EPT[IEM WC] Day 2 Recap - Page 6
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Scrandom
Canada2819 Posts
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moregamethanSEGA
United States76 Posts
those games against Kas were, simply put, embarrassing, no? | ||
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SamsLiST
Germany184 Posts
imo winning tournaments and matches and playing good are two different things. I am not a fanboy at all, but every SC2 player who knows what he he is talking about -has to respect his skills. And I have seen some excellent games out of him and was highly entertained Its rather sadening to see a random EU Protoss 2baseallinning its way to the semis... But hey lets jump on the Stephano train, watch his stream seeing him grinding low tier players on ladder and cups with(out/low) Korean appearance and say he is the best foreign (Zerg) player YAI!!! those games against Kas were, simply put, embarrassing, no? loosing in a somewhat close game vs the (maybe) best foreign Terran on a close to imbalanced map after your mindset got demolished in your worst mu vs 2 Protoss is not really embarrassing game 2 was like 70% bad luck (ov + undetected doubledrop) | ||
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Douillos
France3195 Posts
On March 08 2012 05:53 SamsLiST wrote: I guess some are a little bit unfair about the Gracken... imo winning tournaments and matches and playing good are two different things. I am not a fanboy at all, but every SC2 player who knows what he he is talking about -has to respect his skills. And I have seen some excellent games out of him and was highly entertained Its rather sadening to see a random EU Protoss 2baseallinning its way to the semis... But hey lets jump on the Stephano train, watch his stream seeing him grinding low tier players on ladder and cups with(out/low) Korean appearance and say he is the best foreign (Zerg) player YAI!!! loosing in a somewhat close game vs the (maybe) best foreign Terran on a close to imbalanced map after your mindset got demolished in your worst mu vs 2 Protoss is not really embarrassing game 2 was like 70% bad luck (ov + undetected doubledrop) Yeah second place assembly going 3-0 vs puma was nothing. I'm no fanboy, but you, little man, are a hater. | ||
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greenknight999
69 Posts
On March 08 2012 05:53 SamsLiST wrote: I guess some are a little bit unfair about the Gracken... imo winning tournaments and matches and playing good are two different things. I am not a fanboy at all, but every SC2 player who knows what he he is talking about -has to respect his skills. And I have seen some excellent games out of him and was highly entertained Its rather sadening to see a random EU Protoss 2baseallinning its way to the semis... But hey lets jump on the Stephano train, watch his stream seeing him grinding low tier players on ladder and cups with(out/low) Korean appearance and say he is the best foreign (Zerg) player YAI!!! loosing in a somewhat close game vs the (maybe) best foreign Terran on a close to imbalanced map after your mindset got demolished in your worst mu vs 2 Protoss is not really embarrassing game 2 was like 70% bad luck (ov + undetected doubledrop) No, Idra just blew. Simple as that. As others have said, he is consistently bad. Pity about Dimaga's results, the gameplay was weird but you can't knock it when you see lings+hydras beating colossi+stalkers+HT over multiple engagements. The major thing I've noticed is the low quality of micro in the metagame atm, also most of the dominant players I've seen in this tournament are distinguished by their micro (try to imagine MMA throwing away hellions to small numbers of zlings as I've seen foreigner terrans do etc) Puma was impressive  Tomorrow should be good. | ||
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FlyingDike
United States221 Posts
On March 08 2012 05:44 moregamethanSEGA wrote: can someone tell me why IdrA is so bad now, i just don't get it.... AT ALL. those games against Kas were, simply put, embarrassing, no? He is actually better now than he was before. He has always been bad. | ||
Keone
United States812 Posts
How are virtually all the top Koreans in the top half, and the bottom is all PvP except for 1 ZvZ? Crazy. | ||
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Typhon
United States387 Posts
On March 08 2012 05:53 SamsLiST wrote: But hey lets jump on the Stephano train, watch his stream seeing him grinding low tier players on ladder and cups with(out/low) Korean appearance and say he is the best foreign (Zerg) player YAI!!! http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IGN_ProLeague_Season_3 http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Electronic_Sports_World_Cup_2011 http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IGN_ProLeague_Season_3/Qualifier_3 Seriously? | ||
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DALtyler
Canada10 Posts
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Eurobean
Denmark2 Posts
On March 08 2012 05:53 SamsLiST wrote: I guess some are a little bit unfair about the Gracken... imo winning tournaments and matches and playing good are two different things. I am not a fanboy at all, but every SC2 player who knows what he he is talking about -has to respect his skills. And I have seen some excellent games out of him and was highly entertained Its rather sadening to see a random EU Protoss 2baseallinning its way to the semis... But hey lets jump on the Stephano train, watch his stream seeing him grinding low tier players on ladder and cups with(out/low) Korean appearance and say he is the best foreign (Zerg) player YAI!!! loosing in a somewhat close game vs the (maybe) best foreign Terran on a close to imbalanced map after your mindset got demolished in your worst mu vs 2 Protoss is not really embarrassing game 2 was like 70% bad luck (ov + undetected doubledrop) Stephano is waay better imo.. But everyone to their own opinion. As long as you don't call Stephano an american lol! | ||
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SamsLiST
Germany184 Posts
Douillos France. March 08 2012 06:01. Posts 525 PM Profile Quote # On March 08 2012 05:53 SamsLiST wrote: I guess some are a little bit unfair about the Gracken... imo winning tournaments and matches and playing good are two different things. I am not a fanboy at all, but every SC2 player who knows what he he is talking about -has to respect his skills. And I have seen some excellent games out of him and was highly entertained Its rather sadening to see a random EU Protoss 2baseallinning its way to the semis... But hey lets jump on the Stephano train, watch his stream seeing him grinding low tier players on ladder and cups with(out/low) Korean appearance and say he is the best foreign (Zerg) player YAI!!! Show nested quote + loosing in a somewhat close game vs the (maybe) best foreign Terran on a close to imbalanced map after your mindset got demolished in your worst mu vs 2 Protoss is not really embarrassing game 2 was like 70% bad luck (ov + undetected doubledrop) Yeah second place assembly going 3-0 vs puma was nothing. I'm no fanboy, but you, little man, are a hater. No Stephano is absolutely top tier foreigner. (you have missed my point big man) But sooner or later in defending idrA you have to call him one of the best foreign Zergs - then some wild haters appear and name Stephano (and his lately impressive results) And that comparison is just not justified taking a look on the competitions and the lineups. to convince nowadays you have to grow balls and go to Korea. (Stephano should not - for financial reasons and to not blow up his overratedness -> because if he would ever drop there - the same kids calling IrdA a bad player now would call one Stephano then!° | ||
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
On March 08 2012 06:20 DALtyler wrote: funny thats there's one of each race left in each group Almost correct. I don't see though how there is one of each race in group C? 3 Protosses in fact. | ||
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Crowned
United States368 Posts
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
On March 08 2012 06:28 SamsLiST wrote: No Stephano is absolutely top tier foreigner. (you have missed my point big man) But sooner or later in defending idrA you have to call him one of the best foreign Zergs - then some wild haters appear and name Stephano (and his lately impressive results) And that comparison is just not justified taking a look on the competitions and the lineups. to convince nowadays you have to grow balls and go to Korea. (Stephano should not - for financial reasons and to not blow up his overratedness -> because if he would ever drop there - the same kids calling IrdA a bad player now would call one Stephano then!° There is some truth in what you say. IdrA actually went over to Korea (second time now for SC2) to compete in the toughest leagues of them all - the GSL. I like both Stephano and IdrA, but until Stephano goes over to Korea and gets at least into the Ro16 of Code S I won't think that he is the best foreigner Zerg there is. | ||
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SamsLiST
Germany184 Posts
Typhon United States. March 08 2012 06:16. Posts 355 PM Profile Quote # (Wiki2)IGN ProLeague Season 3 (Wiki2)Electronic Sports World Cup 2011 (Wiki2)IGN ProLeague Season 3/Qualifier 3 Seriously? one single successful run through Code A is harder then all 3 titles together. Seriously! And thats why 2nd tier Koreans leave and the real foreign competitors come to Kor... __________ E: I even would go ahead and call Stephano the best foreign player there is atm. There is still no contradiction to what I have said before. Just do not be unfair and stay objektive about tournament results | ||
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Sylailene
91 Posts
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Argus92
Netherlands93 Posts
On March 08 2012 06:44 SamsLiST wrote: one single successful run through Code A is harder then all 3 titles together. Seriously! And thats why 2nd tier Koreans leave and the real foreign competitors come to Kor... __________ E: I even would go ahead and call Stephano the best foreign player there is atm. There is still no contradiction to what I have said before. Just do not be unfair and stay objektive about tournament results How can you even be fully objective with a game like Starcraft 2, with 3 races and luck being an important factor as well. Also, how is it unfair or not objective? Stephano has played many koreans by now, another example is Blizzard Cup where he managed to play well. Also, how is consistently winning cups (with high level foreigner players, we're talking about the best foreigner Zerg, right?) with many BO1 not saying anything? | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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INTOtheVOID
United States225 Posts
On March 08 2012 03:05 Serimek wrote: Does anyone know why IdrA plays so poorly since a couple of months ? It's gotta be a major mental block that he can't get past. I think he should just switch back to Terran, maybe it would relight his competitive fire. He doesn't seem have that drive anymore. | ||
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GenesisX
Canada4267 Posts
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