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May 26th, 2009 02:24 GMT

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Fantasy Proleague Round 5 Preview


Enter Here



First, congratulations doubleupgradeobbies! for winning Round 4 with a final score of 183, 10 above the 2nd place SKT team (HotBid made teams for all the pro teams). Check out the Round 4 thread for any information on that.

There aren't many changes this round, the only one really being a minor reduction in team scoring (as we saw last round they dominated the scoring, partly as a result of their scoring boost and partly a result of all the 3-0 matches we saw); this should bring team scoring more in line with players.

Summary:
  • You choose 6 players & 1 team that score points when they play well.
  • You pick 3 players that lose you points when they play well.
  • Players & teams can be traded between weeks for those valued less than them.


Scoring


Player Scoring:
Non-Ace Lineup Appearance: 1 Point
Game Win (Ace included): 2 Points
Game Loss (Ace included): -1 Points
Ace Match Appearance: 2 Points
3-Game Win Streak: 1 Point
6-Game Win Streak: 2 Points
9-Game Win Streak: 3 Points
Break Another's Streak: 1 Point
Team Win: 1 Point

Team Scoring:
3-0 Victory: 7 Points
3-1 Victory: 5 Points
3-2 Victory: 4 Points
2-3 Defeat: 1 Point
1-3 Defeat: -1 Points
0-3 Defeat: -2 Points


Team Selection

Just like last round you will be forming a Main Team consisting of 6 players (1 designated captain, used for tie breakers) and 1 Proleague team costing a maximum of 30 points who will contributed points to your team based on their performance. New to this round however is the addition of a Anti Team, this consists of 3 players costing a Minimum of 13 points; your Anti Team players will be subtracting their point total from your total score (time to start looking for those overpriced players heading in to a slump). Note that the Anti Team and Anti Team selections are not related to each other, you may not however have a player on both your Main Team and Anti Team (you're not stupid right?). Your Main Team must still follow the rule of having one of each race; however the Anti Team is not limited by this restriction so you can pick 3 Protoss players if you so wish.

Trading

Again, just like last round, you will have an oppurtunity each week to trade players from both your Main and Anti teams. Unlike last season however, instead of Semioldguy generating a list of possible trades, each player will have a Trade Value that will fluctuate based on their performance over the course of the round and will start at their cost. Between weeks you can trade any player on your Main Team for someone with a lower (or equal) Adjusted Trade Value. Anti Team trading is the same except you must trade for someone of higher value. Trades are made using an Adjusted Trade Value which takes into account how many games each player has left. You will be limited to a maximum of 2 Main Team trades and 1 Anti Team trade per week and you can not trade away your captain from your Main Team; also, your Main Team must still contain one player of each race.
+ Show Spoiler [Trade Value formula & example] +
Trade Value = (P / (4.56 / 11)) / M * M/11 + C * (11 - M)/11

P = Player's points.
M = number of matches played.
C = Player's original cost

4.56 is the number of points a 1 point cost player is expected to score over the entire round
11 is the total number of matches each team plays in a round.
(4.56 / 11 ~= .41)

Basically, this is figuring out what a player's point cost would be given their current performance (ie someone scoring 4.56 points in one game would have a cost of 11) this is then weighted with their original cost; the weights are percentage of games played for the "new" cost and percentage of games left for the original cost. I hope this makes sense, if not feel free to ask questions.

As an example let's say (T)Leta (9 cost) plays in two matches the first week going 1-0 with a Team win in the first match and 2-0 in the second with an ace win and team win (4 pts 1st game, 9 pts 2nd game [3 wins * 2, 2 lineups * 1, 1 ace * 2, 2 team wins * 1, 1 Three Win Streak * 1]) = 13 pts for week 1 with two matches played out of 11 for the round:

T = (13 / .41) / 2 * 2/11 + 9 * (11-2/11)
T = 31.4 / 2 * 2/11 + 9 * 9/11 = ?
T = 15.7 * 2/11 + 9 * 9/11 = (At this point we can see he has an estimated cost of 15.7 if he continues on this scoring trend whereas his original cost is 9--these are then weighted based on games played and games left)

T = 2.85 + 7.4
Trade Value = 10.21 ((T)Leta's trade value at the end of week one with him scoring 13 pts over 2 games)

Trade Value is directly comparable with a players original cost thus someone with a Trade Value of 9 is rated the same as a player that started at Cost 9.
Adjusted Trade Value is what is used in the actual trade calculations and is simply Trade Value * Number of Games Left.

Thus, (T)Leta at 10.21 with 9 games left would have an Adjusted Trade Value of 91.89; say (P)free plays one game in week 1 and his new trade value is 9.5 (just picked this randomly fyi), (P)free with 10 games left would have an Adjusted Trade Value of 95. Notice how (P)free's Adjusted Trade Value is higher than (T)Leta's because he has the extra game left to score additional points in.


There is also (like last round) the -1 points per player trade made.

Groups

This round you will also be able to join groups to be able to compare your results with a smaller subset of the players, for example there might be a staff group, a first time fpl player's group; anything you want to group by.


Price List


Player prices:
+ Show Spoiler +
(T)Leta 9
(P)Bisu 9
(Z)Jaedong 9
(Z)EffOrt 7
(Z)great 7
(Z)Calm 7
(T)fantasy 7
(Z)HoGiL 7
(Z)hyvaa 7
(Z)Thezerg 6
(P)Horang2 6
(Z)YellOw[ArnC] 6
(T)Flash 6
(P)Violet 6
(Z)ZerO 6
(P)Kal 6
(Z)OversKy 6
(T)sKyHigh 5
(P)Stork 5
(T)UpMaGiC 5
(P)BeSt 5
(T)HiyA 5
(Z)HyuN 5
(T)Light 5
(Z)Kwanro 5
(P)Jaehoon 5
(P)JangBi 5
(P)Pure 4
(P)SangHo 4
(T)Sea.Really 4
(T)firebathero 4
(Z)GoRush 4
(T)Lomo 4
(P)Anytime 4
(T)Sea[Shield] 4
(Z)Shine[kaL] 4
(T)Casy 4
(P)Movie 4
(P)BackHo 3
(P)free 3
(Z)Hyuk 3
(Z)Modesty 3
(Z)RorO 3
(Z)sAviOr 3
(T)Iris 3
(T)Canata 3
(T)MVP 3
(T)fOrGG 2
(T)go.go 2
(P)GuemChi 2
(Z)July 2
(Z)keke 2
(P)Much 2
(T)PianO 2
(P)Reach 2
(P)Shuttle 2
(P)Tempest 2
(Z)HoeJJa 2
(T)Hwasin 2
(Z)oDin 2
(Z)Orion 2
(Z)Juni 2
(T)BoxeR 2
(P)britney 2
(Z)Clay 2
(P)DaezanG 2
(P)Doctor.K 2
(P)HakSoo 2
(P)herb 2
(T)iloveoov 2
(T)Justin 2
(T)Mind 2
(T)Mong 2
(P)MuJuK 2
(Z)Saint 2
(P)Tazza 2
(Z)type-b 2
(Z)815 2
(T)BaBy 2
(Z)Devil 2
(Z)ggaemo 2
(Z)Hydra 2
(Z)Luxury 2
(T)Memory 2
(P)Nbs 2
(T)Notice 2
(Z)Chavi 1
(T)Dongrae 1
(T)Favian 1
(T)FrOzean 1
(Z)Killer 1
(T)Miracle 1
(Z)NeeL[fOu] 1
(P)PerfectMan 1
(P)Spear 1
(Z)ToSky 1
(P)yoOn 1
(P)Young 1
(T)910 1
(Z)Action 1
(P)Air 1
(T)Classic 1
(T)ClouD 1
(P)GosI[Flying] 1
(P)han 1
(Z)Haran 1
(T)koala 1
(T)NaDa 1
(Z)Peace 1
(T)PuMa 1
(P)Pusan 1
(Z)Shark 1
(P)Stats 1
(T)Suny 1
(P)Tester 1
(T)XellOs 1
(Z)YellOw 1
(T)Bogus 1
(Z)by.hero 1
(Z)Child 1
(Z)Crazy-Hydra 1
(Z)FireFist 1
(T)GanZi 1
(Z)GGPlay 1
(T)Last 1
(P)Rock 1
(T)SaiR 1
(T)Shine 1
(P)SoO 1
(Z)SoulKey 1
(T)Special 1
(P)Trap 1
(Z)ZergBong 1

Team Prices
+ Show Spoiler +
SK Telecom T1 7
CJ Entus 6
Hite SPARKYZ 6
eSTRO 4
Samsung KHAN 4
STX SouL 4
Hwaseung Oz 4
KTF MagicNs 3
MBCGame HERO 3
Air Force ACE 2
WeMade FOX 2
Woongjin Stars 2
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Origami
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States266 Posts
May 26 2009 02:29 GMT
#2
Holy shit Oversky is worth as much as Flash. Never thought I'd see the day.
ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
May 26 2009 02:32 GMT
#3
baah everything is so expensive
the courage to be a lazy bum
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 26 2009 02:40 GMT
#4
RAWRRR TEAM MADE
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
May 26 2009 02:44 GMT
#5
On May 26 2009 11:32 ZoW wrote:
baah everything is so expensive

Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-26 02:48:33
May 26 2009 02:47 GMT
#6
My team (I'll probably change it):
(Z)Jaedong (Captain)
(T)Flash
(T)Hwasin
(P)free
(P)BackHo
(P)JangBi
Stars
Anti-team:
(T)Casy
(Z)HoGiL
(Z)Saint
Entusman #12
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-26 02:50:50
May 26 2009 02:50 GMT
#7
Yeah, this time I'm definitely not missing out on fantasy PL and now I can complain about my team doing horrible like everyone else.

btw (P)free isn't TLPDed in the player prices. Not that it matters.
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
May 26 2009 02:56 GMT
#8
On May 26 2009 11:29 Origami wrote:
Holy shit Oversky is worth as much as Flash. Never thought I'd see the day.


TheZerg is too. Poor Flash
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
Ra.Xor.2
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1784 Posts
May 26 2009 03:16 GMT
#9
Main Team:
(T)Flash(Captain)
(P)Bisu
(P)free
(T)sKyHigh
(T)Hwasin
(Z)Juni
KTF MagicNs

Anti Team:
(P)BackHo
(T)Casy
(Z)OversKy

#1 Flash Fan
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
May 26 2009 03:17 GMT
#10
I expect to see everyone sporting FlaSh on main team and Oversky on anti.
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
doubleupgradeobbies!
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-26 03:34:59
May 26 2009 03:29 GMT
#11
The team I would have gone with, putting aside fanboyistic autopicks, not seeing the lineup for first week, and not really wanting to have (T)Flash in my team thus forcing me to watch his tvps.....

(T)Flash(Captain)
(P)JangBi
(Z)EffOrt
(P)free
(T)sKyHigh
(Z)July/(Z)Luxury/(Z)HoeJJa depending on first week lineups with intention to trade them off quickly.

Woongjin

Antiteam -
(Z)hyvaa
(Z)Shine[kaL]
(Z)Juni

My actual team will, however take all of those into account, so it will be completely different :D
MSL, 2003-2011, RIP. OSL, 2000-2012, RIP. Proleague, 2003-2012, RIP. And then there was none... Even good things must come to an end.
[AhunGrY]MelOn
Profile Joined November 2008
United States357 Posts
May 26 2009 03:29 GMT
#12
On May 26 2009 12:16 Ra.Xor.2 wrote:
Anti Team:
(P)BackHo
(T)Casy
(Z)OversKy


wow you have no morals
=(
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
May 26 2009 03:36 GMT
#13
Everyone and their mother is going to have Flash on their team.

The only consolation I take take from the suckage of Stars and Free in R4 is that they're cheap in fantasy for R5.
Zero fighting.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-26 03:48:36
May 26 2009 03:46 GMT
#14
Main Team
(T)BaBy
(T)BoxeR
(T)Flash(Captain)
(T)sKyHigh
(P)Violet
(Z)ZerO
KTF MagicNs

Anti Team
(P)BeSt
(T)HiyA
(Z)Modesty

my first fantasy team
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
May 26 2009 03:55 GMT
#15
contratulations.
man i got fucking owned.
gg
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
miseiler
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-26 04:17:19
May 26 2009 04:07 GMT
#16
You're complaining about them being expensive?!

Let's go over these, shall we?

Pusan - 1
July - 2
forGG - 2
Luxury - 2
Mind - 2

How the mighty have fallen...

EDIT: I missed NADA at 1. Holyshit. One point.
"Jinro soo manly wearing only a T-Shirt while the Koreans freeze in their jackets" -- Double_O
"He's from Sweden, man. We have to fight polar bears on our way to school." -- Yusername
BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
May 26 2009 04:12 GMT
#17
Haha awesome, this'll be fun. My team:

Main Team

Anytime
fantasy <-- CAPTAIN
Flash
GoRush
Hwasin
PianO

Hwaseung Oz

Anti Team

Jaehoon
Kal
Shine[kaL]
Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-26 04:20:30
May 26 2009 04:19 GMT
#18
Main Team:
(T)Flash
(P)free[gm]
(P)GuemChi
(Z)Jaedong(Captain)
(T)Mind
(Z)YellOw[ArnC]
WeMade FOX

Anti Team:
(T)Casy
(Z)Kwanro
(P)SangHo
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
ExSoldier
Profile Joined April 2008
378 Posts
May 26 2009 04:21 GMT
#19
On May 26 2009 12:17 Last Romantic wrote:
I expect to see everyone sporting FlaSh on main team and Oversky on anti.

why oversky in anti?
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
May 26 2009 04:23 GMT
#20
OK after much thought....I've got my team down.
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