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On August 18 2012 04:48 RageBot wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2012 00:21 andrewlt wrote:On August 17 2012 21:21 sinigang wrote:
Maybe it's just me, but KeSPA players look more fit overall?? I mean, TBH, a good number of GSL pros look like fat nerds with stubby noses holding their handkerchiefs for their sweaty palms...
Does KeSPA have a better fitness regimen? Sound body sound mind sort of thing? That's why many KeSPA players have fangirls. GOM has been a sausagefest so far. No, KeSPA players have fangirls for the same reason Justin Bieber has fangirls, they are way more famous, they were on primetime TV for a long time, and the very best are also in commercials and so on (Jaedong shoes commercial for example), the only GOM player who has fangirls is MKP, and that's not because of his gameplay right now, but because of the character he's showing.
Yea this, I donno why everyone is so mean in this thread lol Gumiho uses a handkerchief/towel because he has overly sweaty palms, its a medical condition not based on his weight. The elephantometer is making me feel ill, I thought players like Gumiho and Genius would be able to hold down the GOM fort but their losses show that kespa players are no joke. Dont get me wrong I like a lot of kespa players and want them to become mainstays in sc2 (please, fantasy, please) but I dont want them to do so at the expense of the GOM players ive come to love. Hopefully they can coexist at the top level of sc2.
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On August 17 2012 18:29 Squeegy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2012 15:21 letian wrote:On August 17 2012 13:29 6BiT wrote:
everyone looks at things in a different way... elephant stomping around.. I dont think so :S
Effort beating was an upset I agree, but Gumiho has never really been mr consistent. One series he can be brilliant, next series... not so much. His win over DongRaeGu was a bigger deal, yes drg is in a slump etc etc, but overall he is a much more consistent player.
Jaedong is a brilliant player, and him beating Genius is wonderful for him. But... you have one of the best BW progamers of all time beating perhaps the laziest player in the GSL in a single best of 3 series.
I myself can't wait to see what they can do in the future of sc2 and the expansions. It certainly has me a little excited to say the least.
But there is no elephant in the room, they haven't even made it through the front door. In the winners bracket with the exception of Roro and Reality they got their asses handed to them, they got rolled. Lets not forget that lol.
GSL prelims should be interesting though, if some of the Kespa players can get through will be interesting to see how they go in Code A. We will be able to see then, how much they have progressed. Why should I give a fuck about elephant, when I already see the the progress of the BW guys made recently? Is the elephant theory is more important than actual results? So why do such posts keep appearing and what do they prove? Don't embarrass yourself please. Yeah, this. At first it was that they can't beat GSL players, then they did. Then it was they can't beat good GSL players, then they did. Then the real test was to be facing guys like DRG, Leenock and Gumiho, then they lost too. But now suddenly that wasn't the test either, now it's how well they'll do in code A qualifiers. I'm guessing the only way for Kespa to win over this guys is to absolutely trash GSL. If they don't, then I guarantee you the next Kespa player to lose, will get comments like "I told you so". And that is all missing the entire point. Kespa is already very competetive with GSL. Not better, just competetive. And considering the time-frame and that they still play some BW, it is highly, highly impressive.
This... Thank you o-0. the fact that kespa players are even competing with GSL players after only a few months is incredible by itself, yet somehow the bar of people's kespa expectations keeps getting higher with ever kespa victory. The fact that any kespa players remain at all is impressive, let alone beating the likes of DRG and Genius.
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On August 18 2012 04:48 RageBot wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2012 00:21 andrewlt wrote:On August 17 2012 21:21 sinigang wrote:
Maybe it's just me, but KeSPA players look more fit overall?? I mean, TBH, a good number of GSL pros look like fat nerds with stubby noses holding their handkerchiefs for their sweaty palms...
Does KeSPA have a better fitness regimen? Sound body sound mind sort of thing? That's why many KeSPA players have fangirls. GOM has been a sausagefest so far. No, KeSPA players have fangirls for the same reason Justin Bieber has fangirls, they are way more famous, they were on primetime TV for a long time, and the very best are also in commercials and so on (Jaedong shoes commercial for example), the only GOM player who has fangirls is MKP, and that's not because of his gameplay right now, but because of the character he's showing.
Back when TOP was in GSL there used to be a decent sized group of fan girls who came to see him (I believe they were from his high school). It's not really the same, but yeah I think it's just the extra exposure that players like Jaedong have that really makes them more popular.
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Kespa making killings... Heart of the Swarm on the horizon... 2013 will be a very exciting year for Starcraft 2
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On August 18 2012 05:23 JuiceBoxHero wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2012 04:48 RageBot wrote:On August 18 2012 00:21 andrewlt wrote:On August 17 2012 21:21 sinigang wrote:
Maybe it's just me, but KeSPA players look more fit overall?? I mean, TBH, a good number of GSL pros look like fat nerds with stubby noses holding their handkerchiefs for their sweaty palms...
Does KeSPA have a better fitness regimen? Sound body sound mind sort of thing? That's why many KeSPA players have fangirls. GOM has been a sausagefest so far. No, KeSPA players have fangirls for the same reason Justin Bieber has fangirls, they are way more famous, they were on primetime TV for a long time, and the very best are also in commercials and so on (Jaedong shoes commercial for example), the only GOM player who has fangirls is MKP, and that's not because of his gameplay right now, but because of the character he's showing. Yea this, I donno why everyone is so mean in this thread lol Gumiho uses a handkerchief/towel because he has overly sweaty palms, its a medical condition not based on his weight. The elephantometer is making me feel ill, I thought players like Gumiho and Genius would be able to hold down the GOM fort but their losses show that kespa players are no joke. Dont get me wrong I like a lot of kespa players and want them to become mainstays in sc2 (please, fantasy, please) but I dont want them to do so at the expense of the GOM players ive come to love. Hopefully they can coexist at the top level of sc2.
I understand such medical condition can usually be solved by psychological and physical fitness, so I guess KeSPA is indeed managing those things better. Anyway that's just my observation.
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On August 17 2012 12:27 Mataza wrote:
I thought the Elephant was about total domination if/once the bw pros switch over. May still happen, but "oh, some of Kespa are better than some of GOM" doesn´t have any impact on me.
Looks like a pretty even playing field right now to me.
But yeah, it´s pretty exciting how things will look once the bag has been shaken and the dust settles.
Then your understanding is severely misconstrued. How would that make any sense when most of the Kespa players have only been at sc2 full time for about a month(depending on their placing in pro league as a team)?
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On August 18 2012 09:49 dieselnerd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2012 12:27 Mataza wrote:
I thought the Elephant was about total domination if/once the bw pros switch over. May still happen, but "oh, some of Kespa are better than some of GOM" doesn´t have any impact on me.
Looks like a pretty even playing field right now to me.
But yeah, it´s pretty exciting how things will look once the bag has been shaken and the dust settles. Then your understanding is severely misconstrued. How would that make any sense when most of the Kespa players have only been at sc2 full time for about a month(depending on their placing in pro league as a team)?
A lot of my kind are in denial, bro. I used to be a hardcore GSL supporter but I am a believer in the Elephant given the recent results. I pretty much stopped watching pure GSL games because I *personally* believe that they really are a farce. The level is just different. Started catching up to KeSPA ProLeague as well... Here's hoping for some KeSPA / BW community love 
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On August 18 2012 09:49 dieselnerd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2012 12:27 Mataza wrote:
I thought the Elephant was about total domination if/once the bw pros switch over. May still happen, but "oh, some of Kespa are better than some of GOM" doesn´t have any impact on me.
Looks like a pretty even playing field right now to me.
But yeah, it´s pretty exciting how things will look once the bag has been shaken and the dust settles. Then your understanding is severely misconstrued. How would that make any sense when most of the Kespa players have only been at sc2 full time for about a month(depending on their placing in pro league as a team)?
i agree with diesel, those guys have been playing for a dozen of weeks only, still have to play their main game bw and they are compettiive amongst GSL players already? dafuq? after 6months, i tell you almost all GSL players can go home. Come HotS, even more.
The article with the elephant in the room was at the VERY begining of sc2. yes if tehy switched over after some months that SC2 was relased, they woulda destroy everybody. can't expect that after 2 fucking years man -.-
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