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I still think  fOrGG is one of the best. Normally I would put him at #2, but he's not played all that much or that well as of late, so Leta gets that spot for the time being.
Edit: Actually, looking at his TLPD, he really hasn't been playing well since his MSL win.
Still, in that MSL win, he played as good as almost anyone can.
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On February 13 2009 00:57 minus_human wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2009 00:28 fanatacist wrote:On February 12 2009 23:49 minus_human wrote:On February 12 2009 23:33 fanatacist wrote:
Great write-up, thanks!
PS: It's 9-1 T>P not P>T. Don't know if it has been mentioned.
EDIT: Queen = +1000 respect points to you. Seriously. Queen fans unite! (ITW!!?!?) count me as one too!! No Romanians allowed. JK you're in mothafucka~ Queen forever. lol who waaaants tooo liiiiiive forevaaaaaaaaaaaaah
We are the champions my friends. Great read.
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On February 12 2009 22:36 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2009 21:38 ZaYo wrote:On February 12 2009 20:49 Zzoram wrote:On February 12 2009 20:41 Racenilatr wrote:
I wanna see Flash vs Savior. That will be an epic match in my opinion :D Actually you don't want that to happen. Flash would embarass him. Actually his worst matchup is tvz... and yet he rapes jaedong repeatedly.. damn flash is scary
I beg to differ, Jaedong has won more games verse Flash than vice versa
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On February 12 2009 23:46 Zoler wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2009 23:27 Jaksiel wrote:
Queen for the win.
I agree with not including Light v Fantasy. That game was 45 minutes of boredom with 10 minutes of interesting play at the end.
I wonder if the Terran domination of WL is because of the map pool or if the Terran players are just better right now. Maybe I'm wrong but I heard the maps are protoss favored atm?
Maybe I'm wrong but I heard the Terrans are just rigged for 10 years of starcraft scene?
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On February 13 2009 02:51 minus_human wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2009 02:37 fanatacist wrote:On February 13 2009 00:56 Zoler wrote:On February 13 2009 00:13 barth wrote:On February 12 2009 20:34 Zoler wrote:
Flash is obviously the best to ever have played Starcraft. So you dont think its Boxer anymore, huh?  Just because I'm a fanboy it doesn't mean I'm dumb like some other fanboys... *cough* *cough* Boxer is far from the best player, but he's the most cool and creative player and it's also thanks to him BW and e-sports is big today. On February 13 2009 00:30 fanatacist wrote:On February 12 2009 20:34 Zoler wrote:
Flash is obviously the best to ever have played Starcraft. Too bad that Bisu beat him in GOM... in a Bo3 (not just a stray game or a cheese here or there). Which progamer has the most annoying fanbase?? Bisu (971) How relevant is your response to my statement? Not at all. minus_human, just because their overall record is in favor of Flash doesn't mean that he is the clear favorite in a Bo5 vs. Bisu at the moment. Skill levels change over time. Honestly, except Bisu's PvZ lately (which is irrelevant) they're both on fire right now. It would be really cool to see a showdown between them, a rematch for the gom series. and of course 3 more wins in the overall record say nothing about who the favorite would be right now, but I just like to say negative shit about Bisu on every occasion 
I am not saying Bisu is the favorite (although I like to think he would win), I am just saying that Flash ISN'T.
Bisu hater? Banned from Queen club sorry.
On February 13 2009 02:53 minus_human wrote:
Also Flash has a victory over Bisu from the time he (flash) was a nobody, he proxy raxed on Monty Hall and used 3 scvs to mine out the entrance to bisu's base with the help of a proxy Refinery
So he cheesed and won (more than once), I mean, this doesn't happen to anyone right? It clearly takes great skill on Flash's part and proved he was the better player even back then.
Come on now.
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On February 13 2009 14:57 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2009 02:51 minus_human wrote:On February 13 2009 02:37 fanatacist wrote:On February 13 2009 00:56 Zoler wrote:On February 13 2009 00:13 barth wrote:On February 12 2009 20:34 Zoler wrote:
Flash is obviously the best to ever have played Starcraft. So you dont think its Boxer anymore, huh? Just because I'm a fanboy it doesn't mean I'm dumb like some other fanboys... *cough* *cough* Boxer is far from the best player, but he's the most cool and creative player and it's also thanks to him BW and e-sports is big today. On February 13 2009 00:30 fanatacist wrote:On February 12 2009 20:34 Zoler wrote:
Flash is obviously the best to ever have played Starcraft. Too bad that Bisu beat him in GOM... in a Bo3 (not just a stray game or a cheese here or there). Which progamer has the most annoying fanbase?? Bisu (971) How relevant is your response to my statement? Not at all. minus_human, just because their overall record is in favor of Flash doesn't mean that he is the clear favorite in a Bo5 vs. Bisu at the moment. Skill levels change over time. Honestly, except Bisu's PvZ lately (which is irrelevant) they're both on fire right now. It would be really cool to see a showdown between them, a rematch for the gom series. and of course 3 more wins in the overall record say nothing about who the favorite would be right now, but I just like to say negative shit about Bisu on every occasion I am not saying Bisu is the favorite (although I like to think he would win), I am just saying that Flash ISN'T. Bisu hater? Banned from Queen club sorry. Show nested quote +On February 13 2009 02:53 minus_human wrote:
Also Flash has a victory over Bisu from the time he (flash) was a nobody, he proxy raxed on Monty Hall and used 3 scvs to mine out the entrance to bisu's base with the help of a proxy Refinery So he cheesed and won (more than once), I mean, this doesn't happen to anyone right? It clearly takes great skill on Flash's part and proved he was the better player even back then. Come on now.
well then queen fanclub looks doomed...there are a LOT of Bisu haters u know :s
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On February 12 2009 12:13 Fzero wrote:Maybe someone needs to start working on a nickname for the top 6 terrans?
You would call that normal...status quo...how it's always been. -____-
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On February 13 2009 16:18 Jaeden wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2009 14:57 fanatacist wrote:On February 13 2009 02:51 minus_human wrote:On February 13 2009 02:37 fanatacist wrote:On February 13 2009 00:56 Zoler wrote:On February 13 2009 00:13 barth wrote:On February 12 2009 20:34 Zoler wrote:
Flash is obviously the best to ever have played Starcraft. So you dont think its Boxer anymore, huh? Just because I'm a fanboy it doesn't mean I'm dumb like some other fanboys... *cough* *cough* Boxer is far from the best player, but he's the most cool and creative player and it's also thanks to him BW and e-sports is big today. On February 13 2009 00:30 fanatacist wrote:On February 12 2009 20:34 Zoler wrote:
Flash is obviously the best to ever have played Starcraft. Too bad that Bisu beat him in GOM... in a Bo3 (not just a stray game or a cheese here or there). Which progamer has the most annoying fanbase?? Bisu (971) How relevant is your response to my statement? Not at all. minus_human, just because their overall record is in favor of Flash doesn't mean that he is the clear favorite in a Bo5 vs. Bisu at the moment. Skill levels change over time. Honestly, except Bisu's PvZ lately (which is irrelevant) they're both on fire right now. It would be really cool to see a showdown between them, a rematch for the gom series. and of course 3 more wins in the overall record say nothing about who the favorite would be right now, but I just like to say negative shit about Bisu on every occasion I am not saying Bisu is the favorite (although I like to think he would win), I am just saying that Flash ISN'T. Bisu hater? Banned from Queen club sorry. On February 13 2009 02:53 minus_human wrote:
Also Flash has a victory over Bisu from the time he (flash) was a nobody, he proxy raxed on Monty Hall and used 3 scvs to mine out the entrance to bisu's base with the help of a proxy Refinery So he cheesed and won (more than once), I mean, this doesn't happen to anyone right? It clearly takes great skill on Flash's part and proved he was the better player even back then. Come on now. well then queen fanclub looks doomed...there are a LOT of Bisu haters u know :s
It was a joke d:
And I think most Bisu haters are for one of two reasons:
1. Savior.
2. Bisu fans.
Amirite?
Has little to do with Bisu himself, and come on now, who wouldn't take down Savior if they had the chance to do it in their first MSL finals?
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Freddie Mercury gives me chills. Dude could sing ~_~
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On February 14 2009 02:26 Louder wrote:
Freddie Mercury gives me chills. Dude could sing ~_~
I am so sad that I was too young to see him live. He WAS Queen.
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On February 13 2009 23:16 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2009 16:18 Jaeden wrote:On February 13 2009 14:57 fanatacist wrote:On February 13 2009 02:51 minus_human wrote:On February 13 2009 02:37 fanatacist wrote:On February 13 2009 00:56 Zoler wrote:On February 13 2009 00:13 barth wrote:On February 12 2009 20:34 Zoler wrote:
Flash is obviously the best to ever have played Starcraft. So you dont think its Boxer anymore, huh? Just because I'm a fanboy it doesn't mean I'm dumb like some other fanboys... *cough* *cough* Boxer is far from the best player, but he's the most cool and creative player and it's also thanks to him BW and e-sports is big today. On February 13 2009 00:30 fanatacist wrote:On February 12 2009 20:34 Zoler wrote:
Flash is obviously the best to ever have played Starcraft. Too bad that Bisu beat him in GOM... in a Bo3 (not just a stray game or a cheese here or there). Which progamer has the most annoying fanbase?? Bisu (971) How relevant is your response to my statement? Not at all. minus_human, just because their overall record is in favor of Flash doesn't mean that he is the clear favorite in a Bo5 vs. Bisu at the moment. Skill levels change over time. Honestly, except Bisu's PvZ lately (which is irrelevant) they're both on fire right now. It would be really cool to see a showdown between them, a rematch for the gom series. and of course 3 more wins in the overall record say nothing about who the favorite would be right now, but I just like to say negative shit about Bisu on every occasion I am not saying Bisu is the favorite (although I like to think he would win), I am just saying that Flash ISN'T. Bisu hater? Banned from Queen club sorry. On February 13 2009 02:53 minus_human wrote:
Also Flash has a victory over Bisu from the time he (flash) was a nobody, he proxy raxed on Monty Hall and used 3 scvs to mine out the entrance to bisu's base with the help of a proxy Refinery So he cheesed and won (more than once), I mean, this doesn't happen to anyone right? It clearly takes great skill on Flash's part and proved he was the better player even back then. Come on now. well then queen fanclub looks doomed...there are a LOT of Bisu haters u know :s It was a joke d: And I think most Bisu haters are for one of two reasons: 1. Savior. 2. Bisu fans. Amirite? Has little to do with Bisu himself, and come on now, who wouldn't take down Savior if they had the chance to do it in their first MSL finals?
I was kind of neutral, but now I dislike him after his interviews...of course his fans are annoying as well ^^
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On February 14 2009 03:08 Jaeden wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2009 23:16 fanatacist wrote:On February 13 2009 16:18 Jaeden wrote:On February 13 2009 14:57 fanatacist wrote:On February 13 2009 02:51 minus_human wrote:On February 13 2009 02:37 fanatacist wrote:On February 13 2009 00:56 Zoler wrote:On February 13 2009 00:13 barth wrote:On February 12 2009 20:34 Zoler wrote:
Flash is obviously the best to ever have played Starcraft. So you dont think its Boxer anymore, huh? Just because I'm a fanboy it doesn't mean I'm dumb like some other fanboys... *cough* *cough* Boxer is far from the best player, but he's the most cool and creative player and it's also thanks to him BW and e-sports is big today. On February 13 2009 00:30 fanatacist wrote:On February 12 2009 20:34 Zoler wrote:
Flash is obviously the best to ever have played Starcraft. Too bad that Bisu beat him in GOM... in a Bo3 (not just a stray game or a cheese here or there). Which progamer has the most annoying fanbase?? Bisu (971) How relevant is your response to my statement? Not at all. minus_human, just because their overall record is in favor of Flash doesn't mean that he is the clear favorite in a Bo5 vs. Bisu at the moment. Skill levels change over time. Honestly, except Bisu's PvZ lately (which is irrelevant) they're both on fire right now. It would be really cool to see a showdown between them, a rematch for the gom series. and of course 3 more wins in the overall record say nothing about who the favorite would be right now, but I just like to say negative shit about Bisu on every occasion I am not saying Bisu is the favorite (although I like to think he would win), I am just saying that Flash ISN'T. Bisu hater? Banned from Queen club sorry. On February 13 2009 02:53 minus_human wrote:
Also Flash has a victory over Bisu from the time he (flash) was a nobody, he proxy raxed on Monty Hall and used 3 scvs to mine out the entrance to bisu's base with the help of a proxy Refinery So he cheesed and won (more than once), I mean, this doesn't happen to anyone right? It clearly takes great skill on Flash's part and proved he was the better player even back then. Come on now. well then queen fanclub looks doomed...there are a LOT of Bisu haters u know :s It was a joke d: And I think most Bisu haters are for one of two reasons: 1. Savior. 2. Bisu fans. Amirite? Has little to do with Bisu himself, and come on now, who wouldn't take down Savior if they had the chance to do it in their first MSL finals? I was kind of neutral, but now I dislike him after his interviews...of course his fans are annoying as well ^^
I guess I can see that, motion passed.
But you can't tell me that he isn't fucking awesome at the game. I imagine it's a "love to hate" kind of thing, like the Matler days of Savior. Or the fact that he is more successful than Jaedong (your choice of progamer, I presume), while having played a similar amount of games.
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On February 14 2009 06:01 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2009 03:08 Jaeden wrote:On February 13 2009 23:16 fanatacist wrote:On February 13 2009 16:18 Jaeden wrote:On February 13 2009 14:57 fanatacist wrote:On February 13 2009 02:51 minus_human wrote:On February 13 2009 02:37 fanatacist wrote:On February 13 2009 00:56 Zoler wrote:On February 13 2009 00:13 barth wrote:On February 12 2009 20:34 Zoler wrote:
Flash is obviously the best to ever have played Starcraft. So you dont think its Boxer anymore, huh? Just because I'm a fanboy it doesn't mean I'm dumb like some other fanboys... *cough* *cough* Boxer is far from the best player, but he's the most cool and creative player and it's also thanks to him BW and e-sports is big today. On February 13 2009 00:30 fanatacist wrote:On February 12 2009 20:34 Zoler wrote:
Flash is obviously the best to ever have played Starcraft. Too bad that Bisu beat him in GOM... in a Bo3 (not just a stray game or a cheese here or there). Which progamer has the most annoying fanbase?? Bisu (971) How relevant is your response to my statement? Not at all. minus_human, just because their overall record is in favor of Flash doesn't mean that he is the clear favorite in a Bo5 vs. Bisu at the moment. Skill levels change over time. Honestly, except Bisu's PvZ lately (which is irrelevant) they're both on fire right now. It would be really cool to see a showdown between them, a rematch for the gom series. and of course 3 more wins in the overall record say nothing about who the favorite would be right now, but I just like to say negative shit about Bisu on every occasion I am not saying Bisu is the favorite (although I like to think he would win), I am just saying that Flash ISN'T. Bisu hater? Banned from Queen club sorry. On February 13 2009 02:53 minus_human wrote:
Also Flash has a victory over Bisu from the time he (flash) was a nobody, he proxy raxed on Monty Hall and used 3 scvs to mine out the entrance to bisu's base with the help of a proxy Refinery So he cheesed and won (more than once), I mean, this doesn't happen to anyone right? It clearly takes great skill on Flash's part and proved he was the better player even back then. Come on now. well then queen fanclub looks doomed...there are a LOT of Bisu haters u know :s It was a joke d: And I think most Bisu haters are for one of two reasons: 1. Savior. 2. Bisu fans. Amirite? Has little to do with Bisu himself, and come on now, who wouldn't take down Savior if they had the chance to do it in their first MSL finals? I was kind of neutral, but now I dislike him after his interviews...of course his fans are annoying as well ^^ I guess I can see that, motion passed. But you can't tell me that he isn't fucking awesome at the game. I imagine it's a "love to hate" kind of thing, like the Matler days of Savior. Or the fact that he is more successful than Jaedong (your choice of progamer, I presume), while having played a similar amount of games.
lol, I don`t think he's more successful than JD...ok, my mistake, he is, but not in the last 1year~ 1 and a half, or so...coz JD kinda sucked earlier than that  and while JD may be my favorite player, I bet Savior is the primary reason I don`t like Bisu, coz u know...I LOVE SAVIOR! D:
Imo JD and Bisu aren`t rivals...while Savior and Bisu are
again, Bisu's fans ( most of them ) are a reason to hate him + his interviews
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On February 13 2009 13:58 AzureEye wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2009 22:36 Plexa wrote:On February 12 2009 21:38 ZaYo wrote:On February 12 2009 20:49 Zzoram wrote:On February 12 2009 20:41 Racenilatr wrote:
I wanna see Flash vs Savior. That will be an epic match in my opinion :D Actually you don't want that to happen. Flash would embarass him. Actually his worst matchup is tvz... and yet he rapes jaedong repeatedly.. damn flash is scary I beg to differ, Jaedong has won more games verse Flash than vice versa
Actually he hasn't it is 8-7 for flash in there games.
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On February 14 2009 06:31 Jaeden wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2009 06:01 fanatacist wrote:On February 14 2009 03:08 Jaeden wrote:On February 13 2009 23:16 fanatacist wrote:On February 13 2009 16:18 Jaeden wrote:On February 13 2009 14:57 fanatacist wrote:On February 13 2009 02:51 minus_human wrote:On February 13 2009 02:37 fanatacist wrote:On February 13 2009 00:56 Zoler wrote:On February 13 2009 00:13 barth wrote:[quote] So you dont think its Boxer anymore, huh? Just because I'm a fanboy it doesn't mean I'm dumb like some other fanboys... *cough* *cough* Boxer is far from the best player, but he's the most cool and creative player and it's also thanks to him BW and e-sports is big today. On February 13 2009 00:30 fanatacist wrote:
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Too bad that Bisu beat him in GOM... in a Bo3 (not just a stray game or a cheese here or there). Which progamer has the most annoying fanbase?? Bisu (971) How relevant is your response to my statement? Not at all. minus_human, just because their overall record is in favor of Flash doesn't mean that he is the clear favorite in a Bo5 vs. Bisu at the moment. Skill levels change over time. Honestly, except Bisu's PvZ lately (which is irrelevant) they're both on fire right now. It would be really cool to see a showdown between them, a rematch for the gom series. and of course 3 more wins in the overall record say nothing about who the favorite would be right now, but I just like to say negative shit about Bisu on every occasion I am not saying Bisu is the favorite (although I like to think he would win), I am just saying that Flash ISN'T. Bisu hater? Banned from Queen club sorry. On February 13 2009 02:53 minus_human wrote:
Also Flash has a victory over Bisu from the time he (flash) was a nobody, he proxy raxed on Monty Hall and used 3 scvs to mine out the entrance to bisu's base with the help of a proxy Refinery So he cheesed and won (more than once), I mean, this doesn't happen to anyone right? It clearly takes great skill on Flash's part and proved he was the better player even back then. Come on now. well then queen fanclub looks doomed...there are a LOT of Bisu haters u know :s It was a joke d: And I think most Bisu haters are for one of two reasons: 1. Savior. 2. Bisu fans. Amirite? Has little to do with Bisu himself, and come on now, who wouldn't take down Savior if they had the chance to do it in their first MSL finals? I was kind of neutral, but now I dislike him after his interviews...of course his fans are annoying as well ^^ I guess I can see that, motion passed. But you can't tell me that he isn't fucking awesome at the game. I imagine it's a "love to hate" kind of thing, like the Matler days of Savior. Or the fact that he is more successful than Jaedong (your choice of progamer, I presume), while having played a similar amount of games. lol, I don`t think he's more successful than JD...ok, my mistake, he is, but not in the last 1year~ 1 and a half, or so...coz JD kinda sucked earlier than that and while JD may be my favorite player, I bet Savior is the primary reason I don`t like Bisu, coz u know...I LOVE SAVIOR! D: Imo JD and Bisu aren`t rivals...while Savior and Bisu are again, Bisu's fans ( most of them ) are a reason to hate him + his interviews
In the last year and a half, Bisu won 3 titles, whereas Jaedong has won 1.
I would say Savior and Bisu aren't rivals because Bisu dominates Savior overall, and Savior is from a different era. I'd say Bisu is the anti-Savior.
Jaedong/Flash/Bisu are a trio of rivals to me, although JD/Flash only cite each other.
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Bisu won 3 titles cause the maps were protossed cause no protoss can play on balanced maps
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On February 14 2009 10:21 nttea wrote:
Bisu won 3 titles cause the maps were protossed cause no protoss can play on balanced maps
God I wish this was in the strat forum or something...
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lol why did they close-up on sunny when he was clearly winning in the Jaedong v Sunny game?
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On February 14 2009 07:50 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2009 06:31 Jaeden wrote:On February 14 2009 06:01 fanatacist wrote:On February 14 2009 03:08 Jaeden wrote:On February 13 2009 23:16 fanatacist wrote:On February 13 2009 16:18 Jaeden wrote:On February 13 2009 14:57 fanatacist wrote:On February 13 2009 02:51 minus_human wrote:On February 13 2009 02:37 fanatacist wrote:On February 13 2009 00:56 Zoler wrote:
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Just because I'm a fanboy it doesn't mean I'm dumb like some other fanboys... *cough* *cough*
Boxer is far from the best player, but he's the most cool and creative player and it's also thanks to him BW and e-sports is big today.
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Which progamer has the most annoying fanbase??
Bisu (971)
How relevant is your response to my statement? Not at all. minus_human, just because their overall record is in favor of Flash doesn't mean that he is the clear favorite in a Bo5 vs. Bisu at the moment. Skill levels change over time. Honestly, except Bisu's PvZ lately (which is irrelevant) they're both on fire right now. It would be really cool to see a showdown between them, a rematch for the gom series. and of course 3 more wins in the overall record say nothing about who the favorite would be right now, but I just like to say negative shit about Bisu on every occasion I am not saying Bisu is the favorite (although I like to think he would win), I am just saying that Flash ISN'T. Bisu hater? Banned from Queen club sorry. On February 13 2009 02:53 minus_human wrote:
Also Flash has a victory over Bisu from the time he (flash) was a nobody, he proxy raxed on Monty Hall and used 3 scvs to mine out the entrance to bisu's base with the help of a proxy Refinery So he cheesed and won (more than once), I mean, this doesn't happen to anyone right? It clearly takes great skill on Flash's part and proved he was the better player even back then. Come on now. well then queen fanclub looks doomed...there are a LOT of Bisu haters u know :s It was a joke d: And I think most Bisu haters are for one of two reasons: 1. Savior. 2. Bisu fans. Amirite? Has little to do with Bisu himself, and come on now, who wouldn't take down Savior if they had the chance to do it in their first MSL finals? I was kind of neutral, but now I dislike him after his interviews...of course his fans are annoying as well ^^ I guess I can see that, motion passed. But you can't tell me that he isn't fucking awesome at the game. I imagine it's a "love to hate" kind of thing, like the Matler days of Savior. Or the fact that he is more successful than Jaedong (your choice of progamer, I presume), while having played a similar amount of games. lol, I don`t think he's more successful than JD...ok, my mistake, he is, but not in the last 1year~ 1 and a half, or so...coz JD kinda sucked earlier than that and while JD may be my favorite player, I bet Savior is the primary reason I don`t like Bisu, coz u know...I LOVE SAVIOR! D: Imo JD and Bisu aren`t rivals...while Savior and Bisu are again, Bisu's fans ( most of them ) are a reason to hate him + his interviews In the last year and a half, Bisu won 3 titles, whereas Jaedong has won 1. I would say Savior and Bisu aren't rivals because Bisu dominates Savior overall, and Savior is from a different era. I'd say Bisu is the anti-Savior. Jaedong/Flash/Bisu are a trio of rivals to me, although JD/Flash only cite each other.
bisu doesnt have an osl tho. and jd has 2 titles: 1 osl and 1 msl
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