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WCS EU: Ro32 Group D Preview/Group C Recap (S2)

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WCS EU: Ro32 Group D Preview/Group C Recap (S2)

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Graphics byshiroiusagi
July 3rd, 2013 02:52 GMT
2013 WCS Europe

WCS Europe Season 2 - Premier League



Ro32: Group C Recap
MMA and MaNa advance

Ro32: Group D Preview
DIMAGA, Duckdeok, HasuObs, Dayshi

Brackets and standings on Liquipedia

VODs on Youtube

Ro32 Group C Recap

by Waxangel

MMA and MaNa advance from Group C, TLO and TAiLS down to Challenger

Results from Live Report Thread by NovemberstOrm.
+ Show Spoiler [Detailed Results] +
TLO vs. MaNa
(Z)TLO (P)MaNa
(Z)TLO <Star Station> (P)MaNa
(Z)TLO <> (P)MaNa

TLO wins 2-0!

MMA vs. TAiLS
(T)MMA <Neo Planet S> (P)TAiLS
(T)MMA <Newkirk Precinct> (P)TAiLS
(T)MMA (P)TAiLS

MMA wins 2-1!

Winners' Match
(Z)TLO <Newkirk Precinct> (T)MMA
(Z)TLO (T)MMA
(Z)TLO <> (T)MMA

MMA wins 2-0!

Losers' Match
(P)TAiLS <Newkirk Precinct> (P)MaNa
(P)TAiLS (P)MaNa
(P)TAiLS <Star Station> (P)MaNa

Mana wins 2-1!

Final Match
(Z)TLO <Newkirk Precinct> (P)MaNa
(Z)TLO (P)MaNa
(Z)TLO <Neo Planet S> (P)MaNa

Mana wins 2-1!



MMA and Mana advance to WCS EU Premier RO16!


"(T)Acer.MMA and (P)mouz.MaNa advance." It's a testament to the durability of these two multiple-championship winning players that such a headline is as unsurprising in 2013 as it was in 2011. Despite not being in peak form, MMA and MaNa were still able to shut down challenges from (P)MVP.TAiLS and (Z)Liquid`TLO to book their advancement to the round-of-sixteen.

(T)MMA looked sharp in particular, advancing in first place in the group. Having travelled to Germany to play on the European server for the online-based Ro32 group, he had the lag advantage as he went up against his first opponent, the Korea-stricken (P)TAiLS. Although TAiLS was able to take one game with a clever dark templar drop, his other two all-ins were rather poorly executed and MMA emerged with a quick 2 - 1 series victory.

In his second series against (Z)TLO, who had come up after running a ZvP clinic on MaNa, MMA opened up with a cheesy 2-rax build backed by his patented marine micro. Having gone for a greedy opener, TLO was powerless to stop the attack and quickly surrendered a point. The second game ended up being far closer, with TLO able to show the skills that saw him reach 5th place in the previous WCS Europe and 3rd place at HomeStory Cup VII. However, just as TLO looked to be in good shape after successfully fending off MMA's attacks and teching to ultralisks and 3/3, he threw his troops away in a bloody, headlong charge into widow mines. That loss proved impossible to come back from, and TLO was forced to surrender the series and the first Ro16 spot to MMA.

With his opponents not giving him all that much to work with, one was left with the feeling that MMA didn't get to show the viewers everything he had. There was not much to do - his opponents made mistakes, and he capitalized on them expertly—still a worthy performance from the first place finisher.

Down in the losers' match, (P)TAiLS repeated his cheesy gameplan against (P)mouz.MaNa, deciding that making a second nexus wasn't going to get him anywhere while he was playing cross server. As in his series against MMA, he did manage to take one map (with a 4-gate blink all-in), but his all-ins ended up being too predictable as MaNa simply hunkered down on defense to take a 2 -1 series win. That left MaNa and TLO, two of Europe's most well-known players, to vye for the final spot in the group.

At first it seemed like (Z)TLO would be the heavy favorite to win, having torn (P)MaNa apart with great roach-hydra use in their first meeting. The second series seemed to be going that way as well, as TLO fended off MaNa's warp-prism harassment in game one to pull out a win in the late game. However, even with three consecutive losses to TLO in the same day, MaNa was able to stay collected. Thrown into a chaotic late-game scenario against TLO in game two, he used zealot drops and mass-recall backed harassment to keep TLO disoriented and ultimately force him into a fatal base trade.

The second Ro16 spot of the night would be decided in one final match between TLO and MaNa on Neo Planet S. With MaNa opening phoenix, TLO made the incorrect read and decided he would go for economy. However, MaNa had actually been planning to follow-up with some zealot pressure, which ended up turning into game-winning damage as TLO was not at all prepared to defend. A desperate attempt to hold his third base failed, with many drones, queens, zerlings lost in the process. After that, the rest of the game was little more than a formality as MaNa build up an overpowering army to collect the final GG from TLO.

Ro32 - Group D Preview

by Premasiri

Games begin in...


4. (T)Mill.Dayshi

In most circumstances, a 60% overall winrate in HotS ought to stand one in good stead. Perhaps not so in group C of WCS EU Premier ro32. Although Dayshi has been able to take games and series against notable European players since the release of HotS (this week: TLO and Feast), his strength lies primarily in his tvz. Unfortunately for him, his opening matchup is vs Hasuobs, rather than always capitalized DIMAGA. As one of Europe’s most consistent and longstanding performers, Hasuobs seems the logical favourite to take this opening match – his strong all-round play has held up even against the strength of Terran drop play in Heart of the Swarm, with a perfectly respectable showing at Homestory Cup 7 that included a 2 - 0 victory over Thorzain. With Dimaga’s consistent form throughout WCS Season 1, placing top 4 regionally and reaching the season finals, it seems unlikely that Dayshi will get the opportunity to play his strong suit, TvZ, in the losers match.

3. (P)MVP.duckdeok

Duckdeok (formerly known as Finale) should be, on paper, a strong candidate to advance to the round of 16. With a Korean practice house environment and a strong showing in EU challenger league last season, surely the only Korean in the group should stand every chance to make it out of the group? Unfortunately, as with so many other Koreans seeking to optimize their chances in the semi-region-locked world of WCS, Duckdeok will be playing his group matches from Korea. While he would be on safe ground as a strong contender in the offline finals were he to make it through to the round of 16, latency can be undoing of any player, no matter their calibre.

Despite Dimaga’s most recent result being a poor performance at HSC7, the Ukrainian zerg has shown in his previous WCS performances that he has what it takes to topple Koreans of the highest level, taking a 2 - 0 victory over a cross-server burdened Mvp. This, and location factors combined make it likely we will see Duckdeok drop to the losers' match. Although he would likely be able to handle Dayshi, even with latency, a rematch against DIMAGA or a faceoff with Hasuobs both seem unpleasant prospects and will most likely be the end of the Team MVP player's WCS EU dreams for this season.

2. (P)mouz.HasuObs

Some players don’t know when to quit. Some, like Hasuobs, never seem to need to. While not an unstoppable, Korean-slaying juggernaut, Dennis Schneider has shown consistent results against even the strongest Europeans since the beginning of starcraft two. Most at home in Germany’s EPS, he is nevertheless a contender at nearly any event. With recent, relevant victories over Thorzain and Morrow at HSC 7, the Hasuobs playing tomorrow seems much stronger than the Hasuobs that lost to Dayshi in last season’s EU Challenger league. While he probably won’t cruise to any easy victories tonight, his millennium adversary should be a manageable threat. If Duckdeok were to manage the unlikely feat of besting Dimaga in his opening match, Hasuobs would have a very reasonable chance to make it out of the group in first place. With a particularly polished PvP winrate thus far in HotS, and taking into account the latency that Duckdeok would be playing with, such a match would be the best case scenario for the German player.

Even leaving aside this possibility, Dimaga and Hasuobs seem fairly evenly matched. Though not as outstanding as his mirror matchup, Hasu’s PvZ is certainly up to snuff and his staple macro play should never be written off. While I’d be tempted to give Dimaga the edge in such a winner’s match, Hasu would be more than capable of beating out Duckdeok in the final series of the bracket to make it out of the group.

1. (Z)Roccat.DIMAGA

Perhaps not everyone’s pick to make it out in first place, but hear me out. DIMAGA certainly doesn’t have the numbers on his side in this bracket. He’s got the lowest win rates, the least consistency thus far in HotS, and Aligulac.com projects him as by far the least likely to advance out of the group. Okay, so perhaps he’s not the DIMAGA he was at the very beginning of Wings of Liberty.

However, last season in WCS EU DIMAGA showed the world what he’s capable of. Performing strongly throughout the season, he beat most expectations to book a place at the season finals. Admittedly, he didn’t shine on that largest of stages, but who can be expected to in a group with Innovation, Roro, and Revival? Within the scope of the round of 32, DIMAGA has shown his brilliance before, and is capable of doing the same, here and now. If you were to review his recent games, you’d see plenty a loss. You’d also see those losses at the hands of players like Mvp and RorO. In this group, and against these players, Dimaga has what it takes to advance. With his first match being against a decent, but not outstanding Korean, playing with latency no less, what DIMAGA should be worried about most is holding his cool in the winner’s match. Should he manage that, he’ll once again secure a spot to play in front of the crowd that spurred him on to some of his finest play last season.

Predictions

DIMAGA > Duckdeok
HasuObs > Dayshi
DIMAGA > HasuObs
Duckdeok > Dayshi
HasuObs > Duckdeok

Dimaga and HasuObs advance

Writers: Premasiri and Waxangel
Graphics: shiroiusagi
Banner photo: ESL
Editor: Waxangel.
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FrostedMiniWheats
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United States30730 Posts
July 03 2013 03:07 GMT
#2
I picked Dayshi/Dimaga
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DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
July 03 2013 03:15 GMT
#3
On July 03 2013 12:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
I picked Dayshi/Dimaga

Ditto, I think Dayshi's ridiculous multipronged drop aggression will knock Hasu out
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banjoetheredskin
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States744 Posts
July 03 2013 03:21 GMT
#4
Duckdeok goose! MVP fighting
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
July 03 2013 03:25 GMT
#5
Dayshi/Dimaga to advance!
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HeadlessWonder
Profile Joined January 2013
United States1096 Posts
July 03 2013 03:28 GMT
#6
I'm super excited for this group. I think the players are all pretty evenly matched.

Go Hasu!
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partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
July 03 2013 04:44 GMT
#7
i think that they way underplayed dayshi here...
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neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
July 03 2013 04:48 GMT
#8
On July 03 2013 12:21 banjoetheredskin wrote:
Duckdeok goose! MVP fighting


lmao
that's a cute nickname for him.
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Sorathez
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia209 Posts
July 03 2013 04:57 GMT
#9
I still predict Dimaga/Duckdeok to advance.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
July 03 2013 05:43 GMT
#10
Dayshi #1!
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Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
July 03 2013 06:06 GMT
#11
I want to congratulate the new junior writers. You guys are a much needed force, congrats also to monk who despite mocking my poorly worded critic of the the Power Rank listen to my plea for a better WCS coverage (I probably don't have anything to do with that but let me dream)

HOWEVER, Dayshi >> Hasuobs. Dayshi is, like Bunny, and up-and-coming terran and despite his struggles in offline, he stays one of the best Terran player in Europe. He pummeled Hasu the last time they faced in Challenger league and I expect no less today.
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
July 03 2013 07:09 GMT
#12
If you had a cool ID like Finale, why would you change it to something so silly?
Elucidate
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
205 Posts
July 03 2013 07:14 GMT
#13
Poor TLO, but he played well and I'm sure he is going to tear the poor Challenger league a new hole in its brackets.
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DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
July 03 2013 07:56 GMT
#14
Dayshi will advance easily 1st place.
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hillman
Profile Joined February 2012
United States162 Posts
July 03 2013 08:13 GMT
#15
What's a duckdeok?
MuMeise
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany81 Posts
July 03 2013 08:30 GMT
#16
I think hasuobs and dayshi will advance.
hasus PvT is not the WoL PvT it was... He has troubles stopping the speedvac drops in hots. But his PvP is one of the best there is taking out Finale 2:0 last time. His PvZ is also pretty strong so I think:

dayshi>hasu
hasu>dimaga
hasu>finale
dayshi>dimaga
dayshi>finale

dayshi/hasuobs advance
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
July 03 2013 09:16 GMT
#17
You underestimate Dayshi I think.
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RoranRock
Profile Joined October 2011
France294 Posts
July 03 2013 09:57 GMT
#18
in challenger league, dayshi knocked out Hasu with a convincing 2-0.
Since duckdeok will have 2s lag, i think dayshi should go ahead and take at least the 2nd place in this group !

(plus he has maddelisk to support him :p)
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AzBozz
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany518 Posts
July 03 2013 10:36 GMT
#19
go hasu!
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Profile Joined May 2010
France471 Posts
July 03 2013 10:47 GMT
#20
Dayshi is far more dangerous than the other in the group, he should win without any issue.
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July 03 2013 11:10 GMT
#21
DIMAGA fighting!
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Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
July 03 2013 11:21 GMT
#22
On July 03 2013 18:57 RoranRock wrote:
in challenger league, dayshi knocked out Hasu with a convincing 2-0.
Since duckdeok will have 2s lag, i think dayshi should go ahead and take at least the 2nd place in this group !

(plus he has maddelisk to support him :p)

It was 2-1 but yes, he won without any problems. And should I add that he all-killed MVP a few weeks ago on NA server ? duckdeok didn't play but TAiLS did twice and so did Billowy and I consider them as a similar level as duckdeok (seriously this nickname... U_U).

Dayshi can fail, he already did a couple of times in the last two weeks (HSC and IEM qualifier) but I don't see him finishing last here. And it's a huge understatement.
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Orange_BuD
Profile Joined March 2012
Afghanistan40 Posts
July 03 2013 11:30 GMT
#23
The only way hasu obs can beat dayshi is all in , he don't have a single chance in macto game don't underestimate dayshi...
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HighPassage
Profile Joined June 2012
United States82 Posts
July 03 2013 11:36 GMT
#24
just remember ALL CAPS when you spell the man name
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MuMeise
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany81 Posts
July 03 2013 11:39 GMT
#25
On July 03 2013 18:57 RoranRock wrote:
in challenger league, dayshi knocked out Hasu with a convincing 2-0.
Since duckdeok will have 2s lag, i think dayshi should go ahead and take at least the 2nd place in this group !

(plus he has maddelisk to support him :p)


finale was taken out 2:0 by hasu last time. why do you think he will take second place?
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
July 03 2013 11:57 GMT
#26
On July 03 2013 20:36 HighPassage wrote:
just remember ALL CAPS when you spell the man name

Or just remember how you say it orally. You don't say his name, you yell it !
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oneill12
Profile Joined February 2012
Romania1222 Posts
July 03 2013 12:47 GMT
#27
Dayshi is going to advance.
jackslater
Profile Joined November 2012
Russian Federation604 Posts
July 03 2013 13:32 GMT
#28
Gogo dimaga!
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
July 03 2013 14:01 GMT
#29
dimaga and dayshi, calling it now.
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Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
July 03 2013 15:20 GMT
#30
Completely disagree with these predictions. I think Dayshi and Finale(duckdeok) are going to make it.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13983 Posts
July 03 2013 15:57 GMT
#31
I will say one thing: DIMAGA
ok fine two things: unless this is 2011 and we talking about stephano or huk, expect koreans to win
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LogiiK
Profile Joined June 2011
France185 Posts
July 03 2013 16:29 GMT
#32
Dayshi 4th ? come on....
a3den
Profile Joined April 2012
704 Posts
July 03 2013 16:44 GMT
#33
On July 03 2013 20:36 HighPassage wrote:
just remember ALL CAPS when you spell the man name


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VArsovskiSC
Profile Joined July 2010
Macedonia563 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-03 17:42:04
July 03 2013 17:41 GMT
#34

Predictions

DIMAGA > Duckdeok
HasuObs > Dayshi
DIMAGA > HasuObs
Duckdeok > Dayshi
HasuObs > Duckdeok

Dimaga and HasuObs advance



Lmao I can't believe that I disagree with all of those except Dimaga beating Hasu which sounds realistic-ish lol..

Think I'd pick Dayshi as first place without paws, and then either Dimaga or Duckdeok for the 2nd place.. Probably Dimaga, but wouldn't be surprised if Duckdeok got 2nd there TBH..
Another world, another place, another universe, won the race.. :) ;) :P
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33436 Posts
July 03 2013 18:23 GMT
#35
teeheehee
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renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
July 03 2013 18:38 GMT
#36
well at least hasuobs is making feel good for being old
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
July 03 2013 19:01 GMT
#37
I hate you Premasiri x)
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33436 Posts
July 03 2013 19:02 GMT
#38
ahahaha
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Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
July 03 2013 19:49 GMT
#39
WHAT THE FUCK DIMAGA, YOU FAILURE
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
Premasiri
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom30 Posts
July 03 2013 21:58 GMT
#40
So guys :3
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July 05 2013 12:32 GMT
#41
On July 03 2013 15:06 Otolia wrote:
I want to congratulate the new junior writers. You guys are a much needed force, congrats also to monk who despite mocking my poorly worded critic of the the Power Rank listen to my plea for a better WCS coverage (I probably don't have anything to do with that but let me dream)

HOWEVER, Dayshi >> Hasuobs. Dayshi is, like Bunny, and up-and-coming terran and despite his struggles in offline, he stays one of the best Terran player in Europe. He pummeled Hasu the last time they faced in Challenger league and I expect no less today.



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