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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
December 31 2011 15:52 GMT
#1
poor idra :/
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TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
December 31 2011 15:57 GMT
#2
Dat group C no doubt.
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
catcher
Profile Joined July 2011
10 Posts
December 31 2011 15:57 GMT
#3
i think c is first because of idra fanboys, but its definitly not the hardest group. there are new better players coming than nestea and mvp are right now and 2012 will be their year.
babybell
Profile Joined June 2011
776 Posts
December 31 2011 16:03 GMT
#4
Group B so crazy. Much harder that Group C.
ColtraneL
Profile Joined December 2011
France248 Posts
December 31 2011 16:04 GMT
#5
B is definitly the most interesting to me. But A, C, D, F and can be sick as well.
darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
December 31 2011 16:10 GMT
#6
If you like macro games, C is probably the choice. If you like aggressive micro games, you'll probably like B.

I personally am not that interested in group b; I'm sure 3 aggressive players will produce some interesting games but idra v nestea is opportunity for beautiful macro zvz that can't be discounted because it is so rare
Ozyallstar
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia5 Posts
December 31 2011 16:13 GMT
#7
On January 01 2012 00:57 catcher wrote:
i think c is first because of idra fanboys, but its definitly not the hardest group. there are new better players coming than nestea and mvp are right now and 2012 will be their year.


your a fool... mvp is the bonafied god of terran and he is undoubtedly the best player in the world. nestea is in a slump... but still he is enough to take down pretty much anybody in the world not named mma/mvp. just look at the global prize money of the individual players, noone else comes close to these guys
2v2AiSieesch
Profile Joined December 2009
Germany98 Posts
December 31 2011 16:15 GMT
#8
group b ofc fin gonna eat them all
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
December 31 2011 16:16 GMT
#9
Group C winning..... really? Group A or B seems to be the most promising of results for epic games. B it is!
expellist
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore7 Posts
December 31 2011 16:17 GMT
#10
Groups D, G and H are significantly easier to cruise through compared to Group C man. Idra's gonna work real hard !! Idra fighting!
nucLeaRTV
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania822 Posts
December 31 2011 16:27 GMT
#11
Group C is full of fan favourite players.
But B and A are great also!
"Having your own haters means you are famous"
arcane1129
Profile Joined January 2011
United States270 Posts
December 31 2011 16:30 GMT
#12
I'm pumped for B and C. I like watching the players in A, especially Sen, but that's a lot of TvT and it's not as exciting as B/C imo.
thegiantnome
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States125 Posts
December 31 2011 16:34 GMT
#13
I love IdrA but he's got his work cut out for him. Please IdrA return to your code s thrown!!!!!!!! IdrA did play damn well vs Nestea in the invitational thing. He also beat bomber while not training in korea so mvp may not be impossible to beat and lucky I don't know he may get raped he may not.
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Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
December 31 2011 16:45 GMT
#14
I've taken easier math tests, what is this poll..
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The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
December 31 2011 16:46 GMT
#15
On January 01 2012 00:57 catcher wrote:
i think c is first because of idra fanboys, but its definitly not the hardest group. there are new better players coming than nestea and mvp are right now and 2012 will be their year.

You're not right but Lucky's play has never really impressed me and IdrA isn't as good as most of these Code S Zergs. I chose Group B just because Leenock and fOrGG are ridiculously good (but not Mvp/Nestea good)/
robih
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria1086 Posts
December 31 2011 16:49 GMT
#16
imho group B is the toughest
group G might be the closest
SC_Smoker
Profile Joined May 2011
Austria16 Posts
December 31 2011 16:54 GMT
#17
Poor Idra!
ZisforZerg
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States224 Posts
December 31 2011 16:54 GMT
#18
It's interesting how people are actually arguing that Group C isn't the toughest. The best player in the world, the best Zerg in the world (still), a macro machine, and Lucky (who is actually pretty damn good vT and vZ)
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JSC_Rio
Profile Joined December 2011
Croatia1 Post
December 31 2011 16:54 GMT
#19
Oh i love those trolls who vote on the worst group just for fun lol
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Fus
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1112 Posts
December 31 2011 16:55 GMT
#20
What do you meen best group? Like, best players or best/ most intertaining to watch?
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VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
December 31 2011 16:55 GMT
#21
I think people are really overlooking Group D, serious dark-horse group.
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dantemp
Profile Joined October 2011
Bulgaria6 Posts
December 31 2011 17:01 GMT
#22
On January 01 2012 01:03 Abrafred wrote:
Group B so crazy. Much harder that Group C.


well, group B has at least one player that is much better than the rest, that been forGG, whereas in group B MVP is much closer in skills with Nestea and Idra.
I'm saying this with Leenock's recent bad form, if Leenock plays at his best it would be another story.
Fus
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1112 Posts
December 31 2011 17:02 GMT
#23
I think it's close between C and B. If i would rate the players in the groups it would be like this(better comes first): MVP(c), Nestea(c), Leenock(b),fin(b),MC(b), SuperNova(b), Lucky(c), Idra (c). I would say C is the best group from this.
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Blackrobe
Profile Joined August 2010
United States806 Posts
December 31 2011 17:17 GMT
#24
I honestly do not see anyone but Leenock and ForGG getting out of B. :/
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OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
December 31 2011 17:22 GMT
#25
I saw MVP and Nestea in the same group and picked that. Then I saw group B... =/
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LunaSaint
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom620 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 17:29:21
December 31 2011 17:28 GMT
#26
Group B best overall quality.
Group A best entertainment.

C and D looking nasty, too.
lacho_u
Profile Joined April 2009
Bulgaria535 Posts
December 31 2011 17:32 GMT
#27
On January 01 2012 01:54 ZisforZerg wrote:
It's interesting how people are actually arguing that Group C isn't the toughest. The best player in the world, the best Zerg in the world (still), a macro machine, and Lucky (who is actually pretty damn good vT and vZ)


end of the line best zerg in the world ? still ? you sure that he will get over that group i'm not, lucky is good ye no doubt, neastea still if not the best still better then lucky, idra hmm pooor poor guy ( i'm actually his fan but his mindset is not good enough for the koreans and never will be ) and then yep he have the best player in the world, pretty tough one i agree, but still a group with MC ( stop 2base allinin everybody and every match up you play !!!! ) Leenock who's obviously beasty past couple of months forgg who's one of the best terrans can reach mvp's lvl for sure and will dominate in future there is no doubt at least for me, and then we have supernova player who's capable of winning the whole thing when he's playin his game.
idk really after all that i wrote not sure which one is toughest but my call is the one which had all 3 races more matchup's to practice for is not a small thing.
happy new year
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Atlas247
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada318 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 17:34:29
December 31 2011 17:33 GMT
#28
On January 01 2012 00:57 catcher wrote:
i think c is first because of idra fanboys, but its definitly not the hardest group. there are new better players coming than nestea and mvp are right now and 2012 will be their year.


I believe the poll was for "best group", not "hardest group". Interpret it however you like, don't blame anyone else for doing the same.
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imPERSONater
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1324 Posts
December 31 2011 18:15 GMT
#29
Definitely voted for B, just a great group top to bottom, but it was easy to guess the masses would go with IdrA + MVP/Nestea
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FlukyS
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland485 Posts
December 31 2011 18:17 GMT
#30
I dont think C is the hardest group to call, nestea is on a slump and MVP is probably not going to drop a game so then its just which one between lucky and idra has the best ZvZ. Id say group F is the one id say is the hardest to call or maybe B can throw up a few shockers.
KiZZeMiZZ
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden9 Posts
December 31 2011 18:41 GMT
#31
C IS hardest, every one in the group is realy good............ except IDRA.

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kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
December 31 2011 18:42 GMT
#32
WOOOOOOOW...
anyone who says group C doesn't really know that much.
Group B is far and away the most difficult
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
December 31 2011 18:45 GMT
#33
On January 01 2012 02:28 LunaSaint wrote:
Group B best overall quality.
Group A best entertainment.

C and D looking nasty, too.


Bingo, u r so right
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
dANiELcanuck
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada217 Posts
December 31 2011 18:51 GMT
#34
On January 01 2012 00:57 catcher wrote:
i think c is first because of idra fanboys, but its definitly not the hardest group. there are new better players coming than nestea and mvp are right now and 2012 will be their year.


Do you even watch StarCraft or do you just enjoy trying to be a hipster? MVP and Nestea are the two top players in the world regardless of what you say or think or do. They've got the titles to prove it. They've won nearly half of the GSL's between the two of them. Definitely better players coming up? Maybe, but "coming up" doesn't mean today. Or tomorrow.
jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
December 31 2011 18:59 GMT
#35
welcome back to code s idra .... lol
ZanXala
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden26 Posts
December 31 2011 19:22 GMT
#36
IdrA's chance is to beat Nestea and Lucky in ZvZs, He wont stand a chance vs MVP, sad but true. I think that IdrA probably has a 35%ish chance of making it out of the group.
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Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
December 31 2011 19:22 GMT
#37
I rate group B the true group of death.

Relatively,
Mvp>forGG
Nestea~Leenock
Idra<MC
Lucky<Supernova

Especially if Fionn doesn't pick Supernova to do well.
Devise
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1131 Posts
December 31 2011 19:37 GMT
#38
On January 01 2012 04:22 Ansinjunger wrote:
I rate group B the true group of death.

Relatively,
Mvp>forGG
Nestea~Leenock
Idra<MC
Lucky<Supernova

Especially if Fionn doesn't pick Supernova to do well.


This is kind of true, I hate comparing player to player, but I look at as,
Group B = best player of each race, but relatively unproven Lucky and IdrA just back in Korea.

Group C = Last season's 2nd place, one of the best protoss, proven very good player Supernova, and relatively unproven but very promising Fin

Too me Group C is just overall better, but both very strong
Cold Potato
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1 Post
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 19:47:38
December 31 2011 19:45 GMT
#39
IdrA and MVP all the Way. The best Terran and Zerg in the world on the same team... the other are going to have an extremely hard time winning when team C is in the Way. That is of course if IdrA doesnt get cheesed/timing pushed... and MMA my give them a run for there money
Rikke
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany302 Posts
December 31 2011 19:54 GMT
#40
Group C is boring. MVP will get #1 and NesTea #2. Group B will be way more interesting.
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
December 31 2011 20:25 GMT
#41
Group B for sure
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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11047 Posts
December 31 2011 20:48 GMT
#42
Can't believe people are putting C over B. B is going to be so cutthroat. It's more easy to see blow outs in C with Idra tilting or lucky falling to IM.
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themask4f
Profile Joined December 2011
138 Posts
December 31 2011 21:20 GMT
#43
I think people "best" with "favourite"
group B is the hardest no doubt. I know everyone loves idra but hes just an average player in code S standards so this group pretty much only has nestea and MVP as big names
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
December 31 2011 21:24 GMT
#44
On January 01 2012 03:51 dANiELcanuck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 00:57 catcher wrote:
i think c is first because of idra fanboys, but its definitly not the hardest group. there are new better players coming than nestea and mvp are right now and 2012 will be their year.


Do you even watch StarCraft or do you just enjoy trying to be a hipster? MVP and Nestea are the two top players in the world regardless of what you say or think or do. They've got the titles to prove it. They've won nearly half of the GSL's between the two of them. Definitely better players coming up? Maybe, but "coming up" doesn't mean today. Or tomorrow.

Nestea isn't the 2nd best player in the world anymore...just no.
CrtBalorda
Profile Joined December 2011
Slovenia704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 21:37:27
December 31 2011 21:37 GMT
#45
they missplaced the group C players, the should be group D, for that is the group of DEATH!!!
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Cryo1
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada28 Posts
December 31 2011 22:48 GMT
#46
Sucks to be IdrA right now.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
December 31 2011 22:49 GMT
#47
how is there even a question?
phanto
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden708 Posts
December 31 2011 23:01 GMT
#48
B is the harder group.
Mvp is what edges C to being very close to it.
SecondSandwich
Profile Joined July 2008
United States319 Posts
December 31 2011 23:02 GMT
#49
On January 01 2012 01:03 Abrafred wrote:
Group B so crazy. Much harder that Group C.


Agree! I am predicting some sick games :-)
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routinetrafficstop
Profile Joined October 2010
United States180 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 23:34:20
December 31 2011 23:29 GMT
#50
Everyone keep in mind "best" is a loaded word... best in which way?

Group C = most accomplished 2 players in gsl... Group B = more entertaining possibilities with younger/up and coming players.
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Idianci13
Profile Joined May 2011
United States39 Posts
December 31 2011 23:31 GMT
#51
On January 01 2012 01:13 Ozyallstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 00:57 catcher wrote:
i think c is first because of idra fanboys, but its definitly not the hardest group. there are new better players coming than nestea and mvp are right now and 2012 will be their year.


your a fool... mvp is the bonafied god of terran and he is undoubtedly the best player in the world. nestea is in a slump... but still he is enough to take down pretty much anybody in the world not named mma/mvp. just look at the global prize money of the individual players, noone else comes close to these guys


hahahahaha, he's a fool? Lucky is most likely going to get pwned in a very 1 sided series, Idra, unless he dominates Nestea, is going to lose, and seeing as how every single time MVP has faced Nestea, MVP wins. Fin and MC are team mates, MC is on an upswing after a slump, Leenock is a total nerd-baller, Fin is a crazy good old school new comer, and Supernova has displayed ridiculous TvZ, TvP, and recently mech in TvT.

Seeing as how MVP will probably come out with 0 losses, and with Nesteas slump I see him losing to Idra or Lucky. While everyone in group B is just about evenly matched.

Global Prize, and skill, while coefficient, aren't always based on real time.
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Profile Joined December 2007
Spain327 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 00:12:01
January 01 2012 00:06 GMT
#52
Option C 71%??... because IdrA in this group??Come one guys......... NesTea and Mvp and the clear favorites and the will advance at 90% ...but tell me ...who will advance in group B? SuperNova,MC,Leenock,ForGG.... is the harder group for sure.

Edit: Ok i read the coments and is obvious that the group C have this 71% because Mvp,NesTea and IdrA have many fanboys.
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nakedsurfer
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada500 Posts
January 01 2012 00:11 GMT
#53
I voted C just because of MVP and Nestea might be out of his slump(started his slump when we started traveling). He's had a good resting period. I think group B a more evenly distributed scary skill(like they're all awesome whereas in C lucky isn't That awesome and Idra may or may not be Awesome) but I still think Fin will take it EzPz
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mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
January 01 2012 00:19 GMT
#54
Nestea is NOT the best zerg in the world....
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discobaas
Profile Joined December 2011
225 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 00:22:35
January 01 2012 00:22 GMT
#55
On January 01 2012 01:54 ZisforZerg wrote:
It's interesting how people are actually arguing that Group C isn't the toughest. The best player in the world, the best Zerg in the world (still), a macro machine, and Lucky (who is actually pretty damn good vT and vZ)

MVP is a boss, no doubt. Nestea isn't a top contender unless he invents new builds and completely stirs up the metagame, which he hasn't been doing for a while now. Although he might emerge with some sick new stuff, it's becoming less likely with time. Idra and Lucky are average at best (in korean terms). The group only has so many votes due to zergs autovoting nestea's group and foreigner fans autovoting idra's group.

Group B is most definitely a tougher group overall.
you're wrong
mburke05
Profile Joined October 2010
United States130 Posts
January 01 2012 00:36 GMT
#56
b absolutely tougher group overall.

just idra fanboys overweighting c.
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
January 01 2012 00:44 GMT
#57
B and C are equally tough imo. B might actually take the cake
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PlainShane
Profile Joined September 2011
United States62 Posts
January 01 2012 00:47 GMT
#58
Fin takes his group, for sure.
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TensaiSakuragi
Profile Joined November 2011
Croatia224 Posts
January 01 2012 00:58 GMT
#59
Very close poll results this time.
carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
January 01 2012 01:13 GMT
#60
This poll was a no-brainier
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kabar
Profile Joined November 2010
United States616 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 01:39:40
January 01 2012 01:39 GMT
#61
c over b, really? to me b looks much stronger.
gulati
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2241 Posts
January 01 2012 01:40 GMT
#62
I am most excited for Mvp/Idra/NesTea's group, but I think it's almost impossible to deny the fact that Leenock/MC/Supernova/Fin's group has the most raw talent. Forgg will dominate this season, unless Leenock can repeat his stellar end-of-2011 performance again in 2012.
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TensaiSakuragi
Profile Joined November 2011
Croatia224 Posts
January 01 2012 01:48 GMT
#63
On January 01 2012 10:39 kabar wrote:
c over b, really? to me b looks much stronger.


It's not about who looks stronger but what the "best" group is. Everyone can define for oneself what "best" is.
ZOMGDEC
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia4 Posts
January 01 2012 02:02 GMT
#64
On January 01 2012 00:57 catcher wrote:
i think c is first because of idra fanboys, but its definitly not the hardest group. there are new better players coming than nestea and mvp are right now and 2012 will be their year.

Not Possible. NesTea is a perfect Human...hence group C
I like zergs
ALTSonic
Profile Joined January 2011
United States19 Posts
January 01 2012 02:15 GMT
#65
GROUP MOTHA FKING C NO DOUBT
kabar
Profile Joined November 2010
United States616 Posts
January 01 2012 03:08 GMT
#66
On January 01 2012 10:48 TensaiSakuragi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 10:39 kabar wrote:
c over b, really? to me b looks much stronger.


It's not about who looks stronger but what the "best" group is. Everyone can define for oneself what "best" is.


fair enough. i took this as another 'group of death' type poll.
Magnitoo
Profile Joined August 2011
Serbia125 Posts
January 01 2012 03:46 GMT
#67
Hahaha that Poor Idra video gets me every time.

The most difficult group by far is Group C. However I'm really looking forward Group A and Group D.


Foreigners fighting!
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
January 01 2012 04:10 GMT
#68
poor idra lol
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
January 01 2012 04:21 GMT
#69
C has the best "name value," per se, but group B seems to be the obvious choice in terms of toughness. Each player in B has been tearing it up. Hard to predict who will come out of that group.
kineticSYN
Profile Joined May 2011
United States909 Posts
January 01 2012 04:48 GMT
#70
i saw mvp's name and clicked it.

obviously.

but in terms of hardest to predict and most excited for all the matches in a group as a whole.. group B for sure
IMMvp #1 :)
TheLOLas
Profile Joined May 2011
United States646 Posts
January 01 2012 05:17 GMT
#71
I pray for Idra.
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
January 01 2012 05:19 GMT
#72
Based on Nestea's recent form, I actually think B is scarier.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
January 01 2012 06:03 GMT
#73
I think Group B is by far the toughest. Group C has Mvp, but NesTea has been lackluster lately, and Lucky and IdrA haven't proven to be Code S material lately imo.

SuperNova has been great lately, Fin and Leenock are absolutely top tier, and the Boss Toss may be back for reals.

Group C is like the group of 2011...but it's time for 2012.
weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2071 Posts
January 01 2012 07:39 GMT
#74
Group B is tough as shit, leenock and MC rematch is gonna be big, and now with the most anticipated Forgg in it, it's gonna be an arena of death, only the last 2 standing can survive, its just @#$%....
Group C on the other hand has so many ZvZs, it can go to any of them, while the Zs such strong ZvT as well, its gonna be hard. but as nestea is in a slump, i dont see this being too exited about....
But y is people even voting for group A?? its like the easiest group of all.... Jjaki is just gonna role over everybody in that group.... Last spot of the group will most probably be taken by Ganzi, but it depends on their builds as him and Boxer are in the same team. But if they go into a standard game, i dont think Boxer stands a chance......
Oppa feeding style
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
January 01 2012 07:43 GMT
#75
On January 01 2012 00:57 catcher wrote:
i think c is first because of idra fanboys, but its definitly not the hardest group. there are new better players coming than nestea and mvp are right now and 2012 will be their year.


It doesn't say "Hardest Group". It says "Best".

In my opinion, Group C will clearly be the most epic and probably fun to watch.
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
January 01 2012 08:37 GMT
#76
Group F is what I am looking forward to. Group C is obviously the most imbalanced group ever. Going to be a fun gsl! :D
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DennizR
Profile Joined May 2007
Sweden653 Posts
January 01 2012 09:37 GMT
#77
B has the highest skill level in total, In my eyes quite a bit above C who really only has MVP as a top performer as of late.
ZerguufOu
Profile Joined December 2011
United States107 Posts
January 01 2012 09:59 GMT
#78
hands down group c. that group probably made about a million bucks so far in sc2. by group i mean mvp and nestea
Aserrin
Profile Joined October 2011
Uruguay231 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 10:32:12
January 01 2012 10:30 GMT
#79
Group B is crazy

Group A has my favorite players overall
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
January 01 2012 10:47 GMT
#80
Idra must pull a Naniwa. I believe!! ... Yeah, he would probably leave a couple of games early.
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seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
January 01 2012 12:06 GMT
#81
Well, since "best" was never defined, this is basically a "pick which one you like the most" poll.
fumo
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland13 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 13:54:49
January 01 2012 13:28 GMT
#82
I think C might be the hardest but not by that far as pool results could indicate. B is pretty much the same, it will just depend of players form in a given day. If Jjakji was in B instead of Supernova it would definitely be the hardest group by far.

Breakdown:
A:
Jjakji - really scary because of last GSL
Sen - incredibly good but didn't really win anything major yet.
Boxer - everybody likes him, but lets face it - he barely got into code S...
Ganzi -meh...
B:
Leenock - best zerg now?
Fin - very promising (and hyped), we will see how he will do in Code S
MC - despite lack of success in recent months still probably the best protoss (along with Hero)
Supernova - meh...
C:
Mvp - He wins most things
Nestea - not as scary as few months ago but still...
Idra - good guy Grack but he might get raped a bit...
Lucky - he will need a lot of luck too
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
January 01 2012 13:52 GMT
#83
A, B, C are all insane
BloodDrunK
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bangladesh2767 Posts
January 01 2012 14:23 GMT
#84
group c no doubt....
You have the power to create your own destiny.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10004 Posts
January 01 2012 14:52 GMT
#85
cmon yo group b is BY FAR the hardest group, less bias plz
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
January 01 2012 15:33 GMT
#86
didnt expect that many fanboys

Nestea is slumping hard. Idra and Lucky are 2 of the worst Code S players.
iiGreetings
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada563 Posts
January 01 2012 15:50 GMT
#87
I voted c but group f wasnt far behind. C is only good because you've got the miracle makers there... IdrA and lucky ate fucked
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Ozira
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden150 Posts
January 01 2012 15:56 GMT
#88
B for sure
VediVeci
Profile Joined October 2011
United States82 Posts
January 01 2012 16:26 GMT
#89
On January 01 2012 22:28 fumo wrote:
I think C might be the hardest but not by that far as pool results could indicate. B is pretty much the same, it will just depend of players form in a given day. If Jjakji was in B instead of Supernova it would definitely be the hardest group by far.



Polls like this aren't meant to be representative of he relative difficulty of the groups necessarily (even if you assume "best" means "most difficult"). If one group was even slightly harder than all the others, the results could very well be 100% voting for that group if everybody agreed on it, even though it certainly doesn't contain 100% of the difficulty.

Another example:
Which number is larger?
A) 100
B) 101

The results are going to be ~100% for B, 0 for A. Its not at all representative of the fact that 101 is only one percent larger than 100, and the results would be the same if A had been 1 and B had been 101, despite a larger discrepancy.
Zirith
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada403 Posts
January 01 2012 16:35 GMT
#90
I picked h, they are all fairly close together in skill level which should result in the most interesting games.
Artosis: "I don't trust hyenas."
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
January 01 2012 17:21 GMT
#91
I'm gonna say group C money talks BS walks and Group C has twice the SC2 money of any other group.

Then Group B.
MC for president
Kahuna.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada196 Posts
January 01 2012 18:17 GMT
#92
Poor, poor IdrA indeed. Good luck to him.
"Sorry, I'm allergic to bullshit."
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
January 01 2012 18:32 GMT
#93
what exactly do you mean by best?

i voted for the idra group cuz its the most skilled (most definitely) and most interesting to watch group
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ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 18:43:31
January 01 2012 18:42 GMT
#94
On January 01 2012 22:28 fumo wrote:
Ganzi -meh...

Supernova - meh...

Wtf?


Group B is arguably the toughest group, but F, H and D better look better balanced, so I have to go with one of them. Anways, this season will be so damn sick.
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Wheva
Profile Joined April 2011
United States13 Posts
January 01 2012 19:43 GMT
#95
On January 01 2012 00:52 Makro wrote:
poor idra :/

What do you mean poor Idra? Poor Lucky!!!!!!!
wheh-vuh as in whatever
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
January 01 2012 20:38 GMT
#96
Group C is definitely a fun one and I can see why the people on here would vote it as the best, but the toughest one has to be Group B people! You crazy if you don't think so.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
ZooG
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden618 Posts
January 01 2012 20:45 GMT
#97
Group B is the hardest imo
"Rain, also a name for a meteorological condition" -Artosis
jinzonam
Profile Joined January 2012
United States2 Posts
January 01 2012 20:48 GMT
#98
In no doubt C!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
January 01 2012 21:33 GMT
#99
Cue the fan boys. -_-
Regorr
Profile Joined February 2011
306 Posts
January 01 2012 21:43 GMT
#100
idra is gonna get rolled over in C and MVP is just going to destroy everyone else, why is it over group b lol
dangthatsright
Profile Joined July 2011
1158 Posts
January 01 2012 21:46 GMT
#101
leenock, supernova, forgg, mc feels scarier than mvp, nestea, idra, lucky imo =/
although if nestea starts to play like he did in the middle of the year (GSL May and July?) then group C could be harder than group B

but if that's not what is meant by best group, I would say group C > group B, mostly because of the welcome back that IdrA gets (I don't hope he fails, but some of us find it kinda funny that GSL put him right back into code S with the two players considered to be the best in the world for a long period of time (as far as SC2 is concerned) even though the pool drawings were mostly random)
bubl100500
Profile Joined March 2011
Ukraine538 Posts
January 01 2012 21:59 GMT
#102
Stop saying poor Idra... He got free code S, this group is the best way to prove he is worth it.
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
January 01 2012 22:30 GMT
#103
On January 01 2012 01:54 SC_Smoker wrote:
Poor Idra!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlc0S8LLtsg


lmao

classssssic
GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
January 01 2012 22:36 GMT
#104
only because idra is in it...
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
January 01 2012 22:43 GMT
#105
I think it's clearly B or C. I chose B because I'm a Leenock and MC fanboy, but both of those groups are incredibly stacked and full of great players.
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
psychotics
Profile Joined July 2011
United States184 Posts
January 01 2012 22:48 GMT
#106
On January 01 2012 00:57 catcher wrote:
i think c is first because of idra fanboys, but its definitly not the hardest group. there are new better players coming than nestea and mvp are right now and 2012 will be their year.



better then MVP???????? like who? i can see better then nestea at the moment but MVP??? how can anyone dispute hes the best player in the world right now?
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
January 01 2012 22:52 GMT
#107
Cant wait for this, the best and (i think ) second best players and our foreign hope, talk about story!
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Mista_Masta
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands557 Posts
January 01 2012 23:27 GMT
#108
I think Mvp and NesTea in one group = autovote.
Protocon
Profile Joined February 2010
United States255 Posts
January 01 2012 23:50 GMT
#109
voted B over Group C b/c well, we know the outcome, we just don't know how bad a beating idra will receive and whether he rages or not. It's old hat. Nestea is falling off the wagon a bit, MVP is safe and boring, Lucky is just there. Meh group, up there compared to the others.

Group B on the other hand, is DEBUTING a broodwar player who has shown us some entertaining aggressive style. It's fucking ForGG guys come on. Leenock is solid, Boss toss is gettin better lately, and supernova...is meh like Lucky.

It's always interesting to see how BW players will do in SC2, esp when they are a step above the old crew (Boxer, Nada, July)
asdf
Zarathusta
Profile Joined September 2010
United States114 Posts
January 02 2012 01:52 GMT
#110
Group B because of oGsFin, ready to see him rise to the occasion in Code S or fall like so many other hopefuls. Supernova has a new chance for a new year. MC is MC. Leenock is still a top zerg. Tons of potential out of those players, so I can't vote for anyone else.

Still no doubt that I'm really excited to see how Idra does, and I always want Boxer to win
kiy0
Profile Joined August 2010
Portugal593 Posts
January 02 2012 02:02 GMT
#111
On January 01 2012 01:03 Abrafred wrote:
Group B so crazy. Much harder that Group C.


C has the undisputed best player in the world and three of the top 10 Zergs in the world. Though these might prove to be a walkover for MVP (considering out good he is against Z), it's pretty much impossible to predict who goes through. That means "hard."
Wisemen speak when they have something to say. Others speak when they have to say something.
growl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States203 Posts
January 02 2012 03:20 GMT
#112
Group B by far. Every one of those players is looking like one of the very best players of their race.
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
January 02 2012 04:07 GMT
#113
I'm much more excited for Leenock vs Fin/ForGG and Fin/ForGG vs MC
power-overwhelming
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada306 Posts
January 02 2012 05:33 GMT
#114
Lol its all fanboys. Right now Nestea is a tier below his old self, probably even lower. Leenock MC and Forgg > MVP Nestea and Lucky. Supernova > Idra. This is more like a popularity contest
Eire_91
Profile Joined December 2011
Ireland82 Posts
January 02 2012 05:58 GMT
#115
group B is the hardest imo
"Quick mudelisps er good bicuz deyre like lots of early whirlybirds" - Axslav 2013
aiuradun
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark115 Posts
January 02 2012 06:19 GMT
#116
I Would go with Group B as the hardest
naVaz
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany38 Posts
January 02 2012 06:20 GMT
#117
hmm "best group"... there a different understandings of this question. except the fanbois ofc, they instant vote c.

had to chose between c and b, took c.
Honga
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia64 Posts
January 02 2012 07:54 GMT
#118
Poor Idra.

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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
January 02 2012 08:49 GMT
#119
Group B looks scariest to me. Group C is close second, but fOrGG too good
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
catcher
Profile Joined July 2011
10 Posts
January 02 2012 12:41 GMT
#120
better then MVP???????? like who? i can see better then nestea at the moment but MVP??? how can anyone dispute hes the best player in the world right now?

Of course MVP is the most succesful player in sc2 history, but compared to his prime time he is in a bit of a slump. i mean he is still one of the best but i dont see him in the top 3 atm. imo at least leenock jjakji mma and drg are better and even if mvp is exactly on the same level, the rest of group b is better than the rest of group c. but that is only my opinion and i think this forum is here to post personal opinions.
jianming
Profile Joined November 2011
149 Posts
January 02 2012 13:24 GMT
#121
On January 02 2012 08:27 Mista_Masta wrote:
I think Mvp and NesTea in one group = autovote.


my thoughts exactly lol
MooLen
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany501 Posts
January 02 2012 14:34 GMT
#122

On January 01 2012 01:54 SC_Smoker wrote:

+ Show Spoiler +
Poor Idra!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlc0S8LLtsg



lol i never saw that before, made me laugh for like 1 minute
Makrel
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark150 Posts
January 02 2012 17:09 GMT
#123
Group B no doubt
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
January 02 2012 18:19 GMT
#124
I said F, because not all are all the players super good (omg Genius in the up/downs), but I think they're all fairly close.

It was hard though, all the groups look so good, even group G. In fact I'm surprised its only got 50 votes, I guess Alive is underrated and most people probably haven't heard of Brown yet.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
January 02 2012 18:22 GMT
#125
I voted for Group F - SC, JYP, DRG, Genius. I think this group is going to be very entertaining. Not the toughest group but definitely an interesting one.
o choro é livre
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
January 02 2012 19:14 GMT
#126
I think B is even more stacked than C.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
January 02 2012 19:25 GMT
#127
I think it's pretty obvious Lucky not so Lucky...
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DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
January 02 2012 19:45 GMT
#128
On January 01 2012 00:57 catcher wrote:
i think c is first because of idra fanboys, but its definitly not the hardest group. there are new better players coming than nestea and mvp are right now and 2012 will be their year.


LOL up and coming players better than Nestea and MVP? Please enlighten us all.
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
Flamingo777
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1190 Posts
January 02 2012 21:07 GMT
#129
Obviously group C. IdrA is quite a threat to MVP and NesTea despite what people are saying. At MLG, we saw IdrA making extremely close games when against NesTea. All in all, Group C will be a joy to watch!
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
January 03 2012 00:41 GMT
#130
Leenock + Fin > MVP + Nestea
MC > Idra
Supernova's code s performance > Lucky's first code S
Marines > everything
Haustka
Profile Joined August 2010
United States221 Posts
January 03 2012 01:05 GMT
#131
i dont see idra winning vs IMMVP, which means he somehow has to win vs nestea and lucky
possible he could get out of that group, but it will be miracle to pull that through
Power of Human Will
TranceKuja
Profile Joined May 2011
United States154 Posts
January 03 2012 01:22 GMT
#132
On January 02 2012 08:27 Mista_Masta wrote:
I think Mvp and NesTea in one group = autovote.

I agree with this. Idra just makes it a landslide.
Winning
Krogan
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden375 Posts
January 03 2012 02:08 GMT
#133
Is this shit still best of 1s or have they actually fixed the gsl this season? Well if its best of 3s I don't see Fin having any chance at all as his new cheese style seems pretty figured out already.
Wolvmatt.
Profile Joined April 2011
205 Posts
January 03 2012 02:18 GMT
#134
I like how Group C has the overwhelming majority of votes, but almost everybody in the comments has picked a group other than C.

Hipsters are very vocal apparently.
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
January 03 2012 02:19 GMT
#135
On January 03 2012 04:45 DreamChaser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 00:57 catcher wrote:
i think c is first because of idra fanboys, but its definitly not the hardest group. there are new better players coming than nestea and mvp are right now and 2012 will be their year.


LOL up and coming players better than Nestea and MVP? Please enlighten us all.

ForGG and leenock..??
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 02:24:05
January 03 2012 02:22 GMT
#136
On January 01 2012 01:13 Ozyallstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 00:57 catcher wrote:
i think c is first because of idra fanboys, but its definitly not the hardest group. there are new better players coming than nestea and mvp are right now and 2012 will be their year.


your a fool... mvp is the bonafied god of terran and he is undoubtedly the best player in the world. nestea is in a slump... but still he is enough to take down pretty much anybody in the world not named mma/mvp. just look at the global prize money of the individual players, noone else comes close to these guys

uhh if you want to call someone foolish perhaps you should use correct english? just an FYI it is "you are" not "your"

He also isn't foolish there are some up and coming players on the horizon and mvp as well as nestea both haven't been impressing me in the past two months or so. I don't really want to call it a slump, I feel more like it is they are being outstripped by players becoming better than them at a faster pace.
thesums
Profile Joined December 2010
Taiwan257 Posts
January 03 2012 03:25 GMT
#137
best players in the game would be the players who were good at BW, which would be MVP and FIN hands down. so group C or B.
dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 03:47:12
January 03 2012 03:46 GMT
#138
It's funny how the LARGE majority of people who voted put group C, the only one there who is great is MVP, NesTea is still not top code S material anymore.. sorry guys. DongRaeGu is already better than him, and Leenock as well. If I had to pick a difficult group it would be B mainly because Idra and Lucky are not well rounded enough to be Code S, while Leenock, fOrGG, SuperNoVa, MC are all great players.

TL;DR
Group B, definitely.
Don't let those anti-cheese advocates tell you what to do. Rush to meet life head on!
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
January 03 2012 05:03 GMT
#139
The group C winners are obvious. Nestea and MVP will be the top 2 easily. Group B is going to be the real group of death. Everyone in that one has something to prove.
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seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
January 03 2012 05:23 GMT
#140
It depends how you define how "hard" a group is.

Is it that a group has the best players for the spots to proceed, then random people for the other two spots? That's obviously group C.
Or is it that the group has great players who are all near each others skill level, so you can't tell who will make it out? That's obviously B.
fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
January 03 2012 06:54 GMT
#141
i almost choked on my drink when i was browsing through the RO32 lineup and saw group C. poor grack
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
January 03 2012 12:25 GMT
#142
Apparently there are no Zenio fans on this site (Then again, he isn't on the Team page on LiquidPro either). Group E for the win! I wanna see a match between YugiOh and MMA, their such beasts, and I'm interested in how good Zenio is when put in a group like that. Oh yeah, and I'll be tracking the group incase Gumiho does a surprise kill.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
January 03 2012 14:00 GMT
#143
group B is definitely going to be the most interesting. of course everyone's going to vote for C though because idra/nestea/mvp are the most popular players atm. personally i don't think it will be very interesting to watch, though.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
January 03 2012 14:01 GMT
#144
C, obviously. Both MVP and Nestea in one group is just brutal, then add in IdrA to the mix to crush our hopes... darn.
Coolhwip
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 16:50:38
January 03 2012 16:39 GMT
#145
Voted group G. 4 very good and very under rated players. Noone of them are superfamous or supergood(top5) but overall the highest average level imo.
crack
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
January 03 2012 19:24 GMT
#146
It's pretty clear which group people think is the best, I guess. Same for me. At least the most difficult group.
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ArchoN[VenoM]
Profile Joined January 2010
United States90 Posts
January 03 2012 19:52 GMT
#147
IDRA Fighting
Life with every breath ~Bushido
ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
January 03 2012 20:40 GMT
#148
i voted for best as in best to watch ( aka. not a million zergs vs mvp) and for me it's group d: 3 really good players and we get to see inca vs oz
bisu
pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
January 03 2012 20:59 GMT
#149
I don't think that there are any doubts that group C is the hardest group.
OgsStump
Profile Joined March 2011
128 Posts
January 03 2012 21:05 GMT
#150
Not trying to hate but i think Artosis' unonditional love for Nestea has affected some people's judgement. While the MVP, Nestea, Idra, Lucky group could very well be the toughest I wouldn't say it's as clear cut as the poll says. Nestea has looked pretty bad in the late game and hasn't been on the level artosis claims in quite some time. I think the MC, Fin, Lenock, Supernova group could be tougher and expect one of those players to be in the finals.
Silmu
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland34 Posts
January 03 2012 22:11 GMT
#151
A and B look really tough, and on second thought I propably would have chosen B, but went for C
Better to make a mistake and win than to not make a mistake and lose -PsY
darkxzzy
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany31 Posts
January 03 2012 22:41 GMT
#152
group c sucks so much zvz
WiStEc
Profile Joined January 2008
Norway8 Posts
January 03 2012 23:31 GMT
#153
put MC to group C with MVP, IdrA and Nestea! DAT GROUP
Miscellany
Profile Joined September 2011
Wales125 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 23:47:54
January 03 2012 23:45 GMT
#154
Group D looks pretty chaotic and awesome. I wouldn't dare try to pick a winner. 3 players who have shown flashes of brilliance (bomber, curious, oz) but have had questionable consistency, and InCa, back to prove that 2nd wasn't a fluke. The former 3 all have a good shot at winning the entire thing.

Also, I think Nestea's suffering from Clide syndrome (and the recent metagame shifts aren't favouring him) and is not going to get through to the ro16. Jus' my opinion.

Edit: group F and group B also look O_O. Everything else is a bit too predictable (although upsets are always interesting)
Rarak
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia631 Posts
January 04 2012 01:49 GMT
#155
On January 04 2012 01:39 Coolhwip wrote:
Voted group G. 4 very good and very under rated players. Noone of them are superfamous or supergood(top5) but overall the highest average level imo.


Looks like nobody agrees with you... they are some of the weakest of Code S imo hence the 0%.
theatreofwar
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada60 Posts
January 04 2012 05:10 GMT
#156
Honestly I think groups A, B, and C all have promising games. I feel bad for Idra but it'd still be interesting to see how he does
Ouga
Profile Joined March 2008
Finland645 Posts
January 04 2012 07:16 GMT
#157
All groups are good. C is completely overhyped. MVP/nestea have slumped slightly (yeah, MVP losing to MMA/leenock may not count as slumping but) and idra ofc doesn't belong to code S atm. I'm happy if proven wrong but that's fair assumption

I voted B, mostly since this is stupid topic if everyone bet C, even if it was the toughest. But B is definately most interesting imo - leenock/MC are awesome and both still potential finalists. Everybody want to see forGG own now, and supernova ain't bad either, eventhough I hope he doesn't move on from that
deMyT
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1 Post
January 04 2012 14:44 GMT
#158
group C for sure!
TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
January 04 2012 17:09 GMT
#159
On January 01 2012 00:57 catcher wrote:
i think c is first because of idra fanboys, but its definitly not the hardest group. there are new better players coming than nestea and mvp are right now and 2012 will be their year.


LOL yeah parting and brown are so much better than MVP and Nestea.
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Morphie
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands4 Posts
January 04 2012 17:24 GMT
#160
Can't w8 to see how far ForGG will go this season. Combine that with Leenock and MC i think group B is the toughest group.
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough
izual155
Profile Joined September 2011
United States48 Posts
January 04 2012 17:35 GMT
#161
if idra beats his group he wins gsl unless he plays a protoss at the very end then i guess gg for him
iguanalnb
Profile Joined May 2011
Argentina1 Post
January 04 2012 18:32 GMT
#162
Go go MVP - Go go Nestea - Go go Lucky !!
Vaapad
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway171 Posts
January 04 2012 21:21 GMT
#163
Showem noobs in GSL how its done Idra, so well have a good gsl winner this time!!!

(you dont understand sarcasm if you fell for that)
anyways cheering for u grack!


Duty is heavier than a mountain. Death, lighter than a feather
Sniper937
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada23 Posts
January 05 2012 01:43 GMT
#164
lucky doesnt look very lucky
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
January 05 2012 01:47 GMT
#165
On January 05 2012 03:32 iguanalnb wrote:
Go go MVP - Go go Nestea - Go go Lucky !!


Hmmm no questions about who you don't like
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
CryCLL
Profile Joined January 2012
7 Posts
January 05 2012 08:00 GMT
#166
Poor group G lol
MrNatURaL
Profile Joined December 2011
1 Post
January 05 2012 10:38 GMT
#167
i votes A and for one reaosn only... Boxer's in it... although group C is by far and away the hardest... assuming they dont all get a free win from rage quits...
Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
January 05 2012 15:08 GMT
#168
Groups A, B & C are all crazy !!!
twitter@RickyMarou
StateAlchemist
Profile Joined January 2011
France1946 Posts
January 05 2012 16:50 GMT
#169
Group C o:
price
Profile Joined December 2010
United States297 Posts
January 05 2012 21:30 GMT
#170
group C should be replayed after it's over just because it would be sick to see it all again
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
January 05 2012 22:37 GMT
#171
I guess Lucky has....run out of luck! :B
Vul
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States685 Posts
January 06 2012 04:51 GMT
#172
I have a feeling ForGG is the best player in the tournament. I know he's the flavor of the month guy and ultimately he's not as proven as MVP and MMA, but I can't bet against him right now. I'm definitely going to watch his group, I want to see that game against Leenock especially.

That said, Sen and Boxer in the same group? That one's my favorite
Shebuha
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1335 Posts
January 06 2012 06:50 GMT
#173
Group C has best players / is the hardest group it seems, but my favourite group is F I think.
Skwid1g
Profile Joined April 2011
United States953 Posts
January 06 2012 16:42 GMT
#174
On January 01 2012 09:06 -WizardsIeZa- wrote:
Option C 71%??... because IdrA in this group??Come one guys......... NesTea and Mvp and the clear favorites and the will advance at 90% ...but tell me ...who will advance in group B? SuperNova,MC,Leenock,ForGG.... is the harder group for sure.

Edit: Ok i read the coments and is obvious that the group C have this 71% because Mvp,NesTea and IdrA have many fanboys.


... ? Your interpretation of "best" isn't the only one.

MVP is the best player in sc2 right now, Nestea has been the best Zerg for a while, Idra is making his comeback to Code S, and Lucky is actually quite good.
NaDa/Fantasy/Zero/Soulkey pls
KangaRuthless
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States304 Posts
January 06 2012 20:34 GMT
#175
Why isn't group B higher up? That is the true group of death.
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Merikh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States918 Posts
January 06 2012 21:14 GMT
#176
ForGG group, haters gonna hate.
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GodOfWar
Profile Joined December 2011
870 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 07:54:30
January 07 2012 07:53 GMT
#177
B is harder than A

MC, Leenock and ForGG are all considered top tier players, while NesTea is in a slump and IdrA remains to be seen.

Also SuperNoVa is most likely better than Lucky.
Mvp Moon Squirtle
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
January 07 2012 17:55 GMT
#178
mvp and nestea make the group the best the rest are just along for the ride
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
aurigenesis
Profile Joined October 2010
32 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 18:10:24
January 07 2012 18:09 GMT
#179
Group D - The Dark Knight "oGs Inca"
jyuj
Profile Joined October 2007
Australia103 Posts
January 07 2012 20:40 GMT
#180
GL Idra !
Frostfire
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States419 Posts
January 07 2012 23:42 GMT
#181
Group E <3
"In solitude, we are least alone"
DrivE
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States2554 Posts
January 08 2012 00:55 GMT
#182
C by far
LUCK IS NO EXCUSE
wunsun
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada622 Posts
January 08 2012 02:52 GMT
#183
Group C, thought almost every group seems pretty damn hard.
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
January 08 2012 14:46 GMT
#184
How the hell are so many people choosing C? A bunch of ZvZs, when there's an equally star-heavy group with great race mix-up in B.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
Hexxed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States202 Posts
January 08 2012 20:02 GMT
#185
I think group B is much more interesting. They are all the really big and up coming names or come back kings that are easy to cheer for.
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noobstarq
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany38 Posts
January 09 2012 01:12 GMT
#186
MC hardest group anyways.
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
January 09 2012 04:08 GMT
#187
I'm picking the group with 2 multiple GSL champions who are both contested as the best players in the world combined both with insane TvZ and ZvZ vs a very talented foreigner and then...lucky lol
PraiseB
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia135 Posts
January 09 2012 05:25 GMT
#188
GoGoGo BoxeR, GL,
DanielxD
Profile Joined August 2011
Peru52 Posts
January 09 2012 05:35 GMT
#189
Group C
Toyosatomimi no Miko <3!!
Tehweenus
Profile Joined December 2011
United States27 Posts
January 09 2012 07:18 GMT
#190
People obsessing about the past GSL winners in group C.
Group B is where all the future stars are.
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
January 09 2012 10:21 GMT
#191
why do people think group C is the hardest by far? Nestea is in a slight slump and idra is probably one of the weakest players in code S. I'd call group B harder really
Zergmeister
Profile Joined August 2011
Denmark56 Posts
January 09 2012 14:09 GMT
#192
Group C by far.

Idra, Nestea and MvP is still the very best players in the world.
You can argue all you want, but these guys will be the ones who will deliver the best games.
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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
January 09 2012 15:15 GMT
#193
B would be my guess, I like A as well. C is full of famous players, which is why I think it is first.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Zulueta
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany28 Posts
January 09 2012 16:02 GMT
#194
On January 01 2012 00:57 catcher wrote:
i think c is first because of idra fanboys, but its definitly not the hardest group. there are new better players coming than nestea and mvp are right now and 2012 will be their year.


there is nothing that says "hardest group"!
best can stand for many things. entertainment, fun, most exciting. nothing to complain about
KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
January 09 2012 18:11 GMT
#195
I think group B is clearly the best in terms of the number of players who are close in skill. I have no idea who will make it out of that group and neither does anyone else.

As for group C, I think it's quite clear that MVP and Nestea will advance, with MVP winning the group maybe 7/10 times. Though I love me some MVP TvX, it's a pretty forgone conclusion as to who will win.
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liberal
Profile Joined November 2011
1116 Posts
January 09 2012 20:40 GMT
#196
I love how group C has 6 GSL championship wins and people are confused why group C is winning by such a huge margin lol...

If you wanna say past GSL wins are irrelevant today you can, but you would be wrong. Also Idra fighting.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
January 09 2012 20:55 GMT
#197
On January 07 2012 01:42 Skwid1g wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 09:06 -WizardsIeZa- wrote:
Option C 71%??... because IdrA in this group??Come one guys......... NesTea and Mvp and the clear favorites and the will advance at 90% ...but tell me ...who will advance in group B? SuperNova,MC,Leenock,ForGG.... is the harder group for sure.

Edit: Ok i read the coments and is obvious that the group C have this 71% because Mvp,NesTea and IdrA have many fanboys.


... ? Your interpretation of "best" isn't the only one.

MVP is the best player in sc2 right now, Nestea has been the best Zerg for a while, Idra is making his comeback to Code S, and Lucky is actually quite good.


Indeed. In fact I kind of hate Idra, still voted for group C tho for the above reasons. Plus if IdrA wins I won't hate him anymore. But Nestea and MVP in the same group? ALWAYS good times. Time now to see if lucky's ZvT or ZvZ are starting to catch up to his ZvP... Doubt it but it'll be interesting.
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Therg
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden238 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 21:00:25
January 09 2012 21:00 GMT
#198
I went with group B.

I can understand why people would choose group C, since it has both MVP and Nestea. But tbh, Nestea hasn't looked really scary for awhile, and lucky and Idra has to be two of the worst players in those Code S groups.
sorrowptoss
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1431 Posts
January 09 2012 22:04 GMT
#199
I personally think the idra groupe is a total slaughterhouse.
onedayclose
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1145 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 01:35:29
January 10 2012 01:35 GMT
#200
Whenever IdrA plays in GSL he will ALWAYS be the in the BEST group HANDS DOWN!!! Followed closely by Jinro!
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
January 10 2012 04:40 GMT
#201
IdrA's got his work cut out for him. Does anybody know how good Lucky's ZvZ is?
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Skates
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom8 Posts
January 10 2012 14:36 GMT
#202
Damn. My prediction is Idra (2) v Mvp (3)
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
January 10 2012 17:31 GMT
#203
c by far, and its tonight ! omg
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boyle
Profile Joined March 2011
United States134 Posts
January 10 2012 18:40 GMT
#204
why is this a poll? fact... grp c
drlame
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden574 Posts
January 10 2012 22:25 GMT
#205
In retrospect, the matches in grp B were hella boring to watch.
grandkai
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada71 Posts
January 10 2012 22:36 GMT
#206
I hope Idra does well in his bracket, that will fuel the fire for MLG
bikefrog
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway451 Posts
January 11 2012 07:43 GMT
#207
Group C is a joke.
Foreigners fighting! Ovethrow our Korean overlords!
BlacKcuD
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany107 Posts
January 11 2012 15:24 GMT
#208
Actually I am NOT looking forward to see group C besides three of my favourite players are in it.
Avid map maker and e-sport enthusiast.
Audacitysc2
Profile Joined September 2011
United States8 Posts
January 12 2012 14:15 GMT
#209
Man MC is for sure the best! plus he in in he same group as leenock to kid korean wonder haha
Starcraft will always be my game!
Madars
Profile Joined December 2011
Latvia166 Posts
January 12 2012 14:21 GMT
#210
Group C is the best, group b is the hardest...
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ROFLOLLER
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland65 Posts
January 12 2012 14:32 GMT
#211
MVP and Nestea had easy group. B - Leenock, Fin, Supernova, MC !
Nakwa
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden93 Posts
January 12 2012 16:42 GMT
#212
Can't wait to see group H
Midnight come and we wanna go home
blackbrrd
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway477 Posts
January 12 2012 20:56 GMT
#213
Having the two most winning champions in the same group = killer group from hell. It wasn't the most enjoyable group to watch though, I really liked the other three groups better for entertaintment.
Drunkface
Profile Joined November 2010
United States46 Posts
January 13 2012 18:05 GMT
#214
Uninformed fanboy pick, group C
Intellegent pick, group B
"Maybe because my face look like ugly?"-DongRaeGu when asked why he doesn't have a girlfriend.
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
January 14 2012 01:41 GMT
#215
I had to go with Leenock and fOrGG. GanZi/Boxer/Sen was a close 2nd. Picking based on personal preference
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Cosmos
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium1077 Posts
January 15 2012 20:08 GMT
#216
I voted F but I didn't recognize FIn was forGG, B is the hardest no doubt about it
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