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LowEloPlayer
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States205 Posts
June 14 2012 18:21 GMT
#41
On June 14 2012 23:12 Nuubie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2012 22:55 opterown wrote:
-mkp is very rarely send out last, creator is possibly a better 'ace' option in terms of the word. most valuable player is mkp, but 'ace' is creator imo


I think 'ace' isnt played last in all-kill format, you can see this trend in almost all teams.


Yes, that is a trend, but not necessarily the definition of the word. The ace imo is just the person who consistenly gets a lot of kills, whether they are sent out last or not is up to the team. Now, I'm not going to debate whether MKP or Creator fulfills that role more, but that is what I personally think the definition is.

Of course, you usually want to play your ace last or near the end because you want your lesser known players to try and tough it out and see how you do, but other teams who want to be more "safe" may play them earlier.

For example, in the KSL Grand Finals, Prime and StarTale both played their "aces," Bomber and MKP ("But hey, Bomber isn't the ace" - that's debatable, because the ST house still says he is) first.
hmm... let's think about it
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 14 2012 18:42 GMT
#42
so erm... like half of fnatic won't even be able to play cause of dreamhack? kinda sad to see none of the teams really take GSTL seriously.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
June 14 2012 18:58 GMT
#43
On June 15 2012 03:42 Schelim wrote:
so erm... like half of fnatic won't even be able to play cause of dreamhack? kinda sad to see none of the teams really take GSTL seriously.

oGs disbanding, all the partnerships, tons of players not available when their team plays...I honestly can't take the whole team league serious anymore.
No Mvp, no care. ~ the King will be back | Shawn Ray, Kevin Levrone, Phil Heath |
GeorgeH
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom190 Posts
June 14 2012 19:56 GMT
#44
On June 15 2012 03:42 Schelim wrote:
so erm... like half of fnatic won't even be able to play cause of dreamhack? kinda sad to see none of the teams really take GSTL seriously.


Only ToD and NightEnD are going, so it's not a big deal.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
June 14 2012 20:18 GMT
#45
Fnatic could use their zergs
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
June 14 2012 20:23 GMT
#46
Moon all kill inc
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 14 2012 20:35 GMT
#47
On June 15 2012 04:56 GeorgeH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 03:42 Schelim wrote:
so erm... like half of fnatic won't even be able to play cause of dreamhack? kinda sad to see none of the teams really take GSTL seriously.


Only ToD and NightEnD are going, so it's not a big deal.


Moon is going as well.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
GeorgeH
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom190 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 20:39:44
June 14 2012 20:38 GMT
#48
On June 15 2012 05:35 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 04:56 GeorgeH wrote:
On June 15 2012 03:42 Schelim wrote:
so erm... like half of fnatic won't even be able to play cause of dreamhack? kinda sad to see none of the teams really take GSTL seriously.


Only ToD and NightEnD are going, so it's not a big deal.


Moon is going as well.


He isn't.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_DreamHack_Open/Summer
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8477 Posts
June 14 2012 20:39 GMT
#49
On June 14 2012 22:55 opterown wrote:
some mistakes:
-ascent, not accent

Yep
maru has allkilled once only? unless you spoiled a result and maru allkilled liquid in IPL TAC 3 lololol

KSL too

-oz is a ro4-er?

Yea, I thought so as well, but liquidpedia told me otherwise.

-mkp is very rarely send out last, creator is possibly a better 'ace' option in terms of the word. most valuable player is mkp, but 'ace' is creator imo

It's more fun to talk about mkp.
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Aoxer
Profile Joined June 2012
44 Posts
June 14 2012 20:44 GMT
#50
On June 14 2012 22:37 Elem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2012 22:30 Amestir wrote:
Moon all kill. It is time.
I'm with you, bro!


I'm with you guys, first symbol, now monster, it is time for the moon to rise once more...

being a terran player i'm a little sad though lol, dat zerg <3
"No amout of macro will make marines beat banelings"
hnim
Profile Joined July 2011
United States86 Posts
June 14 2012 20:47 GMT
#51
Both Alive and Oz have reached Ro4 in Code S.
Mvp fanboy
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
June 14 2012 21:11 GMT
#52
PRRRRIIIIIME! MKP/Creator/Byun 3hit combo way outclass a moon-less fnatic. No nightend/tod either hurts as well I suppose. Thier only strong players are Byul, Oz and Alive and Prime has the depth to get snipers trained for at least Oz and Alive. Add the fact that MKP, Creator and Byun can all go on a tear and 3-4-5-kill, fnatic has no chance.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 21:12:26
June 14 2012 21:11 GMT
#53
Maru all kill. Team league all star!
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 14 2012 21:22 GMT
#54
On June 15 2012 05:38 GeorgeH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 05:35 Schelim wrote:
On June 15 2012 04:56 GeorgeH wrote:
On June 15 2012 03:42 Schelim wrote:
so erm... like half of fnatic won't even be able to play cause of dreamhack? kinda sad to see none of the teams really take GSTL seriously.


Only ToD and NightEnD are going, so it's not a big deal.


Moon is going as well.


He isn't.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_DreamHack_Open/Summer


oh, thank you. well that's great for the GSTL but now dreamhack just got a lot less interesting to me after finding out that Moon and Goody aren't playing. lol there's just too many tournaments lately.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
June 14 2012 21:24 GMT
#55
Moon all kill!
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
June 14 2012 22:45 GMT
#56
It's all about one man: MKP.
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 23:18:37
June 14 2012 23:12 GMT
#57
I think it's unfair to say IM is not a team with a lot of strong players, they have 8 players in code a/s.

then you have poor yonghwa who is cursed to stay in code b forever but is really good

+ Show Spoiler +
just all-killed in IPL tac yesterday
JKM
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark419 Posts
June 14 2012 23:17 GMT
#58
On June 15 2012 07:45 zmansman17 wrote:
It's all about one man: MKP.


You're right MKP = Moon kills Prime.

Atleast I hope so!
1338, one upping 1337
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
June 14 2012 23:28 GMT
#59
I would love to see someone finally be able to defeat Prime. A partial foreigner team would be a nice touch to do so. As long as at least send out a foreigner -.-
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
June 14 2012 23:45 GMT
#60
On June 15 2012 08:12 Dodgin wrote:
I think it's unfair to say IM is not a team with a lot of strong players, they have 8 players in code a/s.

then you have poor yonghwa who is cursed to stay in code b forever but is really good

+ Show Spoiler +
just all-killed in IPL tac yesterday

He's like PuMa, lol.

I used to really dislike PuMa's style, but I've got to say that I've started feeling really bad for him when he failed in the qualifiers for the umpteenth time.
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