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On December 01 2011 17:58 cavalier117 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2011 17:49 Waxangel wrote:On December 01 2011 17:16 cavalier117 wrote:
what about anything else? no talking about the nail biting 4-3 finals? the three EG players in one group? the 2 outta the top 4 being liquid? Seiplo PvPing his way through most of the tourney, including HuK? the player co-casters? Yah, those things happened :o what do you want to hear about them? are you trolling me? i honestly cant tell.... I thought the point of a tournament wrap-up was to review the tournament and highlight interesting events, you gave a production blog that i'm willing to bet few people really care about, a semi ok piece, and another photo gallery to put with the other 4 or 5 we have already seen.
I mean are you saying this in a broader "you are news site, you should have this stuff for an unspecific general audience because I assume they would find so and so topics interesting" sense or because you personally wanted to know about how the tournament went and more detail on so and so topics?
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On December 01 2011 17:49 cavalier117 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2011 17:36 nttea wrote:Hah! i knew eventually TL writing staff would stop outdoing themselves every single time  still much appreciated <3 <3 <3 to be fair, it may partially due to the fact that so MANY big tournaments are going on in such rapid succession NASL starts in one day and they still need to do a preview for that too (not looking likely at this point in time)
NASL preview is easy.
"NASL Season 1 finals were a total disaster saved by the miraculous final games. For the 2nd season NASL have once again picked a worst possibly time slot - a week after DH which as always have up the bar of SC2 events, and place Ontario - which to most people is a clear indication that the venue is in Canada which is not true.. Luckily for them in the last few months there was a event such horrible that would make NASL look good no matter how bad they screw their second live event. Well if there still would be: natural catastrophe, blizzard blacklisting venue IP, trucks running into telecommunication poles (home terrorism.. Might let Obama wage a war againts drunk drivers) they might still knock PPSL from their throne. The ray of hope for NASL is the fact that they have changed a bit of their format so it doesn't punish the winner of the regular season. Also they got so many casters for one stream that each pair will cast like 1.5 match - so if you will be on site the chance of bumbing into a wild Artosis will be ridiculous high. So get the paper and pen ready for some autographs. "
See NASL preview is easy;P
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Great write up, but you made a small error, those energy drinks were Thai  Good to see the photos up, happy I could help in that regard
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On December 01 2011 18:30 UltimateHurl wrote:Great write up, but you made a small error, those energy drinks were Thai Good to see the photos up, happy I could help in that regard
they were a japanese drink's thai retail version
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On December 01 2011 18:02 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2011 17:58 cavalier117 wrote:On December 01 2011 17:49 Waxangel wrote:On December 01 2011 17:16 cavalier117 wrote:
what about anything else? no talking about the nail biting 4-3 finals? the three EG players in one group? the 2 outta the top 4 being liquid? Seiplo PvPing his way through most of the tourney, including HuK? the player co-casters? Yah, those things happened :o what do you want to hear about them? are you trolling me? i honestly cant tell.... I thought the point of a tournament wrap-up was to review the tournament and highlight interesting events, you gave a production blog that i'm willing to bet few people really care about, a semi ok piece, and another photo gallery to put with the other 4 or 5 we have already seen. I mean are you saying this in a broader "you are news site, you should have this stuff for an unspecific general audience because I assume they would find so and so topics interesting" sense or because you personally wanted to know about how the tournament went and more detail on so and so topics?
oh, i apologize
I wouldn't necessarily word the way you did, but i'm sure the general audience would find the events that happened interesting. i was fortunate enough to be able to watch the entire tournament.
Your choice of content to review didn't exactly top the charts of "most talked about things that happened during Dreamhack". at least in this TL lurker's opinion. Then again, i guess i shouldnt complain about what I'm seeing, as i dont help make it.
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On December 01 2011 18:38 cavalier117 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2011 18:02 Waxangel wrote:On December 01 2011 17:58 cavalier117 wrote:On December 01 2011 17:49 Waxangel wrote:On December 01 2011 17:16 cavalier117 wrote:
what about anything else? no talking about the nail biting 4-3 finals? the three EG players in one group? the 2 outta the top 4 being liquid? Seiplo PvPing his way through most of the tourney, including HuK? the player co-casters? Yah, those things happened :o what do you want to hear about them? are you trolling me? i honestly cant tell.... I thought the point of a tournament wrap-up was to review the tournament and highlight interesting events, you gave a production blog that i'm willing to bet few people really care about, a semi ok piece, and another photo gallery to put with the other 4 or 5 we have already seen. I mean are you saying this in a broader "you are news site, you should have this stuff for an unspecific general audience because I assume they would find so and so topics interesting" sense or because you personally wanted to know about how the tournament went and more detail on so and so topics? oh, i apologize I wouldn't necessarily word the way you did, but i'm sure the general audience would find the events that happened interesting. i was fortunate enough to be able to watch the entire tournament. Your choice of content to review didn't exactly top the charts of "most talked about things that happened during Dreamhack". at least in this TL lurker's opinion. Then again, i guess i shouldnt complain about what I'm seeing, as i dont help make it.
I really agree that the topics you wrote would be awesome to read. However, it's OK without them I guess.
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I liked the angle of this write-up. In my opinion, if you want to review the tournament games and how nailbiting the finals were> watch the VODs, a full match report is always awesome but you can't hear the crowd in this stadium through the words of even the best writer, watch them.
Also I like the closing picture <3 송현덕 화이팅!
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On December 01 2011 18:38 cavalier117 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2011 18:02 Waxangel wrote:On December 01 2011 17:58 cavalier117 wrote:On December 01 2011 17:49 Waxangel wrote:On December 01 2011 17:16 cavalier117 wrote:
what about anything else? no talking about the nail biting 4-3 finals? the three EG players in one group? the 2 outta the top 4 being liquid? Seiplo PvPing his way through most of the tourney, including HuK? the player co-casters? Yah, those things happened :o what do you want to hear about them? are you trolling me? i honestly cant tell.... I thought the point of a tournament wrap-up was to review the tournament and highlight interesting events, you gave a production blog that i'm willing to bet few people really care about, a semi ok piece, and another photo gallery to put with the other 4 or 5 we have already seen. I mean are you saying this in a broader "you are news site, you should have this stuff for an unspecific general audience because I assume they would find so and so topics interesting" sense or because you personally wanted to know about how the tournament went and more detail on so and so topics? oh, i apologize I wouldn't necessarily word the way you did, but i'm sure the general audience would find the events that happened interesting. i was fortunate enough to be able to watch the entire tournament. Your choice of content to review didn't exactly top the charts of "most talked about things that happened during Dreamhack". at least in this TL lurker's opinion. Then again, i guess i shouldnt complain about what I'm seeing, as i dont help make it.
No, I don't mean to elicit an apology. It's just that both are valid complaints with very different answers, and I needed to know more to respond.
We're in a strange position in terms of offering 'news' in the general sense, that is reporting events for the sake of relaying information. There are definitely other organizations that place a big focus on that, but at the moment we are definitely not one of them. It's an area we might like to explore, pending an reevaluation of our priorities.
As it relates to your concerns: Certainly, there could have been more things said about the happenings at DH, but we decided to try to get this one before it got lost in the GSL/NASL shuffle. That meant not touching as many bases as we would have liked, but at the same time touching as many bases as we can isn't a top priority at present. Also, there wasn't a terrific amount of interest from writers in touching upon the specific topics from DH, but that's another story.
We went with what we could get in a few days time, and it was probably inadequate for some readers, and I think that was unfortunate. Even though I don't feel we have to talk about everything, and there's no specific 'quota' for articles, I do feel that perhaps there could have been more. Alas, perhaps in later weeks!
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Couldnt't agree with you more waxangel, great read. I wasnt there but followed the stream everyday. And the stage finals really blew me away. DHW11 was by far the best tournament of the year.
P.S as a esport-fan i really appriciate that u bring up the production values and what direction the event takes esports cause that cind stuff really intressts me aswell.
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Thanks for the summary and insight, brief but good.
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TLO is so fucking handsome with his beard.
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Great article!
I was also there, greatly enjoying myself! But there was one kind of big issue, and one smaller issue, that are worth mentioning:
1. Having finals in other games put in between the Starcraft 2 matches made the the whole experience somewhat lose rhythm. I think that for the ultimate hype/sportish/excitement, all the Starcraft 2 matches should be following each other. Other games before or after that. I think that was quite a big mistake by Dreamhack. You don’t wanna see a period of ice hockey in the middle of a football night.
2. Speaking of ice hockey. The Dream Arena was right atop a ice hockey rink. Sitting atop of that with only some wood in between was quite damn cold after a few hours. I believe that this fact contributed to less excitement during the semi finals at least.
Other than that. The event was simply amazing. Can't wait for next Dreamhack invitational (which I am expecting this spring)!
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Was Tod always on your guys radar or were you just not that impressed with him? I knew a little about the guy before hand but I thought his play at this tournament was wonderful and he really showed some true potential.
Just wondering.
EDIT: Fuck, I must have somehow missed the line you discussed ToD in.. because I just read the article a second time and saw it. Sorry, I'm super tired. I take this back. Thanks!! good read.
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On December 01 2011 14:41 TeamLiquid Writers wrote:
God knows we're now dying to see what an IdrA rage moment looks like
Fucking LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.
Now you mentioned it, i'm dying to see it as well!
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On December 01 2011 18:37 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2011 18:30 UltimateHurl wrote:Great write up, but you made a small error, those energy drinks were Thai Good to see the photos up, happy I could help in that regard they were a japanese drink's thai retail version
Yeah? It was all Swedish to me, I just believed what Nick told me and drank (in retrospect a very foolish decision...)
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that picture on stage of hero looking back in disbelief is amazing
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White-Ra's shirt is AMAZING :O Also, great writeup!
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Awesome article, especially loved wax angel's sections.
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photo of hero with his hand over his mouth and the crowd/'her'-posters behind him is amazing.
Well deserved win to an incredibly entertaining player!
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Nice! That white-ra pic with his wife.. LIKE A BOSS
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