• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:13
CEST 07:13
KST 14:13
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon4[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway13
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues22LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments3Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?39Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris76
StarCraft 2
General
Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy [G] How to watch Korean progamer Streams. Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris WardiTV Mondays Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast
Brood War
General
alas... i aint gon' lie to u bruh... BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ The Korean Terminology Thread
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group A [ASL20] Ro16 Group B [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Is there English video for group selection for ASL
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Iron Harvest: 1920+ Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Collective Intelligence: Tea…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1529 users

[PL] All Along The Watchtower - Page 3

Forum Index > News
53 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 All
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
July 05 2009 11:59 GMT
#41
On July 05 2009 19:47 sythax wrote:
Jimmy hendrix or Bob Dylan?

which am i supposed to be listening to?


Or Bear McCreary. Or U2..
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
July 05 2009 12:09 GMT
#42
Great writeup riptide. I like your news posts.
[iHs]HCO | のヮの | pachi & plexa ownz | RIP _
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
July 05 2009 12:56 GMT
#43
On July 05 2009 20:59 jtype wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2009 19:47 sythax wrote:
Jimmy hendrix or Bob Dylan?

which am i supposed to be listening to?


Or Bear McCreary. Or U2..
Bear McCreary imho (although I love Hendrix)
ModeratorHi! I'm a .signature *virus*! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread!
Lovin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark812 Posts
July 05 2009 13:14 GMT
#44
+ Show Spoiler +


We cannot call a thread All Along the Watchtowers without the damn song in the thread!
AKA SuddenSalad
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
July 05 2009 14:33 GMT
#45
Great numbercrunching and write-up/forecast. I dedicated my 1000th post to this in appreciation.
觀過斯知仁矣.
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
July 05 2009 16:01 GMT
#46
excellent writeup, i enjoyed every bit of it. thanks a ton guys, can't wait to see how the season ends, hopefully Oz being #1
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
-slo.m1ke-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Slovenia352 Posts
July 05 2009 16:03 GMT
#47
That was one uber epic sick game by Yellow! Just... WOW...
qaswedfr25
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States212 Posts
July 05 2009 17:02 GMT
#48
ACE for 1st place Shinhan Bank Proleague 2009-2010
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
July 05 2009 19:51 GMT
#49
YellOw is such a monster..
♣ Jaedong. Stork. Bisu. Calm. NaDa. SC2: Sen, MKP, DRG, MMA, Grubby, NonY, Ret, Jinro, TLO, Sheth, HayprO, Zenio,Taeja,Snute, Sea, Rain, MC,Squirtle,Stephano,Parting ,Life, and HEROOOOO <3
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
July 06 2009 05:46 GMT
#50
somehow, i dont think STX is actually aiming for number 2. no Kal? the only regular members are calm, and to some extent, modesty.
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-06 07:33:07
July 06 2009 06:02 GMT
#51
On July 06 2009 14:46 29 fps wrote:
somehow, i dont think STX is actually aiming for number 2. no Kal? the only regular members are calm, and to some extent, modesty.


It would appear this way! I didn't think to look at lineups when I wrote this, I've been too baffled for the past 2 weeks about KHAN's absurd lineups in the past few weeks. I get the feeling that at the end of the season teams care more about giving smaller names their shot rather than really trying to grab the #2 spot, or in KHAN's case any spot at all. Dunno if its because they care less about PL or don't think the advantage of auto-seeding is big or think they have an advantage anyway (STX might fall into that category, their team transitions fine into a bo7).

It looks like I have an error in the expected table, I think I'm not crediting SKT for a win. Some of the other numbers are going to be slightly off because it doesn't account for the matches played in week 6 - it is also possible that I missed something in translation because the table was originally done for a while ago but I've been updating it as I get too lazy to finish writing/posting.

I also take responsibility for some of the numbers being slightly off, Riptide asked me about it twice and I never looked into it seriously. I was too dumb to remember that WL had playoffs that are not officially counted in standings.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Pyrthas
Profile Joined March 2007
United States3196 Posts
July 06 2009 13:29 GMT
#52
On July 06 2009 15:02 heyoka wrote:
I get the feeling that at the end of the season teams care more about giving smaller names their shot rather than really trying to grab the #2 spot, or in KHAN's case any spot at all. Dunno if its because they care less about PL or don't think the advantage of auto-seeding is big or think they have an advantage anyway (STX might fall into that category, their team transitions fine into a bo7).

It might also be a chance to give some of the people they're going to need in a bo7 a little more experience and practice to get them into shape. Of course, this is all speculation, but it seems reasonable to me. + Show Spoiler [stx vs kt results] +
And hey, Kal still showed up in the ace match!
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8114 Posts
July 09 2009 01:29 GMT
#53
man seeding places 1 and 2 is so lame. they won 3 more match than STX and now they are SEEDED into a final? maybe seeded into round 2 of a Ro8 style-tournament would be far more fair (IE 3rd vs 6th plays 2nd spot, 4 vs 5 plays 1st, winners play each other in final). It's a fucking gauntlet to run for 6th-3rd place. I hope next proleague they dont give 1st and 2nd place some great seeds :\
Free Palestine
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-09 04:40:25
July 09 2009 04:40 GMT
#54
It's really no different than it was before though. Except that it used to be with 4 teams.

1st playoff match: #4 vs #3
2nd playoff match: #2 vs winner of 1st playoff match

final: #1 vs winner of 2nd playoff match
ModeratorHi! I'm a .signature *virus*! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread!
Prev 1 2 3 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
00:00
Mid Season Playoffs #2
ReBellioN vs PAPI
Spirit vs TBD
Percival vs TBD
TriGGeR vs TBD
Shameless vs UedSoldier
Cham vs TBD
Harstem vs TBD
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 154
StarCraft: Brood War
Leta 290
sSak 66
Noble 21
Bale 14
Icarus 10
League of Legends
JimRising 793
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K482
Other Games
WinterStarcraft576
C9.Mang0392
hungrybox268
semphis_30
Mew2King21
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1325
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 33
• OhrlRock 6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Diggity5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21429
League of Legends
• Lourlo778
Other Games
• Scarra997
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
4h 47m
Cure vs SHIN
Reynor vs Zoun
Kung Fu Cup
6h 47m
TaeJa vs SHIN
ByuN vs Creator
The PondCast
7h 47m
RSL Revival
1d 4h
Classic vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Maru
Online Event
1d 6h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 6h
BSL Team Wars
1d 13h
RSL Revival
2 days
Maestros of the Game
2 days
ShoWTimE vs Classic
Clem vs herO
Serral vs Bunny
Reynor vs Zoun
Cosmonarchy
2 days
Bonyth vs Dewalt
[ Show More ]
[BSL 2025] Weekly
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Maestros of the Game
3 days
BSL Team Wars
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Snow vs Sharp
Jaedong vs Mini
Wardi Open
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Light vs Speed
Larva vs Soma
LiuLi Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Copa Latinoamericana 4
SEL Season 2 Championship
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL Polish World Championship 2025
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
EC S1
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.