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chukolna
Profile Joined February 2010
78 Posts
December 07 2012 01:34 GMT
#81
if the "unholy alliance" is in top 3 this season ( which will be the easiest for them to actually do something ) i will be surprised
Grow up Raj, there's no place for truth on the Internet.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
December 07 2012 01:35 GMT
#82
Woot, Woongjin Stars to rule the season!
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
2BearqLoza
Profile Joined December 2007
134 Posts
December 07 2012 01:36 GMT
#83
On December 07 2012 08:50 Pokebunny wrote:
Damn, foreign teams ranked #1 in the biggest korean league in the world... would be amazing if it actually unfolded that way.


Except that "foreign team" will not use foreign player all that much.
And of course "biggest korean league in the world" minus (almost) all the best koreans.
CosmicHippo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States547 Posts
December 07 2012 01:43 GMT
#84
Man...this is exciting! cant wait to watch!
Yeah i've got your zerg riiiight here! *gulps beer*
MetalPanda
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1152 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 01:44:37
December 07 2012 01:43 GMT
#85
Their korean line-up is by far strong enough to take down any team, especially in all-kill rounds, Stephano is just icing on the cake (and one of the three best players in the team), Jaedong and Sea also could become really good and they're showing potential I think.
althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
December 07 2012 01:50 GMT
#86
On December 07 2012 10:36 2BearqLoza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 08:50 Pokebunny wrote:
Damn, foreign teams ranked #1 in the biggest korean league in the world... would be amazing if it actually unfolded that way.


Except that "foreign team" will not use foreign player all that much.
And of course "biggest korean league in the world" minus (almost) all the best koreans.

Minus a lot of the top Koreans, but they do have the best Protoss and the best Terran and one of the best Zergs in Stephano.

Super-pumped for this, but to be honest I'll only watch it if there's an English stream (live for preference, I'm in Australia so time-zone is good for me). I've been spoiled by GSL, so quality english commentary is pretty much a must.

Worst-case scenario I'd be pretty happy if they just sent all the replays to somebody like Husky (although better would be getting Apollo + somebody to cast them). I'd prefer delayed commentary to bad commentary.
The first rule we don't talk about race conditions. of race conditions is
T.O.P
Profile Joined December 2012
469 Posts
December 07 2012 01:56 GMT
#87
Go SK Telecom T1!!! Fighting!
I'm not the real T.O.P just a fan!
CloudMage
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada221 Posts
December 07 2012 01:57 GMT
#88
The rest of the KT team shouldn't effect the rank since Flash will just all-kill every other team ;P
HuK <3 WhiteRa <3 Grubby <3 TLO <3 Day[9] <3
Aando
Profile Joined August 2011
1304 Posts
December 07 2012 02:01 GMT
#89
Will they change game in-between the rounds or will they play wol during the whole league? I mean, it will probably hard to get it hyped up if it's wol games 3 months after hots was released.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
December 07 2012 02:03 GMT
#90
On December 07 2012 10:34 chukolna wrote:
if the "unholy alliance" is in top 3 this season ( which will be the easiest for them to actually do something ) i will be surprised


On paper they're legit. So it all depends on if they can get it together when it's crunch time.

Taeja should be the best Terran in Proleague. Stephano is a question mark, but the few times he's played in Gom events he's more than held his own (even if you think they were screwing around a bit last wknd he still made them earn the win; which is more than anyone else on the World Team can say).

I think Hero and JYP are above average as far as Proleague Protosses are concerned too (Hero being a contender for 2nd best behind Rain).

So like the power ranking says; a strong core.... on paper.

Coaching could trip them up; do we even know who it's going to be? Preparation will be another big hurdle for them, since the Proleague map pool is very different from GSL / MLG / IPL / Ladder with half the map being Kespa maps.

Especially with travel they may just end up falling behind when it comes to playing on those maps. But again that'll depend no the quality of their coaching (and practice regime too).

Also, they still have the problem eSF players had at the WCG prelims - lots of information available for opponents; little information about opponents.
rice_devOurer
Profile Joined July 2012
United States773 Posts
December 07 2012 02:08 GMT
#91
On December 07 2012 10:57 CloudMage wrote:
The rest of the KT team shouldn't effect the rank since Flash will just all-kill every other team ;P

...this round is NOT all-kill format.
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G.K.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States105 Posts
December 07 2012 02:10 GMT
#92
STX should be in top 4 imo. They have so many young progamers with potential xD I can easily see STX doing better than WJS ( and maybe Samsung Khan)
Hearthstone // LoL
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
December 07 2012 02:10 GMT
#93
On December 07 2012 10:50 althaz wrote:
Minus a lot of the top Koreans, but they do have the best Protoss and the best Terran
They have MC and Mvp? (j/k)
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
GeneralSnoop
Profile Joined February 2011
United States142 Posts
December 07 2012 02:10 GMT
#94
On December 07 2012 10:57 CloudMage wrote:
The rest of the KT team shouldn't effect the rank since Flash will just all-kill every other team ;P


Proleague isn't a winners league format like GSTL, so one player can only do so much. I like proleague style better though i think, especially for fantasy (not the SKT terran). The fantasy league for GSTL was to dependant on getting a couple super good players and the other didn't really matter as much. This format gets rid of the proverbial "I have DongRaeGu, and therefore I am better than you since you don't have DongRaeGu".
"I could probably live in trees" - LiquidJinro
elagrion
Profile Joined April 2010
Ukraine422 Posts
December 07 2012 02:19 GMT
#95
Golden Wings or Chemical Brotherhood to win.
Unholy Alliance to runner-ups.
Sponsorless Squad to make it to playoffs and find sponsor.
Everything is a remix.
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
December 07 2012 02:21 GMT
#96
Bisu please retire and go dominate SSL. BW was made for you and your unbelievable talent. Always rooting for you though
Jaedong.
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
December 07 2012 02:25 GMT
#97
Also hoping Baby gets traded to a better team. The kid deserves it. Hes SO good.
Jaedong.
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
December 07 2012 02:28 GMT
#98
NERD CHILSSSSSSSSSSSS WITH UNHOLY ALIANCE IN FIRST OMFG
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
December 07 2012 02:35 GMT
#99
PL is going to be vicious, I am looking forward to a bit more KeSPA face time for players. I am woefully ill equipped to do some of this fantasy stuff. I am glad to see the unholy alliance in number one, I think that depth will be the biggest issue facing the other PL teams.
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
December 07 2012 02:36 GMT
#100
Nooo the Unholy Alliance is now CURSED by Fionn T-T And he even attempt to reverse CURSE KT too (He's a KT fan).
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
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