering just above mediocrity. And oh, I'm not a khan or bisu fanboy,
On June 05 2009 14:44 MuffinDude wrote: So I'm probably looking at this more objectively than you r.


Jaedong
SerpentFlame
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
415 Posts
June 05 2009 22:46 GMT
#93
On June 06 2009 07:28 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2009 14:39 MuffinDude wrote:
On June 05 2009 13:21 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On June 05 2009 12:42 AzureEye wrote:
On June 05 2009 12:33 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On June 05 2009 07:56 luckybeni2 wrote:
On June 05 2009 07:46 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On June 05 2009 06:42 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote:
Group B is so much more than F cause a) there is no 4th remarkably weaker player and b) all of the players will only be practicing the same one matchup

But Kal, Free, and to a lesser extent Jangbi are very mediocre at PvP.

are you insane? kal, jangbi and stork are all right behind bisu when it comes to pvp. tell me one player that even reaches their level of play

That's why they're all hugging a 50% win ratio and have come off embarassing losses in that MU? Except Kal, he seems to be doing okay, but nothing really indicates his PvP has clicked. Jangbi's PvP got good for a little bit, but that's just when he got good in general, it's mediocre now. Except Stork, but I never even mentioned him, so don't put words into my mouth?
I'm not insane, I'm realistic.


Stork's PvP is good, he was almost on par with Bisu's PvP when Stork was on his winning streak (But Bisu still beat him)

And according to Stork himself, he says that Jangbi almost always beats him in practice.

So Jangbi's PvP is above mediocre definately

Yes, I never said anything about Stork, but that guy talked it about for no reason.
Jangbi's PvP is mediocre right now because he's sucking. When he's on, it's good, but still his weakest MU.


This shows you how much you know about how mus. Jangbi is 2 - 6 bisu in gom and msl, dats a 25% win rate. That drops jangbi's pvp mu by a lot. Pvp is jangbi's 2nd best mu.

All the other dragons Bisu faced during ClubDay MSL went 1-3 against him. That drops their win rates too. It's kinda pointless to judge a person's PvP by their record vs Bisu. Jangbi's PvP right now is not good. And it is his weakest MU, his PvT and PvZ are stronger. Obviously, his PvP was really good and still can be again, but what's the point of talking about "ifs". Right now it's hovering just above mediocrity. And oh, I'm not a khan or bisu fanboy,
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2009 14:44 MuffinDude wrote: So I'm probably looking at this more objectively than you r.



Jangbi's PvZ, while strong and posting a solid record, is completely untested against any top tier zerg talent (most of his wins come from Yarnc). His PvP is pretty good in comparison to that matchup, although jangbi's PvZ is pretty irrelevant here.

As for Kal and Free for group B... Kal and free aren't in the best of form at the moment (free has a losing record in proleague in week 4 and week 5) and both of them don't even have a 50 percent win record v P in their lifetime careers, including the time when they were actually formidable (even BackHo and Pure reach the 50 percent mark). For these reasons, I strongly suggest that group F is faraway more deadly; in fact, Movie's recent record and play suggest he might be more powerful than free at the moment (Following the Winners League, Movie is 6-7 against skilled players with wins over the powerful Jaedong and By.Hero, while Free is 6-8 with his strongest unimpressive wins over Inter.Mind and HoeJJa).
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
June 05 2009 22:53 GMT
#94
Okay, I guess Jangbi's vZ is weaker than his vP. But the original point is that right now his vP is just above mediocre, and not all that impressive.
Jaedong
Engdrew
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States890 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-05 23:10:41
June 05 2009 23:10 GMT
#95
Predictions:

Group A: (Z)Luxury, (Z)EffOrt
Group B: (P)JangBi, (P)Bisu
Group C: (P)Stork, (Z)Kwanro
Group D: (T)sKyHigh, (Z)ZerO
Group E: (T)NaDa, (P)Horang2
Group F: (T)Leta, (Z)Jaedong
Group G: (Z)sAviOr, (T)Flash
Group H: (P)Much, (P)Pure
.
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
June 06 2009 00:12 GMT
#96
F, hands down. So looking forward to those matches. Go Movie.
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casshern
Profile Joined August 2007
United States29 Posts
June 06 2009 00:23 GMT
#97
easiest poll ever. jaedong in any group is almost auto win. throw in leta... duh. then fantasy? gg. group b is a distant 2nd. bisu's all they got. jangbi? hahaha.
Thats a lot of NUTS!
JoMal
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Trinidad/Tobago1177 Posts
June 06 2009 02:00 GMT
#98
Leta and fantasy are coming out of that group !
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MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-06 03:57:38
June 06 2009 03:50 GMT
#99
On June 06 2009 07:53 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Okay, I guess Jangbi's vZ is weaker than his vP. But the original point is that right now his vP is just above mediocre, and not all that impressive.


True that, but because there arn't many players who are good at pvp (of the 6 dragons, the only one that can beat him now is bisu, stork overall has better pvp, but stork will never beat jangbi, kal and free's pvp were never that good and best is completely out of the picture) jangbi probably has the 2nd best pvp in this msl tied with stork, just because even though stork will lose to jangbi, he'll still have a higher chance of beating every other toss.

On June 06 2009 09:23 casshern wrote:
easiest poll ever. jaedong in any group is almost auto win. throw in leta... duh. then fantasy? gg. group b is a distant 2nd. bisu's all they got. jangbi? hahaha.


Jangbi will rip apart leta and fantasy in a box anyday.
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
June 06 2009 04:02 GMT
#100
It all depends on MUs, it's good for Jangbi that since Best is sucking right now, no one can really threaten him in PvP besides Bisu even if he's playing below his standards.
Jaedong
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Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
June 06 2009 04:10 GMT
#101
B and F are insane wtf
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
June 06 2009 04:20 GMT
#102
I'm really scared for Jaedong tbh. Yes he's fantastic, but his strength shows through the most in series play, and it wouldn't be so hard to see him losing a couple games in a row to the likes of Fantasy and Leta (and Movie)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Lhyviathan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Australia975 Posts
June 06 2009 05:20 GMT
#103
Before I voted, I expected that F would be leading, followed by B.

... Yep.
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GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
June 06 2009 10:44 GMT
#104
The thing with group F is that I can totally see Movie plowing Fantasy and Leta. Especially Leta.
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Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
June 06 2009 13:31 GMT
#105
defining the "group of death" as the group where i cant predict who will advance, i chose Group H: fOrGG, Much, firebathero, Pure as the "group of death"
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Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
June 06 2009 14:02 GMT
#106
On June 06 2009 22:31 Heimatloser wrote:
defining the "group of death" as the group where i cant predict who will advance, i chose Group H: fOrGG, Much, firebathero, Pure as the "group of death"


See, for most people "group of death" means the group in which ANYONE who advances is scary as hell to have to play against, not "group I can't predict". Redefining terms to suit yourself is kind of a silly way to approach a general poll.
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ThunderGod
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
New Zealand897 Posts
June 06 2009 15:27 GMT
#107
Wow. MSL has like half as many zergs as OSL.

Group G: Canata and go.go advance. You heard it <-- first
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MutaDoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1163 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-06 17:28:36
June 06 2009 17:27 GMT
#108
On June 05 2009 06:10 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2009 06:07 Carnac wrote:
lol what? pvp much in group b? voted f myself, but b is a very, very, very close 2nd

I agree. Fantasy-Leta-JD is simply ridiculous.

Poor Movie, lol.


I hope Movie makes it out :D

On June 07 2009 00:27 ThunderGod wrote:
Wow. MSL has like half as many zergs as OSL.

Group G: Canata and go.go advance. You heard it <-- first


Ballsy claim, but I'd support that :D
[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
June 06 2009 20:11 GMT
#109
voted F but B is also very scary
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
June 06 2009 22:12 GMT
#110
Jaedong>Leta=Fantasy and Movie...could rape....not T_T
Jaedong :3
gk_ender
Profile Joined October 2008
United States717 Posts
June 07 2009 03:01 GMT
#111
was group b made to get rid of the toss real fast lol
Taek Bang
gk_ender
Profile Joined October 2008
United States717 Posts
June 07 2009 03:09 GMT
#112
was group b made to get rid of the toss real fast lol
Taek Bang
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
June 07 2009 04:19 GMT
#113
On June 07 2009 12:09 gk_ender wrote:
was group b made to get rid of the toss real fast lol


The entire reason group B formed was because in the beginning, Bisu claimed himself to be the best Dragon / Protoss in front of all the gamers. (What a pimp) Anyway, Jangbi wanted to teach Bisu a lesson so he moved Free and Kal and himself into Bisu's group (To try to gang up on Bisu)

But sadly, Free was bothered because he knew that the realistic result of that group is Bisu and Jangbi advancing at the cost of Free and Kal.

I cannot see Bisu getting eliminated in group B.
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Assymptotic
Profile Joined February 2009
United States552 Posts
June 07 2009 04:53 GMT
#114
On June 07 2009 13:19 AzureEye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2009 12:09 gk_ender wrote:
was group b made to get rid of the toss real fast lol


The entire reason group B formed was because in the beginning, Bisu claimed himself to be the best Dragon / Protoss in front of all the gamers. (What a pimp) Anyway, Jangbi wanted to teach Bisu a lesson so he moved Free and Kal and himself into Bisu's group (To try to gang up on Bisu)

But sadly, Free was bothered because he knew that the realistic result of that group is Bisu and Jangbi advancing at the cost of Free and Kal.

I cannot see Bisu getting eliminated in group B.


Interesting. If that was the case, how come Stork wasn't pushed into group B? I recall reading an article here where Bisu considered Stork a rival of his. Stork is 8-7 against Bisu so it would have made for awesome mirror matches.
So close, and yet so far
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
June 07 2009 05:00 GMT
#115
Because...Stork is one of the eight seeds so he HAS to be in a different group than Jangbi?
Jaedong
Assymptotic
Profile Joined February 2009
United States552 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-07 05:17:03
June 07 2009 05:16 GMT
#116
^Ah, gottcha.
So close, and yet so far
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
June 07 2009 09:11 GMT
#117
F by far

I discount B because Free & Kal haven't done much and Jangbi slumped post-MSL

in F, Jaedong, Leta, and Fantasy are still playing at a high level
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Profile Joined November 2008
United States88 Posts
June 07 2009 09:56 GMT
#118
Hard decision... but I'm with F.
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[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-07 10:14:09
June 07 2009 09:58 GMT
#119
Group F:

Leta, Fantasy, Jaedong, Movie

Poor movie, but at least he has 2 Terran. Don't discount Movie out. He is definitely a wildcard.
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nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
June 07 2009 10:52 GMT
#120
group f is nasty, even movie isn't a bad player so i definitely expect the highest level games from there.
Kyo Yuy
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1286 Posts
June 07 2009 11:43 GMT
#121
For epic lulz I would like to see neither Jaedong nor Bisu making it out of their groups, kinda like a repeat of LostSaga :D

Since there are no best-of series at this point, it's hard to predict who will ACTUALLY make it out, especially when anyone could decide to cheese someone else at any point. There are definitely clear favorites, but in the MSL RO32 I wouldn't put it past any player to come out with an unexpected upset.
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.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
June 07 2009 16:58 GMT
#122
group f is fierce, but GOD it ain't.

movie's in there where he doesn't belong
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Meretricious
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada161 Posts
June 07 2009 17:30 GMT
#123
Group F. I expect Movie to be beaten up, bloodied up, strangled and tossed in a gutter. Then it should be close between Fantasy,Leta, and JD.
Looking forward to a Fantasy, JD rematch!
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zazen
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Brazil695 Posts
June 07 2009 17:58 GMT
#124
Just look att he Power Rank....
No doubt group F is the group of death!
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
June 07 2009 18:09 GMT
#125
Movie better be practicing like crazy.

Nada looks like he's going to qualify and play again ^^ Good luck Nada.
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parkin
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
1080 Posts
June 07 2009 23:24 GMT
#126
looking most forward to F and D
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DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-08 01:05:14
June 08 2009 01:04 GMT
#127
Am I the only one who thinks Leta is kinda terrible?
Stupid post, I don't mean terrible, but i think he will choke. Just strikes me as a weak league player.
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SerpentFlame
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
415 Posts
June 08 2009 02:51 GMT
#128
On June 08 2009 10:04 DamageControL wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks Leta is kinda terrible?
Stupid post, I don't mean terrible, but i think he will choke. Just strikes me as a weak league player.

I don't know, his TvZ style is nigh unstoppable; he can mix things up with mech, twoportwraith, and bionic incredibly effectively, and his TvT is solid too; even in his starleague run last season, he did pretty remarkably despite a few weak spots against luxury and the OSL tiebreaker.


Personally I think he might actually find v Movie to be the hardest match here.
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shikushiku
Profile Joined March 2008
Australia41 Posts
June 08 2009 02:51 GMT
#129
sucha contrast, 4 dragons in 2nd toughest group...stork in the weakest
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
June 08 2009 04:16 GMT
#130
On June 08 2009 10:04 DamageControL wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks Leta is kinda terrible?
Stupid post, I don't mean terrible, but i think he will choke. Just strikes me as a weak league player.

I think it's just his rap. He has known to perform poorly (for him) under individual league pressure in the past.
Jaedong
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
June 08 2009 09:27 GMT
#131
B...
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nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
June 08 2009 11:18 GMT
#132
Bisu and Jangbi simply stand out in my opinion. So I'm voting for F, I don't know what Movie is thinking right now. "I'm so screwed"? Possibly =D
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panda_inc
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia170 Posts
June 08 2009 12:27 GMT
#133
if movie made out of this group he'll be popular like backho
GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-08 15:35:55
June 08 2009 15:35 GMT
#134
Group B: (P)JangBi, (P)Bisu, free, (P)Kal

really insane
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Profile Joined February 2008
Canada88 Posts
June 08 2009 17:48 GMT
#135
Gotta be group F, everyone in that group is a contender in my opinion. Leta and Fantasy are within Movie's reach PvT and Jaedong has played Movie enough lately to show that Movie can hang with him for a single game.
Not a big fan of Nada. There, I said it.
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
June 08 2009 19:05 GMT
#136
On June 08 2009 10:04 DamageControL wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks Leta is kinda terrible?
Stupid post, I don't mean terrible, but i think he will choke. Just strikes me as a weak league player.
I disagree with that. He did well in the last MSL, right? When he got knocked out of last season, he started playing badly in proleague too, and now he's back to a pretty strong level.

So, I think that even though he isn't as good as JD or Bisu right now, it's not because he's weak in individual leagues or something.

Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
June 08 2009 19:06 GMT
#137
I just realized: If you put the players in group H or G in their primes, that would be the group of death.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
June 08 2009 19:15 GMT
#138
Only B and F are realistic options. The rest shouldnt even be on the poll
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leomon
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada169 Posts
June 08 2009 21:12 GMT
#139
Group F imo.

I wanna see Leta-Fantasy try to beat up jaedong, but fail miserably.

Poor movie is screwed, but don't forget that he beated jaedong before!
Radians
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6638 Posts
June 08 2009 22:33 GMT
#140
Gotta be group F IMO.

Wow this MSL is gonna be amazing!
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RYZmooN
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada575 Posts
June 08 2009 23:59 GMT
#141
On June 05 2009 06:10 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2009 06:07 Carnac wrote:
lol what? pvp much in group b? voted f myself, but b is a very, very, very close 2nd

I agree. Fantasy-Leta-JD is simply ridiculous.

Poor Movie, lol.


We have no movie to watch that night =(
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MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
June 09 2009 04:42 GMT
#142
On June 09 2009 04:06 Zozma wrote:
I just realized: If you put the players in group H or G in their primes, that would be the group of death.


I don't know, Savior and Flash, yea but Canata was decent. He wasn't a savior or flash in his prime.

Much, fbh, forgg is decent. But no way it'll be better than jaedong-leta-fantasy combo or 4 dragons.
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
June 09 2009 13:24 GMT
#143
Any of Groups A, B, E, F, G, or H might have, at some point, been serious contenders for Groups of Death.
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Tyrant
Profile Joined September 2003
Korea (South)234 Posts
June 09 2009 18:23 GMT
#144
Movie going to get pewpt on.
Fresol
Profile Joined April 2009
China77 Posts
June 10 2009 15:59 GMT
#145
Why can there be only one group of death?
TotalDominator
Profile Joined February 2009
United States30 Posts
June 11 2009 01:24 GMT
#146
it'll be funny as hell if movie somehow make it out alive...but

POOR MOVIE
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TotalDominator
Profile Joined February 2009
United States30 Posts
June 11 2009 01:50 GMT
#147
it'll be funny as hell if movie somehow make it out alive...but

POOR MOVIE
PerfectMan for Bonjwa!
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
June 11 2009 11:23 GMT
#148
damn u vote button ! . . it cut out a vod i was watching.
Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-11 20:49:51
June 11 2009 20:45 GMT
#149
1.) F - Two S-Class players and one almost S-Class. One B-Class player though.
2.) B - Three A-Class players and one S-Class player.
3.) A - Four A-Class players.
4.) D - Four A-Class players.
5.) G - One S-Class, three B-Class players.

F, and B are really close. Also because PvP can be so random. Ive seen a group like this before about a year ago or some more with free, Anytime, Much, and JangBi. Ridiculous.
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DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
June 12 2009 00:56 GMT
#150
On June 08 2009 13:16 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2009 10:04 DamageControL wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks Leta is kinda terrible?
Stupid post, I don't mean terrible, but i think he will choke. Just strikes me as a weak league player.

I think it's just his rap. He has known to perform poorly (for him) under individual league pressure in the past.

That is kinda what I thought until I saw that people considered his group really tough in part because of him. That is why I voted B
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
June 12 2009 01:37 GMT
#151
Yeah, but that only usually shows once the BoX series starts. He can usually handle the group stages just fine.
Jaedong
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
June 12 2009 05:06 GMT
#152
i wanna see crotch dance hero in the same group with savior, JD and bisu.
...from the land of imba
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
June 12 2009 07:19 GMT
#153
B because of PvP. Bisu can lose to anyone in that group. Jaedong has a relatively easier chance in F.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 12 2009 13:02 GMT
#154
C: A bird, an instrument, a chin, and a pokemon.
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Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
June 12 2009 20:08 GMT
#155
Looks great for jaedong. Only 1 matchup to focus on lolol.
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Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
June 13 2009 17:49 GMT
#156
On June 12 2009 22:02 Shikyo wrote:
C: A bird, an instrument, a chin, and a pokemon.


And so far, the instrument and the chin are winning.
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ZergZoul
Profile Joined April 2007
Mexico408 Posts
June 18 2009 19:04 GMT
#157
On June 05 2009 06:10 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2009 06:07 Carnac wrote:
lol what? pvp much in group b? voted f myself, but b is a very, very, very close 2nd

I agree. Fantasy-Leta-JD is simply ridiculous.

Poor Movie, lol.


On June 05 2009 06:12 h3r1n6 wrote:
F, 6 dragons time is over.

It'd be hilarious if Movie would make it out of that group.


On June 05 2009 06:29 xMiragex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2009 06:07 Carnac wrote:
lol what? pvp much in group b? voted f myself, but b is a very, very, very close 2nd


u cant vote against (T)fantasy and (T)Leta's TvZ awesomeness (as well as (Z)Jaedong in general). As for (P)Movie hes just an innocent bystander who's gonna get raped


On June 05 2009 07:31 Mykill wrote:
wow...
leta, jd, fantasy and movie

lmao if Movie wins it.



On June 05 2009 07:58 Shuray wrote:
Group F is ridiculous. I feel sorry for Movie


On June 05 2009 08:33 ZergZoul wrote:
LoL (P)Movie


On June 05 2009 18:42 Hyperionnn wrote:
I gotta go with B, all Clubday semifinalists, If F didnt have Movie, F would be way harder imo


On June 05 2009 22:27 Roffles wrote:
Voted B for the sheer consistency across the board. Woulda voted F, but Movie sucks.


On June 05 2009 23:36 KnightOfNi wrote:
Oh god Group F is ridiculous. 2 of top 3 terrans (2 and 3 imo), top zerg and movie (lol). Poor, poor movie. Looks like CJ is going to lose one right off the bat .


On June 08 2009 01:58 .risingdragoon wrote:
group f is fierce, but GOD it ain't.

movie's in there where he doesn't belong


On June 08 2009 02:30 Meretricious wrote:
Group F. I expect Movie to be beaten up, bloodied up, strangled and tossed in a gutter. Then it should be close between Fantasy,Leta, and JD.
Looking forward to a Fantasy, JD rematch!


On June 08 2009 20:18 nayumi wrote:
Bisu and Jangbi simply stand out in my opinion. So I'm voting for F, I don't know what Movie is thinking right now. "I'm so screwed"? Possibly =D


On June 11 2009 10:24 TotalDominator wrote:
it'll be funny as hell if movie somehow make it out alive...but

POOR MOVIE



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