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Auction OSL Ro8 - Symbol vs Maru, Innovation vs Soulkey

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Auction OSL Ro8 - Symbol vs Maru, Innovation vs Soulkey

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July 23rd, 2013 00:15 GMT
2013 WCS KOREA
WCS Korea Season II

Ro8 - Day One Preview
Maru vs. Symbol
INnoVation vs. Soulkey

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Ro8: Day 1 Preview

Finally, the group stages are over and we're left with just eight players. From here on out it's a single elimination bracket, where it's win or go home. The quarter-finals of the Auction Starleague begin tonight!

Countdown

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Quarter-Final Match One: (Z)Azubu.Symbol vs. (T)MaruPrime

by CosmicSpiral

When it comes to premier tournaments, Symbol is forever living in Groundhog Day. One year ago the idea that Symbol would not once, not twice, but four times lose the finals of an important LAN live event played through battle.net was unthinkable. How could the most clutch player of the GSTL season, the man who reverse all-killed Incredible Miracle when IM was actually using its good players, turn into a perennial choke artist? Did MarineKing manage to transfer his evil concoction of tears and failure to an innocent young Hwaseung Oz recruit?

But maybe his misfortune is an indicator of much better things to come. We’ve seen many emerging players go through the same cycle. They show steady improvement over a period of 6-12 months, explode with a short string of great results, and afterwards…mediocrity. Naturally the competition takes measures to neuter the threat and uses its strengths against it. Habits are dissected, builds examined and countered, and new concepts improved and disseminated until what was once new and amazing becomes the standard. Meanwhile the rising star is confronted by growing expectations and the stress of turning his hot streak into his normal skill level. It becomes so easy to dread the next match when the prospect of disappointing your fans, teammates, and personal expectations is always around the corner. Unsurprisingly most players crack under the pressure and revert into merely good players. A few transcend their issues and become the best players in the world. Some unfortunate souls like Seed and jjakji are more like fragile flowers and immediately wither after they bloom.

Symbol was one of the exceptional cases that conformed to none of the above. He kept his head down, studiously improved his gameplay, and ended up as one of the most consistent players in the world. He never announced his arrival with a championship, yet he quietly accomplished something more impressive over the long run. Consider that today marks the third consecutive time Symbol has reached the Ro8 in the GSL/OSL and the ninth time he’s reached the Ro8 in a major tournament. If he wins tonight, it will be the sixth time he achieved a Ro4 finish since February of last year. Not bad for someone ensnared in the long reach of the Kong dynasty.

As for Maru, time will tell whether he is fool’s gold or the real deal. Everything about him screams potential and most of his results suggest that said potential has not been reached. He’s young (only 16), daring enough to do whatever it takes to win, and already one of the best terrans in Korea. Additionally the track record of Korean prodigies has looked pretty good in SC2. But Maru needs more than the promise of greatness to earn comparisons with Life and Creator. He requires solid wins against top players in demanding circumstances. Beating Symbol in the most prestigious tournament in the world would be a good start.

The stakes for Prime should not be underestimated either. While they aren’t in danger of walking the path of HoSeo yet, the team has struggled to make a case for why they still matter. Gone are the days when Prime was the king of team leagues and home to the best terrans in the world. Now they are a hodgepodge of players who perform below slightly inflated expectations, or don't perform at all. Byun’s chances to reclaim his old strength slowly die every time he fails to get out of Challenger League. MarineKing is slowly returning back to prominence but his reputation is still running primarily on fumes of pity and nostalgia. Creator is struggling to transfer his WoL playstyle to HotS and won’t be the monster that terrorized WCS Korea last summer for another few months (if he ever will be). No one hears a peep out of Classic and Terius. Maru taking the stage in the OSL is the only thing that keeps us believing that Prime is still relevant in the grand scheme of things.

For both players, this is the easiest stage of a grueling run to the finals. Whoever presses on must confront either Innovation or Soulkey, a match that will test the limits of their preparation and skill. And I think Symbol will be the one who fights for that ticket to the finals. Maru has the power of unpredictability and a considerably strengthened race behind him but he is still raw in terms of experience on the big stage. Before tonight he had never gotten past the group stages of GSL and had only attended one foreign tournament where he finished in the top 32. Meanwhile this is all old news for Symbol and you can tell that he’s tired of repeating this dance. For Maru this is the greatest challenge of his career, for Symbol it's going through the motions.


Your teammate, MarineKing? I'm sorry, I've killed so many of them I can't remember their names.


Prediction: Symbol 3 - 1 Maru


Quarter-Final Match Two: (Z)Woongjin_Soulkey vs. (T)STX_INnoVation

by stuchiu

“All truths and untruths were made clear by the light of his name. Innovation, born Bogus, he who was reborn under the waters of Yongsan and anointed on the Korean ladder. He who scattered the swarm to the four winds. He who led the soulful disciples from the valley of the shadows to the sacred land of Jamsil. He who brought a new dawn to the Kingdom of Terran.

And for a time, there was peace. Terran came to reign supreme once more, and the lieutenants of the Zerg swarm fled before their wraith. The apostle Dream expelled RorO from the Holy City of Seoul. SjoW exorcised Life from the Realm of Sweden. And Polt freed the philistines of America from HyuN's tyranny.

Yet, the Unholy One continued to defy the will of Innovation. Soulkey, the dark star of Woongjin and master of all Zergs, continued to corrupt the souls of men and blacken Innovation's heart.

And thus, INnoVation spoke words of war. ‘For the dark one, there shall be no surrender, no exile, no mercy. For Soulkey, destruction is his fate. We shall fight in Korea, we shall fight in the waters of Yongsan, the studios of Gangnam, the gymnasium of Jamsil. We shall fight in Cologne, we shall fight in Blizzcon. He will bleed upon the four corners of the earth, and the world will be purified by his blood.’”

- Book of (T)MajOr 19:3


Welcome to a finals before the finals. The last time these two met was in the previous Code S grand finals, where Innovation went up to 3 - 0 in a convincing manner before Soulkey made the comeback of a lifetime to win four straight games and become the GSL champion. Since then, both players have become even better, solidifying their positions as the two best players in the entire world. At the WCS Season Finals, Soulkey got to the semis, while Innovation took home the championship. Both players have led their teams to the Proleague finals, and the Proleague championship is likely to come down to a duel between the two. And now, both players will do battle once more to see who will get the chance to win the OSL championship.

While it's not a final, the stakes for this match are as high as they could be. First off, whoever wins will be the odds on favorite to win the OSL. Innovation would feel like he's more than halfway to winning his first major Korean title if he can overcome the mountain that is Soulkey. Conversely, Soulkey would have to feel good about his chances of becoming the first dual OSL/GSL winner if he could beat Innovation again.

On top of that, this will be a preview of the Proleague finals. With STX evolving from a one-man show into a deep lineup backed by a super ace, it makes it all the more likely that an ace match will occur. And finally, a victory here will award an auto-berth into WCS Season Two Finals, while the loser will have to play through brutal seeding matches.

But more than just the money and the titles on paper, both players have something personal on the line as well.

For Innovation, this is about revenge. Last time Soulkey got the better of him in the finals with a full reverse sweep, blemishing Innovation’s otherwise perfect career in HotS. It was the only moment in Innovation’s career that he has ever looked vulnerable, mortal. This is the final test for Innovation. He has beaten the other four best Zergs in the world: Life, Leenock, Roro and Symbol. Only Soulkey has denied him complete dominion over Korea. This is the last battle that Innovation must fight if he wants to prove that he truly, beyond a shade of a doubt, the strongest player on the planet.

For Soulkey, this is about respect. Soulkey won his first ever GSL in a reverse-sweep reminiscent of his old teammate GGPlay, and all anyone wants to talk about is how it was just Innovation choking. When Innovation won the WCS Season One finals, people took that as proof of Innovation's superiority, even though he hadn't even beaten Soulkey in a series. Soulkey lead his team to the finals weeks before the end of the Proleague regular season, and all anyone talks about is how Innovation dragged his team from last place in the league to the finals. With his last GSL victory, Soulkey should have at least won the respect of the fans and his peers, but not even that is afforded to him as people continue to assume that he will naturally be defeated by INnoVation. Soulkey will not let this injustice go.

Everyone knows how Innovation will play. He will go into the mid and late game, getting fast upgrades and pump out an endless army of marines, medivacs and mines. He will constantly attack and drop, attack and drop. He will rip his opponent apart with the brute force of his mechanics. But no one knows how Soulkey will play. The last time he played a TvZ was over a month ago in a PL match against Cure. Since then hellbats have been nerfed, making Cure’s strategy no longer a viable option for Innovation to use. With no information about Soulkey at all, Innovation will have to play his standard style making him a perfect target for Soulkey. The last time Soulkey got a chance to prepare, he beat Innovation 4 - 3, and that was with plenty of advance scouting from Innovation as well. This time, Soulkey is playing completely shrouded while knowing everything about how Innovation plays.

For both players, this match is just the second act. The first act had Soulkey win the GSL finals. The second act will set up the winner as the favorite to win the OSL. The third act could potentially be at the PL finals or at WCS Season Finals. This is the rivalry of the new age. A pure battle of skill between the two best players of this era. They will fight in every major battle, whether it be OSL, GSL, PL or the WCS Worlds. It is an almost inevitable outcome as their only true rivals in this world are each other. No quarter will be given, and none will be expected. All the world is a stage, and Innovation and Soulkey are determined to be the only player to stand atop it.

Prediction: Soulkey 3 - 2 Innovation


More WCS Korea / Starleague Coverage

July 22 – First and Rain advance to Ro8 after triple tiebreakers.
July 17 – SuperNoVa secures his Ro8 spot while First faces the possibility of tie-breakers.
July 12 – Soulkey, Bomber, Maru cinch Ro8 spots; PartinG and Flash eliminated.
July 10 – First continues his surprise run, defeating Rain to go up 2 - 0 in Group B.
July 3 – First's immaculate PvT shines on first day of Ro16 matches
June 28 – SKT duo of PartinG and Rain advance from the final day of the Ro32
June 28 – Groups for Starleague Ro16 announced, Innovation and Flash in group B.


Writers: ComicSpiral and stuchiu.
Graphics: wo1fwood.
Editor: Waxangel.
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TheNoob69
Profile Joined July 2013
Singapore102 Posts
July 23 2013 00:24 GMT
#2
thats pretty interesting putting Soulkey over Innovation.
IMO Innovation 3:1 Soulkey
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 00:26:57
July 23 2013 00:25 GMT
#3
I love what you said about this starting to be true clashes and the start of a new rivalry, Innovation and Soulkey is always sick!

What Soulkey really has going for him is his mystery training, everyone knows how Innovation has and will play, and Soulkey no doubt will have heavily prepared due to PL and this match.
hangene92
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada258 Posts
July 23 2013 00:30 GMT
#4
My predictions for innovation vs soulkey would be 3-2
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 00:47:58
July 23 2013 00:30 GMT
#5
Soulkey 3-2, a bold prediction :D I like it.
iMrising
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1099 Posts
July 23 2013 00:38 GMT
#6
Agreed
gonna be tough for soulkey
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 23 2013 00:39 GMT
#7
Soulkey vs Innovation should have been the finals. Hopefully this could be the start of a beautiful rivalry. Flash vs Life hype has basically died down now.
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Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
July 23 2013 00:40 GMT
#8
Sick.
Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 23 2013 00:46 GMT
#9
gogo maru~
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DaftFunk
Profile Joined June 2013
194 Posts
July 23 2013 00:53 GMT
#10

Prediction: Soulkey 3 - 2 Innovation


O.o

i guess because of hellbat nerf? even then i have innovation taking down the slightly overrated zerg
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
July 23 2013 01:00 GMT
#11
I think it will be a close match as well but if you had to bet your life would you really go for SK here? :/
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renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
July 23 2013 01:02 GMT
#12
the major quote makes this entire article

cmon innovation!
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
July 23 2013 01:02 GMT
#13
innovation 3-0 soulkey, with ease
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ratpac
Profile Joined May 2012
14 Posts
July 23 2013 01:07 GMT
#14
Incredible write up. This is so hype it's seriously making me think about getting up at 4AM to watch this and saying f--k it I'll just go into work tired as hell tomorrow.
althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 01:12:39
July 23 2013 01:11 GMT
#15
On July 23 2013 09:53 DaftFunk wrote:
Show nested quote +

Prediction: Soulkey 3 - 2 Innovation


O.o

i guess because of hellbat nerf? even then i have innovation taking down the slightly overrated zerg

Can you actually be overrated when you are a Proleague powerhouse and won the last GSL, beating Innovation himeself in the final?

Even if somebody says he's the best player in the universe - that's praise that fits his acheivements, although not an opinion that I agree with (it's actually Boxer, but he is hampered a little by the Innovation suit he is currently wearing).
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
July 23 2013 01:30 GMT
#16
Maru 3-2
wInnovation 3-1

Go Maru!!!
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banjoetheredskin
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States744 Posts
July 23 2013 01:35 GMT
#17
Nerd Chills! Maru fighting! I believe! Go Prime! I really don't know if he can beat Symbol though
INnoVation seems like the favorite here, but I forgot how good Soulkey is. I'm gonna have to say Symbol 3-1, and probably INnoVation 3-2
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Deckard.666
Profile Joined September 2012
152 Posts
July 23 2013 01:39 GMT
#18
The major quotes are soo good.
But Soulkey > Innovation? Come on...
rshawer
Profile Joined December 2012
178 Posts
July 23 2013 01:58 GMT
#19
Damn... Teamliquid shows their balls and finally decided to not bet on Innovation
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
July 23 2013 02:02 GMT
#20
Yay, the TL predictions are finally EXACTLY the same as my own. 3-1 Symbol and 3-2 Soulkey
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CrazyHunter
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
United States83 Posts
July 23 2013 02:02 GMT
#21
Maru FIGHTING! Maru takes it 3-1 over Symbol #Believe #Prime
Innovation v SoulKey --- I don't care as long as it goes to the 5th match!
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Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 02:06:32
July 23 2013 02:06 GMT
#22
Hey TL writer, do you want to make a bet 1000€ on moneyline 2-2 odds for both on Soulkey(you) vs Innovation (me)? Or is your article full of lies and you don't actually believe what you write?

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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 23 2013 02:12 GMT
#23
On July 23 2013 11:06 Greenei wrote:
Hey TL writer, do you want to make a bet 1000€ on moneyline 2-2 odds for both on Soulkey(you) vs Innovation (me)? Or is your article full of lies and you don't actually believe what you write?

way to be an asshole lol
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Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
July 23 2013 02:13 GMT
#24
Soulkey vs Innovation seems like it's going to be the Flash vs. Jaedong of the new era...

I play Terran, but ever since those first KeSPA exhibition matches at MLG I saw something special in Soulkey, I'd been saying for MONTHS before his GSL victory that he was the best Zerg on the planet, and that's why I'll be cheering for him tonight.

Tonight should be one to remember, folks.

Let's

Get

Hype
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
July 23 2013 02:14 GMT
#25
Seems like an awfully aggressive challenge there, dude. What does "2-2 odds" even mean? Is that your really roundabout way of saying 50%? Because I'm not super sure how you even arrived at that conclusion from the article.
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jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
July 23 2013 02:16 GMT
#26
On July 23 2013 09:15 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:


Everyone knows how Innovation will play. He will go into the mid and late game, getting fast upgrades and pump out an endless army of marines, medivacs and mines. He will constantly attack and drop, attack and drop. He will rip his opponent apart with the brute force of his mechanics.


Just wanna point out that last GSL finals Innovation 2 rax rushed Soulkey twice, the first one being particularly brutal and effective. I wouldn't be surprised if he tried that again, or if he tries out some new cheese rush, especially since he probably won't being doing hellbat drop openers anymore.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 23 2013 02:20 GMT
#27
Great preview, gogo soulkey and symbol.
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
July 23 2013 02:38 GMT
#28
Inno 3-2 Soulkey.. even after the Hellbat change
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Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
July 23 2013 02:55 GMT
#29
INnoVation will just died to Soulkey's allins, cue the memories of Flash in BW dying because of his greedy predictability.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 03:03:52
July 23 2013 02:58 GMT
#30
On July 23 2013 10:00 Greenei wrote:
I think it will be a close match as well but if you had to bet your life would you really go for SK here? :/

What innovation really has going for him is his skill.
That is incredibly formidable.

However Soulkey has his skill, and then complete mystery.

It's hard to explain but this is huge in so many factors. Innovation has been playing again and again throughout last round of Proleague and then two TvZ's in playoffs.

So everyone knows how he plays. Maybe add in a tank if he suspects roaches or banelings, but at the core go for fast three bases into non stop widow mine aggression, swarming until eventually he can find a chink in his opponents armor. Soulkey already innovated against Inno with huge baneling hit squads, allowing him to win( or play evenly against) unlike other Zergs. No doubt a whole month where he was preparing for either Flash or Inno on Proleague Finals will allow him more such creations.

Soulkey has been the only player to take a macro game off of Innovation( am I wrong?); displaying incredible skill dealing wih drops and widow mine marine pushes, coupling that with a incredible work ethic and drive for glory, I believe he can take this series.

Edit: actually I think Roro too took a game on Whirlwind
Aserrin
Profile Joined October 2011
Uruguay231 Posts
July 23 2013 03:01 GMT
#31
Innovation and Symbol both 3:0
hli
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada32 Posts
July 23 2013 03:07 GMT
#32
Maru with a "strengthened race"? You're kidding right? His race was used to determine whether or not he'd beat Symbol? And how was the latest patch at all strengthening to T?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 23 2013 03:15 GMT
#33
On July 23 2013 12:07 hli wrote:
Maru with a "strengthened race"? You're kidding right? His race was used to determine whether or not he'd beat Symbol? And how was the latest patch at all strengthening to T?


Probably meaning the race is strengthened vsZ in HotS compared to the end of WoL.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 23 2013 03:19 GMT
#34
On July 23 2013 12:15 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 12:07 hli wrote:
Maru with a "strengthened race"? You're kidding right? His race was used to determine whether or not he'd beat Symbol? And how was the latest patch at all strengthening to T?


Probably meaning the race is strengthened vsZ in HotS compared to the end of WoL.

cosmicspiral is well known to be zerg biased anyway
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Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
July 23 2013 03:53 GMT
#35
On July 23 2013 12:15 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 12:07 hli wrote:
Maru with a "strengthened race"? You're kidding right? His race was used to determine whether or not he'd beat Symbol? And how was the latest patch at all strengthening to T?


Probably meaning the race is strengthened vsZ in HotS compared to the end of WoL.


Strengthened vsZ implies some kind of advantage, though strengthening vsZ in HotS compared to the end of WoL doesn't mean anything considering the state of WoL near the end.
DeCoder
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland236 Posts
July 23 2013 04:23 GMT
#36
Soulkey 3-1 Bogus
DustbinBieber
Profile Joined April 2013
France276 Posts
July 23 2013 04:28 GMT
#37
Soulkey, while universally considered as a great player, is still much much much better than what people think.
Really close, I want to go with Soulkey, it'll depend on how purely mechanic Bogus can make the games, cause if it's all army control and production-pump we all know it's going to be a Terran sweep.
Spec
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Taiwan931 Posts
July 23 2013 04:36 GMT
#38
This book of major stuff is getting too intense.
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liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
July 23 2013 04:59 GMT
#39
Soulkey to win isnt surprising. They are the ying to the others yang. But I feel Soulkey doesnt have a "weakness" to exploit.

Innovation plays his T v Z almost identical everytime, which is something Soulkey has exploited before.

Innov. did learn against Crazy though, abd built a tank which helped hold against the roach drop.

Will be close though, 3:2 is accurate
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7366 Posts
July 23 2013 05:02 GMT
#40
I feel like Soulkey over Innovation isn't quite as bold a predicition as people seem to think.

Personally I see Soulkey going 3-2 or 3-1. I guess the GSL finals are still riding high in my mind.
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PerSe
Profile Joined June 2013
United Kingdom550 Posts
July 23 2013 06:33 GMT
#41
Innovation has the superior mechanics, but Soulkey has the best reactionary play that I've yet seen from a SC2 player, relentlessly scouts and has an uncanny ability to know exactly how many units to produce to pull off a minimal defence.
Anvil666
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany122 Posts
July 23 2013 06:42 GMT
#42
"He will bleed upon the four corners of the earth, and the world will be purified by his blood." - hahaha oh my god that made my morning. Can't wait to watch this today - hopefully, my boss leaves me alone at work
Jmanthedragonguy
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada1202 Posts
July 23 2013 06:46 GMT
#43
Soulkey <3
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1350 Posts
July 23 2013 06:49 GMT
#44
Maru I believe in you!
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igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
July 23 2013 07:08 GMT
#45
Such a balanced race distribution
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Lock0n
Profile Joined December 2012
United Kingdom184 Posts
July 23 2013 07:18 GMT
#46
3-0 inno
3-0 symbol
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
July 23 2013 07:23 GMT
#47
Innovation 3-0 because it's Bo5 Soulkey doesn't have enough games for a reverse sweep
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 23 2013 07:28 GMT
#48
On July 23 2013 09:24 TheNoob69 wrote:
thats pretty interesting putting Soulkey over Innovation.
IMO Innovation 3:1 Soulkey



writers learned from korean predictions
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
July 23 2013 07:46 GMT
#49
On July 23 2013 16:23 Nirel wrote:
Innovation 3-0 because it's Bo5 Soulkey doesn't have enough games for a reverse sweep


INnoVatioN saved by the Bo5 format !

Seriously, that's a close call and I'd say 3 - 2, but wouldn't bet on any of them... Soulkey is slightly underrated imho, and didn't get enough credit for his win against INno last season I'd say (okay, INno crumbled, but still, he crumbled in the 7th game, Soulkey climbed back 3 games already being down 0 - 3, that's pretty insane !)

I'd say INnoVatioN ha sthe mechanics advantage, but Soulkey has the strategic/decision making advantage

Small differences that matter, but still small.

For the other match, well.. go Symbol 3 - 1 !
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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
July 23 2013 07:57 GMT
#50
Did that holy scripture bring tears to anyone else's eyes?
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
July 23 2013 08:30 GMT
#51
great article
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asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
July 23 2013 08:36 GMT
#52
GOGOGO MARU BEAST MODE ACTIVATE GOGOGO #primefaith #ibelieve #nevergiveup
rip prime
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
July 23 2013 08:42 GMT
#53
Soulkey and Innovation are both really, I believe, a notch above everyone else at the moment.

I hope Soulkey wins!
maru lover forever
SlayerOfYou
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
58 Posts
July 23 2013 08:47 GMT
#54
"And I think Symbol will be the one who fights for that ticket to the finals. Maru has the power of unpredictability and a considerably strengthened race behind him but he is still raw in terms of experience on the big stage"

Maybe im just reading too much into this 'considerably strengthened race', or just misinterpreting what he said, but that just seems like 'imba' speak that should not be so transparent in a team liquid article. Hope im just reading this wrong.
Go innovation!
I dunno symbol or maru both deserve to win hard to root for one over the other for me
zmsFlood
Profile Joined April 2013
Finland169 Posts
July 23 2013 08:51 GMT
#55
Gonna be some kick-ass games! 10 mins biatchees! P.s. watching from work (Kappa)
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esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
July 23 2013 09:26 GMT
#56
getting kinda bored with this book of major stuff on pretty much every article written about innovation lately... other then that, a good read, but i don't think inno will choke twice vs soulkey.
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
July 23 2013 09:31 GMT
#57
lol sucks for the losers of ro8 who have to fight loser of innovation/soulkey for wcs finals slot.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 23 2013 09:48 GMT
#58
On July 23 2013 11:02 kochanfe wrote:
Yay, the TL predictions are finally EXACTLY the same as my own. 3-1 Symbol and 3-2 Soulkey


Yay, you were both busted. I'm so hipster in predicting this.. kinda :D
OPL3SA2
Profile Joined April 2011
United States378 Posts
July 23 2013 09:51 GMT
#59
I've stayed up for this and I have to admit I'm a bit pumped for Soulkey vs Innovation in the GSL code S. BTW that's what it is. It's not OSL, it's not fucking WCS Premier league, its GSL code S. Damn, I really hate these new leagues treading on GSL's success.
Playoffs? You're talking about playoffs?
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
July 23 2013 10:44 GMT
#60
boom. maruprime.
rip prime
Crankyhobo
Profile Joined January 2011
United States12 Posts
July 23 2013 11:50 GMT
#61
All i can say is Widow mines lol? Soulkey outplaying innovation and losing. Time to roach bane all in until Terran get fixed.

User was warned for this post
AzBozz
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany518 Posts
July 23 2013 12:11 GMT
#62
well ...
MMA | MVP|Teaja|Polt|MKP|Byun|Maru|Thorzain|Creator|HasuObs|Socke|Lucifron|Vortix|Mana|Heromarine / PRIME and Mousesports fighting!!
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
July 23 2013 12:12 GMT
#63
damn. standard BoGus.
rip prime
RandyL
Profile Joined May 2013
Australia148 Posts
July 23 2013 12:13 GMT
#64
wInnovation ezpz 3-0
BurNIng your soul.
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
July 23 2013 12:22 GMT
#65
Justice has been done, so happy with today's results, especially Maru, its great to see him start to come into his own, even though I'd rather have Bogus go on to the final I hope Maru at least puts up a good fight. Though with the hellbat nerf who knows, Maru might just pull a Bomber.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Caladan
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany1238 Posts
July 23 2013 13:20 GMT
#66
Well, that article and the predictions now became rather funny...

Innovation, the boss. 8)
1handsomE
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States199 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 15:36:50
July 23 2013 15:29 GMT
#67
lol Terrans win out even after nerf. Now what do you have to say Zerg?


edit: LOL saw this after I posted


All i can say is Widow mines lol? Soulkey outplaying innovation and losing. Time to roach bane all in until Terran get fixed.


Just like ForGG vs. Stephano right? :trollface:
MarineKing / Jaedong / DeMusliM / SeleCT / Maru hwaiting!
zusch
Profile Joined March 2011
United States73 Posts
July 23 2013 15:52 GMT
#68
Anyone have a clue when we can expect the VoDs to be on WCS_OSL's Twitch?
jeri
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 17:49:30
July 23 2013 17:46 GMT
#69
wow soulkey got creamed pretty hard by bogus, dat was a pretty sweet sweet revenge <3 no zerg under last 4!! can i have "must buff zerg" ? hell yeah.
"The voices are back. Excellent." Dexter Morgan
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
July 23 2013 18:32 GMT
#70
Oh god I love those Major quotes.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
doktorLucifer
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States855 Posts
July 23 2013 19:14 GMT
#71
I'm watching the Inno vs Sk vods right now. I thoguht Artosis+Khaldor casted these? I saw part of game one before falling asleep :X

The vods on twitch are casted by some other casters. -_-
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
July 23 2013 21:21 GMT
#72
On July 24 2013 04:14 doktorLucifer wrote:
I'm watching the Inno vs Sk vods right now. I thoguht Artosis+Khaldor casted these? I saw part of game one before falling asleep :X

The vods on twitch are casted by some other casters. -_-


Go watch the khaldor vods then :p
maru G5L pls
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
July 23 2013 21:26 GMT
#73
On July 24 2013 06:21 neptunusfisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 04:14 doktorLucifer wrote:
I'm watching the Inno vs Sk vods right now. I thoguht Artosis+Khaldor casted these? I saw part of game one before falling asleep :X

The vods on twitch are casted by some other casters. -_-


Go watch the khaldor vods then :p


The vods you saw were OSL's vods, The GOMTV vods are located on their website for a fee
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
July 23 2013 21:31 GMT
#74
On July 24 2013 06:26 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 06:21 neptunusfisk wrote:
On July 24 2013 04:14 doktorLucifer wrote:
I'm watching the Inno vs Sk vods right now. I thoguht Artosis+Khaldor casted these? I saw part of game one before falling asleep :X

The vods on twitch are casted by some other casters. -_-


Go watch the khaldor vods then :p


The vods you saw were OSL's vods, The GOMTV vods are located on their website for a fee


You mean OGN.
maru G5L pls
Paragus
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6 Posts
July 23 2013 21:51 GMT
#75
When are the next matches? I can't wait to see the rest of the games.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 23 2013 21:53 GMT
#76
On July 24 2013 06:51 Paragus wrote:
When are the next matches? I can't wait to see the rest of the games.

thursday 18:00 kst!
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chuiboy
Profile Joined October 2011
55 Posts
July 24 2013 02:49 GMT
#77
Guys, expect TvT semfinals and grandfinals.
RandyL
Profile Joined May 2013
Australia148 Posts
July 24 2013 03:00 GMT
#78
On July 24 2013 11:49 chuiboy wrote:
Guys, expect TvT semfinals and grandfinals.

all around the world in different tournaments there are different racial distributions
like i if i remember correctly there wasn't a single terran in the last dreamhack ro8(?) something like that
yet whenever there are no zergs etc etc in ro4 zergs cry to the stars about imba imba zerg need buff
BurNIng your soul.
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
July 24 2013 16:42 GMT
#79
On July 24 2013 12:00 RandyL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 11:49 chuiboy wrote:
Guys, expect TvT semfinals and grandfinals.

all around the world in different tournaments there are different racial distributions
like i if i remember correctly there wasn't a single terran in the last dreamhack ro8(?) something like that
yet whenever there are no zergs etc etc in ro4 zergs cry to the stars about imba imba zerg need buff


That's also true for protoss and terran. Only the.. oh wait.
maru G5L pls
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