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[MLG] Summer Arena: Draft Review - Page 4

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Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
July 20 2012 03:03 GMT
#61
On July 20 2012 11:59 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 11:04 Dexington wrote:
On July 20 2012 10:17 Megakenny wrote:
TL writer is 1 for 8 right now? Not bad.


Meanwhile Apollo was like 14/16

I didn't watch, but I would imagine Apollo was picking with the knowledge of the previous pick in mind i.e. knowing who was out? That would be a completely different and much easier kind of thing than predicting how everything rolls out from start to finish.

He was but only partially. He picked on the spot but forgot to cross of his paper list, resulting in one of his mistakes being due to picking a player that was already picked. (At least so I remember)
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
July 20 2012 03:03 GMT
#62
On July 20 2012 11:56 Adebisi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 11:50 tree.hugger wrote:
Hmmm, PuMa picking Welmu really messed up the rest of our draft. We were very very wary of Welmu; I think PuMa would have no trouble against a foreign zerg, but by picking Welmu, one of Europe's more dangerous protsses, he''s inviting a bit of danger. Doesn't mean PuMa won't win, but Welmu is a much stronger player than the third picking would suggest. Certainly better than Daisy, whom PuMa avoided.

Koreans will always avoid picking another Korean I think, even a Korean living in Europe.

Doesn't mean it's the best decision!
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 20 2012 03:04 GMT
#63
On July 20 2012 11:59 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 11:04 Dexington wrote:
On July 20 2012 10:17 Megakenny wrote:
TL writer is 1 for 8 right now? Not bad.


Meanwhile Apollo was like 14/16

I didn't watch, but I would imagine Apollo was picking with the knowledge of the previous pick in mind i.e. knowing who was out? That would be a completely different and much easier kind of thing than predicting how everything rolls out from start to finish.

I'm watching it now, thats exactly how he did it. He wasn't completely specific with players, he'd pick 2-3 choices that the player would make.
http://www.twitch.tv/mlg_live/b/325523111
Starts around 15 minutes in.
Despite that, Apollo did insanely well, to the point that JP had to remind the viewers that Apollo wasn't cheating and was making the predictions legitimately.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
July 20 2012 03:04 GMT
#64
Sasquatch fighting!
13JackaL
Profile Joined March 2011
United States577 Posts
July 20 2012 03:35 GMT
#65
qxc pull the upset IN AMERICA

sorry stephano, you arent a true american
and my axe
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 04:14:16
July 20 2012 04:13 GMT
#66
whoops
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Tppz!
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1449 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 05:46:32
July 20 2012 05:45 GMT
#67
picks can be found here:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Summer/Arena
KDN
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway96 Posts
July 20 2012 06:52 GMT
#68
Hero - Stephano in winners bracket 4, calling it now.
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
July 20 2012 07:00 GMT
#69
Stephano's gona kick everybody's teeth out!Trust me he got this...it's in the bag.
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
July 20 2012 07:14 GMT
#70
On July 20 2012 12:35 13JackaL wrote:
qxc pull the upset IN AMERICA

sorry stephano, you arent a true american

Sure he is, haven't you seen this video?
+ Show Spoiler +
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
July 20 2012 07:56 GMT
#71
Damn qxc, I'm fucking rooting for you!

You'd better fuck shit up.

"The surest way to win, is to determine to succeed."

.
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
deadmau
Profile Joined September 2010
960 Posts
July 20 2012 08:11 GMT
#72
Uhhh, I thought top 8 from Spring Champ are seeded into arena. Where's DRG? Where's MKP? This list makes no sense.
robih
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria1086 Posts
July 20 2012 09:18 GMT
#73
to me TOP and sortof are the most interesting players in this
really interested if they can do something here
Atrimex
Profile Joined July 2011
193 Posts
July 20 2012 09:29 GMT
#74
stephano will never pick goody after his loss against him in berlin (and goody will be pick first by alica) and grubby will never pick roof. I hope that sortof will make a great run, because he is playing really good lately.
Pippi
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden540 Posts
July 20 2012 13:01 GMT
#75
On July 20 2012 16:56 Qwyn wrote:


You'd better fuck shit up.


.


Thats nasty man
Toast and coffe
kommunalka
Profile Joined February 2011
United States550 Posts
July 20 2012 15:28 GMT
#76
Awesome write up... Loving the mock draft style post..... things ended up panning out differently than many of the predictions but well worth the read anyways.
rG
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
July 20 2012 16:08 GMT
#77
I am hoping LosirA will come to play instead of being the tourist and enjoying the trip to the US. His play often is as good as ever his mental state seems shaky ever sinds ... Oh well Hoping for a Grubby showing aswell :D
solidONE
Profile Joined August 2010
United States160 Posts
July 20 2012 18:07 GMT
#78
i seriously don't get why TOP got shit on so bad in this. I have a feeling he's going to show better games than expected. And as for doing nothing, qualifying for OSL over a lot of people that should have is a start considering he's teamless and his only avenue to really show performance is to qualify for GSL again, which isn't exactly easy.
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 18:13:18
July 20 2012 18:11 GMT
#79
This article needs to be cleaned up. You should hire someone (me) to proof read these things.


While a lot of the foreigners left are players who have been building moment recently,


After seeing him crush MC, HerO, and Alicia at NASL, you may have been led to believe that Stephano's best match-up is ZvT. We beg to differ. Scary as it might seem, we believe that Stephano playing ZvT post-queen patch is even more formidable


Good overall read though. Stephano is likely going to face 2 ZvZ's after QXC, so the bottom half of the bracket is hard to predict. I can see Alicia coming out of the top half, he has some nasty all-ins for Ryung if he advances vs Sheth.

I also think Puma was correct in picking Welmu. Tefel is good and TvZ is tough these days.
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
July 20 2012 18:16 GMT
#80
Man, whoever writes these arcticles for TL definitely doesn't know much about the European scene and is very biased towards Koreans. I really want to enjoy these articles, but it just doesn't work out.
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