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TL vs YG - A Call to Arms
December 4th, 2008 07:06 GMT
With impressive victories over both gosugamers and sc2gg , Teamliquid reaffirmed its status as the strongest community site in the foreign scene. With few worthy opponents remaining, Teamliquid went on a hunt to seek out the greatest possible opponents possible. Finally, after weeks of waiting, I am pleased to announce that we have a worthy opponent - the great Korean replay site YGOSU aka ygclan.
For those you who are unfamiliar with YGOSU, they are one of the premier replays sites on the net. They have a vast selection of the very best replays you can find as well as supporting a thriving community that, like Teamliquid, celebrates the beauty of Starcraft. In many ways are our two sites similar; they have the YGOSU Database, we have TLPD, they have ygclan, we have Liquid` and so on. Indeed, ygosu is probably the most similar Korean site to Teamliquid.
Notable memebrs of [yG] include the progamers XellOs and Canata.
At Blizzcon we had the opportunity to discuss a number things with YGOSU, and were even interviewed by them between the Starcraft matches. It wasn't long before we were planning a showmatch between us to bridge the gap between the foreign scene and the Koreans. Unlike past inter-site brawls, this series will feature the best gamers from our respective communities. Teamliquid has selected its finest members to play and defend Teamliquid's honor and prove to the Koreans that TeamLiquid is no pushover.
Wait? What's going on exactly?
The showmatch rules are very simple, send your very best members from your community to play and defend your community's honor. There will be 7 matches played between TL and YG - all 7 will be played regardless of score. The showmatch will be played on the 6th of December at 4pm KST and will consist of five 1v1 games, one 2v2 and one 3v3. The order of the games is as follows.
The lineups will be announced moments before the event takes place - that means neither side will know where each player is playing. Both sides will have a roster confirmed before the event.
Okay, but who is playing for TeamLiquid
After a lengthy search, the following players will be fighting for TeamLiquid's honor and pride against YGOSU;
So will this be streamed? How can I watch?
As with all Teamliquid showmatches, this will be streamed with commentary. However due to the event being played at 2am EST the broadcast will unfortunately be delayed until 4pm EST the same day. This is to give our users (and casters) a decent hour in which to watch and enjoy these games. There will also be a Korean stream running live at 2am EST commentated on by ilovezil, LosingID8 and lilsusie. You are welcome to watch the Korean stream live, but please refrain from putting spoilers in obvious places for those who are waiting until the 4pm EST stream. There will also be a special announcement occurring sometime during the 4pm broadcast (which is not TSL2).
Get ready, and get hyped for 7 sick games between the best of the best
TL fighting!~
Update: This is the lineup for the event;
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
omgggg finally a match that isnt going to be one sided rape
very excited for this!
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Wow sounds epic, I can't wait. Holy shit.
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HOLY
SHIT
HOLY
SHIIITTTTT
This is gonna be awesome
o.O Testie is playing once again! =D
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Oh that is great!!! Can't wait ><
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Wait? What's going on exactly?
The showmatch rules are very simple, send your very best members from your community to play and defend your communities honor. There will be 7 matches played between TL and YG - all 7 will be played regardless of score. The showmatch will be played on the of December at 4pm KST and will consist of five 1v1 games, one 2v2 and one 3v3. The order of the games is as follows.
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you need a date here
secret player = idra?
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How come testie doesn't have a profile? 
i'm watching, because of him
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Geez, I love tl but yg is so good.
I think YG will win 4-3.
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On December 04 2008 16:14 [Fin]Vittu wrote:How come testie doesn't have a profile?
he didnt make it into tsl
actually he did lol
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On December 04 2008 16:14 fusionsdf wrote:
Wait? What's going on exactly?
The showmatch rules are very simple, send your very best members from your community to play and defend your communities honor. There will be 7 matches played between TL and YG - all 7 will be played regardless of score. The showmatch will be played on the of December at 4pm KST and will consist of five 1v1 games, one 2v2 and one 3v3. The order of the games is as follows.
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you need a date here
secret player = idra?
Hmm.. Liquid'Nony?
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When are you going to update with the date? 
Anyway, sounds great!! Looking forward to it! :D
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On December 04 2008 16:15 EtherealDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2008 16:14 fusionsdf wrote:
Wait? What's going on exactly?
The showmatch rules are very simple, send your very best members from your community to play and defend your communities honor. There will be 7 matches played between TL and YG - all 7 will be played regardless of score. The showmatch will be played on the of December at 4pm KST and will consist of five 1v1 games, one 2v2 and one 3v3. The order of the games is as follows.
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you need a date here
secret player = idra? Hmm.. Liquid'Nony?
ah yeah thats probably more likely
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Omg. This. Is. Sick.
Can't wait for this.
"The showmatch will be played on the of December at 4pm KST"
Date date date date date
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
looking forward to this one ~
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Huh? When is this happening?
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CA10825 Posts
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is Testie really gonna go straight up random? that would be awesome
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has lefnaij ever posted on teamliquid though? :p
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This will be epic.
YGosu oozes with skill.
Chill should play a game.
n_n
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Holy shit. I said that about 15 times just now. Then I misread the unknown showmatch date as December 4th at 4pm KST, which is 20 minutes ago, and shouted "fuck" about 30 times.
So excited for this =))))
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Katowice25012 Posts
LOL nice
solid lineup from TL, IS IT SOLID ENOUGH?
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Wow, awesome.
Shouldn't tl.net get Sea? >.>
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I wanna see iNcontroL actually.
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CA10825 Posts
On December 04 2008 16:19 heyoka wrote:
LOL nice
solid lineup from TL, IS IT SOLID ENOUGH?
we prefer liquid, thanks
*badum clunk*
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
sorry! its the 6th of december  edited in
secret player will be for the team plays
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CA10825 Posts
On December 04 2008 16:20 raiame wrote:
I wanna see iNcontroL actually.
he has a schedule conflict
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LOOL look at our players composition, 5 toss wtf are we following the current trend of P dominance, I am assuming Machine goes for 2vs2 and Artosis is only in because we 3vs3 them?
Wise choice TL fighting ~
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Is this the return of Clan Liquid?
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On December 04 2008 16:17 Orome wrote:
EPIC
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Unknown player will either be NonY or ret 
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United States13896 Posts
holy shit this is gonna be epic. Who is the unnamed player? IdrA? NonY?
most importantly, are progamers allowed? IS XELLOS GOING TO BE PLAYING?!?! You did say they would be the "best gamers" from each community.
+ Show Spoiler +I know the answer is most likely not, but I figured I'd ask anyways.
Anyways, I'm looking forward to the lineups to say the least. Will you disclose YGOSU's roster at any point in the future?
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JF Fighting! Are we gonna do another reaver kill count contest?
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CA10825 Posts
On December 04 2008 16:30 []p4NDemik[] wrote:holy shit this is gonna be epic. Who is the unnamed player? IdrA? NonY? most importantly, are progamers allowed? IS XELLOS GOING TO BE PLAYING?!?! You did say they would be the "best gamers" from each community. + Show Spoiler +I know the answer is most likely not, but I figured I'd ask anyways. Anyways, I'm looking forward to the lineups to say the least. Will you disclose YGOSU's roster at any point in the future?
well, "best gamers" whose schedules work with the timeslot
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
Holy shit... This is going to be fucking epic...
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Hungary11270 Posts
Unknown player clearly is Sea[Shield]
erm...
Anyway, great lineups, I like them!
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Wow this is gonna be intense
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damn this is nice dude :D
getting to play yg o.o
and great line up, i wonder who they are sending o.o
to be honest i expect yg clan to win this...
but i will be rooting for TL XD will be very shocking if TL wins too :D
Edit: wondering who is this unnamed player
it could be sea :D or the korean players who played TL Attack XD
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Testie playing again? OMFG!
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1226 Posts
Awesome. And at a convenient time for us Australians =)
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I am screaming my head off right now. TL hwaiting!!!!!!!!
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On December 04 2008 16:22 LosingID8 wrote:he has a schedule conflict
Lameeeee... =(
That list needs iNcontrol so badly!
edit: Hoping for Idra/Nony/Sea as secret player. =)
Xellos vs. Sea plz. haha.
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this is going to be the biggest and greated game that TL will ever have :D
would be awesome if they will do a rematch sometime in the future XD
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There are literally no commitments I have this weekend that I wont break to be watching this.
TL.net Fighting!!
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OH FUCKING SHIT YESS!!!!!
I see we're going with the imbatoss line up. Pulling out all the stops!
TESTIEEEE
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
prepare your bansticks for the inevitable spoiler tsunami
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Be awesome if we get some cameos from Ret or Brat_OK
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haha that'd be awesome if the unnamed player is sea...
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OMG TESTIE..
this is going to be EPIC x1000 than the previous showmatches.
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So who is casting the 4pm EST stream?
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is awesome32271 Posts
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holy shit! this is crazy. and thank you for bringing back 2v2 and even 3v3, i've actually really missed the 2v2's in the PL.
edit: testie/mondi 2v2? haha
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OH SHI- a line up of people that one can't say they suck
Also testie gonna play does he know this?
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with a lineup like that i think it's gonna be overkill :p
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On December 04 2008 16:14 fusionsdf wrote:
secret player = idra?
Or NonY. Both would be great!
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A battle of epic proportions.
Looks like I'll be staying up late for this one.
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
On December 04 2008 17:05 littlechava wrote:
with a lineup like that i think it's gonna be overkill :p
I dunno, YG can easily have some top amateur/semi-pro players show up if they're really serious about this.
Btw, you and I make 33! (look below)
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what if they use canata and xellos...
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This lineup has way too many protoss players. ^^ I miss Idra, Nony and Maix.
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I couldn't help but smile as I read the announcement.
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wow... let's find a more inactive roster for tealiquid :D
AND where's lzgamer????
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On December 04 2008 17:22 Louder wrote:
wow... let's find a more inactive roster for tealiquid :D
AND where's lzgamer????
YA! what he said!
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United States3824 Posts
Oh My God!!!!
I'm so excited for Testie and Nazgul that I can't even effing figure out how to convert the time zones
TEAM LIQUID FIGHTING!!!
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testie playing? ohh shitttt lol
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Yes! TL Fighting! Against those koreans though, and no iccup to practice with, I predict TL gets rolled ;(
But oh well, TL FTW!!!
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awsome but i doubt testie is in shape in live up to his name?
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holy mother..... OH SHIT THIS IS GOING TO BE REAL GOOD YO~
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1584 Posts
haha awesome, most epic showmatch ever. atleast itll be hard to predict the winner
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"Unnamed player" is a 2v2...
SEA//FAKESTEVE.
FS proved himself worthy once and didn't play in the second showmatch, now's his chance to show he isn't lucky. And Sea... YUM BO SUNG FIGHTING!!! 2v2 skTerran gogo
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who's maix?
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Cannot wait for this. I'll be watching this action over dinner. Go Australian timezone!
Go TeamLiquid!
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On December 04 2008 16:53 Mikilatov wrote:
So who is casting the 4pm EST stream? Still be to confirmed, but Chill is casting atm - others to follow!
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Dang...TL side seriously has some of the best of the foreign scene...this is going to be good.
haha...funny part though is that they're ALL TOSS, except for Artosis and Machine...
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The secret player must be NTT....
darn I wish I never woke up ...
But this sounds interesting and while I am on the subject when is the next TSL? 
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United States4991 Posts
re: Testie knowing
He'd better know and better show up or I'll keeeel him, cuz i asked him on MSN and he said OK
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would this be equivalent of challenging a gym leader?
putting gg and sc2 as hobos off the street?
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CA10825 Posts
i hear YG's lineup is pretty good
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thedeadhaji
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let us know when YG makes their newspost~
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I think it might be pretty hard for Nony and Idra to arrange some free time to play in this match, but it would be awesome if one of the two could make it.
Liquid fighting!
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OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG!!!! WHAT A SICK LINEUP BY TL.NET O_____O
8-0 here we go?!
COMON TESTIE!!!!!!!! :D
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How about a TL.net vs Netwars show match?
And I'm serious, PM me if it's an option.
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Please let the secret player be Sea[Shield]!
And what about Nony, Idra, InControl and Day[9]?
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oh gawd... This is going to be EPIC! Do we know their lineup?
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OMG we're bringing our gosu lineup!!!!
Please let the ace be Tasteless!!!
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Make me mod, I'll play!!!
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Secret player won't be anything special don't get your hopes up
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wait... this will be on 10am here... no sc over dinner.. dang.
Plexa. That is such an obvious play down. My expectations have gone through the roof... damn you.
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Ok, this one match has me torned between the two sides. Before TL.net, I used to hang out at ygclan.net, and it made [yG] my favorite korean clan. I am still supporting TL.net, but this time I hope it's real GG's and not a one sided rape fest.
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On December 04 2008 19:08 Plexa wrote:Secret player won't be anything special don't get your hopes up
Which makes me believe it will be nothing but that.
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woaah Nazgul in lineup
I approve!
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Spenguin
Australia3316 Posts
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Netherlands6142 Posts
Very very hyped for this
YEAARH
but meh @ only 2 non-protoss
also, it lists only 9 player. But a series of 7, with one 2v2 and one 3v3 (and therefore five 1v1s) requires 10 players no? (5 + 2 + 3). That is, if players don't play twice.
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Northern Ireland1200 Posts
Testie playing? oO Find it hard to believe he will. The "unamed player" will take Testies spot for sure. Testie needs Meepo to own these days
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On December 04 2008 19:44 Pholon wrote:
Very very hyped for this
YEAARH
but meh @ only 2 non-protoss
also, it lists only 9 player. But a series of 7, with one 2v2 and one 3v3 (and therefore five 1v1s) requires 10 players no? (5 + 2 + 3). That is, if players don't play twice. It's all a part of the mystery! atm someone is playing in both the 2v2 and 3v3.
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would be kinda nice to see TreK in the line-up. he's the pride of europe after all.. and Smuft too!
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Protoss fest. Chill not playing??
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Tha tlook really nice !!
I really wanna see the lineup og YG
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nice lineup!
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yg problaly has a stack of B+ level amauters...
tl is gonna get 0-7'd
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On December 04 2008 20:23 fearus wrote:yg problaly has a stack of B+ level amauters... tl is gonna get 0-7'd
you suggest that JF and the others cannot handle b+ level amateurs? You gotta be kidding. BUt there's a real chanse that the korean site has some A ranked players in their lineup
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On December 04 2008 20:14 yrag89 wrote:Protoss fest. Chill not playing??
Yeah waht about him? Does Chill suck too much?
Anyway wouldn't be happy otherwise if he did the commentaries!
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If beating sc2gg and gosugamers was like beating up your little brother or a bum at the street, going against a top korean site is like enetring "the hood" with a t-shirt with WHITE POWER written on it after 10 pm? (just joking)
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CA10825 Posts
On December 04 2008 20:23 fearus wrote:yg problaly has a stack of B+ level amauters... tl is gonna get 0-7'd
and what level do you think the players on our lineup are?
On December 04 2008 20:30 Metaspace wrote:Yeah waht about him? Does Chill suck too much? Anyway wouldn't be happy otherwise if he did the commentaries! chill is quite good, but i think he might be running the english commentary portion of this event.
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I wanted to see Chill and Last Romantic play. Would maybe have been a horrible rape, but nobody in this lineup will go one base lurkers, I'm quite sure about that.
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On December 04 2008 20:59 Geo.Rion wrote:
If beating sc2gg and gosugamers was like beating up your little brother or a bum at the street, going against a top korean site is like enetring "the hood" with a t-shirt with WHITE POWER written on it after 10 pm? (just joking)
Priceless.
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With the mods denying it, it is now 100% that they will announce TSL2, and that Idra, NonY AND sea will be the secret team and roll yg in the final deciding 3v3.
But seriously it's a pity if the only active Liquid' member can't join in this, when we need him the most. But I can understand if nony is busy.
Even if we lose badly, at least we will get the pleasure of watching very good players play, because they will need quite high level players to 7-0 our lineup.
Looking forward to this very much!
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imo indigophone is the last unnamed player
IMHO
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Artosis - might have a chance since he's been practicing for courage etc
ClouD - cloud doesn't care, he said he was going to leave the community, so not sure how motivated he is for this
HnR)Insane - big chance to help win the 2v2/3v3
IefNaij - biggest chance of a 1v1 win if he doesn't choke.
iNfeRnaL - not good enough
Machine - might have a chance
Nazgul - retired :E
Testie - won't show up beacuse of a dota match.
Not sure who will play what so hard to predict but i believe that JF will win 1 game and that TL will grab either the 2v2 or 3v3.
so 5-2 to YGOSU, GG
I'm looking forward to it still Don't get your hopes up about Testie though.
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I believe in Testie. I wish he would stop playing Dota and start playing SC again.
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This is going to be sick, can't wait!
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TheMusiC United States. December 04 2008 17:57. Posts 384 PM Profile Quote
hey testie i guess you have to stop playing dota for a few days to prepare for the showmatch amirite?
MYM.Testie Canada. December 04 2008 18:13. Posts 4654 PM Profile Quote
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What showmatch? oO
I know, i'm bad
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Sea as the unnamed player?
That'd be cool.
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United States4991 Posts
You guys are gonna be really disappointed with the unnamed player
He's unnamed because we were searching for him, not because he's super ultra amazingly gosu ultimate progamer.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Yea haha in hindsight i shouldn't have even put the +1 there
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On December 04 2008 22:27 Plexa wrote:The unnamed player is.. ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Picon_small.gif) 2Pacalypse- 2Pacalypse- is one of the top BGH/Hunters players in the scene, so it's pretty obvious why he's on our roster
o.O interesting
Anyway great match comming up, hope I ll recive my TL shirt in time for this to cheer in it :D
TL fighting !
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Will OGN broadcast this instead of Proleague? They should
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Ohh man, i was sure PuertoRican was the unnamed player!
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Croatia9489 Posts
On December 04 2008 22:21 HnR)Insane wrote:You guys are gonna be really disappointed with the unnamed player He's unnamed because we were searching for him, not because he's super ultra amazingly gosu ultimate progamer.
You hurt my feelings.
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On December 04 2008 16:06 Plexa wrote:
6th of December at 4pm KST
However due to the event being played at 2am EST the broadcast will unfortunately be delayed until 4pm EST the same day.
I'm trying to work this out for GMT (EST + 4).
Korean Live
4pm KST = 2am EST = 6am GMT
Delayed Version
4pm EST = 8pm GMT.
correct?
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Wooo TL Fighting!
And Canada fighting!! Go Testie and JF!
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On December 04 2008 22:48 DhakhaR wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2008 16:06 Plexa wrote:
6th of December at 4pm KST
However due to the event being played at 2am EST the broadcast will unfortunately be delayed until 4pm EST the same day. I'm trying to work this out for GMT (EST + 4). Korean Live 4pm KST = 2am EST = 6am GMT Delayed Version 4pm EST = 8pm GMT. correct? The first conversion is correct, so i assume the 2nd is as well
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omg it's testie!!!
gl testicles!! :D
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Cool. This obviously differs from the other showmatches, because this isn't really a staff showmatch, I think none of these players have played in the other matches. So we can't really compare this with the other showmatches.
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Moar Toss pls. GL + TL.net HWAITING.
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Man, I havn't posted since July when the Reaver count contest started and then I missed it. I'm getting pretty excited for this!
Are we going to be able to see the Korean match over the POT or GOM players? Is there going to be a link to the live English commentary too?
EDIT: Actually, I looked back at my posting history and it was actually October 31 since the last time I posted, October 7 the time before that, and August 11 the time before that.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On December 04 2008 23:13 Attolite wrote:
Are we going to be able to see the Korean match over the POT or GOM players? Is there going to be a link to the live English commentary too The korean stream will run just as any TL stream would
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On December 04 2008 23:08 rkarhu wrote:
Cool. This obviously differs from the other showmatches, because this isn't really a staff showmatch, I think none of these players have played in the other matches. So we can't really compare this with the other showmatches.
Insane did, if i'm correct
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i honestly thought the unnamed player was gonna be someone special
+ Show Spoiler +Superiorwolf borrowed of course lmao...how unepic would that be?
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Epic dodge by asking famous foreigners to play.
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On December 04 2008 21:28 Senx wrote:Artosis - might have a chance since he's been practicing for courage etc ClouD - cloud doesn't care, he said he was going to leave the community, so not sure how motivated he is for this HnR)Insane - big chance to help win the 2v2/3v3 IefNaij - biggest chance of a 1v1 win if he doesn't choke. iNfeRnaL - not good enough Machine - might have a chance Nazgul - retired :E Testie - won't show up beacuse of a dota match. Not sure who will play what so hard to predict but i believe that JF will win 1 game and that TL will grab either the 2v2 or 3v3. so 5-2 to YGOSU, GG I'm looking forward to it still Don't get your hopes up about Testie though.
I feel the exact same way. I think Naz and Testie are too far past their primes, they'd still school me, but I doubt they'll take these guys.
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That is one strong line up. It'd be really cool if everyone showed up practiced and ready.
And...YG clan sends out Xellos and we're like....fuck.
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Would have liked to see NonY and Chill playing, but the roster still owns, especially Infernal =] I think he's reallllly good and underated !
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alright, so i havent taken a math class in like three years, but is this airing for americans the same time the iccup timer ends?
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
lol i think it is actually lol
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awesome! looking forward to this!!
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man i wanted to see lastromantic do another epic lurker jump...
oh well. good luck anyways! will be tuning in to watch the epic matchup.
edit: you guys should all intimidate the koreans by following this
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On December 05 2008 00:22 Plexa wrote:lol i think it is actually lol
Interesting. Very interesting.
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
On December 04 2008 23:52 BlackStar wrote:
Epic dodge by asking famous foreigners to play.
They requested the best players we could get.
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16957 Posts
What about Nony, FA, (I know inc's gone), ret, midian, etc.? Unavailable?
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Calgary25974 Posts
On December 05 2008 01:17 Empyrean wrote:
What about Nony, FA, (I know inc's gone), ret, midian, etc.? Unavailable?
You don't need us to go through every person. We asked a lot of people, if someone good isn't on the list it means they're busy.
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On December 05 2008 01:26 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2008 01:17 Empyrean wrote:
What about Nony, FA, (I know inc's gone), ret, midian, etc.? Unavailable? You don't need us to go through every person. We asked a lot of people, if someone good isn't on the list it means they're busy.
Ah
Well I'm looking forward to this match! :D
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Wow woo wee wahhh.
This is gonna be amazing, GG -> SC2GG -> YGCLAN -> Lecaf OZ?
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Does JF really count as part of the community? I don't think he ever really posts here...
Even so this should be sick! Hope Naz/Testie are practicing for it ahha
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On December 04 2008 18:22 anch wrote:
would this be equivalent of challenging a gym leader?
we better get that gym badge cause our pokemon are STACKED
on a side note, wow! 3v3 hunters? :o
i hope it goes into epic long game with 3x maxed 200/200 battles, rofl
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I'm excited :D
but then I look down the list.
Protoss
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interesting
GL TL!
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
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With that lineup, TL is going to own!
But I guess it's for just users, not staff.
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Wow, I just realized, six protoss?
btw, are our guys REALLY the best, cause aren't half of them somewhat inactive?
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1a) icc sets up their countdown.
1b) people suspect TSL2
1c) Mods deny.
2a) TL adverts announcements at showmatch same time.
2b) People suspect TSL2
2c) Mods deny.
3) A lot of top foreigners are mysteriously "busy" at that time, except the last winner, who would be granted a spot without laddering.
4) testie takes a break in Dota for sc.
You can say what you want, but to me it is completely obvious. The top foreigners dont want to play in the showmatch because they want start laddering the same second TSL2 is off.
It is basically official now.
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YAY CLOUDDDDDDDDDDDD <3333
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lawl@lineup some "surprising" changes :O;:
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I don't know much about the ins and outs of 3v3 I was wondering and hoping that a zerg is not a prerequisite for a good team. If it's not testie and machine for 2v2 and hoping for a zz team. 2pac, Naz and one other for 3v3. Sounds like a fun event.
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Kennigit
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On December 05 2008 02:27 Cascade wrote:
1a) icc sets up their countdown.
1b) people suspect TSL2
1c) Mods deny.
2a) TL adverts announcements at showmatch same time.
2b) People suspect TSL2
2c) Mods deny.
3) A lot of top foreigners are mysteriously "busy" at that time, except the last winner, who would be granted a spot without laddering.
4) testie takes a break in Dota for sc.
You can say what you want, but to me it is completely obvious. The top foreigners dont want to play in the showmatch because they want start laddering the same second TSL2 is off.
It is basically official now.
1) Housing market collapses, world begins to enter economic recession. No one wants to sponsor stuff
2) The CGS closes its doors leading more companies to have less faith in esports
3) Barrack Obama elected first African American president - shows change - TL staff don't want to be caught up in the past (TSL) want to do something different
4) Cloud retires from SC
5) Nony goes to korea probably won't have time to TSL
6) JF starting university may not have time for SC as much
in conclusion TSL will never happen ever again.
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United States17042 Posts
This looks sick. Love the TSL 2 discussion, and the fact that it had to be explicit in the OP that it won't be TSL2.
TL fighting
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So are we going to get owned this time.
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is testie gonna show up? that would be something
no Nony?? ={
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On December 05 2008 03:10 Kennigit wrote:
1) Housing market collapses, world begins to enter economic recession. No one wants to sponsor stuff
2) The CGS closes its doors leading more companies to have less faith in esports
3) Barrack Obama elected first African American president - shows change - TL staff don't want to be caught up in the past (TSL) want to do something different
4) Cloud retires from SC
5) Nony goes to korea probably won't have time to TSL
6) JF starting university may not have time for SC as much
in conclusion TSL will never happen ever again.
1) Probably true
2) They barely had any to begin with
3) lolwat
4) Wasn't he 1 win away from going to Korea? Did he retire because he didn't make it?
5) Sadly true, but if he makes proleague, that's fine. Oh wait, Idra was in TSL1 even though he was in Korea.
6) I've played as much, if not more video games since entering University than I did in high school.
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roster looks good. needs more rekrul though
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United Arab Emirates5091 Posts
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w00t dec 6 is my bday too!! im so excited for these matches its like an awesome bday present 
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TESTIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On December 05 2008 02:12 Wasabi wrote:
O shit. Here comes the Koreans. TL's first loss?
haha what about the loss to BGHers? I guess they should play against ygclan next.
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I can't wait to see Testie back in action!
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
On December 05 2008 05:30 Luddite wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2008 02:12 Wasabi wrote:
O shit. Here comes the Koreans. TL's first loss? haha what about the loss to BGHers? I guess they should play against ygclan next.
I don't think that counts.
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On December 04 2008 16:11 MrHoon wrote:
omgggg finally a match that isnt going to be one sided rape
I think it will be.
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On December 04 2008 20:27 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2008 20:23 fearus wrote:yg problaly has a stack of B+ level amauters... tl is gonna get 0-7'd you suggest that JF and the others cannot handle b+ level amateurs? You gotta be kidding. BUt there's a real chanse that the korean site has some A ranked players in their lineup
lol, you post that as if JF & crew would just bash B+ KOREANS. Yeah right.
These games should be close.
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On December 05 2008 03:10 Kennigit wrote:
4) Cloud retires from SC
Iirc he was only leaving ToT, not quitting SC entirely.
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last match should be on TMM :p
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I hope TL is wearing steel pants....
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
Yeah seriously guys this could very easily become a rapefest hahahaha. Thats fine though i think they will be fun games (especially the BGH one :o )
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dang, why teamliquid has to do this...
sorry boys, i have to cheer it up for ygosu
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Nice, will be really cool to see the scores! And funny to see Testie's skills nowdays ;-p
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this should be great, i cant wait!
we shudda gotten NonY
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my guts tell me that without "gg" in the name of the opponent, tl will have hard time
YGOSU
dang
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Testie Fighting !
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We might as well change the site name from team liquid to team protoss!
Artosis and machine and 2/3 of Testie fighting!!!
+ Show Spoiler +Also <3 JF and Cloud even though they play the wrong race
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Change ur nick to BadIdeas!
GO TL!
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i've watched the other showmatches and they werent very entertaining since TL pretty much schooled everyone
i hope the sides will be even since there's alot of big names in the TL lineup
a 7-0 from ygosu wouldnt be very fun to watch D:
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iNfeRnaL
Germany1908 Posts
Why the fuck nobody told me that there's a BGH game too?
Are u serious about dat?! FFS!
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why is there a random Croatian? =p
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On December 05 2008 08:10 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Why the fuck nobody told me that there's a BGH game too?
Are u serious about dat?! FFS!
because your BGH is imba... you play too much of it ;p
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This is really awesome! ^^ I hope you guys do well vs the Korean site. Hope to find out soon who they might be considering to play against you guys.
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I fail to understand why Chill doesn't play -.-
Is it cause he sucks more than every person on the lineup?
It's very cool that Artosis is playing though!
And also cool that we got JF on the lineup.
But Chill!!!! He's like super awesome.
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insane you better fucking win the bgh game
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Solid lineup
Good luck TL.net~
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Hmm interesting that the english cast of tl v ygosu and the iccup countdown start at the same time.
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
On December 05 2008 09:49 Kuja900 wrote:
Hmm interesting that the english cast of tl v ygosu and the iccup countdown start at the same time.
Its TSL2
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OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG YAY!!!!! Fucking love these rival site matches. Looking forward to it :D
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Sigh... I love most of these guys on the TL roster, but in all fairness, YG could bring their fucking toilet scrubbing squad and clean it up with ease. If they bring real players this is going to be tragic.
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damn i think we're gonna get owned this time
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On December 05 2008 09:53 Kennigit wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2008 09:49 Kuja900 wrote:
Hmm interesting that the english cast of tl v ygosu and the iccup countdown start at the same time. Its TSL2
omg, now I'm confused again...
We all know deny = it's true, but what when the mods confirm???
my brainz!
The painz!!
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ICC is merging with TL. The two sites sent out their strongest negotiators and together finally succeeded in convincing Tiger to come back and run things.
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On December 05 2008 09:44 KOFgokuon wrote:
insane you better fucking win the bgh game
There is no game on BGH, only Hunters. :D
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On December 05 2008 10:26 fonger wrote:
ICC is merging with TL. The two sites sent out their strongest negotiators and together finally succeeded in convincing Tiger to come back and run things.
Actually, the idea of TL and iccup merging fits.
-It fits the banner, "This will be the last season of iccup"
-It fits the timing of the announcement
-It fits the fact that the mods said that it isn't TSL2.
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A heavy protoss lineup huh.
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We better win the hunters game, do koreans even play that map?
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where can the stream be found??? right here??? or somewhere else?? sorry i'm a noob... but i really wanna watch this and idk how!!!
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
Just show up at Saturday 4pm EST and there will be links to the stream
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oh ok... that clears things up~~ haha thanks for helping a noob
so i just go right here to teamliquid at 4pm and the links will be there right?? easy enough!
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On December 05 2008 11:03 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2008 10:26 fonger wrote:
ICC is merging with TL. The two sites sent out their strongest negotiators and together finally succeeded in convincing Tiger to come back and run things. Actually, the idea of TL and iccup merging fits. -It fits the banner, "This will be the last season of iccup" -It fits the timing of the announcement -It fits the fact that the mods said that it isn't TSL2.
If the shoe fit, wear it.
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On December 05 2008 12:00 jhk82094 wrote:
where can the stream be found??? right here??? or somewhere else?? sorry i'm a noob... but i really wanna watch this and idk how!!!
I'm pretty sure 2v2 and 3v3 on Hunters is really popular in Korea. It used to be, at least. Not sure about 1v1....
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hmm thought testie retired..
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MURICA15980 Posts
This is going to be so goodh aha
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On December 04 2008 21:28 Senx wrote:
iNfeRnaL - not good enough
Machine - might have a chance
Machines a cool guy, but infernal is definitely better than machine, heh.
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pretty solid line up, but i dont think its TL's best lineup?
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Nice lineup but in a news like this i would have placed Nazgul first in row for known reason, and i miss Midian ;(
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maybe, TL vs. NetWars.pl?
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On December 05 2008 06:07 Salv wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2008 20:27 Geo.Rion wrote:On December 04 2008 20:23 fearus wrote:yg problaly has a stack of B+ level amauters... tl is gonna get 0-7'd you suggest that JF and the others cannot handle b+ level amateurs? You gotta be kidding. BUt there's a real chanse that the korean site has some A ranked players in their lineup lol, you post that as if JF & crew would just bash B+ KOREANS. Yeah right. These games should be close.
I'm absolutely sure JF and some of the others would beat any B+ player, regardless where they come from. B+ koreans worth as much as b+ foreginers. Ther's no difference at all.
it's like 1 kg iron and 1 kg feather, which is heavyer? To you i guess the 1 kg iron, but it's even
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Holy shit this is going to be great. The lineup for our side is amazing.
I'll be amazed if they send in XellOs and Canata. (SO NOT HAPPENING LOL)
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Copy pasted lineup from the ygosu site courtesy of Google Translation:
1 set <Python> eun [fOu] (T)
2 set <Hunters (team 2:2)> Choya [KaL] (P), 1a2a3a [fOu] (Z)
3 Set <Blue Storm> Choya [KaL] (P)
4 Set <Andromeda> 1a2a3a [fOu] (Z)
5 Set <Destination> Clide [WHITE] (T)
6 Set <Hunters (team 3:3)> eun [fou] (T), Rani [KaL] (P), HOn_Zapcho (Z)
7 set <Colosseum II> Rani [KaL] (P)
Here's the lineup straight from the site.
+ Show Spoiler +■ 와이고수 엔트리
1세트 <파이썬> eun[fOu](테란)
2세트 <헌터(2:2 팀플레이)> Choya[KaL](프로토스) 1a2a3a[fOu](저그)
3세트 <블루스톰> Choya[KaL](프로토스)
4세트 <안드로메다> 1a2a3a[fOu](저그)
5세트 <데스티네이션> Clide[WHITE](테란)
6세트 <헌터(3:3 팀플레이)> eun[fou](테란) Rani[KaL](프로토스) HOn_Zapcho(저그)
7세트 <콜로세움> Rani[KaL](프로토스)
Looks like they've already designated which player plays on which map. I thought they were supposed to keep it a secret?
Source: http://www.ygosu.com/?m=news&idx=1210
[Edited some of the translation to make more sense]
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MURICA15980 Posts
guess they're just super confident? haha
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wow thats a beastly lineup
i thought they'd bring regular guys, not pro/semiprogamers
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
lol;; ygosu really wants to win this apprently
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Braavos36374 Posts
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Hahah wow, impressive line-up from YG.
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
we need some epic nazgul cheese strat for sure.
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Damn, YG isn't playing around lol
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I'm sooo looking forward to this! gl hf gg!
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Good luck TL You're gonna need it.
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
holy fuck man these guys really arent shitting around hahaha
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
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On December 05 2008 18:17 Hot_Bid wrote:here's something MYM.DinOt said about Clide: Show nested quote + 4. Due to the high ranking achieved, a lot of TSL players had the chance to play against some Korean progamers? Did this happen to you too? </font>
Im not sure if Clide[WHITE] is progamer or something closer, but he's the strongest zerg I have ever played, he did no mistakes. but hey, terror isn't THAT good, he lost to both Jaedong in PL and Free in Survivor back in 2007. LOL we are screwed
oh well then this is easy lol. i have faith though!!
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Well they said that tl should bring its best players :O
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Hahahah oh shiiit hahahah.
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TL got this, don't give up guys !
Oh wait~~
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Oh man, this is gonna be brutal.
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so what's next SK Telecom ?
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tho them showing up with team korea would have been good to know in advance
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oh Boy, best of luck to TL
Edit: i just saw 1a2a3a's rep on ygosu.... :-((
Although TL has some advantages in terms of we have nothing to lose while they have their reputation on the line.
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go TL!!
this time the battle will be brutal!! c'mon guys!! show the power of foreigners!! XD
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On December 05 2008 19:27 MrHoon wrote:
holy fuck man these guys really arent shitting around hahaha
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How about we send a second request to Nony, Idra and Sea, including their lineup?
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oh my god - yG is out for blood O_O
idra + nony would be nice considering they are pulling pros !!!
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Hahahahaha, dear God what a fucking lineup by YG!
BTW; please make Liquibet for this lol.
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rofl this just keeps getting better and better everytime i read it. good luck guys!
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looking forward to this : D.
Im confused about the stream though:
There will also be a Korean stream running live at 2am EST commentated on by ilovezil, LosingID8 and lilsusie.
Is the commentary gonna be in korean or english?
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Belgium9945 Posts
this lineup.. wow, they're gonna rape us hard. I guess Infernal can enlighten us how strong the KaL players are in that lineup. eun and terror don't need an introduction lol
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On December 05 2008 22:59 Glider wrote:
oh Boy, best of luck to TL
Edit: i just saw 1a2a3a's rep on ygosu.... :-((
Although TL has some advantages in terms of we have nothing to lose while they have their reputation on the line.
Yeah, TL has already proven it is the best English site, losing to a Korean site sporting progamers isn't exactly shameful.
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can't wait for the live stream wooooh!
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MURICA15980 Posts
I tihnk we can take the 3v3
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
On December 06 2008 02:05 Yizuo wrote:looking forward to this : D. Im confused about the stream though: Show nested quote +There will also be a Korean stream running live at 2am EST commentated on by ilovezil, LosingID8 and lilsusie. Is the commentary gonna be in korean or english?
Korean
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On December 06 2008 02:42 motbob wrote:Predictions: Please prove me wrong
Is eun[fOu] that good? JF is top 5 foreigner.
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On December 06 2008 02:57 Zzoram wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 06 2008 02:42 motbob wrote:Predictions: Please prove me wrong Is eun[fOu] that good? JF is top 5 foreigner.
Watch JF's recent matches against Cloud.
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OMFG im going to miss that. Im heading to the mountains tomorrow fuckfuckfuckfukkfucfukcufkckfuck!!!111!~
Btw im a pessimist by nature, but this doesnt seem like its going to be a onesided rape to me.
GO TL FKN OWN!
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LOL 1a2a3a plays zerg
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So will this be streamed? How can I watch?
As with all Teamliquid showmatches, this will be streamed with commentary. However due to the event being played at 2am EST the broadcast will unfortunately be delayed until 4pm EST the same day. This is to give our users (and casters) a decent hour in which to watch and enjoy these games. There will also be a Korean stream running live at 2am EST commentated on by ilovezil, LosingID8 and lilsusie. You are welcome to watch the Korean stream live, but please refrain from putting spoilers in obvious places for those who are waiting until the 4pm EST stream. There will also be a special announcement occurring sometime during the 4pm broadcast (which is not TSL2).
Um, so where exactly can we watch the stream the Korean stream and the later stream? @ teamliquid.net;
You didn't really answer how we can watch, but you did mention the times which were nice.
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MURICA15980 Posts
Just come to TL.net and you'll find the link to the stream in the banner above the center ad.
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On December 06 2008 03:05 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2008 02:57 Zzoram wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 06 2008 02:42 motbob wrote:Predictions: Please prove me wrong Is eun[fOu] that good? JF is top 5 foreigner. Watch JF's recent matches against Cloud.
Can you recommend any specific ones? Links?
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Braavos36374 Posts
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On December 06 2008 05:23 Hot_Bid wrote:
Believe in TSL2? Or believe that TL will beat ygosu?
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Braavos36374 Posts
On December 06 2008 05:25 Zzoram wrote:Believe in TSL2? Or believe that TL will beat ygosu?
wat
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On December 06 2008 05:27 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2008 05:25 Zzoram wrote:On December 06 2008 05:23 Hot_Bid wrote: Believe in TSL2? Or believe that TL will beat ygosu? wat
Both please.
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Braavos36374 Posts
On December 06 2008 05:29 Zzoram wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2008 05:27 Hot_Bid wrote:On December 06 2008 05:25 Zzoram wrote:On December 06 2008 05:23 Hot_Bid wrote: Believe in TSL2? Or believe that TL will beat ygosu? wat Both please.
Oh you want TSL2? i was under the impression, from all the lack of speculation and support in threads completely unrelated to TSL2, that you didn't, so we've been just intentionally delaying it. thanks for clarifying!
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On December 06 2008 05:32 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2008 05:29 Zzoram wrote:On December 06 2008 05:27 Hot_Bid wrote:On December 06 2008 05:25 Zzoram wrote:On December 06 2008 05:23 Hot_Bid wrote: Believe in TSL2? Or believe that TL will beat ygosu? wat Both please. Oh you want TSL2? i was under the impression, from all the lack of speculation and support in threads completely unrelated to TSL2, that you didn't, so we've been just intentionally delaying it. thanks for clarifying!
win
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How were the maps chosen?
I get Python and Blue storm, but how popular are the other maps?
Do people really not like Hannibal for 2v2? Or is Hunters 2v2 fun that I've been missing out on?
I heard that if I don't get answers iccup will shut down. Beware!
Edit: I forgot to mention that lately Destination is my favorite map. It's so simple, yet so good.
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rofl @ hotbids photo ;p
lol
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I should get Mondi to play the 2v2, sadly he'd be asleep at that time.
I'm sure I could secure us a 2v2 win. ;p
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On December 06 2008 05:49 MYM.Testie wrote:
I should get Mondi to play the 2v2, sadly he'd be asleep at that time.
I'm sure I could secure us a 2v2 win. ;p
Fasho
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mondragon and his 0 tl posts couldnt crack a pack of butter
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On December 06 2008 05:49 MYM.Testie wrote:
I should get Mondi to play the 2v2, sadly he'd be asleep at that time.
I'm sure I could secure us a 2v2 win. ;p
that's what i said pages ago
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Braavos36374 Posts
On December 06 2008 06:11 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
mondragon and his 0 tl posts couldnt crack a pack of butter
that and he said hunters is crazy imba against z
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Naz: He reads!
HB: Like that would remotely matter. But it is too late for him tho. ;p
bad time etc. ;p
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I thought ol' Mondi said he stays out of TL / gosugamers / whatever cause he says it's just a bunch of people flaming each other.
ARE YOU READING THIS NOW MONDRAGON!??!
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Braavos36374 Posts
On December 06 2008 06:46 MYM.Testie wrote:
HB: Like that would remotely matter. But it is too late for him tho. ;p
bad time etc. ;p
i was making the jokes.
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IefNaij < eun[fOu]
Nazgul / HnR)Insane <<< Choya[KaL]/ 1a2a3a[fOu]
Machine << Choya[KaL]
ClouD << 1a2a3a[fOu]
iNfeRnaL > Clide[WHITE]
Insane/ Testie/ 2Pacalypse- >> eun/ Rani/ Modern[fOu]
Artosis < Rani[KaL]
I hope I'm wrong in TL's favor
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Where will the 2am stream be posted? on Ygclan's site?
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sooooooooo excited for Canadian Testie to rape some Korean!!!!
GL TL.net.
any info on 2pacalypse?
also a bit disappointed that Nazgul isn't playing a 1v1 would've been awesome.
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On December 06 2008 08:32 rushz0rz wrote:sooooooooo excited for Canadian Testie to rape some Korean!!!! GL TL.net. any info on 2pacalypse? also a bit disappointed that Nazgul isn't playing a 1v1 would've been awesome.
I rmember watching a rep where nazgul raped boxer on LT... That was my first ever pro rep, and it was like 40mins long o.o
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sad the 2x2 is on hunters, hope it wont be <10min
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CA10825 Posts
On December 06 2008 08:28 naonao wrote:
Where will the 2am stream be posted? on Ygclan's site?
why would it be posted on YGOSU when we are the ones hosting and casting the stream lol
but really, it will be posted both on TL's main page and on YGOSU when its almost time to start.
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Does any1 know how the normal YGOSU users think about teamliquid or the match result any idea: D?
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OMG.... CANT WAIT!!!
2Pacalypse- You better rape someone!!! And is it just me or is the TL team very p oriented?? I think they have a better spread of races but our players will just have to make up for it!!!
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On December 05 2008 17:13 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2008 06:07 Salv wrote:On December 04 2008 20:27 Geo.Rion wrote:On December 04 2008 20:23 fearus wrote:yg problaly has a stack of B+ level amauters... tl is gonna get 0-7'd you suggest that JF and the others cannot handle b+ level amateurs? You gotta be kidding. BUt there's a real chanse that the korean site has some A ranked players in their lineup lol, you post that as if JF & crew would just bash B+ KOREANS. Yeah right. These games should be close. I'm absolutely sure JF and some of the others would beat any B+ player, regardless where they come from. B+ koreans worth as much as b+ foreginers. Ther's no difference at all. it's like 1 kg iron and 1 kg feather, which is heavyer? To you i guess the 1 kg iron, but it's even
We disagree then, I would pick a B+ Korean over a B+ foreigner any day.
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Braavos36374 Posts
these guys aren't really B+ in the sense that we know it, they are on the B-team of proteams and some even have tv matches under their belts. in all the 1v1s our guys are for sure the underdogs, and any 1v1 win would be a huge accomplishment. the team games i'm not sure what will happen, we could get raped harder or possibly even win, no clue. most likely lose even harder haha.
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so this starts at 2am eastern time? and 11pm on Dec 05 for the west coast?
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On December 06 2008 10:57 Hot_Bid wrote:
these guys aren't really B+ in the sense that we know it, they are on the B-team of proteams and some even have tv matches under their belts. in all the 1v1s our guys are for sure the underdogs, and any 1v1 win would be a huge accomplishment. the team games i'm not sure what will happen, we could get raped harder or possibly even win, no clue. most likely lose even harder haha.
Even in the sense of Geo's argument though; B+ Koreans are considered stronger then B+ Foreigners, no?
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been up all night trying to fix my connection but it hasnt helped.. testie will take my spot in the 2v2 =[
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
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only 1 terran player? go to hell TL.net
bunch of monkey protoss 1a2a3a4a
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Update: Due to router problems, Nazgul cannot play in games with more than 2 people in it. Unfortunately Nazgul will be unable to play in the 2v2. As a result, Testie will be taking Nazgul's place in the 2v2.
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is anyone gonna post a link to the korean stream? edit-- nvm... ID8 said in his last post it'll be on the main page when it's about to begin. I fail at reading prior posts.
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Please god give Nazgul a 1v1.... PLEASE!!!!
He's old school and everyone wants to see his one last stream game!
edit: wait, more than 2 people, so its not even plausible for a 1v1, due to the obs being present. damn.
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Any idea when the stream will be up?
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On December 06 2008 12:19 Glider wrote:
so this starts at 2am eastern time? and 11pm on Dec 05 for the west coast?
Just look at the side bar dude! Upcoming events.
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where do i get the stream?
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starts in 22 mins according to calender<_<
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CA10825 Posts
stream will be up soon just wait
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commentaries in english?
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... read the thread please.
English commentary comes tomorrow morning (PST). Tonight is Korean commentary.
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its running 16 minutes but no stream yet =(
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Stream please..? Can't find a link on ygosu either, even with Google translation to help.
Would be appreciated, thanks.
EDIT: Just kidding, another thread has it:
mms://hatchery.teamliquid.net:19000/
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VLC stream can be found on TL's IRC.
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i just tuned, who is playing right now?
edit: nvm
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EDIT Fuck nevermind it's already going..
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looks like ive overslept :C
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omfg i have a bad feelign we gonna get raep :X
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How did it turn out, i fell asleep
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On December 04 2008 16:11 MrHoon wrote:
omgggg finally a match that isnt going to be one sided rape
very excited for this!
So much for that thought...
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EPT![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/funkie/acalltoarms.png)
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IefNaij < Python > ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Ticon_small.gif)
eun[fOu]![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tsld/images/flags/nl.png)
Nazgul/![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tsld/images/flags/us.png)
HnR)Insane < Hunters > ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Zicon_small.gif)
1a2a3a[fOu]
Machine < Blue Storm > 
ClouD < Andromeda > 
iNfeRnaL < Destination > ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Ricon_small.gif)
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