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[GSTL] Round One - Day 2 Recap/Day 3 Preview

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May 29th, 2012 15:11 GMT

Table of Contents






Group A, Day Three
Intro



Liquid vs ZeNEX
Recap



SlayerS-EG vs ZeNEX
Preview



Check out the GSTL on Liquipedia



New Lease On Life



One team's misfortune is another team's blessing. Liquid fell to ZeNEX in their GSTL debut, suffering a painful 1 - 5 all-kill. They will have their work cut out for them in their upcoming elimination match, where they go up against NS HoSeo. Meanwhile, ZeNEX not only won the match, but saw long time prospect ZeNEXLife finally break out with a stellar in-studio performance. If Life can keep performing at that level, ZeNEX will graduate from being a free-win, to being a very dangerous team in the GSTL.

We'll see if ZeNEX and Life can keep up their good performance tonight, as they go against SlayerS-EG in the winners match. The winner will move on to the next round of the GSTL, while the loser will await the victor of Team Liquid vs NSH in the final match of the group.

GSTL kicks off tonight at 09:10 GMT (+00:00).

*Our apologies for the outdated news-post graphics. They will be updated in the near future.

Recap: Liquid vs ZeNEX



ZeNEX's Life welcomes Liquid to the GSTL with an all-kill (ZeNEX 5 - 1 Liquid)

Match results from Live Report Thread by SeeKeR.
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
(P)Avenge <GSL Cloud Kingdom> (Z)Zenio
(Z)Life <Daybreak> (Z)Zenio
(Z)Life <Entombed Valley> (P)HerO
(Z)Life (T)Jinro
(Z)Life <Antiga Shipyard 1.2> (Z)HayprO
(Z)Life <GSL Ohana> (Z)TLO
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FINAL SCORE:
ZeNEX 5 - 1 TL


In some ways, it was an inevitable result. Known for his impressive skill when playing online, the sixteen year old ZeNEXLife was expected to finally break out in the GSL studio at some point in his career. Unfortunately for Team Liquid, he picked the day of their GSTL debut, scoring an all-kill against the hopeful foreign team. TaeJa's absence due to his participation at Red Bull Battlegrounds was painfully felt, as his skillful TvZ and 9 - 1 record against Life might have saved the day.

Life came out as the second runner for his team, switching in for Avenge after he surrendered the first set to Liquid's Zenio. After Life took down Zenio, Liquid opted to deploy HerO sooner than later, before Life could build up any more momentum. However, Life looked more than equal to the Code S semi-finalist, and won with formidable macro on Entombed Valley. After that, Life hardly had to break a sweat. Jinro, Haypro, and TLO fell in order, with none of them able to put up much of a fight against the rampaging Life.

ZeNEX moves on to face SlayerS-EG tomorrow in the winners' match of group A, with the winner progressing to the second round of the GSTL. In Liquid's case, they go up against New Star HoSeo in the losers' match, where the defeated team will suffer elimination from the GSTL.


Match Recap

The series opened with (Z)Liquid`Zenio vs (P)ZeNEXAvenge on Cloud Kingdom. It was a scrappy game that followed a fairly standard PvZ pattern, with Avenge going up to three bases while Zenio took his fourth base and made his way up to hive. Zenio's lair stage army couldn't handle Avenge's force, and he was battered left and right to the verge of defeat. However, Avenge made a crucial mistake by allowing Zenio to hold on to a 'hidden' base that could have easily been killed, and Zenio managed to just barely put together a brood lord force that forced the GG from Avenge.

(Z)ZeNEXLife was then sent forth to take out Zenio as a ZvZ sniper – an unusual role until you looked at Life's 10 – 1 ZvZ record in 2012. Their game played out normally on Daybreak, with both players trying to get on each others nerves with harassment while going up to three bases a piece. A well timed, mid-size roach attack earned Life ZvZ win number eleven on the year, hitting just before Zenio started pumping out mass roaches to support his infestors.

Liquid chose to play their ace card earlier than later, putting (P)Liquid`HerO in an optimal situation to defeat Life on Entombed Valley. Anticipating HerO to go for a long game on the map, Life opened up with a very greedy, three hatch before pool build, one that ended up paying off. Life went up to four bases and hive very quickly, putting him in a great position to take on whatever HerO would make from three bases.

HerO looked like he was in trouble once Life put together a well supported brood lord force, but he used his excellent combat micro to destroy Life's first force with stalkers and templars. However, right on the heels of that victory, HerO ran head-on into defeat. His stalkers chased the fleeing Zerg army onto creep, even blinking ahead to catch up. They ended up materializing right in the middle of a huge swarm of reinforcing lings, resulting in the complete annihilation of HerO's army. With his core broken, HerO had no chance of defending against the continued waves of Zerg troops being sent his way, and he GG'd out.

(T)Liquid`Jinro was next up for Liquid, making his first GSL appearance since July of 2011. Unfortunately for Jinro, it was not the return he wanted. Expecting Life to play a more standard game, Jinro went for a typical reactor-hellion triple orbital build, while Life was doing something else entirely. He went for the rarely seen ZvT mutalisk rush, a build that ended up working out because of its sheer unlikeliness. A fast muta-ling attack was enough to beat Jinro outright, forcing Liquid to bring out (Z)Liquid`HayprO as their fourth player.

The player known as 'The Banjo' once defeated Nestea at an MLG event, but there would be no such upset for him in Korea. After similar starts where both players opened with two base mutalisks, Life struck with a deadly muta-roach-infestor-hydralisk timing that completely overwhelmed HayprO.

It was all up to (Z)Liquid`TLO to pull off a miracle as the final player remaining, but he ended up becoming kill #5 for Life instead. TLO played Life evenly for a decent portion of the game, fending off an early zergling attack and safely moving into the mid-game. However, TLO ended up suffering a similar loss as Zenio and HayprO, with Life finding just the right time to attack before his opponent was ready. Life's well upgraded roaches were able to break through TLO's defenses before infestors were out, and TLO surrendered the final GG to Life.


Player of the match: (Z)ZeNEXLife

Life has been known for his considerable talent at a young age for quite a while now. Right up to the Liquid match, he was also known for being unable to adjust to the pressure of playing at the Mokdong studio, and had disappointed in his limited outings in the GSL.

It would be absolutely huge for ZeNEX if this all-kill finally gets Life over that hump, as it would give them the reliable multi-kill card they've always needed. A confident Life would be akin to a Zerg version of what TaeJa was for SlayerS in the past: a very talented young player who can destroy entire teams when he gets going.


Game of the night: Game One – Zenio vs Avenge

Life had to work a little against HerO, but overall he was hardly troubled in his all-kill of Liquid. Instead, watch Zenio vs Avenge, a rather sloppy, but entertainingly scrappy game. Avenge had Zenio on the ropes for long portions of the game, but Zenio managed to barely hold on to come back using brood lords.


SlayerS-EG

ZeNEX



Where They Stand

For SlayerS-EG, not much has changed from two days ago. Go read our earlier preview, you'll find that pretty much everything about SlayerS is still valid. Their 5 – 3 victory over New Star HoSeo didn't give us much new information, and it mostly just reconfirmed the fact that Puzzle is a very strong player in standard games. We already know that at positions two through five, SlayerS-EG has a wealth of solid players to deploy. What we still need to see is their number one, their ace MMA, to know if they can make a serious run at the championship.

In a strange turn of events, ZeNEX might become the first team to draw him out. Before last night's games, it was hard to think that MMA would be needed to defeat ZeNEX, and it seemed certain that any combination of four SlayerS-EG players would certainly take out ZeNEX's motley crew beforehand. However, with Life finally 'exploding his potential' (as the Koreans call it), ZeNEX has suddenly become a far more dangerous team. The #1 player on the ladder and one of the best online cup players in the business, there's no knowing what Life could do after his all-kill on Liquid. Amusingly, the cost of learning that Life can get it done in-studio was being unable to see the other ZeNEX prospect, Extreme in action. There might be more surprises from ZeNEX yet.


Players of Interest

SlayerS-EG: (P)Crank, (P)JYP, Zerg players

Because of SlayerS' continued faith in Crank, it's hard not to be intrigued. His highly entertaining carrier play against NSH's Freaky gave us a glimpse of what the SlayerS management sees in him. While he hasn't been particularly great, at least he isn't a waste of a spot like Ganzi was in his early GSTL career (SlayerS continued to play him despite his losses, until he finally found his feet). He probably won't have to perform that well for SlayerS to beat ZeNEX, but it would be nice to see him really justify his continued selection.

There aren't any really notable Terran players on ZeNEX, so I'm hoping JYP has been begging Cella to let him play. He's been an excellent PvZ player for quite some time now, and he seems like an excellent sniper card should ZeNEX deploy Life early in the line-up again. Obviously, MMA is the easiest solution to any Zerg problems ZeNEX could present, but JYP could easily fill-in if SlayerS-EG want to preserve MMA for later.

So, who's going to take care of Avenge and Extreme should they get going? PuMa hasn't looked like his Protoss slaying self in recent months, while Ryung and MMA have never looked that great in that match-up. PvP sniping is a possibility, but players and viewers seem to still be undecided on whether that match-up is a coin-flip or not. How about a Zerg then?

It's hard to tell exactly which Zerg player SlayerS will use, however. There appears to be a rotating door policy in place for their Zerg line-up, which is a bit surprising until you remember that Boxer used to be on SKT during his Brood War days (this in joke will go unexplained). (Z)CoCa has been their most frequently used Zerg in the EGMC, but (Z)Min and (Z)Miya are finding a decent amount of playing time as well. Oddly enough, (Z)YuGiOh is only a bit-part player for SlayerS, even though he's their best performing Zerg in the GSL.


ZeNEX: (Z)Life, (P)Extreme

The key players for ZeNEX against SlayerS-EG are the same two from their match-up against Liquid. Life and Extreme are their biggest prospects, and their ability to play up to their talent will decide how far ZeNEX go in this GSTL.

Life already exploded once against Team Liquid, which should thrill ZeNEX and its fans going forward. His all-kill can't be played down just because three of his five wins were against foreigners in TLO, Jinro, and HayprO. Life's talent isn't in question, only his ability to display it at the Gom studio. With the confidence from his all-kill, it's become much more likely that Life will start playing up to his potential.

A minor casualty of Life's all-kill was Extreme, a player we touted as another big prospect for ZeNEX going into the match against Liquid. Life's rampage forced us to wait another day to check on Extreme's progress. Extreme tore viciously into oGs' Terran line in his last GSTL outing, and he'll find SlayerS' Terrans to be quite a bit softer if he gets a chance to play.


Aces

(T)SlayerS_MMA vs (Z)ZeNEXLine

Ace vs ace is usually a tantalizing possibility for the viewers, but in this case it would end up in a murder. MMA destroyed his old friend Line in their Code A games, and he wasn't even playing that well. He's an interesting problem for ZeNEX to try and solve, as he completely counters their two best players in Line and Life, while he himself is vulnerable to being sniped by Avenge, Extreme, or maybe even Mushroom. All of this means we're unlikely to see the traditional use of aces as anchors/closers in this series, as there's even more match-up chess going on than usual.


Prediction

Life's break out performance was awesome for ZeNEX. It's not guaranteed that he's been magically cured of his broadcast game jitters, but we can guarantee that he'll have plenty of confidence left over from his Liquid all-kill when he's playing less than 24 hours later.

Unfortunately for ZeNEX, it's not going to be enough. With the exception of HerO, every single player for SlayerS-EG is going to be better than those Liquid decided was forced to field. Overall, this looks a lot like SlayerS vs NSH. ZeNEX, like NSH, will present a threat with its collection of talented players. However, it's only a threat, and the odds are they won't be able to back it up.

SlayerS 5 – 3 ZeNEX








Writer: Waxangel.
Graphics: Pathy.
Editor: Waxangel.
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TheDiversion
Profile Joined August 2011
United States36 Posts
May 29 2012 15:16 GMT
#2
Nice writeup like always Waxangel (:
Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
May 29 2012 15:17 GMT
#3
That was quite a baptism for Liquid.
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Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
May 29 2012 15:25 GMT
#4
Hope zenex can take out slayers too.
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
May 29 2012 15:26 GMT
#5
gogo slayerseg
unlucky for tl but you cant expect a foreign team to do good against korean with only 1 korean playing
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namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
May 29 2012 15:33 GMT
#6
TL underperformed so heavily, I didn't expect much from the non-korean players of the team of course. But Zenio and especially HerO kinda disappointed.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 29 2012 15:36 GMT
#7
Hey Zenex, I'm really happy for you, and you played very well last night, but Slayers is the best team in the world. The best team!

That zerg line by Zenex will melt to MMA.
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Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
May 29 2012 15:43 GMT
#8
TL.

TL vs NSHS is going to get ugly :3

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BreakfastBurrito
Profile Joined November 2011
United States893 Posts
May 29 2012 15:44 GMT
#9
that blink forward was brutal. watching the game i was thinking to myself, oh Life's army is pretty much gone, now hero will just- wait a second.. oh.. lings eveywhere
I love ZeNEX and hope for ZeNEXCELLENCE all season but slayers may just put the smackdown on them :S
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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 15:48:51
May 29 2012 15:46 GMT
#10
SlayerS are going to get ZeNEXTERMINATED.

No Harrier propsect mention, Fionn letting me down (though maybe it's for the best given jinxing and all that ¬_¬)
Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
May 29 2012 15:48 GMT
#11
Never thought that Line would do that all kill Zenios first game was amazing loved it
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TheIlluminated
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway35 Posts
May 29 2012 15:49 GMT
#12
Thanks for the spoilers. For goodness sake leave any spoilers from the main page and put them in a "spoiler alert" inside the article. Now I have no f-ing reason to watch the VODs.
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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
May 29 2012 15:51 GMT
#13
On May 30 2012 00:49 TheIlluminated wrote:
Thanks for the spoilers. For goodness sake leave any spoilers from the main page and put them in a "spoiler alert" inside the article. Now I have no f-ing reason to watch the VODs.


Check the "Hide spoilers" box at the bottom of the front page...
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3830 Posts
May 29 2012 15:52 GMT
#14
Stop calling Life Line, people!

Feel kind of sad for Liquid. Having just one toss is bad against Life.

SlayerS will probably beat ZeNEX, given their Protoss density. ZeNEX doesn't have any vP snipers.
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OkStyX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1199 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 16:01:32
May 29 2012 16:00 GMT
#15
Life is sick good ! I liked watching these games . Also Wax Angel nice writeup! :D thank you !!!
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 29 2012 16:11 GMT
#16
On May 30 2012 00:33 namste wrote:
TL underperformed so heavily, I didn't expect much from the non-korean players of the team of course. But Zenio and especially HerO kinda disappointed.


Zenio won a game, I don't think he disappointed. TL was screwed as soon as Hero got 0 kills with Taeja missing.
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
May 29 2012 16:13 GMT
#17
On May 30 2012 01:11 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 00:33 namste wrote:
TL underperformed so heavily, I didn't expect much from the non-korean players of the team of course. But Zenio and especially HerO kinda disappointed.


Zenio won a game, I don't think he disappointed. TL was screwed as soon as Hero got 0 kills with Taeja missing.


Well Zenio is a code S -player (Or did he fall to code A, not a huge fan of him so I usually skip everything related to Zenio) class player, most of ZeNEX isn't even in Code A. Expected to him get at least two kills.
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mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
May 29 2012 16:17 GMT
#18
I guess it's safe to say that TeamLiquid isn't... PRO LIFE
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fenrysk
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States364 Posts
May 29 2012 16:47 GMT
#19
thanks for the write up, Wax!
the games after HerO's loss were very hard to watch, I honestly wanted to see Jinro play the game out but the way it turned out felt more like just watching an unlucky build order loss for Jinro =\

i'm still pulling for a sick Liquid victory over NSH for thursday's match
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Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 16:56:50
May 29 2012 16:55 GMT
#20
Liquid needed all of its team there, no Ret, Tajea, or Sheth really hurt (even Nony wouldn't have brrn bad).
Plus getting the teamhouse just set up really sucks.
Ah well, hopefully they learn and will be back next season.
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1st_Panzer_Div.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States621 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 17:06:39
May 29 2012 17:06 GMT
#21
Taeja missing really hurt.
Manager, Team RIP ZeeZ
Laplaces_imp
Profile Joined January 2012
368 Posts
May 29 2012 17:23 GMT
#22
If Taeja isn't uber jet lagged from Red Bull, i think TL has a shot at NSH. They have a number of options available to take down jjackji, and i think alot of the other players should be able to go toe to toe with most of NSH's line up. Really looking forward to those games and hopefully a rematch vs Zenex (this time with HerO getting the all kill)
TheTurk
Profile Joined January 2011
United States732 Posts
May 29 2012 17:26 GMT
#23
>_> TL you make me so sad. T_T
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Inviteme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States165 Posts
May 29 2012 17:37 GMT
#24
if liquid wants to survive , they have recruit KT-FLASH for the next match.. and is GG
asdf
Chengakz
Profile Joined January 2012
United States163 Posts
May 29 2012 17:37 GMT
#25
Not surprising but still disappointing for Liquid...... Another MMA upset and the world will end
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
May 29 2012 17:40 GMT
#26
Thanks for the write-up!
Also: poor TL
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Rampager
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia1007 Posts
May 29 2012 17:41 GMT
#27
Youch, I hope Liquid members keep their chins up. You can really tell the strength of a team based on their ability to get back up after getting knocked down. Atleast, that's what I see in ZeNEX all the time, they try so hard D:
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
May 29 2012 18:04 GMT
#28
Aw, man.

Hard start. But I can't really say that I expected much more.

I think Liquid's world class, but they simply can't just walk into GSTL and win. Just doesn't happen.
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densha
Profile Joined December 2010
United States797 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 18:12:07
May 29 2012 18:11 GMT
#29
Life won with simple roach timings in his ZvZs and uncontested mutas against Jinro. Can that really be considered his breakout performance? It looked too easy to really say he played that impressively.
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Forgottenfrog
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1268 Posts
May 29 2012 18:11 GMT
#30
As hard as it was to watch yesterday, I am sure TL will bounce back with a strong week! They always do, so good luck with the upcoming GSTL matches.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 18:14:44
May 29 2012 18:13 GMT
#31
It's a good experience, they'll grow as a team and hopefully come back in the future matches. There's no need to over-dramatize the loss, nobody died.

That said, there are some choices by TL management that really rubbed me the wrong way. The decision to split with oGs might make sense in hindsight (given oGs' difficulties / uncertainty whether they'll even play at all), but to participate in a GSTL season with half of the team and two key players missing, on top of it have a third player who's even in Code S go to some random tournament in the US, show up without a leader and a coach on the bench - I'm sorry, but that's just not taking GSTL as seriously as it should have been taken.

Props to the players though, they tried their best and mostly got metagamed/mindgamed rather than straight up defeated. Still keeping the faith for a win vs NSHS.

Hopefully ZeNEX can take SlayerS out too.
TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
May 29 2012 18:20 GMT
#32
I'm loving all these GSTL write ups keep them coming! Tonight is going to be a close match but SlayerS-EG will be able to come out on top!
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Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
May 29 2012 18:21 GMT
#33
On May 30 2012 00:33 namste wrote:
TL underperformed so heavily, I didn't expect much from the non-korean players of the team of course. But Zenio and especially HerO kinda disappointed.


Why Zenio? He was often in Code S but he much more belongs to Code A...
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
May 29 2012 18:22 GMT
#34
On May 30 2012 03:11 densha wrote:
Life won with simple roach timings in his ZvZs and uncontested mutas against Jinro. Can that really be considered his breakout performance? It looked too easy to really say he played that impressively.


A good player makes his wins look easy.
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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 18:25:53
May 29 2012 18:24 GMT
#35
So the group works like a code S group then and not round robin? IE if Zenex loses tonight and liquid wins tomorrow then that means a liquid-Zenex rematch?
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
May 29 2012 18:27 GMT
#36
On May 30 2012 03:24 TheDougler wrote:
So the group works like a code S group then and not round robin? IE if Zenex loses tonight and liquid wins tomorrow then that means a liquid-Zenex rematch?


yes.
z0li
Profile Joined July 2011
Romania12 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 18:32:39
May 29 2012 18:31 GMT
#37
Jinro was good about 1 year ago, he is retired in my opinion. Haypro same, but never was good. TLO showed some good games but still can`t get even in Code A, so its a B list player to. they can`t compete with the korean teams, with players that fail to get in code A. Hero was the only A list player, who had a bad day, in rest was like espected.
to much marketing for some B list players
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
May 29 2012 18:36 GMT
#38
On May 30 2012 03:31 z0li wrote:
Jinro was good about 1 year ago, he is retired in my opinion. Haypro same, but never was good. TLO showed some good games but still can`t get even in Code A, so its a B list player to. they can`t compete with the korean teams, with players that fail to get in code A. Hero was the only A list player, who had a bad day, in rest was like espected.


I agree, HerO and Taeja are going to have to be like the old team of DongRaeGue and friends where the rest of the team(most likely Zenio all the time) will try to scrape together a win or two then the powerhouses come in and win games.
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 29 2012 18:50 GMT
#39
Eh I kinda saw liquid being AK'd by zenex, not surprised sucks but hopefully they do better in their next match. Nerves, etc and zenex isn't a bad team at all so I expect the next match to be a lot closer :D
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aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
May 29 2012 18:53 GMT
#40
Too bad for Liquid' ;(
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Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
May 29 2012 19:01 GMT
#41
Kind of angers me that Yughio didn't even get seated on the bench last outing for Slayers. Sure last summer they could use the argument that seats were being given to better players. Though not any more.

Coca over Yughio, yeah ok i understand that. Myia over Yughio, i don't really think this is right, but ill give you a pass since hes just made code A, and could use a game or 2 in the booth. Min over Yughio...TT, what a lack of respect.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 29 2012 19:11 GMT
#42
Zenex is gonna win again vs slayers
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Brosy
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States254 Posts
May 29 2012 19:33 GMT
#43
Hope we get to see MMA tonight, although I think Slayers is deep enough that they may not need him to get by Zenex.
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
May 29 2012 19:34 GMT
#44
On May 30 2012 03:31 z0li wrote:
Jinro was good about 1 year ago, he is retired in my opinion. Haypro same, but never was good. TLO showed some good games but still can`t get even in Code A, so its a B list player to. they can`t compete with the korean teams, with players that fail to get in code A. Hero was the only A list player, who had a bad day, in rest was like espected.


Pretty much. Jinros play was dreadful to say the least. It wasn't only the mutarush, it was a lot of things. Bad scouting, bad hellion control, timings were slightly off the entire game and so on. Lets hope Taeja can help out next time and HerO will look better. They have an OK lineup in zenio, taeja and hero, and if TLO is on form he can squeeze out a win against most players if he chooses map. What I'm really worried about is Jinro or HayprO having to play. Too bad Sheth or Ret aren't there, I feel at least Ret could roach a few players now and again.
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sunneh
Profile Joined June 2011
29 Posts
May 29 2012 19:47 GMT
#45
On May 30 2012 04:01 Cyanocyst wrote:
Kind of angers me that Yughio didn't even get seated on the bench last outing for Slayers. Sure last summer they could use the argument that seats were being given to better players. Though not any more.

Coca over Yughio, yeah ok i understand that. Myia over Yughio, i don't really think this is right, but ill give you a pass since hes just made code A, and could use a game or 2 in the booth. Min over Yughio...TT, what a lack of respect.


haha, i think you're spelling his name wrong though =\
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
May 29 2012 20:09 GMT
#46
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mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
May 29 2012 20:19 GMT
#47
On May 30 2012 03:13 Talin wrote:
It's a good experience, they'll grow as a team and hopefully come back in the future matches. There's no need to over-dramatize the loss, nobody died.

That said, there are some choices by TL management that really rubbed me the wrong way. The decision to split with oGs might make sense in hindsight (given oGs' difficulties / uncertainty whether they'll even play at all), but to participate in a GSTL season with half of the team and two key players missing, on top of it have a third player who's even in Code S go to some random tournament in the US, show up without a leader and a coach on the bench - I'm sorry, but that's just not taking GSTL as seriously as it should have been taken.

Props to the players though, they tried their best and mostly got metagamed/mindgamed rather than straight up defeated. Still keeping the faith for a win vs NSHS.

Hopefully ZeNEX can take SlayerS out too.

Why not participate? And should Taeja avoid chances to win $15,000? Why no name the other people who missed their GSTL matches? Oh and I am pretty damn sure that 5 players together can figure out what order they will go in and who has the best shot in a match. You don't need a coach when you dont have to make that many decisions.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
May 29 2012 20:22 GMT
#48
Pretty painful performance by TL.

At first, I thought Hero lost the game, because he never punished his opponent for his greed in the early game. But Hero restored the faith in me that a protoss can keep toe-on-toe with his zerg opponent via macro (and turtling) strategies. Then at one point, I thought Hero won the game, and we all know what happened then... >.<
Well, if there is one thing to learn from it, it is never blink all your stalkers into the dark on the creep. If you want to snipe infestors, blink a small hitsquad to do so instead.

Jinro's game was painful to watch. Not only was he caught off guard by the quick mutalisk of his opponent, but as soon as his mutas hit, he totally abandoned his hellions, resulting in the incoming waves of zerglings sealing the deal. He also missed to raise the depot to prevent zergling runbys into his main (at least from the second wave onwards, in the initial wave his marines were unluckily blocking it; not that it would've made much difference anyways, the unscouted mutas and the first wave of zerglings won the game).

TLO did put up a great fight, but it was really, really sad to see him slowly facing wave after wave of his opponent, while his units became less and less (due to the queen snipes earlier). No matter what micro you have, this is one battle you cannot win...
andReslic
Profile Joined January 2012
216 Posts
May 29 2012 20:25 GMT
#49
Knew it, TL doesnt have material for GSTL, I think hero is the only one.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 20:40:34
May 29 2012 20:40 GMT
#50
On May 30 2012 04:01 Cyanocyst wrote:
Kind of angers me that Yughio didn't even get seated on the bench last outing for Slayers. Sure last summer they could use the argument that seats were being given to better players. Though not any more.

Coca over Yughio, yeah ok i understand that. Myia over Yughio, i don't really think this is right, but ill give you a pass since hes just made code A, and could use a game or 2 in the booth. Min over Yughio...TT, what a lack of respect.


I think it's because YuGiOh doesn't choose to live at the SlayerS house, and SlayerS rewards players who show the commitment to living at the house with more opportunities?
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Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 21:00:17
May 29 2012 20:51 GMT
#51
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HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
May 29 2012 21:06 GMT
#52
Go Zenex really want to see the underdog win.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
May 29 2012 21:18 GMT
#53
Last night's games were so sad, everyone seemed to playing catchup again Life.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
May 29 2012 21:23 GMT
#54
That was a really depressing GSTL event. I like Life and ZeNEX but I will always be a TL fan and last night was a huge disappointment. I really hope they can show their class against NSH.
I like Slayers and ZeNEX a lot and the matches tonight should be awesome. I hope it'll be 5-4.
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HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
May 29 2012 21:56 GMT
#55
On May 30 2012 05:40 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 04:01 Cyanocyst wrote:
Kind of angers me that Yughio didn't even get seated on the bench last outing for Slayers. Sure last summer they could use the argument that seats were being given to better players. Though not any more.

Coca over Yughio, yeah ok i understand that. Myia over Yughio, i don't really think this is right, but ill give you a pass since hes just made code A, and could use a game or 2 in the booth. Min over Yughio...TT, what a lack of respect.


I think it's because YuGiOh doesn't choose to live at the SlayerS house, and SlayerS rewards players who show the commitment to living at the house with more opportunities?


I thought they fielded players on the basis on in-house rankings.
GunPaladin
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1205 Posts
May 29 2012 22:36 GMT
#56
Slayers has this ezpz.
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LongBow
Profile Joined May 2012
United States265 Posts
May 30 2012 02:15 GMT
#57
I want ZeNEX to win, but have MMA 4-kill, with Line reverse All-killing. That'd be incredible!
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
May 30 2012 06:00 GMT
#58
On May 30 2012 05:40 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 04:01 Cyanocyst wrote:
Kind of angers me that Yughio didn't even get seated on the bench last outing for Slayers. Sure last summer they could use the argument that seats were being given to better players. Though not any more.

Coca over Yughio, yeah ok i understand that. Myia over Yughio, i don't really think this is right, but ill give you a pass since hes just made code A, and could use a game or 2 in the booth. Min over Yughio...TT, what a lack of respect.


I think it's because YuGiOh doesn't choose to live at the SlayerS house, and SlayerS rewards players who show the commitment to living at the house with more opportunities?


From interviews YuGiOh has been living in the SlayerS training house for approximately the last season of GSL at least I believe. Unless he moved back home and I missed that?
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cronichazel
Profile Joined May 2012
United States81 Posts
May 30 2012 06:16 GMT
#59
Liquid really needed Sheth and Taeja in their lineup...
dj_holgie
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany12 Posts
May 30 2012 08:20 GMT
#60
No need to whitewash something. It was not Lifes exceptional strengths in these match ups it was rather Liquids weakness (Hero particularly) which gave him the allkill IMO.
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Z.Aether
Profile Joined December 2011
Spain37 Posts
May 30 2012 09:51 GMT
#61
and Slayers Puzzle is not an interesting and key player from Slayers?
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Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
May 30 2012 10:21 GMT
#62
Pretty one sided...not what i was hoping for.
ZeNEX just better simple as that
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Z.Aether
Profile Joined December 2011
Spain37 Posts
May 30 2012 11:53 GMT
#63
i wonder if Thorzain was there if he play instead of JYP
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GeNeSiDe
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom354 Posts
May 30 2012 18:57 GMT
#64
Sigh....Liquid is definately outgunned in this GSTL IMO...as much as I support them, there's a reason we only ever saw HuK & Hero when oGs-TL was about.

Liquid need to gobble up a few more top-notch players in order to be able to get a win, oGs outcasts like Fin or Supernova would be a great start.

Am I the only one who feels TLO was a MUCH better T than Z? His Z seems weak and he hasn't won anything since switching, despite being a promising T player in beta.
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