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pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
July 21 2008 09:56 GMT
#1
(Z)Jaedong vs (T)fOrGG

Set 1 - Colosseum
Set 2 - Othello
Set 3 - Tiamat
Set 4 - Athena
Set 5 - Colosseum
Moderatorpachi fanclub http://goto.tl/6DI9 。◕‿◕。
Flopgun
Profile Joined August 2005
Germany274 Posts
July 21 2008 10:05 GMT
#2
Jaedong
Jaedong fighting
Spenguin
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia3316 Posts
July 21 2008 10:22 GMT
#3
On July 21 2008 19:05 Flopgun wrote:
Jaedong

< TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #46 > I came for the Brood War, I stayed for the people.
Presony-Boy
Profile Joined April 2007
Israel812 Posts
July 21 2008 10:36 GMT
#4
On July 21 2008 19:22 Spenguin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 19:05 Flopgun wrote:
Jaedong


Hwasin fan since 15 February 2007 - Hwasin/Calm/Kal Fighting~!
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
July 21 2008 10:39 GMT
#5
JD
We make signature, then defense it.
keit
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1584 Posts
July 21 2008 11:10 GMT
#6
Jaydong
Graphics
pat777
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States356 Posts
July 21 2008 11:24 GMT
#7
Jaedong wins the match on game 2.
ChaosKnight
Profile Joined April 2007
United States819 Posts
July 21 2008 11:25 GMT
#8
fOrGG should just gg three times in game 1 so we can all get on with our lives
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
July 21 2008 11:38 GMT
#9
My liquibet rank is bad anyway.. fOrGG
JoxxOr
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden1502 Posts
July 21 2008 11:57 GMT
#10
fOrGG
Gör om, gör rätt
tre2ettsexsju
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden248 Posts
July 21 2008 12:55 GMT
#11
Jaedong f0 sh0
Bifur
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Russian Federation1208 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-27 16:59:38
July 21 2008 13:14 GMT
#12
Right now (T)fOrGG has better statistics: 65% vs Zerg, and (Z)Jaedong has just 63.29% vs Terran...(Z)Jaedong could take one or two games, however it's almost imposible to beat (T)fOrGG in Bo5

You heard it here first
dinmsab
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Malaysia2246 Posts
July 21 2008 13:24 GMT
#13
On July 21 2008 22:14 Bifur wrote:
Right now (T)fOrGG has better statistics: 65% vs Zerg, and (Z)Jaedong has just 63.29% vs Terran...(Z)Jaedong could take one or two games, however it's almost imposible to beat (T)fOrGG in Bo5


Yeah, thats what they said about Hwasin vs JD.
..
Stegosaur
Profile Joined May 2007
Netherlands1231 Posts
July 21 2008 13:55 GMT
#14
On July 21 2008 22:14 Bifur wrote:
Right now (T)fOrGG has better statistics: 65% vs Zerg, and (Z)Jaedong has just 63.29% vs Terran...(Z)Jaedong could take one or two games, however it's almost imposible to beat (T)fOrGG in Bo5


This isn't 'vs zerg', it's vs Jaedong.
Jaedong 3-0 please.
O_o
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32280 Posts
July 21 2008 14:08 GMT
#15
Jay-Dong~
Moderator<:3-/-<
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
July 21 2008 15:13 GMT
#16
Going forgg.
My. Copy. Is. Here.
ScarFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1175 Posts
July 21 2008 15:33 GMT
#17
Jaedong for the upset!
Can you dig it?
Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
July 21 2008 16:16 GMT
#18
On July 21 2008 22:55 Stegosaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 22:14 Bifur wrote:
Right now (T)fOrGG has better statistics: 65% vs Zerg, and (Z)Jaedong has just 63.29% vs Terran...(Z)Jaedong could take one or two games, however it's almost imposible to beat (T)fOrGG in Bo5


This isn't 'vs zerg', it's vs Jaedong.
Jaedong 3-0 please.


QFT
Jaedong's got this.
Keep the Dream Alive twitch.tv/monokerros
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
July 21 2008 16:35 GMT
#19
On July 21 2008 22:14 Bifur wrote:
Right now (T)fOrGG has better statistics: 65% vs Zerg, and (Z)Jaedong has just 63.29% vs Terran...(Z)Jaedong could take one or two games, however it's almost imposible to beat (T)fOrGG in Bo5


L O L
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
July 21 2008 16:36 GMT
#20
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
July 21 2008 16:39 GMT
#21
Voting for Forgg because I've already slaughtered my liquibet season voting against Jaedong. I'VE TURNED INTO LAST ROMANTIC. I need to vote more sensibly next season.
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
July 21 2008 16:56 GMT
#22
Easiest vote of the century. Yes, I said that before and this stupid brat actually made it past Flash (I said it would be close), but there is no way ForGG will be able to get by the DONG master.
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
July 21 2008 17:15 GMT
#23
Anyone who votes seriously for ForGG needs a mental check-up.
Super serious.
Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-21 17:17:57
July 21 2008 17:17 GMT
#24
--- Nuked ---
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
July 21 2008 17:19 GMT
#25
The Dong. Forgg can pull off a julyzerg with perfect preparation and flawless timing pushes in early to mid game but JD is captain clutch of bo5s, he's been getting better and better as this season winds down, and he's destroyed Hwaisin and Lomo (In a match where he was behind due to nice timing no less). The control he displayed in his game vs. Lomo reminded me of Savior in his prime vs. Mind.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
eazo
Profile Joined March 2008
United States530 Posts
July 21 2008 17:35 GMT
#26
On July 21 2008 22:55 Stegosaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 22:14 Bifur wrote:
Right now (T)fOrGG has better statistics: 65% vs Zerg, and (Z)Jaedong has just 63.29% vs Terran...(Z)Jaedong could take one or two games, however it's almost imposible to beat (T)fOrGG in Bo5


This isn't 'vs zerg', it's vs Jaedong.
Jaedong 3-0 please.

this is very true.
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
July 21 2008 17:38 GMT
#27
On July 21 2008 22:14 Bifur wrote:
Right now (T)fOrGG has better statistics: 65% vs Zerg, and (Z)Jaedong has just 63.29% vs Terran...(T)fOrGG could take one or two games, however it's almost imposible to beat (Z)Jaedong in Bo5


Fixed that, Jaedong is a lot stronger in Bo5 seriess than he is in single games. fOrGG might win the first game, as thats a common theme with Jaedongs Bo5.
Pangolin
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1035 Posts
July 21 2008 18:40 GMT
#28
On July 22 2008 02:19 Warrior Madness wrote:
The Dong. Forgg can pull off a julyzerg with perfect preparation and flawless timing pushes in early to mid game but JD is captain clutch of bo5s, he's been getting better and better as this season winds down, and he's destroyed Hwaisin and Lomo (In a match where he was behind due to nice timing no less). The control he displayed in his game vs. Lomo reminded me of Savior in his prime vs. Mind.


What? Savior wasn't in his prime when he faced mind... and he lost that series anyways. Maybe you are thinking of somebody else?
It's easier not to.
ScarFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1175 Posts
July 21 2008 19:12 GMT
#29
Iris probably, and not it was not even close to as epic as iris vs savior game 5 LOL
Can you dig it?
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
July 21 2008 20:01 GMT
#30
fOrGG, I hate Jaedong and my LB is already dead anyway.
Minimal effort.
GongKyuckTerran
Profile Joined March 2006
Croatia1096 Posts
July 21 2008 20:23 GMT
#31
jaedong
but i would be happy if forgg takes this too just cuz he kicked out fucking flash
Ultras di Spalato, Etre et durer
obloquy
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States265 Posts
July 21 2008 21:04 GMT
#32
Jaedong, but I hope it's a good series.
That was an unknown unknown.
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2921 Posts
July 21 2008 23:23 GMT
#33
On July 21 2008 19:05 Flopgun wrote:
Jaedong

Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8174 Posts
July 22 2008 00:21 GMT
#34
JD

Zerg fighting!
Free Palestine
imDerek
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1944 Posts
July 22 2008 00:41 GMT
#35
Jaedong
forGG
forGG
forGG

forGG 3-1 Jaedong
Least favorite progamers: Leta, Zero, Mind, Shine, free, really <-- newly added
sqwert
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States781 Posts
July 22 2008 05:50 GMT
#36
i voted savior
if everythings coming your way, youre in the wrong lane. sAviOr 4evar!
chennis
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan227 Posts
July 22 2008 07:41 GMT
#37
voted JD

but I have a bad feeling about this.
TonyL2
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
England1953 Posts
July 23 2008 17:04 GMT
#38
ForGG!!!!!!!!!!!! Just because he seems so cool and geeky. Lecaf need a terran champion, not Lomo!

Wasn't it ForGG who got disqualified in a previous MSL for using the gas trick to drill through Ra's blocked ramp? Oh well
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
July 23 2008 19:32 GMT
#39
My heart and mind says Jaedong but something is whispering to me Forgg. Jaedong has had his share of upsets lately, completely annihilating Much and Hwaisin but Forgg has shown the bigger upsets but in a less dominating fashion, taking out Sea, Kal and Flash. JD is captain clutch and he's master of Bo5 matches but his weakness lies in the early to mid game, where Forgg can excel through his perfect timing and impeccable preparation. The map pool favours Forgg heavily but JD's been fighting that all year long (And it didn't seem to matter against Hwasin, the best TvZ on earth). JD has improved his anti-cheese ever since Flash and Backho cheesed him out of the last starleagues and he's shown that he can recover from a timing push with god-like control (i.e. Lomo) but then he's also shown that he can lose to a good timing push as well (i.e. sunken breaks). Forgg's ZvT is 71% in 2008 whereas JD's is 56% but JD has had way more ZvTs against much tougher opponents. JD also has the advantage of practicing against 2 high caliber terrans on his team where as Forgg against only 1.

It's hard to call... I think Forgg might pull off a julyzerg but then jaedong might pull off a jaedong. I'll put my money behind the Dong though and follow my heart.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
ulszz
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Jamaica1787 Posts
July 23 2008 23:11 GMT
#40
comon jaedong lets go!!!!!!!!!
everliving, everfaithful, eversure
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
July 23 2008 23:27 GMT
#41
Jaedong
sAviOr[gm] ~ want to watch good replays? read my blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/wizard
losso
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Bulgaria158 Posts
July 24 2008 14:34 GMT
#42
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
sushiman
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden2691 Posts
July 25 2008 06:12 GMT
#43
I'd say it's about 55/45 in Jaedongs favour. It could go either way, but I'm voting Jaedong based solely on that he is the more solid player.
1000 at least.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 25 2008 07:11 GMT
#44
4g^2
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
July 25 2008 09:03 GMT
#45
On July 24 2008 23:34 losso wrote:
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3


What the fuck you're stealing my signature/TL.net identity! Thief!
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
mattyd
Profile Joined July 2008
United States3 Posts
July 26 2008 01:31 GMT
#46
God dmn the maps this season. This BO5 has 4 maps that obviously benefit T over Z. ForGG has a 65/35 AFIK
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
July 26 2008 02:26 GMT
#47
I voted (T)fOrGG for the hell of it personally i only see him winning late games but i don't think hell get that so much vs (Z)Jaedong a aggressive player esp on most of the maps.
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
ChaosKnight
Profile Joined April 2007
United States819 Posts
July 26 2008 09:59 GMT
#48
On July 21 2008 22:14 Bifur wrote:
Right now (T)fOrGG has better statistics: 65% vs Zerg, and (Z)Jaedong has just 63.29% vs Terran...(Z)Jaedong could take one or two games, however it's almost imposible to beat (T)fOrGG in Bo5

In the long run, statistics are correct T_T

Good call >_>
aavo74
Profile Joined February 2008
Estonia23 Posts
July 26 2008 11:42 GMT
#49
sh*te, jd lost and i lost 8points AAARGH i never vote for jd anymore:p
cogito ergo sum
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
July 26 2008 13:45 GMT
#50
wat
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Emptyeye
Profile Joined July 2008
United States34 Posts
July 26 2008 15:33 GMT
#51
Hahaha, oops.
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
July 26 2008 16:03 GMT
#52
I was part of the 109 in the minority, hell yes.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
July 26 2008 16:46 GMT
#53
109 WOOT
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 26 2008 19:24 GMT
#54
hahahahaha, oh no the "best zerg ever" just got assraped, LOL
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
July 26 2008 20:36 GMT
#55
noooooooooo xd
750/750 emotions fully stacked
ReapersSorrows
Profile Joined June 2008
China40 Posts
July 27 2008 00:31 GMT
#56
LAUGH at all the ppl who said v. jaedong ahahahahhaa
Cry smore! YES! UR TEARS SUSTAIN ME!
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
July 27 2008 00:45 GMT
#57
On July 21 2008 20:38 h3r1n6 wrote:
My liquibet rank is bad anyway.. fOrGG


Haha,

from 240 or something to 120
tre2ettsexsju
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden248 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-27 02:41:26
July 27 2008 02:39 GMT
#58
how the hell could he lose that.
ill stop watching starcraft if jd doesnt win the gom tour
fuck im pissed
Fx_
Profile Joined April 2008
503 Posts
July 27 2008 09:55 GMT
#59
I can't believe in it...
But what now a difference now?
ForGG win!
Power is your Intelligence
Bifur
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Russian Federation1208 Posts
July 27 2008 17:01 GMT
#60
On July 21 2008 22:14 Bifur wrote:
Right now (T)fOrGG has better statistics: 65% vs Zerg, and (Z)Jaedong has just 63.29% vs Terran...(Z)Jaedong could take one or two games, however it's almost imposible to beat (T)fOrGG in Bo5

You heard it here first


as I said
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
July 27 2008 19:26 GMT
#61
I went from 680 to 630 :D
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
July 28 2008 06:32 GMT
#62
On July 22 2008 01:35 3nickma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2008 22:14 Bifur wrote:
Right now (T)fOrGG has better statistics: 65% vs Zerg, and (Z)Jaedong has just 63.29% vs Terran...(Z)Jaedong could take one or two games, however it's almost imposible to beat (T)fOrGG in Bo5


L O L



lol ownt?

this poor excuse of post so to sparse it up bit i really felt jaedong just made alot of bad decisions and that he shouldve stuck to his strengths
OMG you nasty gurl
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