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What is up with Liquipedia - Volume I

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What is up with Liquipedia - Volume I

Text byAesop
June 26th, 2009 07:40 GMT
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What's up with Liquipedia? Volume I


Some stats to kick off
300 content pages at release. Now we have 719. We are approaching 14000 total edits. Our views have reached 420K.

We are getting there. If you haven't checked out Liquipedia yet (shame on you!), it's just under the big "QU" in the horses banner or directly at http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Main_Page

Status Quo
The Progaming section has finally officially been opened on Liquipedia. What exactly do we want here? Well, pretty much anything and everything you could think about to do with Progaming. Be it a Team history, Player biography, Tournament Results, Revolutionary Series... the list goes on - and it all has a home on Liquipedia where it can be immortalized. Unsure of how to get started? Well you can first check out some great articles that are already in place. The Boxer article and the Bisu article are great examples of Player pages. You could check out the SK T1 page for a good example of a Team page.

We are also now updated the front page of Liquipedia with weekly news. On the front page this week we have the unit size diagram as our weekly picture, and the Zerg strategy guides as our weekly work in progress. We also have our first wave of promotions: Sunhay and Ideas! Both will join the reviewer team for Liquipedia. Sunhay has been doing some incredible work with progaming Players and Teams, as well as drafting concise tables and charts. The front page mockup is just one example of Sunhay's work. Ideas has been a monster when it comes to edits regarding information and players. He relentlessly applies the Style Guide, and has shown promise on the reviewer staff.

We are always looking for new personnel, and every time we see a good edit of yours, we take note of you. Good and steady work is the best method to receive attention, and we'll surely get to you when we need you. However, we will initially limit the amount of promotions, simply so we can help work with candidates one-on-one.

What are we focusing on this week?
We want to become the most up-to-date and concise strategic resource on Starcraft outside of Korea. For that we need your help. It's very easy. Did you see a game on TV? Do you have a favorite Strategy that you'd like to share? Did you find a good post in the Strategy Forum of encyclopedic value? Just take the time to sit down and write it up. If there is good substance in it, Liquipedia will make it great. We promise.

If you are unsure about the correct syntax, either get help on IRC or PM staff (Aesop, cgrinker, GHOSTCLAW, mikeymoo) on here. Our second weekly objective is giving each player some love with a sufficient profile. This should be easy for you guys - seeing as everyone loves to talk about their favorite player in explicit detail. The easiest way for you to help is to simply add in any notable features about your player of choice such as:
- Style
- Achievements
- Rivals
- Great games
All of the above, plus anything else you can think of which is relevant, has a place on the players Liquipedia profile. Just one small note, please only use NeverGG picture for player pictures - those are the only ones we can use due to copyright.

If you are looking for things that should be fixed, or maybe added to, see the list of short pages. We also have various stub templates that mark still unfinished pages and put them into the Stub Category.

Users at Work
Liquipedia is nothing without those highly motivated users that spend hours and days making the world of liquipedia a little better. We have asked two a few simple questions.


+ Show Spoiler [Candidate one] +
LP: What led you to Liquipedia?

Mystlord: Initially, I didn't pay too much attention to Liquipedia. I saw the news post and never gave it much thought. Then, I saw some Liquipedia administrator's post in the Strategy forum entitled "Why don't you people edit Liquipedia" or something to that effect. From there, I realized that a lot of the pages were rather sparse or missing entirely, so I decided to contribute to help the community out.

LP: What is - to you - most fun about Liquipedia?

Mystlord: I think the most fun part about Liquipedia is the opportunity to just edit. I'm not exactly sure what keeps me going while I edit some especially tedious stuff, but I just love to spend time on the wiki and look at what other people are editting and how I can help more. I guess I just like the large element of freedom on Liquipedia as compared to the Strategy forum. The Strategy forum just seemed to be very constricting in its rules and regulations, and Liquipedia gave me the freedom to just do whatever I wanted to do.

LP: What are your wishes/goals for the future of Liquipedia?

Mystlord: I originally was a member of SC2GG, but I started to come to Team Liquid more once the traffic over there had started to die down. I never really realized the lack of cohesion between the Starcraft communities, but I think Liquipedia has potential to be a point where all Starcraft websites can converge. Considering that SC2GG and GosuGamers don't have the resources to pull off something like this, I think that all users from all communities can contribute to Liquipedia and form at least some bond between communities before Starcraft 2 comes out.

+ Show Spoiler [Candidate two] +
stet_tcl: whats up?

LP: Yo! Interview time!

stet_tcl: huh?

LP: What led you to Liquipedia?

*silence*

LP: Take your time.

stet_tcl: umm teamliquid i guess ^^

LP: Okay, imagine someone would read this posted somewhere. Would you answer the same way?

stet_tcl: argh

LP: What led you to Liquipedia?

stet_tcl: I'm a big theory craft junkie and a big pile of info on Starcraft is exactly what I'm attracted to. Note: forgive me if I say complete nonsense, I get stage fright.

LP: haha, you dont have to. You do so well on editing. This is just IRC! Just relax, take your time.

stet_tcl: I'll do my best. gogog

LP: there is no right and wrong. Only you saying what's on your heart. What is most fun about Liquipedia?

stet_tcl: It's not just one person writing a guide, it's collective. I find that very nice

LP: What motivates you to contribute?

stet_tcl: I spend a lot of time playing Starcraft and thinking about Starcraft, so Liquipedia is a chance for me to be creative on a subject I love. But being able to give something back to the community is probably the most important factor since I haven't been able to do so until now.

LP: What are your wishes/goals for the future of Liquipedia?

stet_tcl: hmm. The most important thing is for it to become the biggest and most complete source of information about SC there is. But i think this has already been accomplished. Still, there is a lot to be done...

LP: (done? I dont want to break this moment!)

stet_tcl: ..and hopefully with time subjects analyzed will be more and more in depth on all aspects of the game

stet_tcl: ^major syntax/wording errors?

LP: haha, no. And if, it will be authentic. Okay, you did great, really. You might or might not read or read not your words or others at a place or none in near or far future or past.

stet_tcl: lol haha. kk.


Final Words
Don't be scared to edit. We are there to help and we'll do everything possible, to make your edits count. Even if you can't conform to the style guide, or simply struggle with English, the Liquipedia staff will take your edits and turn them into something useful. Come hang out in #liquipedia on quakenet and the next installment might have you in it!

Questions? Comments? Drop us a line in the Liquipedia Feedback Thread


Useful Liquipedia Links:
Liquipedia Feedback Thread
Liquipedia Players Page
Terran Strategy Workshop
Liquipedia Teams Page
PM a Liquipedia Staff Member: Aesop, cgrinker, GHOSTCLAW, mikeymoo
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Deleted User 39582
Profile Joined August 2008
317 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-28 15:46:39
June 28 2009 15:45 GMT
#2
wow first reply :D
btw, sorry again for my little edit in the bisu page
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
June 28 2009 15:53 GMT
#3
liquipedia is awesome
cept i know too little to contribute anyways. (only been following progaming for 3-ish years on and off, and i suck at SC)

what can people like me to do to help anyways?
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
ZhenMiChan
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Netherlands1181 Posts
June 28 2009 15:54 GMT
#4
thats great, this is one of the best things teamliquid ever did!!

gonna help to contribute
Studying Chinese~
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
June 28 2009 15:55 GMT
#5
Thanks for the update Aesop. Yeah I have some work to do in Liquipedia...finishing up adapting Chill's timing article! This was a good reminder.

Keep up the super work, Liquipedia staff and contributors!
✌
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
June 28 2009 15:56 GMT
#6
On June 29 2009 00:53 Mykill wrote:
liquipedia is awesome
cept i know too little to contribute anyways. (only been following progaming for 3-ish years on and off, and i suck at SC)

what can people like me to do to help anyways?

Tons! Edit to improve grammar and writing, add VOD links or pictures, adapt articles from the Strategy forum for Liquipedia...
✌
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-28 15:58:40
June 28 2009 15:57 GMT
#7
On June 29 2009 00:53 Mykill wrote:
liquipedia is awesome
cept i know too little to contribute anyways. (only been following progaming for 3-ish years on and off, and i suck at SC)

what can people like me to do to help anyways?

You'd be surprised at how much you can add if you just focus on one thing. For instance, if you want to add a page about YellOw, there is a myriad of information around TL in various interviews and progaming tidbits which you can find with the search function and add to the yellow article. It's just going to be a long a painful process transferring as much of the information on the forums into Liquipedia.
On June 29 2009 00:45 QuasiMachina wrote:
wow first reply :D
btw, sorry again for my little edit in the bisu page

Yea don't bother trying to fuck with liquipedia. We've already had people try and well, their edits dont ever see the light of day.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
June 28 2009 15:58 GMT
#8
The Liquipedia is glorious and beautiful and informative. I love the useful links in each page cross-referencing other pages that might be of interest, the links to epic games in the player pages, the amount of information is like a summary of all the major threads and recommendations for teams/playes/strategies. Everyone involved in this is awesome. Keep up the great work.
Peace~
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
June 28 2009 16:01 GMT
#9
On June 29 2009 00:53 Mykill wrote:
liquipedia is awesome
cept i know too little to contribute anyways. (only been following progaming for 3-ish years on and off, and i suck at SC)

what can people like me to do to help anyways?

lol this is exactly what I thought when I hopped on board. There's loads to do, though.
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Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
June 28 2009 16:01 GMT
#10
time to a grammar nazi! XD

*gets uniform and trolls liquipedia*
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
Ranix
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States666 Posts
June 28 2009 16:12 GMT
#11
Liquipedia has proven to be a good resource time and time again
Legends never gg
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
June 28 2009 16:13 GMT
#12
wow, written summaries of all games?
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24740 Posts
June 28 2009 16:14 GMT
#13
On June 29 2009 01:01 Mykill wrote:
time to a grammar nazi! XD

lol

I'll continue to make random edits to wikipedia here and there.
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o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-28 16:16:48
June 28 2009 16:15 GMT
#14
This sucks...
+ Show Spoiler +
watching everyone contribute while I sit here unable to due to limited knowledge of the game T_T. The only sections I can contribute to properly would probably be the players section


+ Show Spoiler +
Nice write up :D


Edit:
+ Show Spoiler +
<3 Liquipedia
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
June 28 2009 16:25 GMT
#15
On June 29 2009 01:13 omninmo wrote:
wow, written summaries of all games?

It's probably a bit ambitious... But I see no reason that can't happen for various important finals like Bisu/Savior.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
June 28 2009 16:37 GMT
#16
great writeup aesop ^^
PhotographerLiquipedia. Drop me a pm if you've got questions/need help.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
June 28 2009 17:17 GMT
#17
On June 29 2009 01:25 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2009 01:13 omninmo wrote:
wow, written summaries of all games?

It's probably a bit ambitious... But I see no reason that can't happen for various important finals like Bisu/Savior.

I totally agree, I think it should be rather easy due to the TLPD VOD database, the LR threads, the summary threads from previous tournaments... Doing summaries of most SL games should be a cakewalk with enough contributors. This is something I might have to start doing n_n It would be a fucking awesome feature.
Peace~
nicoaldo
Profile Joined March 2009
Argentina939 Posts
June 28 2009 17:23 GMT
#18
i don't know if this has been done but an article with transcriptions of Day[9]´s Podcasts or the audios with some kind of summary would be very nice.
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
June 28 2009 17:53 GMT
#19
Perhaps you could also give some tutorials on how to work on wikipedia. Myself, for example, have never changed any pages before and have no idea how to do it or what to do in general.
:]
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
June 28 2009 17:57 GMT
#20
On June 29 2009 02:53 illu wrote:
Perhaps you could also give some tutorials on how to work on wikipedia. Myself, for example, have never changed any pages before and have no idea how to do it or what to do in general.

Theres a lot of information on Liquipedia regarding this
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Help:Contents
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Liquipedia:How_to_Contribute
In particular should set you straight.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
June 28 2009 18:47 GMT
#21
that help contents page should be the most useful, but no one looks at it -_-; it's also linked through the front page on liquipedia.
PhotographerLiquipedia. Drop me a pm if you've got questions/need help.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
June 28 2009 19:03 GMT
#22
Yes, I agree wholeheartedly.

Liquipedia rocks.
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CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
June 28 2009 19:06 GMT
#23
i love it, its a gorgeous thing... but some of us are just not knowlegable enough to edit that thing. id be guessing....
i hope you get all the partcipation you are looking for and i think its a great idea. i really wish i had been this into starcraft 6 years ago, but im really behind.

thank you for putting this thing together... all of you :D
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
June 28 2009 19:22 GMT
#24
On June 29 2009 02:57 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2009 02:53 illu wrote:
Perhaps you could also give some tutorials on how to work on wikipedia. Myself, for example, have never changed any pages before and have no idea how to do it or what to do in general.

Theres a lot of information on Liquipedia regarding this
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Help:Contents
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Liquipedia:How_to_Contribute
In particular should set you straight.


Thanks.
:]
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-28 20:51:49
June 28 2009 20:51 GMT
#25
liquidpedia just needs more advertisement like this~ GL
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Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
June 28 2009 21:07 GMT
#26
nice work guys
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11304 Posts
June 28 2009 21:42 GMT
#27
I'd just like to point out that the two interviewees are really doing a tremendous amount of work, so the spotlight is well-deserved.
ModeratorNon veritas sed auctoritas facit legem. | Liquipedia: Don't ask me, I'm retired.
VorcePA
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1102 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-28 22:21:07
June 28 2009 22:19 GMT
#28
Quick question: I've made a few liquipedia edits/pages, and I was wondering -- should we only make pages/edits centering solely around Starcraft multiplayer competition, or is this a complete Starcraft Wiki?

By that I mean should liqupedia also include pages about starcraft lore, history, the single player campaign, etc.?

I could be the next reviewer with how much information I can add pertaining to the single player/lore. :p It's how I got in to this game.
Shitposting
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11304 Posts
June 28 2009 22:23 GMT
#29
On June 29 2009 07:19 VorcePA wrote:
Quick question: I've made a few liquipedia edits/pages, and I was wondering -- should we only make pages/edits centering solely around Starcraft multiplayer competition, or is this a complete Starcraft Wiki?

By that I mean should liqupedia also include pages about starcraft lore, history, the single player campaign, etc.?

It is possible to add these things and there are no hard-coded limits as to what our wiki should/could contain. However, the lore and history parts are fairly well-covered in alternative wikis about Starcraft and therefore not liquipedia's primary focus. We want to become the definite resource in terms of strategy and in terms of progaming, the things TL excels at.
ModeratorNon veritas sed auctoritas facit legem. | Liquipedia: Don't ask me, I'm retired.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
June 29 2009 00:15 GMT
#30
Hehe, Canata fan set loose on SKT page. Guess someone should work on that notable player's personal page.
R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
June 29 2009 00:41 GMT
#31
nice to see it's still going strong!
ggyo...
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
June 29 2009 01:20 GMT
#32
On June 29 2009 05:51 HeavOnEarth wrote:
liquidpedia just needs more advertisement like this~ GL


well more like this - and more people working on it ^^
PhotographerLiquipedia. Drop me a pm if you've got questions/need help.
MutaDoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1163 Posts
June 29 2009 02:49 GMT
#33
Wait, it says some people haven't checked it out yet? Are they crazy?
4F7ERY0U
Profile Joined June 2009
United States9 Posts
June 29 2009 03:58 GMT
#34
At anytime of the day, I guarantee you that I will have at least 4 tabs of liquipedia opened up in ff. I live by that site. :D
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Bockit
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sydney2287 Posts
June 29 2009 08:52 GMT
#35
For everyone that is worried about not knowing enough about strategy.

There is a system where all edits are reviewed by people who are considered to 'know' stuff regarding strategy, so if you make a 'dumb' edit, it simply won't get approved, or will be fixed if the underlying point is relevant.
Their are four errors in this sentance.
Dyllyn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Singapore670 Posts
June 29 2009 13:37 GMT
#36
I didn't know about liquipedia T.T
scv rush ftw
MutaDoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1163 Posts
June 29 2009 16:36 GMT
#37
On June 29 2009 22:37 GenericTerranPlayer wrote:
I didn't know about liquipedia T.T


I don't know how you survive

I really wish I could do more to help. I've made a few edits(I'd guess about 35ish?), but for the most part I can only help with grammar. With the collective IQ of TL, grammar errors won't exist for long, so soon I will be reduced to simply browsing. [Sad face accompanied by a long sigh]
MutaDoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1163 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-30 01:28:00
June 29 2009 16:41 GMT
#38
Done.
MutaDoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1163 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-30 01:27:44
June 29 2009 21:05 GMT
#39
Done.
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
June 29 2009 21:29 GMT
#40
LPedia is the NEW SHIT.

Keep on reading and contributing. I will.
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MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
July 01 2009 17:22 GMT
#41
On June 29 2009 07:19 VorcePA wrote:
Quick question: I've made a few liquipedia edits/pages, and I was wondering -- should we only make pages/edits centering solely around Starcraft multiplayer competition, or is this a complete Starcraft Wiki?

By that I mean should liqupedia also include pages about starcraft lore, history, the single player campaign, etc.?.

Feel free to add them. While our focus is strategies because that's the area where TL can easily surpass other wikis/webpages adding other starcraft related topics including lore is still nice.
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IceCube
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Croatia1403 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-03 00:21:46
July 03 2009 00:21 GMT
#42
Its so awsome that you guys made this great thing for the community. I'll do my best to add something usefull. <3
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