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Vandrad
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany951 Posts
August 23 2012 14:18 GMT
#41
Lets see if Stephanos training in korea paid off ...

Besides that I really like the new group system of MLG
And who are you, the proud lord said, that I must bow so low?
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 14:57:51
August 23 2012 14:28 GMT
#42
Great article, nice writing and interesting insight, but there's one point missing. Stephano simply didn't play very well the whole tournament. Dubious macro, many (more than usual^^) supply-blocks and wrong decisions seemed to be the name of the game. I think the Metropolis-game is a great example.

Oz gets an early advantage by blocking S's expansion and Stephano follows it up by neglecting to scout the entire map (like we usually see him do), which allows Oz to plant a pylon north of S's fifth. However, an overlord-scout spots the gates and the twilight council in Oz's base and S knows exactly what is coming. From there it is his game to loose. But he messes up - he runs slow roaches and splings halfway across the map towards ozs natural, turns around when he realizes that the natural is undefended (meaning that Ozs army is on the map), finally detects that Oz has moved to S's fourth and then very indecisively moves a handful of roaches back and fourth towards a group of stalkers positioned north of S's fifth base. His roaches are eventually caught in a pincer-move between the two forces of Oz, while the rest of the army is idling by the rocks connecting S's third and fourth. From that point on the rest of the game is something close to a formality. Not a great game from S by any measure. More decisiveness could have led to an attack on the unprotected natural of Oz or to an attack with the roaches on either small force of Ozs army. It would have either drawn a million forcefields, which would have made the following attack from Oz much less potent, or it would have pushed and killed the few stalkers, possibly even taken out the pylon to the north of S's fifth.

That is not to take anything away from Oz, who clearly outplayed Stephano on the occasion, but it is part of the picture. Another is, of course, that while Oz knew about Stephanos play, Stephano didn't know about Oz's.

It'll be interesting to see if Stephano has gotten back in shape while in Korea (from the improvement visible while watching his stream from the TSL-house, it seems so) and also, if he can break the P dominance in the PvZ-matchup that we're seeing in Korea at the moment. Despite the mellow reception of the list of participants, I think this will be a great tournament.

Game on!
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
August 23 2012 14:30 GMT
#43
Wow, this one was a great read.
Both in terms of writing and game knowledge, thank you treehugger
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
August 23 2012 15:13 GMT
#44
Good stuff writers ...Best sc2 tourney related stuff I have read in a while. It also got me hyped up (never watched their first series, will soon tho).
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Ollie
Profile Joined October 2011
United States144 Posts
August 23 2012 15:29 GMT
#45
An article on my favorite player? You're too kind, TL.

Nice to see Oz getting the recognition he deserves, but I wish he could be a bit more consistent.
Oz | HerO | Creator | Stork | DRG | Soulkey | Jaedong | Sniper | Byun | TaeJa | Fantasy
Snijjer
Profile Joined September 2011
United States989 Posts
August 23 2012 15:59 GMT
#46
Great article on Stephano

Seriously though I hope to read more of these kind of well written articles on here.
paddyz
Profile Joined May 2011
Ireland628 Posts
August 23 2012 16:03 GMT
#47
I still think it boils down to stephano "solved" protoss so he takes a safe quick 3rd when toss forge FE, gets up a few more workers then them because he can make them faster. Then makes mass roach ling to either defend his economic advantage or deny a quick protoss 3rd depending on what the toss decides to do.
He check for the 3rd and 4th gas for toss at 6 minutes to see if its a 6 gate or something and then just stops the drone phase for units phase slightly faster and gets ling speed if the gases were not taken. If they were he just goes for lair and does his usual thing.
Then yes if he cant keep his 3rd or if he cant deny the toss 3rd he techs to infestors and then broodlords. Thats practically what I see everytime.

I don't think Protoss have a "hard counter" to this as such but Oz just outsmarted and outplayed Stephano. If they meet again I really doubt that Stephano will come out with something brilliant and innovative that redefines starcraft2 as we know it. If he wins it will probably because Oz didn't play well enough vs stephano vs P. Or because Oz once again felt that he had to come up with something brilliant again just to win a PvZ and he did not consider some little detail.

Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
August 23 2012 16:22 GMT
#48
I'm hoping for another stephano - polt rivalry, where they both win/lose against each other multiple times. It's awesome to see.
Nice read btw, well written!
RolleMcKnolle
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany1054 Posts
August 23 2012 16:22 GMT
#49
great article, it's always nice to hear some strategical analysis
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
August 23 2012 16:45 GMT
#50
Wasn't quite the article I was expecting upon opening this, buy I enjoyed it nonetheless ^^
Was a really impressive series to watch for sure
snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
August 23 2012 16:48 GMT
#51
On August 23 2012 19:12 tree.hugger wrote:
... Stephano and Oz are destined to meet again. Probably because they're in the same group.


lol.
My religion is Starcraft
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
August 23 2012 16:52 GMT
#52
The [rewatch the series] link isn't working for me ...not a bad link, just MLG video player I guess boo.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
August 23 2012 16:52 GMT
#53
On August 23 2012 20:52 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 20:49 Bumblebee wrote:
On August 23 2012 19:55 Noam wrote:
On August 23 2012 19:28 bittman wrote:
Does each writer get an article like this?

I mean, I really like the article. It would be so great if a big tournament was hyped with a strong piece by a few writers leading up to it.

What I'm saying, as always, is: I <3 articles =P

I am not part of the writing staff so I don't know how they work exactly, but I can tell you that StarCraft is our passion and we naturally put more time into the tournaments and players we are most passionate about.

So I guess as readers, we just need to give positive feedback and reinforcements to our writers, so we can see more awesome articles like this one

This is false. Treehugger only likes Snute. No one else matters to him.


truth

Liquid' Snute?

Good write-up btw
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
August 23 2012 16:53 GMT
#54
great write-up!
"Because I am BossToss" -MC ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ I'm sure that all of my fellow class mates viewed me as the Adonis of the Class of 2015 already. -Xenocider, EG, ieF 2013 Champion.
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
August 23 2012 17:04 GMT
#55
Fantastic! I really love this preview as a look at two premier players going head to head. Also, I do not believe that Stephano only plays the one style (although I think you identified his overarching trends correctly), and like you I believe that he will be able to overcome the box Oz put him in last tournament. Even with some of the less well known and less popular people now being brought into the group stage by not having the KESPA players, I think this is going to be a fantastic tournament.
Chr15t
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1103 Posts
August 23 2012 17:08 GMT
#56
On August 23 2012 20:52 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 20:49 Bumblebee wrote:
On August 23 2012 19:55 Noam wrote:
On August 23 2012 19:28 bittman wrote:
Does each writer get an article like this?

I mean, I really like the article. It would be so great if a big tournament was hyped with a strong piece by a few writers leading up to it.

What I'm saying, as always, is: I <3 articles =P

I am not part of the writing staff so I don't know how they work exactly, but I can tell you that StarCraft is our passion and we naturally put more time into the tournaments and players we are most passionate about.

So I guess as readers, we just need to give positive feedback and reinforcements to our writers, so we can see more awesome articles like this one

This is false. Treehugger only likes Snute. No one else matters to him.


truth


Oh hi Wax, how is the recap of IEM going along? ;D
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
August 23 2012 17:12 GMT
#57
Amazing article , the best I've read in a while! I have to agree with all obsversation , but couldn't have find them myself. It's not only what is said but also how it's said which is amazing.
Such an amazing work!
Please do more of this
It's good to be back
Jaeger
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1150 Posts
August 23 2012 17:38 GMT
#58
Great article. Took me a minute to remember the Oz Stephano series then it all came back in a rush.
https://www.dotabuff.com/players/8137911
VictorJones
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States235 Posts
August 23 2012 18:01 GMT
#59
Great read. The master analogy was inspired
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 18:29:28
August 23 2012 18:29 GMT
#60
Awesome write-up. Keep making stuff like this! ^^
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