EPT[Code S] Semi-Finals Recap + Interviews - Page 6
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BaconofWar
United States369 Posts
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On May 11 2012 20:50 CoR wrote: STOP talking players into namechanges to some rnd names like "turtle king" ... i hope its a joke he has such a cool nickname ,... I see what you did there... :p | ||
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
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LowEloPlayer
United States205 Posts
Mvp is truly the king of mind-games. If he won't beat Squirtle with better play, he'll beat him with better mindgames. After all, this is Squirtle's first finals. It's his first time in GSL Code S. This is Mvp's fifth time in the finals. | ||
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Xiron
Germany1233 Posts
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hillman
United States162 Posts
As for Squirtle changing his name....ever since pokemon I thought "squirtle" sounded like something you did after a rough night of too many tacos... | ||
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fenrysk
United States364 Posts
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crocodile
United States615 Posts
On May 11 2012 12:51 MasterKang wrote: Game 2? 1/1/1 all in? The other games weren't cheese but how is 1/1/1'ing without an expansion not cheese? Because its not an abuse of game mechanics, you're not proxying buildings, its just an aggressive 1 base allin timing push. | ||
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DayWalk3r
Canada192 Posts
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Paragleiber
413 Posts
I really wonder how they came up with that one, since I don't agree with it at all. I would think that most people probably wanted Parting to advance here. | ||
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Scootaloo
655 Posts
On May 11 2012 12:50 jubil wrote: I agree that he didn't use cheese builds, but games 1 and 2 were certainly very risky, if not all-ins - pulling scvs and 1/1/1 In terms of who to root for, they both have compelling stories, but I think I'm more excited for Squirtle...I still remember the first time I played Pokemon Red, I picked squirtle, fun times... Oh I see, 1/1/1 isn't cheese anymore, that makes total sense, just like 4gate right? And at least 4gate actually got nerfed. I find it hard to believe people can still really root for MVP, like the guy hasn't had enough luck in this game. | ||
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Scootaloo
655 Posts
On May 11 2012 22:42 crocodile wrote: Because its not an abuse of game mechanics, you're not proxying buildings, its just an aggressive 1 base allin timing push. Yes, abusing terrans completely broken tech tree is totally not abusing game mechanics right? That's just reserved for things like warpgate or making a lot of roaches. By your definition the only cheese terran can do is proxy rax. | ||
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
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Jongl0
631 Posts
I still think that Squirtle has the upper hand. | ||
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InoyouS2
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Ace1123
Philippines1187 Posts
On May 11 2012 23:08 Scootaloo wrote: Oh I see, 1/1/1 isn't cheese anymore, that makes total sense, just like 4gate right? And at least 4gate actually got nerfed. I find it hard to believe people can still really root for MVP, like the guy hasn't had enough luck in this game. Actually 1/1/1 has been weaken by the Immortal patch way back ago. So is is also weakend pretty bad that almost all toss now knows how to counter it | ||
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Scootaloo
655 Posts
On May 11 2012 23:27 Ace1123 wrote: Actually 1/1/1 has been weaken by the Immortal patch way back ago. So is is also weakend pretty bad that almost all toss now knows how to counter it If a toss can scout it early enough and be greedy enough for the push which time can vary from 8 to 11 minutes then yes, many toss can sort of counter it, if they can both get to the tanks, keep their observers alive and kill the banshee while constantly warping in then tosses can often hold it. All these prequisites though it make it still incredibly hard and statistically unlikely to hold, unlike the 4 gate which has been effectively declawed due to it's very short timing window. Not to mention that whether or not you believe it's strong is completely irrelevant to the subject if it is or isn't a cheese, I'm inclined to say that if you stay on one base for so long or pull the amount of scv's he does it's automatically a cheese. | ||
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Laneir
United States1160 Posts
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Synwave
United States2803 Posts
Thank you for the recap. Looking forward to the finals a bit more now that it wont be PvP. | ||
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Demorase
136 Posts
I mean you gotta do what you gotta do to win, but his run feels kind of cheap imo. You know how it feels, like when Rain reached the finals about a year ago only to get destroyed by MC because he got there by cheesing only and had no idea how to play a real TvP. Now MVP's cheeses are much more elaborate compared to Rain's of course, but they're cheeses nonetheless. | ||
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