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turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 03:49:32
August 17 2012 02:17 GMT
#21
wax still sour that LITERALLY HUNDREDS of bw pros arent dominating so he has to get his dong fix somewhere



previously on TL writes about elephants...


but Effort has now beaten two of the best players GomTV hard to offer in consecutive series. His win against DongRaeGu


However, he's (DRG) presently crashing and burning in one of the most epic free falls we've ever seen from a progamer



you guyyyysss....
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 17 2012 02:20 GMT
#22
Either Rain or Soulkey is probably going to pull an upset. The question is... which one?
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 17 2012 02:23 GMT
#23
On August 17 2012 11:20 BrokenMirage wrote:
Either Rain or Soulkey is probably going to pull an upset. The question is... which one?


What if both of them win? That would certainly be surprising...
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Cink
Profile Joined April 2010
United States93 Posts
August 17 2012 02:31 GMT
#24
Effort and Jaedong hwaiting!!!
Samsung KHAN| Stork4Lyfe
Cink
Profile Joined April 2010
United States93 Posts
August 17 2012 02:34 GMT
#25
On August 17 2012 11:20 BrokenMirage wrote:
Either Rain or Soulkey is probably going to pull an upset. The question is... which one?

I want to say rain has the better chance, but...Soulkey is Soulkey...the guy does the impossible when I least expect it, by either impressing or disappointing.
Samsung KHAN| Stork4Lyfe
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
August 17 2012 02:34 GMT
#26
I remember when I told everyone (with other people doing it too, but we seemed like the minority) that when that elephant comes into the room, it won't be like the kinda burnt out ForGG or nearly retired Boxer/Nada/July but when the actual A Team KeSPA players come over, motherfuckers watch out because they're here to rape everyone.
FoTG fighting!
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
August 17 2012 02:42 GMT
#27
I won't be able to watch the games.T_T
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
August 17 2012 02:55 GMT
#28
Come on, Soulkey and By.Sun. I won't doubt anymore.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 03:03:59
August 17 2012 03:03 GMT
#29
Damn, the BW players are wrecking shit up. Their world torn from them by the greed of OGN, MBC, and Kespa, and here they are in a brave new world and taking command. *manly tear*
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
August 17 2012 03:27 GMT
#30
I thought the Elephant was about total domination if/once the bw pros switch over. May still happen, but "oh, some of Kespa are better than some of GOM" doesn´t have any impact on me.
Looks like a pretty even playing field right now to me.

But yeah, it´s pretty exciting how things will look once the bag has been shaken and the dust settles.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
August 17 2012 03:29 GMT
#31
soulkey > Hero. Sorry TL.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
August 17 2012 03:54 GMT
#32
On August 17 2012 11:34 Cink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 11:20 BrokenMirage wrote:
Either Rain or Soulkey is probably going to pull an upset. The question is... which one?

I want to say rain has the better chance, but...Soulkey is Soulkey...the guy does the impossible when I least expect it, by either impressing or disappointing.


Rain definitely has the worst chance. He didn't look terribly impressive in the PvZ against horror and horror was in fact in an advantageous position a number of times in game 3 but never did anything about it.

I think Soulkey has more of a chance. It may be Hero PvZ, but it's soulkey. If it's going to go 1-1 I think it will be double zerg as opposed to double toss.
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sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
August 17 2012 04:13 GMT
#33
On August 17 2012 11:34 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
I remember when I told everyone (with other people doing it too, but we seemed like the minority) that when that elephant comes into the room, it won't be like the kinda burnt out ForGG or nearly retired Boxer/Nada/July but when the actual A Team KeSPA players come over, motherfuckers watch out because they're here to rape everyone.


Exactly what I was thinking and seeing everyone doubt me was funny.
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0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 04:17:27
August 17 2012 04:16 GMT
#34
Please stop denying these events mean something. The Elephant article was talking about immediate switching. Also, GOM SC2 players are almost all former Kespa b-teamers. So it's basically the better elephants coming up to speed and passing the lesser elephants. But they're all elephants.
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
August 17 2012 04:27 GMT
#35
Not even my SC2 Zerg hate can stop me from being happy for Jaedong.
6BiT
Profile Joined December 2011
513 Posts
August 17 2012 04:29 GMT
#36
everyone looks at things in a different way... elephant stomping around.. I dont think so :S

Effort beating was an upset I agree, but Gumiho has never really been mr consistent. One series he can be brilliant, next series... not so much. His win over DongRaeGu was a bigger deal, yes drg is in a slump etc etc, but overall he is a much more consistent player.

Jaedong is a brilliant player, and him beating Genius is wonderful for him. But... you have one of the best BW progamers of all time beating perhaps the laziest player in the GSL in a single best of 3 series.

I myself can't wait to see what they can do in the future of sc2 and the expansions. It certainly has me a little excited to say the least.

But there is no elephant in the room, they haven't even made it through the front door. In the winners bracket with the exception of Roro and Reality they got their asses handed to them, they got rolled. Lets not forget that lol.


GSL prelims should be interesting though, if some of the Kespa players can get through will be interesting to see how they go in Code A. We will be able to see then, how much they have progressed.
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chisuri
Profile Joined January 2010
Vietnam789 Posts
August 17 2012 04:40 GMT
#37
On August 17 2012 13:29 6BiT wrote:
everyone looks at things in a different way... elephant stomping around.. I dont think so :S

Effort beating was an upset I agree, but Gumiho has never really been mr consistent. One series he can be brilliant, next series... not so much. His win over DongRaeGu was a bigger deal, yes drg is in a slump etc etc, but overall he is a much more consistent player.

Jaedong is a brilliant player, and him beating Genius is wonderful for him. But... you have one of the best BW progamers of all time beating perhaps the laziest player in the GSL in a single best of 3 series.

I myself can't wait to see what they can do in the future of sc2 and the expansions. It certainly has me a little excited to say the least.

But there is no elephant in the room, they haven't even made it through the front door. In the winners bracket with the exception of Roro and Reality they got their asses handed to them, they got rolled. Lets not forget that lol.


GSL prelims should be interesting though, if some of the Kespa players can get through will be interesting to see how they go in Code A. We will be able to see then, how much they have progressed.

If any GSL player is inconsistent, its his problem. I don't think that, in competitions, inconsistency could be used as an excuse to deny that a player isn't worse than, let's say, another player who posts better results. In my opinion, whatever reason causing GSL palyers' losses right now is exactly their weakness. If they keep losing like this, than they are inferior players in comparison to KESPA players, nothing else.
scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
August 17 2012 04:45 GMT
#38
Jeadong fighting !
Brood War is forever
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 04:54:44
August 17 2012 04:52 GMT
#39
JAEDONG

Hmm, did Flash say Effort was the best Kespa player awhile ago, or was it Soulkey? One of them were the first of the Kespa players to break GM iirc.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Tsutchie
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia951 Posts
August 17 2012 05:17 GMT
#40
On August 17 2012 12:27 Mataza wrote:
I thought the Elephant was about total domination if/once the bw pros switch over. May still happen, but "oh, some of Kespa are better than some of GOM" doesn´t have any impact on me.
Looks like a pretty even playing field right now to me.

But yeah, it´s pretty exciting how things will look once the bag has been shaken and the dust settles.


i thought the elephant was about the lack of dedicated training on the gom side, one that rivals kespa style training regime. so when the kespa players switch over with their hardwork and talent, the laxed training regime of the gom will get stomped. not kespa > gom period.

one also has to remember kespa team have huge sponsors, which means huge money. and in every professional sport ive looked at. the team with the most money tend to do pretty well to say the least. i wouldnt be supprised if skt1 absorbs slayers when the trading freeze is over. and i wouldnt be supprised if some of the weaker team disappear because of it.
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