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[GOM] Semifinals - free[gm] vs JangBi
January 29th, 2009 17:24 GMT
After a week-off to celebrate the Chinese New Year, GOMtv is returning this Sunday to determine which Protoss gets to play Bisu in the Finals for a chance at the $40,000 grand prize. The two players vying for the opportunity? JangBi and Free[gm]. Beyond the money incentive, both players have strong motivations to win this series: After losing to Bisu 1-3 in the 2008 Clubday MSL finals, JangBi surely wants to prove he can beat Bisu in a series, and Free[gm] no doubt has a deep desire to burst his championship-cherry. Should be a good series!
Although Jangbi is Steve's numero uno Powerranker, and Free didn't even break the top ten, this series is too tight to predict. Check it:
Neither player can be said to be in a slump. Neither player has an aura of invulnerability in regards to PvP. Both players lost to Bisu 1-3 in the 2008 ClubDay MSL. Both players' PvP are vulnerable, and their records against one another are equal at 1-1. Both games were played on Colosseum. The game Jangbi won, Free overextended with massive early pressure (to be fair, Jangbi was forced to use probes for defense more than once so the pressure wasn't entirely unsuccessful). The game Free won was a 30 minute macro-war.
Simply considering their playstyles and general statistics, I can give an advantage to neither player.
With the series looking as close as it does, it may be useful to compare the players' statistics on the maps being played. The maps for this best of five are Medusa • Colosseum II • Sin Chupung-Ryeong • Destination • Medusa.
In that case. Jangbi's PvP is 4-1 on Medusa, and Free is 3-3. Neither player has played any PvPs on Colosseum II, but on its predecessor, Colosseum, Jangbi is 2-2 while Free is 3-6 (with his last five PvPs on the map being losses). Jangbi hasn't played any PvPs on Sin Chupung-Ryeong, but Free's played on it twice, beating Tempest and Best. And on Destination, Free's gone 2-0, including a win against Bisu, while Jangbi's gone 2-2 with wins vs Pusan and Pure and losses to Bisu and Kal.
To be honest, in my eyes, anything could happen! However, I expect a long series. 3-2 in either direction. Jangbi should take Medusa, Colosseum II is a question-mark, in my opinion. And I'd assume Free to do well on Sin Chupung-Ryeong and Destination. Pay attention to game two. If Jangbi takes it, he's the slight favorite. If Free takes it, he has the slight edge.
Be sure to post your thoughts on the match, too. I'm eager to see if there's anyone that feels there's a clear favorite in this match... and if so, why! I might just learn a thing or two about PvP from your opinions. :D
lilsusie provided the community with a new interview with Bisu.
If you have any questions for the players in the upcoming matches, ask them on GOMtv's Community forums. Click on the Community button below for easy access to those forums.
See you in the Live Report thread this Sunday, Feb. 1st, 18:00 KST!
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Heh, ignore these phantom posts. :D
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ahahahha
FREE WILL TAKE JANGBI TO SCHOOL
..but will promptly be raped by Bisu
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holy crap those are mirror stats almost....
ill go for jangbi though
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Since JangBi has to prepare for his MSL group Saturday (featuring strong Terrans Iris and fantasy) I think free has the edge. Also, even though he's a very strong Protoss, free doesn't have any major league achievements. Will that make him train even harder?
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On January 30 2009 04:49 Amarxist wrote:
GO FREE!
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I remember the last time Free had to fight against someone who (at the time) had almost identical win percentages as he did. It was something like 53%-55% in all three MUs for both of them. People had no idea who to Liquibet for. Much or Free?
Free ended up taking Much to school, but Much ain't no dragon. Plus, Jangbi has Stork, the former PvP monster, to practice with. Free has...Guemechi? You also have to consider that in the Bisu/Stork "love video", Bisu lamented how Stork didn't practice with him but with Free instead. So Stork probably knows Free's game plan almost inside and out since they trained together in the past MSL.
I'd give the slight advantage to JangBi, but I'll be rooting for Free.
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I am equally divided, I like free slightly more but I think JangBi has a slight advantage in the mid-late game, with the game that he lost to Free on Colosseum being the exception. Free has an advantage with early unit micro, and if he utilizes this he should pull ahead at least somewhat before JangBi starts the war machine. I predict Jangbi 3-2 Free, rooting for Free though.
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go free just because i hate jangbi
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Hungary11305 Posts
Thanks for giving us an intro on this one. I am definitely rooting for a Bisu vs. Jangbi matchup in the finals. With Jangbi, I can still hope that he will surpass himself and become a Starleague winner. With free, I am fairly sure that he won't ever.
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United States12607 Posts
This one is going to be close! I hope free crushes JangBi...JB is by far the weakest dragon IMO. He just hasn't had to play many tough matchups lately.
Either way, the winner is going to get crushed by Beesuit in the final.
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never liked jangbi, and this #1 spot in PR didnt really help. If he beats free but loses again to bisu in final, that would be so sad and funny at the same time. Mass silver medals at the KHAN house.
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On January 30 2009 05:06 soudo wrote:
I remember the last time Free had to fight against someone who (at the time) had almost identical win percentages as he did. It was something like 53%-55% in all three MUs for both of them. People had no idea who to Liquibet for. Much or Free?
Free ended up taking Much to school, but Much ain't no dragon. Plus, Jangbi has Stork, the former PvP monster, to practice with. Free has...Guemechi? You also have to consider that in the Bisu/Stork "love video", Bisu lamented how Stork didn't practice with him but with Free instead. So Stork probably knows Free's game plan almost inside and out since they trained together in the past MSL.
I'd give the slight advantage to JangBi, but I'll be rooting for Free.
Correction: Free lost to much 1-3 and then slumped hard against protoss. Jangbi's pvp statistics lie, hes *much* better than 51%. Check the thread where it showed everyone's statistics for that year. Jangbi had an almost 60% pvp win ratio. Free's was 50%. Thats a pretty big gap.
Edit: GO JANGBI, FREE IS A FUCKING LOSER, SHOW HIM THAT 3-0 
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Ah, you're right. Recent performance shows Jangbi improving a great deal in the mu. Last 6 months he's 15-8 (65%), whereas Free is 12-14 (46%) for the same time period.
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I'm think JangBi will take the series, because he's an absolute monster. I like free and all, but I can't see him taking a series from Jangbi.
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I am hoping for and expecting a Jangbi vs Bisu finals.
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Jangbi ftw get a revenge finals vs bisu!
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Bisu's got this tourny down.
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On January 30 2009 06:20 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2009 05:06 soudo wrote:
I remember the last time Free had to fight against someone who (at the time) had almost identical win percentages as he did. It was something like 53%-55% in all three MUs for both of them. People had no idea who to Liquibet for. Much or Free?
Free ended up taking Much to school, but Much ain't no dragon. Plus, Jangbi has Stork, the former PvP monster, to practice with. Free has...Guemechi? You also have to consider that in the Bisu/Stork "love video", Bisu lamented how Stork didn't practice with him but with Free instead. So Stork probably knows Free's game plan almost inside and out since they trained together in the past MSL.
I'd give the slight advantage to JangBi, but I'll be rooting for Free.
Correction: Free lost to much 1-3 and then slumped hard against protoss.
Yeahh you're right...damn haha. They were so identical back then that I even forgot who the winner was...
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9071 Posts
I want JangBi do advance , just because I want to see him getting crushed by Bisu
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Go Free. Crush Jangbi and then Bisu.
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On January 30 2009 07:19 disciple wrote:
I want JangBi do advance , just because I want to see him getting crushed by Bisu
Lol QFT.
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I hope Free wins. Jangbi is such an antihero.
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Thanks susie for that interview, it's super cute
Bisu will be da champion!
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i want  free to win beacuse he has never been to a finals of anything before. also this is KeSPA sanctioned so it would make his rank go up. But the main reason is that he has never been to the finals of anything T_T
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE XD
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does anyone notice something. the banner makes JangBi look like a pot head... a seriously high pot head.
im sorry but he does :0
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Jangbi, hopefully Stork will be a helpful practise partner for him
Khan fighting!.
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i seriously doubt either of these guys can take bisu...
im still pullin for Jangbi
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United States1865 Posts
Jangbi should win
because if we have to watch another shitty PvP finals at least let it be a rematch with some storyline to it
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On January 30 2009 09:56 Atrioc wrote:
Jangbi should win
because if we have to watch another shitty PvP finals at least let it be a rematch with some storyline to it
When was the last shitty PvP finals?
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I want Free to win so Jangbi won't be #1 on PR.
Also if Jangbi wins we all know Bisu will beat him, but if Free wins then there is a chance that Bisu will lose.
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On January 30 2009 09:40 shavingcream66 wrote:
jangbi 2-1
Bo5?
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I expect Jangbi to win. He's very consistent in anything he does and plays a very solid game.
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wow.
this is going to be intense.
im rooting for free.
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This one should be closer than.. Skyhigh vs Bisu.
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Free will be the Last Dragon thus he will win and then take Bisu's head.
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United States10774 Posts
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FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FOREVER
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MrHoon
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Cmon free, lets make sure every dragon has a medal regardless of color!
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While it is a mirror matchup so anything can happen, but Jangbi right now is the better player. And unlike Stork recently, Jangbi's PvP is pretty consistent. I expect him to win, but definitely not as certain as Bisu winning over Skyhigh on the other side.
On a side note, I hope Jangbi doesn't beat Free only to lose to Bisu. I like Jangbi a lot, and it would be painful to read pages after pages of Jangbi and Stork/Yellow/2nd-place jokes.
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Russian Federation1613 Posts
I bet money on JangBi, he should win :D
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On January 30 2009 13:48 baubo wrote:
While it is a mirror matchup so anything can happen, but Jangbi right now is the better player. And unlike Stork recently, Jangbi's PvP is pretty consistent. I expect him to win, but definitely not as certain as Bisu winning over Skyhigh on the other side.
On a side note, I hope Jangbi doesn't beat Free only to lose to Bisu. I like Jangbi a lot, and it would be painful to read pages after pages of Jangbi and Stork/Yellow/2nd-place jokes.
Jangbis PvP is consistently slight above average thats about it. And Id say Free is just as good of a player as Jangbi is right at this very moment.
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I say jangbi will take this 3-1.
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Free win imo :D get the pun baby.
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go free but voted jangbi.
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hope free will beat jangbi in 3-2 series ;] 
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auto-anti-khan vote, so GO FREE!
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Bisu Free please..
Free in 4.
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jesus what is with the Free haters?
I think Free has the best control amongst the dragons
whether it is dancing his goons on Longi II
or confusing Bisu's DT on Athena II
Free has arguably the "best" lower tier unit control in starcraft
I like both of them as players, but my heart goes out to Free, poor guy plays his heart out to no avail.
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i think Jangbi will take this simply because he can practice with Stork(and all the good things stork has said about him), whereas free... doesn't really have great options for practice partners
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Bisu will most likely beat Free or Jangbi in the finals, but I vote for Jangbi, cause I want a MSL finals rematch and give Jangbi another chance.
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United States1865 Posts
On January 30 2009 10:14 GGQ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2009 09:56 Atrioc wrote:
Jangbi should win
because if we have to watch another shitty PvP finals at least let it be a rematch with some storyline to it When was the last shitty PvP finals?
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The most recent finals was a PvP (Bisu 3-1 Jangbi in Club Day MSL)
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On January 31 2009 07:02 Atrioc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2009 10:14 GGQ wrote:On January 30 2009 09:56 Atrioc wrote:
Jangbi should win
because if we have to watch another shitty PvP finals at least let it be a rematch with some storyline to it When was the last shitty PvP finals? ? The most recent finals was a PvP (Bisu 3-1 Jangbi in Club Day MSL) That wasn't a shitty finals.
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I dont see this on the calendar.
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On January 30 2009 16:32 mog87 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2009 13:48 baubo wrote:
While it is a mirror matchup so anything can happen, but Jangbi right now is the better player. And unlike Stork recently, Jangbi's PvP is pretty consistent. I expect him to win, but definitely not as certain as Bisu winning over Skyhigh on the other side.
On a side note, I hope Jangbi doesn't beat Free only to lose to Bisu. I like Jangbi a lot, and it would be painful to read pages after pages of Jangbi and Stork/Yellow/2nd-place jokes. Jangbis PvP is consistently slight above average thats about it. And Id say Free is just as good of a player as Jangbi is right at this very moment. Jangbi's the 3rd best pvp'er at the moment, hes not slightly above average.
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w00t, only 1 more day until these matches!! I would like to see a Jangbi vs Bisu final.
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Why isn't this event in the calendar? Shouldn't it be this comig sunday?
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I like Free, and I wouldn't mind seeing him win a League, but I'd also prefer seeing Jangbi get crushed by Bisu again (as opposed to seeing Bisu crush Free... again).
So here's to Bisu bitchslapping both Samsung Protosses in the near future!
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Time for Jangbi to win a Starleague !!!
Go Jangbi !!!
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No LB for this semi either:<
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On January 31 2009 10:09 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2009 16:32 mog87 wrote:On January 30 2009 13:48 baubo wrote:
While it is a mirror matchup so anything can happen, but Jangbi right now is the better player. And unlike Stork recently, Jangbi's PvP is pretty consistent. I expect him to win, but definitely not as certain as Bisu winning over Skyhigh on the other side.
On a side note, I hope Jangbi doesn't beat Free only to lose to Bisu. I like Jangbi a lot, and it would be painful to read pages after pages of Jangbi and Stork/Yellow/2nd-place jokes. Jangbis PvP is consistently slight above average thats about it. And Id say Free is just as good of a player as Jangbi is right at this very moment. Jangbi's the 3rd best pvp'er at the moment, hes not slightly above average.
LOL no he isnt. Stork Bisu Pusan Best, hell even though it was only a single match he lost to Anytime(who is no pvp beast). Jangbis PvP isnt something overwhelming, thus in this matchup both players are even money and likely the same when the winner faces Bisu.
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I do think that free has a solid chance in this mu. free did slump pvp for a while, and recently, but I wouldn't say he's still in it.
We'll see soon, though! Jangbi's definitely been solid the last few months. In fact, more solid than Free has been. And although I'll admit to knowing next to nothing (important) about pvp... I'd hesitate to say either player is favored to win this match.
+ Show Spoiler +admission: I want free to win because I feel it in my gut he'll give Bisu a harder time... BUT, I'm willing to recognize this bias, so cannot call the series, especially with how well JangBi's been doing... anywho... I've never really liked PvP, and I'm actually excited about this match, so it should be great! powerup, yo!
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United States17042 Posts
I feel like free should be able to take this, as I also think that jangbi just doesn't have the creativity, the flare, nor the style to be able to win anything huge. I think that he'll be a forgotten player, unless he can manage to be a one hit wonder.
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Jangbi just lost ace match vs WeMade  . I hope this doesn't affect his performance in GOM
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On February 01 2009 07:38 mog87 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 31 2009 10:09 Dazed_Spy wrote:On January 30 2009 16:32 mog87 wrote:On January 30 2009 13:48 baubo wrote:
While it is a mirror matchup so anything can happen, but Jangbi right now is the better player. And unlike Stork recently, Jangbi's PvP is pretty consistent. I expect him to win, but definitely not as certain as Bisu winning over Skyhigh on the other side.
On a side note, I hope Jangbi doesn't beat Free only to lose to Bisu. I like Jangbi a lot, and it would be painful to read pages after pages of Jangbi and Stork/Yellow/2nd-place jokes. Jangbis PvP is consistently slight above average thats about it. And Id say Free is just as good of a player as Jangbi is right at this very moment. Jangbi's the 3rd best pvp'er at the moment, hes not slightly above average. LOL no he isnt. Stork Bisu Pusan Best, hell even though it was only a single match he lost to Anytime(who is no pvp beast). Jangbis PvP isnt something overwhelming, thus in this matchup both players are even money and likely the same when the winner faces Bisu.
gawd pusan is slumping again what are you talking about -.-
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Be sure to post your thoughts on the match, too. I'm eager to see if there's anyone that feels there's a clear favorite in this match... and if so, why! I might just learn a thing or two about PvP from your opinions. :D
Being Free 5-4 vs Bisu, i believe he has a really good PvP and will prevail, even if he is not the best of the two in general.
My prediction: Free taking this 3-1
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... and very wrong prediction :-(
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It was too onesided. And yet another PvP finals.
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On February 02 2009 06:01 Proposal wrote:
It was too onesided. And yet another PvP finals.
As opposed to a Even match...ALSO resulting in a PvP finals...
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On February 02 2009 17:46 MooiSh wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2009 06:01 Proposal wrote:
It was too onesided. And yet another PvP finals. As opposed to a Even match...ALSO resulting in a PvP finals...
your post was sorta pointless, just pointed out what he said rofl.
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