• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 00:39
CET 06:39
KST 14:39
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2
Community News
BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion6Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)16Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 105
StarCraft 2
General
Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets When will we find out if there are more tournament SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list?
Tourneys
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC2 AI Tournament 2026 $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone
Brood War
General
Video Footage from 2005: The Birth of G2 in Spain [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2509 users

[WCS KR] Losers R2 D1 Recap/D2 Preview - Page 2

Forum Index > News
67 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 03:49:32
August 17 2012 02:17 GMT
#21
wax still sour that LITERALLY HUNDREDS of bw pros arent dominating so he has to get his dong fix somewhere



previously on TL writes about elephants...


but Effort has now beaten two of the best players GomTV hard to offer in consecutive series. His win against DongRaeGu


However, he's (DRG) presently crashing and burning in one of the most epic free falls we've ever seen from a progamer



you guyyyysss....
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 17 2012 02:20 GMT
#22
Either Rain or Soulkey is probably going to pull an upset. The question is... which one?
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 17 2012 02:23 GMT
#23
On August 17 2012 11:20 BrokenMirage wrote:
Either Rain or Soulkey is probably going to pull an upset. The question is... which one?


What if both of them win? That would certainly be surprising...
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Cink
Profile Joined April 2010
United States93 Posts
August 17 2012 02:31 GMT
#24
Effort and Jaedong hwaiting!!!
Samsung KHAN| Stork4Lyfe
Cink
Profile Joined April 2010
United States93 Posts
August 17 2012 02:34 GMT
#25
On August 17 2012 11:20 BrokenMirage wrote:
Either Rain or Soulkey is probably going to pull an upset. The question is... which one?

I want to say rain has the better chance, but...Soulkey is Soulkey...the guy does the impossible when I least expect it, by either impressing or disappointing.
Samsung KHAN| Stork4Lyfe
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
August 17 2012 02:34 GMT
#26
I remember when I told everyone (with other people doing it too, but we seemed like the minority) that when that elephant comes into the room, it won't be like the kinda burnt out ForGG or nearly retired Boxer/Nada/July but when the actual A Team KeSPA players come over, motherfuckers watch out because they're here to rape everyone.
FoTG fighting!
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
August 17 2012 02:42 GMT
#27
I won't be able to watch the games.T_T
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
August 17 2012 02:55 GMT
#28
Come on, Soulkey and By.Sun. I won't doubt anymore.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 03:03:59
August 17 2012 03:03 GMT
#29
Damn, the BW players are wrecking shit up. Their world torn from them by the greed of OGN, MBC, and Kespa, and here they are in a brave new world and taking command. *manly tear*
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
August 17 2012 03:27 GMT
#30
I thought the Elephant was about total domination if/once the bw pros switch over. May still happen, but "oh, some of Kespa are better than some of GOM" doesn´t have any impact on me.
Looks like a pretty even playing field right now to me.

But yeah, it´s pretty exciting how things will look once the bag has been shaken and the dust settles.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
August 17 2012 03:29 GMT
#31
soulkey > Hero. Sorry TL.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
August 17 2012 03:54 GMT
#32
On August 17 2012 11:34 Cink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 11:20 BrokenMirage wrote:
Either Rain or Soulkey is probably going to pull an upset. The question is... which one?

I want to say rain has the better chance, but...Soulkey is Soulkey...the guy does the impossible when I least expect it, by either impressing or disappointing.


Rain definitely has the worst chance. He didn't look terribly impressive in the PvZ against horror and horror was in fact in an advantageous position a number of times in game 3 but never did anything about it.

I think Soulkey has more of a chance. It may be Hero PvZ, but it's soulkey. If it's going to go 1-1 I think it will be double zerg as opposed to double toss.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
August 17 2012 04:13 GMT
#33
On August 17 2012 11:34 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
I remember when I told everyone (with other people doing it too, but we seemed like the minority) that when that elephant comes into the room, it won't be like the kinda burnt out ForGG or nearly retired Boxer/Nada/July but when the actual A Team KeSPA players come over, motherfuckers watch out because they're here to rape everyone.


Exactly what I was thinking and seeing everyone doubt me was funny.
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 04:17:27
August 17 2012 04:16 GMT
#34
Please stop denying these events mean something. The Elephant article was talking about immediate switching. Also, GOM SC2 players are almost all former Kespa b-teamers. So it's basically the better elephants coming up to speed and passing the lesser elephants. But they're all elephants.
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
August 17 2012 04:27 GMT
#35
Not even my SC2 Zerg hate can stop me from being happy for Jaedong.
6BiT
Profile Joined December 2011
513 Posts
August 17 2012 04:29 GMT
#36
everyone looks at things in a different way... elephant stomping around.. I dont think so :S

Effort beating was an upset I agree, but Gumiho has never really been mr consistent. One series he can be brilliant, next series... not so much. His win over DongRaeGu was a bigger deal, yes drg is in a slump etc etc, but overall he is a much more consistent player.

Jaedong is a brilliant player, and him beating Genius is wonderful for him. But... you have one of the best BW progamers of all time beating perhaps the laziest player in the GSL in a single best of 3 series.

I myself can't wait to see what they can do in the future of sc2 and the expansions. It certainly has me a little excited to say the least.

But there is no elephant in the room, they haven't even made it through the front door. In the winners bracket with the exception of Roro and Reality they got their asses handed to them, they got rolled. Lets not forget that lol.


GSL prelims should be interesting though, if some of the Kespa players can get through will be interesting to see how they go in Code A. We will be able to see then, how much they have progressed.
stuff & things
chisuri
Profile Joined January 2010
Vietnam789 Posts
August 17 2012 04:40 GMT
#37
On August 17 2012 13:29 6BiT wrote:
everyone looks at things in a different way... elephant stomping around.. I dont think so :S

Effort beating was an upset I agree, but Gumiho has never really been mr consistent. One series he can be brilliant, next series... not so much. His win over DongRaeGu was a bigger deal, yes drg is in a slump etc etc, but overall he is a much more consistent player.

Jaedong is a brilliant player, and him beating Genius is wonderful for him. But... you have one of the best BW progamers of all time beating perhaps the laziest player in the GSL in a single best of 3 series.

I myself can't wait to see what they can do in the future of sc2 and the expansions. It certainly has me a little excited to say the least.

But there is no elephant in the room, they haven't even made it through the front door. In the winners bracket with the exception of Roro and Reality they got their asses handed to them, they got rolled. Lets not forget that lol.


GSL prelims should be interesting though, if some of the Kespa players can get through will be interesting to see how they go in Code A. We will be able to see then, how much they have progressed.

If any GSL player is inconsistent, its his problem. I don't think that, in competitions, inconsistency could be used as an excuse to deny that a player isn't worse than, let's say, another player who posts better results. In my opinion, whatever reason causing GSL palyers' losses right now is exactly their weakness. If they keep losing like this, than they are inferior players in comparison to KESPA players, nothing else.
scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
August 17 2012 04:45 GMT
#38
Jeadong fighting !
Brood War is forever
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 04:54:44
August 17 2012 04:52 GMT
#39
JAEDONG

Hmm, did Flash say Effort was the best Kespa player awhile ago, or was it Soulkey? One of them were the first of the Kespa players to break GM iirc.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Tsutchie
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia951 Posts
August 17 2012 05:17 GMT
#40
On August 17 2012 12:27 Mataza wrote:
I thought the Elephant was about total domination if/once the bw pros switch over. May still happen, but "oh, some of Kespa are better than some of GOM" doesn´t have any impact on me.
Looks like a pretty even playing field right now to me.

But yeah, it´s pretty exciting how things will look once the bag has been shaken and the dust settles.


i thought the elephant was about the lack of dedicated training on the gom side, one that rivals kespa style training regime. so when the kespa players switch over with their hardwork and talent, the laxed training regime of the gom will get stomped. not kespa > gom period.

one also has to remember kespa team have huge sponsors, which means huge money. and in every professional sport ive looked at. the team with the most money tend to do pretty well to say the least. i wouldnt be supprised if skt1 absorbs slayers when the trading freeze is over. and i wouldnt be supprised if some of the weaker team disappear because of it.
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 22m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft291
RuFF_SC2 228
NeuroSwarm 132
Livibee 94
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 5740
Hm[arnc] 135
Shuttle 124
Noble 34
ajuk12(nOOB) 20
Icarus 9
Bale 6
Dota 2
febbydoto41
League of Legends
JimRising 792
C9.Mang0541
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King88
Other Games
summit1g11524
KnowMe831
ViBE62
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1988
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Sammyuel 46
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Diggity2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1351
• Rush1139
• HappyZerGling105
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
3h 22m
Wardi Open
6h 22m
Monday Night Weeklies
11h 22m
PiGosaur Monday
19h 22m
OSC
1d 5h
The PondCast
2 days
OSC
2 days
Big Brain Bouts
4 days
Serral vs TBD
BSL 21
5 days
BSL 21
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

IPSL Winter 2025-26
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.