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Auction OSL - Ro32 Day 2 Preview
sOs, Symbol, Curious, Maru, and more!


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Ro32 - Day 2 Preview


(T)Flash, (Z)Soulkey, (T)INnoVation, and (T)Bbyong were able to advance to the Ro16 on the opening day of OSL action, and now it's time for eight more players to step up and see if they have what it takes.

While not as star-studded as groups A and B, groups C and D contain a number of players who could be called dangerous dark horses, considering their expertise with tunneling, invisible units, and good old fashioned cheese.

Group C: sOs, Effort, soO, Maru

by Zealously

4. (T)MaruPrime

In comparison to the other two eSF prodigies Creator and Life, Prime's Terran youngster Maru has had limited success in the most prestigious leagues. Never having gotten further than the Round of 16 in the GSL despite every now and then showcasing some championship class Terran play, Maru has recently become even more overshadowed with the emergence of the KeSPA Terrans onto the scene. People no longer talk about MKP's stellar marine control or Bomber's macro as much as they do about Innovation's bio-mine control and Flash's never-ending streams of units. As a result, Maru – who has never (except for during a very short period of time) been one of the faces of the Terran race – has been removed from the spotlight.

But that's not all there is to it – Prime has looked very weak as of late, losing all but one of their GSTL matches against teams without stellar line-ups, and although Maru managed to take the fight to Life in a packed ZvT a few weeks ago and 3-killed MVP by taking out DRG, NAKSEO and KeeN, he hasn't looked strong enough to warrant a higher ranking than 4th in this group.

The one thing that speaks in Maru's favor in this group is his undeniable love for 11/11's, 8/8/8/'s and all varieties of cheese. A successful bunker rush will not only win you a game, it'll take you straight to the winners' match. His first opponent is soO, and with DRG (though in fairness, we question the impressiveness of beating DRG in his current shape) and NAKSEO on his recent kill-list, we're willing to accept that one or two well-placed and well thought-out all-ins by Maru and the PRIME team could be all Maru needs to pull the upset and get out of this group.

Oh, and don't forget soO unforgettable comment "They just seem so easy, the Prime team" from last season – you can be sure that if there is any player in the world Maru wants to beat, it'll be soO.

3. (Z)CJ_EffOrt

In third place, we have the only player in the group who has won a major championship in StarCraft. Effort's 3 - 2 comeback over Flash in the Korean Air OSL is the stuff of legends, and the Starleague is a place he must be more than happy to return to.

Despite being an important line-up regular for CJ Entus in Proleague so far, Effort hasn't looked as convincing in this sixth and final round. He's already lost to both Oz and his opponent in this group, sOs. That's not so surprising since Effort's ZvP has always been his weak point in Starcraft II, and losing to Oz and just barely edging out Argo – who hasn't been having the best time himself – doesn't inspire confidence. In a format where Effort could potentially end up having to play sOs twice, he looks to be in a fair bit of trouble in this group.

The other two match-ups are more in his advantage, as he has proven himself to be quite good in ZvT and falls somewhere between 'strong' and 'Soulkey' in ZvZ. Should he end up facing Maru some time in this group, staying alert for cheeses could take him far enough to let his usually stellar ling/bling/muta-play to kick into full effect. As for soO, their match can go either way. It's both ZvZ and best of 1, which means a lot of things can happen that wouldn't normally occur in a best of 3 or more, but the format isn't necessarily an advantage or a disadvantage for the CJ Zerg – if he plays ZvZ like he has in the past (in HotS, albeit prior to the spore patch), soO is an opponent he can certainly take on, probably granting him advancement out of the group.

2. (Z)SKT_soO

Oh soO, you couldn't have asked for a much better group. You get to play a Prime player! Free wins are always nice, right? Jokes aside, this group seems doable for the SKT Zerg. His first opponent is Maru, whom he indirectly smacktalked last season by claiming his entire team was easy, which seems to imply that he's confident enough against Prime's Terrans. In between Fantasy and all the Protoss players on SKT(oss), soO isn't getting too much playing time in Proleague right, but through advancing from the Round of 32 last season (out-ZvZing Curious twice) and getting back into Premier this season, he earns a few bonus points. Although Effort seems like the favorite in a straight-up ZvZ, the format allows soO and his SKT friends to whip up a build good enough to take out the OSL champion, at least in one game.

At first glance, soO may seem like he's outmatched in this group – Effort is one of the better Proleague players in the Zerg mirror, Maru has a tendency to take games of people with well executed cheeses, and sOs... sOS really couldn't have asked for a better format than this. But one key advantage for soO is the fact that he doesn't play much in Proleague. With so few games to prepare for, soO might be one of the few KeSPA players focusing almost all of attention on the individual league. It's always unclear how much the KeSPA players practice, and they will likely want to make it seem as if they always prepare for Proleague to please sponsors, but with what limited information we have on the subject, that's enough to give soO the edge over Effort and Maru.

1. (P)Woongjin_sOs

If there ever was a player made for Best of 1's, that player is sOs. Infamous for his wacky playstyle, sOs has the 4th best Proleague record, behind the macro game playing, win-grinding trifecta that is Flash/Rain/Innovation. Now he has WCS KR semi-final and a Season Finals 2nd place to his name, which achieved through his use of unusual or just completely off-the-wall builds combined with top-notch control. When people say that Protoss is a gimmicky race, we imagine sOs has been the primary contributor to such a perception.

Whether or not the whole ”Best of 1 promotes cheese and gimmicks” is actually a valid point, sOs couldn't be happier about it. He has had extreme success in the Proleague with prepared builds, clever builds and unexpected builds, and the fact that his opponents are expecting it hasn't done anything to stop sOs. He does it all the time, against all kinds of players, and it's helped him get all the way to contention for the ”Best Protoss in the world”-title. He choked against Innovation, playing below his normal level and cracking under the enormous pressure of playing on a huge stage against one of the world's top players, but even in loss he got to show off a bizarre but effective new PvT strategy in Tempest-Templar. There is no reason to believe he has fallen into some kind of slump because of that loss - he may even be stronger for the experience.

His team is already preparing for the Proleague playoffs and the Woongjin coach stated that the guy started practising an additional 2 hours a day before the Season Finals. He got to the finals there, beating players that are much stronger than the ones in this group. Even if he doesn't play to 100% of his abilities, the kind of playstyle sOs utilizes coupled with the format and two players he has beaten fairly recently should be more than enough to ensure that Woongjin Stars has two players in the Round of 16 yet again this season.

sOs > Effort
soO > Maru
sOs > soO
Effort > Maru
soO > Effort

sOs and soO advance.


Group D: Symbol, Trap, Shine, Curious

by: Pigscanfly

Match 1: (Z)Azubu.Symbol vs. (P)STX_Trap

In a group with 3 Zergs, (P)STX_Trap's strong PvZ in HotS should serve him well. He is 8 - 3 in the match-up so far, and has beaten the likes of Sniper, Jaedong, Curious and Effort, the latter two whom he defeated in Challenger League to reach the Premier League. During his Challenger League games, Trap displayed a fondness for stargate openings and proved to be adept at timing attacks (7 gate + 1, phoenix 2 base all-in in game 1 vs. Curious and Immortal gateway all-in off two bases in game 3 against effort). He also showed an impressive late game, playing a back and forth 50 minute game against Effort, although he eventually lost in the end.

His first opponent on the night, (Z)AZUBU_Symbol, has been one of the most consistent players in recent seasons. In his last five GSLs, he has made it to the Ro16 once, the Ro8 twice, the Ro4 once and finals once. His losses have usually come against top players, with his defeats only coming against the the likes of Mvp, Seed (in his championship season), Life and Leenock (in the group stages), INnoVation and RorO. In all these seasons bar his Ro16 exit, he has lost to a player who eventually reached the finals. Despite this, he has managed to go under the radar in comparison to the likes of Zergs like Roro, Life and Soulkey, particularly since his rise coincided with the era of Zerg domination and ZvZzz finals. However, Symbol is still probably one of the top 5 Zergs in Korea and remains the favourite to get out of his group. Yet, nothing is for certain as ZvZ is extremely volatile and many of his recent losses have been against Protoss players, who could very well prove to be his kryptonite in HOTS. He is 2-6 against them, including two 2-0 losses to Hero and sOs in the WCS Season 1 Final that consigned him to a group stage exit.

Match 2: (Z)Samsung_Shine vs. (Z)ST_Curious

The Code S gatekeeper, (Z)ST_Curious, had a breakthrough final WoL season as he made it to the semi-finals before losing to Symbol. However, in the first HoTS season, he seems to have returned to his gatekeeping ways as he was defeated in the Ro32 by SoO and sOs. Curious has shown average ZvZ results in HoTS and is lucky that his first opponent for the night, Shine, has an abysmal HoTS ZvZ record of 0-4. Curious has maintained an impressive 60% winrate in HoTS, nearly identical to the one he had in WoL, proving his extreme consistency.

(Z)KHAN_Shine has defied expectations before in making out of a strong Ro32 group containing Keen, Symbol and Squirtle. However, he is even less likely to make it out this time. Shine’s play, while not particularly impressive, has allowed him to make it to the Premier League again and as such, he cannot be ruled out entirely, particularly given the Bo1 format. However, playing his worst match up first means that he is likely to have to win 2 games in a row against Trap’s strong PvZ or in another ZvZ. Shine is the only player in the group with a negative win loss ratio in HoTS.

Other matches and overall prediction

Fun fact: Both Curious and Symbol were in the top 5 of the KR WoL ELO rankings when they ended, coming in at second and fourth respectively.

Shine should be dead and buried in his group. Yet, he has exceeded expectations before and is experienced with the Bo1 series from his Brood War OSL days. However despite this, I doubt he can manage higher than a third place finish. Symbol is the favourite to make it out of the group. Even if he loses to Trap, he has the superior ZvZ and has beaten both Shine and Curious in recent months, giving him the psychological edge. Symbol has also proved impressively consistent, and I expect his Ro16 streak to continue. The final spot comes down to either Curious or Trap, and given that Trap has already beaten Curious once to get here, I think he will manage to do so again.

Symbol > Trap
Curious > Shine
Symbol > Curious
Trap > Shine
Trap > Curious

Symbol and Trap advance


Writers: Pigscanfly and Zealously
Graphics: Waxangel.
Banner Photos: Silverfire
Editor: Waxangel.
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FrostedMiniWheats
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United States30730 Posts
June 19 2013 22:45 GMT
#2
It'd be sweet if Maru bodied sOo and the group, but I'm afraid sOo isn't exactly wrong in his description of Prime lately >.>;

Shine will slither out of the other group. He's taken over for Sniper as the villain of OSL/Code S
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 19 2013 22:46 GMT
#3
No Bisu or any other real fan favorite, Shine has no reason to succeed.
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ZigguratOfUr
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Iraq16955 Posts
June 19 2013 22:50 GMT
#4
Great article as usual, though it made me feel absurdly OCD for a number of reasons: the prediction format for groups C and D are totally different, Symbol is referred to as both Azubu.Symbol, and AZUBU_Symbol, while Shine is called Samsung_Shine, and KHAN_Shine. While the format differences are fine, please keep the names consistent T_T .
snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
June 19 2013 22:53 GMT
#5
MY MONEY IS ON CURIOUS
I DONT CARE
My religion is Starcraft
MethodSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States928 Posts
June 19 2013 22:55 GMT
#6
Effort pls i beg ;_;
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
June 19 2013 23:03 GMT
#7
While not as star-studded as groups A and B, groups C and B


I think you meant C and D.
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GoodSirTets
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada200 Posts
June 19 2013 23:03 GMT
#8
Symbol make nydus for free gg
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Sumahi
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Guam5609 Posts
June 19 2013 23:04 GMT
#9
Curious has got to advance. I'm still woozy from Life losing over the weekend to Sjow, a win from the Gatekeeper tonight might be the medicine I need.
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Belgium927 Posts
June 19 2013 23:11 GMT
#10
these 2 groups just dont get me very excited
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Canada5973 Posts
June 19 2013 23:13 GMT
#11
Effort, I'm trying up for you, please don't disappoint
Refer to my post.
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United States1716 Posts
June 19 2013 23:26 GMT
#12
Where are these games being played?
I'm going to Korea today and curious if I can watch these games live like GSL.

Anyone know where the studio is? Is it free? Any information?
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Greece2376 Posts
June 19 2013 23:39 GMT
#13
I only care about Maru.I hope he advances.
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 19 2013 23:52 GMT
#14
On June 20 2013 07:46 Zealously wrote:
No Bisu or any other real fan favorite, Shine has no reason to succeed.


He can't just go through a season without pissing SOME people off. He has to make it through to knock someone out in the Ro16.
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United States17671 Posts
June 19 2013 23:59 GMT
#15
I hope Maru beats soO lol
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Canada5973 Posts
June 20 2013 00:02 GMT
#16
On June 20 2013 08:26 Shinta) wrote:
Where are these games being played?
I'm going to Korea today and curious if I can watch these games live like GSL.

Anyone know where the studio is? Is it free? Any information?

The only info I have for you is that it's free
Refer to my post.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 20 2013 00:07 GMT
#17
On June 20 2013 08:26 Shinta) wrote:
Where are these games being played?
I'm going to Korea today and curious if I can watch these games live like GSL.

Anyone know where the studio is? Is it free? Any information?


This is old, but at least the location of the OGN studio is still accurate I believe:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=80483
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
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United States4046 Posts
June 20 2013 00:30 GMT
#18
On June 20 2013 07:46 Zealously wrote:
No Bisu or any other real fan favorite, Shine has no reason to succeed.

Yeah, I'd have to agree with this one. Shine doesn't work for less than fan tears.
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June 20 2013 01:02 GMT
#19
Maru is the last member of Prime still showing signs of life; part of me wants him to advance just for nostalgia's sake
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Germany1754 Posts
June 20 2013 01:07 GMT
#20
underestimating maru and curious.
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United States2073 Posts
June 20 2013 01:11 GMT
#21
Effort and Maru gogogo
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June 20 2013 01:14 GMT
#22
On June 20 2013 09:07 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 08:26 Shinta) wrote:
Where are these games being played?
I'm going to Korea today and curious if I can watch these games live like GSL.

Anyone know where the studio is? Is it free? Any information?


This is old, but at least the location of the OGN studio is still accurate I believe:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=80483


Some information may not be applicable, but the directions are correct to the OGN Yongsan E-Sports Stadium. Cheers, and thanks for the link! See you there tonight? maybe? =]
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50119 Posts
June 20 2013 01:45 GMT
#23
GRAPHICS: WAXANGEL


no wonder...
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 20 2013 01:46 GMT
#24
psch maru ezpz
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United States13974 Posts
June 20 2013 01:55 GMT
#25
sOs Fighting!!!!
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Chile138 Posts
June 20 2013 01:56 GMT
#26
I just want a Maru vs EffOrt rematch like this
What, you run out of marines?
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United States157 Posts
June 20 2013 02:04 GMT
#27
I always get Soo and SoS confused...
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Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States8275 Posts
June 20 2013 02:22 GMT
#28
On June 20 2013 07:46 Zealously wrote:
No Bisu or any other real fan favorite, Shine has no reason to succeed.


Put Bisu in the audience. Shine magically has 10-20 more roach/hydras than his opponent while still somehow banking 1k minerals/gas.
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Australia3820 Posts
June 20 2013 02:49 GMT
#29
Lez go, sOs!
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44119 Posts
June 20 2013 03:03 GMT
#30
Group C

sOs and maru

Group D

Curious is good do not underestimate him and Symbol well he can take out games against innovation i say hes good
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44119 Posts
June 20 2013 03:08 GMT
#31
On June 20 2013 10:56 BulletCL wrote:
I just want a Maru vs EffOrt rematch like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-_2kjicW6o



dafuq did i just see o.O
this is a quote
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
June 20 2013 03:19 GMT
#32
On June 20 2013 10:07 Greenei wrote:
underestimating maru and curious.

We've already seen how mediocre ESF'ers do against proleague players. It's tough to underestimate them.
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asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
June 20 2013 03:21 GMT
#33
LOLOL UNDERESTIMATING THE CRAP OUT OF MARU he's prime's ace now(said by marineking)... if that means anything
rip prime
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Korea (South)9172 Posts
June 20 2013 03:33 GMT
#34
On June 20 2013 12:21 asdfOu wrote:
LOLOL UNDERESTIMATING THE CRAP OUT OF MARU he's prime's ace now(said by marineking)... if that means anything

not really, Tassadar's an ace too
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 20 2013 03:41 GMT
#35
Maru's TvZ has looked good lately. I think he has a shot of making it out 2nd behind sOs.
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Profile Joined July 2008
United States3455 Posts
June 20 2013 03:43 GMT
#36
Lets go sOs and soO!
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Ivory Coast3016 Posts
June 20 2013 03:43 GMT
#37
i pick shine to advance and ruin everyone's liquibets, since that's what he does
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Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33367 Posts
June 20 2013 04:14 GMT
#38
On June 20 2013 12:33 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 12:21 asdfOu wrote:
LOLOL UNDERESTIMATING THE CRAP OUT OF MARU he's prime's ace now(said by marineking)... if that means anything

not really, Tassadar's an ace too


too harsh
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Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
June 20 2013 04:41 GMT
#39
On June 20 2013 13:14 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 12:33 Scarecrow wrote:
On June 20 2013 12:21 asdfOu wrote:
LOLOL UNDERESTIMATING THE CRAP OUT OF MARU he's prime's ace now(said by marineking)... if that means anything

not really, Tassadar's an ace too


too harsh


Maybe he'll invent the next big 2 base all-in, give him a chance :o.
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
June 20 2013 06:22 GMT
#40
I like him but I think soO will end last of this group. Not too sure for sOs, as he's had some disappointing games since the WCS global finals, but in a normal day he should have this. Second place should be for Maru, unless Effort takes it.
Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-20 07:07:23
June 20 2013 06:42 GMT
#41
On June 20 2013 07:38 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:

Oh, and don't forget soO unforgettable comment "They just seem so easy, the Prime team"

I'm not sold on soO getting out of his group but I have to admit the guy's a prophet, as that comment came right before Prime's once-esteemed players completely fell apart.

Group C: I think soO is more likely to end up last than 2nd. Effort has continued to look solid if unspectacular in all matchups, but the guy's an OSL champion and this is his home turf. Maru has looked surprisingly solid lately but not enough to escape this group. sOs the king of builds should prevail with a max 3 games to play. sOs + Effort.

Group D: Really tough to call, I think pretty much any permutation is possible especially in a bunch of bo1 zvz's. Even Symbol could go down as zvz is his weakest link. I don't see why Shine couldn't "one shot, one kill" his way to the ro16...he did it last season. Curious looks like he could be revived after his M-House Cup win, perhaps he will resume his rightful duties as gatekeeper. And Trap not only has to prepare for just one matchup, it's by far his best one. On the downside, his first match is with Symbol. All told, though it's marginal, I would still bet on the best players in this group: Symbol + Trap.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
June 20 2013 06:47 GMT
#42
rooting for curious! trap, gtfo
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Australia54784 Posts
June 20 2013 06:47 GMT
#43
On June 20 2013 15:42 Evil_Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 07:38 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:

Oh, and don't forget soO unforgettable comment "They just seem so easy, the Prime team"

I'm not sold on soO getting out of his group but I have to admit the guy's a prophet, as that comment came right before Prime's once-esteemed players completely fell apart.

i believe it was well after, prime has been horrible since hots
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Last Edited: 2013-06-20 07:13:08
June 20 2013 07:09 GMT
#44
On June 20 2013 15:42 Evil_Sheep wrote:
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On June 20 2013 07:38 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:

Oh, and don't forget soO unforgettable comment "They just seem so easy, the Prime team"

I'm not sold on soO getting out of his group but I have to admit the guy's a prophet, as that comment came right before Prime's once-esteemed players completely fell apart.

Group C: I think soO is more likely to end up last than 2nd. Effort has continued to look solid if unspectacular in all matchups, but the guy's an OSL champion and this is his home turf. Maru has looked surprisingly solid lately but not enough to escape this group. sOs the king of builds should prevail with a max 3 games to play. sOs + Effort.

Group D: Really tough to call, I think pretty much any permutation is possible especially in a bunch of bo1 zvz's. Even Symbol could go down as zvz is his weakest link. I don't see why Shine couldn't "one shot, one kill" his way to the ro16...he did it last season. Curious looks like he could be revived after his M-House Cup win, perhaps he will resume his rightful duties as gatekeeper. And Trap not only has to prepare for just one matchup, it's by far his best one. On the downside, his first match is with Symbol. All told, though it's marginal, I would still bet on the best players in this group: Symbol + Trap.

did you watch prime vs mvp? honestly though. maru's vZ is pretty damn scary if you ask me. he's probably not gonna beat sHy, since prime has a curse against protoss apprently, but 2 zergs? i think so.
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Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
June 20 2013 07:28 GMT
#45
I have to wonder what Trap is really capable of. From STX I think both Dear and Classic (since he switched) had a better track record of winning important matches. Anyone can correct me if I'm mistaken in this notion?
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Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
June 20 2013 07:43 GMT
#46
Lol, Shine is the upset man.
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Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-20 08:24:23
June 20 2013 08:17 GMT
#47
On June 20 2013 16:09 asdfOu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 15:42 Evil_Sheep wrote:
On June 20 2013 07:38 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:

Oh, and don't forget soO unforgettable comment "They just seem so easy, the Prime team"

I'm not sold on soO getting out of his group but I have to admit the guy's a prophet, as that comment came right before Prime's once-esteemed players completely fell apart.

Group C: I think soO is more likely to end up last than 2nd. Effort has continued to look solid if unspectacular in all matchups, but the guy's an OSL champion and this is his home turf. Maru has looked surprisingly solid lately but not enough to escape this group. sOs the king of builds should prevail with a max 3 games to play. sOs + Effort.

Group D: Really tough to call, I think pretty much any permutation is possible especially in a bunch of bo1 zvz's. Even Symbol could go down as zvz is his weakest link. I don't see why Shine couldn't "one shot, one kill" his way to the ro16...he did it last season. Curious looks like he could be revived after his M-House Cup win, perhaps he will resume his rightful duties as gatekeeper. And Trap not only has to prepare for just one matchup, it's by far his best one. On the downside, his first match is with Symbol. All told, though it's marginal, I would still bet on the best players in this group: Symbol + Trap.

did you watch prime vs mvp? honestly though. maru's vZ is pretty damn scary if you ask me. he's probably not gonna beat sHy, since prime has a curse against protoss apprently, but 2 zergs? i think so.

Yeah I did watch it. As far as I could see, there was one lonely boy sitting by himself on the Prime bench facing 10 or so MVP members yet he almost took them down singlehandedly. But though Maru looked very competent, I wouldn't say scary. I think his tvz is close to Effort, but I think Effort's "home advantage," pedigree, and bo1 experience should see him through. But I wouldn't rule out Maru.

On June 20 2013 15:47 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 15:42 Evil_Sheep wrote:
On June 20 2013 07:38 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:

Oh, and don't forget soO unforgettable comment "They just seem so easy, the Prime team"

I'm not sold on soO getting out of his group but I have to admit the guy's a prophet, as that comment came right before Prime's once-esteemed players completely fell apart.

i believe it was well after, prime has been horrible since hots

I think when he said that Prime was starting to slump but it wasn't clear how long or serious it would become.
Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
June 20 2013 08:22 GMT
#48
Maru gonna easily take this group

Maru>SoO
sOs>Effort
Maru>sOs
Effort>SoO
sOs>Effort

Not even close!
scr
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1025 Posts
June 20 2013 08:36 GMT
#49
Maru will top that group i'd say. Maybe 2nd after sOs
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 20 2013 10:00 GMT
#50
Maru hwaiting :3
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