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November 24th, 2011 01:35 GMT

A Tale of Two Tournaments


by deezl

They’ve gone and done it. Providence has planted their shiny MLG flag squarely in center of ESPORTS turf. They’ve shown us some epic games that we’re not likely to forget in quite a while. They got their own holiday in Rhode Island (at least this year). It was the culminating point of a year where MLG has established themselves in the minds of many as the gold standard in live event hosting. They host more large scale events with the biggest stars than any other organizer in the west.

Dreamhack Winter 2011
Nov 24 - 26

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It seemed only a short while ago that anyone could host a tournament, but now all respectable ESPORTS events appear to have a minimum tier of production. They require a massive staff and black curtains. The most popular, high profile casters. Player interviews and soundproof booths with doubly soundproof headphones. MLG has been one of the driving force behind that progress. They haven’t stopped moving forward in their relentless march to conquer the American eSports scene, having interests in the live events market, invitational tournaments, and even ESPORTS talk shows. But why am I talking about MLG so much in a DreamHack preview article?

Because now DreamHack Winter wants to plant that same flag for Europe.

Make no mistake about it - Providence was MLG’s Championship, which is America’s championship. DreamHack is Europe’s championship. These are the events where Kings are crowned. One wonders if MLG was intentionally throwing down the gauntlet when they planned their event just a week before DreamHack's traditional date in the last week of November. If one side puts out a better show, with more fireworks, more iconic moments or more great games than the other, everyone will know. This is the battle of two championships - USA’s season finals vs. Europe’s premier event.

It's an interesting scenario. DreamHack Winter 2010 salvaged what was an otherwise lackluster year for ESPORTS, and laid the groundwork for what a live event in the West should be. Ever since, every organization in the West had followed DreamHack's lead, including one Major League Gaming who had a runaway 2011 season after adapting the basic quality standards set by DreamHack. DreamHack Summer 2011 was another phenomenal tournament, but MLG fired back stronger than ever. In a way, it's the classic story of the once pupil challenging the master, in order to show that he has been surpassed.

Both events boast formidable line-ups, with multiple champions and near-champions competing. While MLG Providence loaded up on Korean talent, DreamHack Winter 2011 is where the best European players will be playing (sadly enough, it looks like we will have to wait until 2012 to see the best of EU and KR playing under one roof). Though skilled players such as Leenock, Ganzi, and Oz will surely be missed, consider some of the players who will be exclusively at DreamHack: White-Ra ♦ Stephano ♦ MaNa ♦ SaSe ♦ Sen ♦ Kas ♦ Grubby ♦ Nerchio ♦ ThorZaIN.

Also, let's not forget that with a massive RO64 group stage that takes up about 70% of the alphabet, another group stage in the RO32, and finally a sick baller elimination tournament, this is a tournament where everyone has a meager but equal chance - a marked departure from MLG’s seed-everyone-the-hell-up strategy.

In addition to the abundance of video that’s going to be streamed, many players will recognize the casting committee. Another dose of Tastosis, hell yeah! MrBitter will be back as well, and Day[9] - who missed Providence to go on best man duty - sure isn’t missing an event as big as DreamHack. Finally, it's befitting that England's dApollo and TotalBiscuit will be casting at DreamHack, compared to the American duo of djWheat and Husky at MLG. Wheat and Husky are industry veterans over here in the states, but TB and Apollo have quickly become the casting royalty of the UK. Apollo details the overarching themes in easy to grasp but effective language, and TotalBiscuit handles the play-by-play with his rapid fire, sportscaster style. And those are only the official English stream casters. Alongside these guys you can expect some of the best casting in various European languages as well - a standard at DH events.

But what kind of crowd response can we expect? It's a fact: American fans make noise. It's rumored that MLG booths are made of concrete and reinforced with steel, carbon fiber and Kevlar, but you can still see a little dust falling from the ceiling when MMA wins a match. Just the sight of Boxer, MVP, or MarineKingPrime is enough to turn a room of grown men into a throng of screaming fanboys, trampling over chairs, teddy bears, other attendees and small children to get a chance for pictures and autographs.

Of course, EU fans are no slouches either. Given the opportunity, they will converge upon any deserving ESPORTS event and make their presence felt. The problem is that Europeans have lacked the kind of pure ESPORTS venue that MLG provides. While any IEM event in Germany can draw a massive crowd, it's still limited by the larger trade show it's attached to. Along similar lines, DreamHack at its core is really about the ten thousand plus gamers that come to LAN it up, despite its reputation for running top notch ESPORTS tournaments as well.

This time, DreamHack has prepared a 4,000 seat 'DreamArena,' which really shows their commitment the live audience aspect of ESPORTS. European crowds have already been formidable, but this will be a chance to see what they can really do when given a pure ESPORTS environment.

So this is a call to all you Europeans who are lucky enough to be there: Get loud for Starcraft! I expect to hear non-stop shouts, cheers, jeers and every kind of noise for your favorite players. I want to hear what four thousand Starcraft fans sound like. I want Denmark to file an international noise complaint. The DreamHack staff is trying to put the best ever live ESPORTS experience Europe has ever seen, so show your appreciation and get loud!

It comes down to this: DreamHack Winter can be the best event of the year, or it can be the second best event of the year.

Hayproview

By: Liquid`Haypro and Liquid`TLO*


*With massive amounts of help from SirJolt and grnp

We (WaxAngel, SirJolt, and grnp) were sitting around at a net cafe in Jönköping, wondering what to do for DreamHack Winter coverage. Some ideas were tossed around, but nothing seemed to be very interesting. There was no real way around it: After covering a few dozen tournaments, we were stuck for fresh and creative ways to preview tournaments. That, and we really didn't feel like profiling 64 players.

So we got HayprO do it for us instead.




SCENE 1. A PC Bang, Jönköping, the night before Dreamhack.



Group A – Thorzain, Select, Abver, Kaeru



HayprO: Well, I don’t know who Kaeru is; I don’t think I’ve played him on the ladder. I think, as far as I know, Thorzain and Select for first and second, it depends on who wins, between them, for first place. Abver might have a small chance if they have a bad day, but I’m pretty sure it’s going to be Thorzain.

TL: So you think Abver is good?

HayprO: He is pretty okay, I think, but I’m not really sure.



Group B – Puma, NightEnd, Osho, NaRa



HayprO: For Group B, Puma’s gonna get first, I’m very sure, and for second place it’s gonna be-

[Enter stage left TLO]

TLO: NightEnd or Osho

HayprO: It depends who wins

TLO has arrived and decided that his views are at least as important as HayprO’s

TL: Do you know who NaRa is?

TLO: No...

HayprO: Nara is another player- I don’t know who he is.



Group C – Mana, Goody, Orly, RunA



HayprO: Mana top two for sure and I think that the other three all have a pretty good chance to make top two.

TLO: I agree.

HayprO: And Goody can make it, but he can also just fail. RunA has a good chance too and Orly also. It depends; if Goody plays well he will make top two, if he has a good day, but otherwise both Orly and RunA can make it.



Group D – White Ra, PhoeNix, ClouD, ViprO



HayprO: ClouD was really bad lately, but I’d still go with White Ra and Cloud. PhoeNix can make it if he all-ins ClouD or something.

TLO: I like ViprO; I think he’s a big HayprO fan.

HayprO: I don’t know who ViprO is...

TLO: He’s Swedish and he’s almost got your name! So he’s probably very good, he could beat MVP.

HayprO: I can’t go with him anyway... I think I have to go with White Ra and ClouD.



Group E – Stephano, SjoW, Bischu, DBS



HayprO: Stephano, SjoW.

TLO: I think Stephano definitely first, then SjoW and Bischu...

HayprO: That’s actually a hard group; Stephano will be first, I’m pretty sure, unles SjoW has a really good day, then he would be able to beat Stephano, I think. SjoW versus Bischu is gonna be very close; SjoW has much more experience in tournaments so he’ll most likely win, but skillwise I think they’re very close.

TL: Okay, and DBS is...?

HayprO: DBS is a terran that- he’s not bad, but I think he has special builds that have to work for him for him to win games.

TLO: I think DBS could pull some good stuff. He’s more likely to beat Bischu than SjoW.



Group F – DongRaeGu, LaLush, SarenS, StarEagle



TLO: That’s really hard to call, because-

HayprO: DongRaeGu is going to go first, LaLush is pretty good ZvZ-

TLO: But he hasn’t played like, I haven’t-

HayprO: StarEagle, I think might-

TLO: Yeah, I’d go with DongRaeGu and StarEagle. It sounds weird, but he has some weird builds too, to be honest. He has like... weird macro builds, not weird cheese builds.



Group G – Nerchio, HayprO, Naama, Kenzy



TLO: Group G obviously has insane ZvZ; HayprO beat Nestea, so Nerchio and Kenzy aren’t going to be a problem.

HayprO: I’d go with myself and Nerchio, to be honest.

TL: Who’s first, you or Nerchio?

HayprO: Ahh... Nerchio has pretty good ZvZ, he 2:0’d Ret pretty easy. I think it will depend on just who has a better day tomorrow.

TLO: Kenzy could make an upset; it’s not impossible. For Nama, the nice thing for him is that he has three zergs in his group, so he only really needs to practice TvZ. If you play fifty double barracks in a row, you will be better at it than your normal condition...



Group H – SaSe, Adelscott, merz, SortOf



TLO: I don’t know SortOf.

HayprO: Yeah, he is a Brood War player.

TLO: Is he... SortOf good?

HayprO: SaSe first, I’m very, very sure. Second will be about whether or not merz can beat Adelscott.

TLO: It’s about how well merz can defend against a six gate...

HayprO: So merz could make second place.



Group I – NaNiWa, Happy, Beastyqt, Ciara



HayprO: NaNiWa will get first and second place will be decided by who wins between Happy and Beasty.

TLO: I’d go with Beasty... because I think Happy is really bad. He’s very predictable, always the same thing, but Happy and Beasty are both on the same team, so it’s good for Beasty if Happy always does the same stuff.

HayprO: Mmmmm, yeah, it’s possible. I think Beasty is a better player, but both are Terrans that play kinda similar.

TLO: But I think Beasty plays it more refined; he plays less fear and more refined. For me he’s a strong favourite.



Group J – HerO, TLO, StjarNaN, Seiplo



TLO: Well, HerO probably first.

HayprO: HerO first.

HayprO: Dario at least only needs to prepare ZvP.

TLO: That’s the thing; I can’t practice with HerO, that sucks.

HayprO: It depends on how good Dario’s ZvP is, if it’s good then he’ll get out of it.

TLO: The random new guy, do you know how good he is?

HayprO: I’ve played him on the ladder, Seiplo is better.

TLO: I should make it to second, but my ZvP is so... sometimes I own at it and sometimes it sucks. It depends how he plays, but he’s more aggressive, I think.

HayprO: Just the normal one-gate expansion-

TLO: One-gate expansion!?

HayprO: Yeah, then make gateways, move out into the middle of the map with sentries. Seiplo is kind of the same, I think he has a better late game, I assume.



Group K – Sheth, ToD, MoMaN, Fuzer



TLO: Sheth should really make it first.

HayprO: I think.... ToD is pretty good, but it’s Sheth and ToD 100%.

TL: So the other players just don’t have a chance?

HayprO: No, I don’t think so...



Group L – Ret, Fenix, Cytoplasm, DaBoO



Passerby: Oh, this is the good Fenix.

TLO: Yeah, I wouldn’t say good.

TL: Well, he’s been in Korea for quite a while.

TLO: Oh, I didn’t notice...

HayprO: If Fenix wasn’t in Korea I’d say Ret and Cyto immediately.

TLO: I think Fenix is very- he reminds me of me a little bit; he plays with very unstable builds.

HayprO: I think Ret and it depends how good Fenix is. If Fenix hasn’t improved... he only has to practice TvZ. Actually, Cytoplasm beat Thorzain in a Swedish tournament 2:0, like a month ago... so this is a very good group for him. If Fenix is good it could be between Ret, Fenix and Cyto. If Fenix is bad then it’s just Ret and Cyto.



Group M – Idra, Kas, Forsen, Jimpo



TLO: Idra and kas first and second

TL: Does Jimpo stand a chance at all in this group?

HayprO: Last Dreamhack he won vs IdrA actually, and he beat HuK at Assembly Summer. Yeah, he could make it, but IdrA seems to be really good lately, winning almost everything.

TL: But can he beat kas and Forsen?

HayprO: TvT is harder I think, but yeah, Forsen he will probably beat. I think kas is gonna practice harder for this after Battle in Berlin. I still go with IdrA and kas but Jimpo has a slight upset chance.



Group N – Sen, Grubby, DeathAngel, DeVil



TLO: next group is gonna be pretty clear between sen and grubby

HayprO: grubby's only gonna practice pvz so he's top 2 for sure with no problems, and sen is too good to not pass the group. It's a shame for DeathAngel though, I feel that he could make it in a different group. DeViL is pretty good, I remember him from Brood War, he liked to make ‘lings.

TL: Like octzerg?

HayprO: Yeah, octzerg too.



Group O – HuK, Tarson, TitaN, Naugrim



Hayder: HuK and Naugrim.

Dario: TitaN is not bad, he's won some weekly cups.

TL: He beat Adelscott, Gandi and Kenzy in the qualifier, lost to Phoenix in the finals.

Hayder: Yeah I still go with Naugrim and HuK.



Group P – Genius, elfi, PredY, ReaL



TLO: That’s actually a lucky group for elfi, only having Protoss...

HayprO: I have no idea who ReaL is, he’s a Korean I think? One of the Koreans in Germany? So then I’ll go with Genius and elfi. I think elfi first and Genius second.

TLO: Elfi is very good PvT and PvP, and Genius is Korean. So I think it’s pretty easy.

HayprO: I’d probably go with Genius and then ReaL.

TLO: Elfi has such good PvP, but if the Koreans look a little bit at his game...



Any thoughts on the Maps and the Tournament?



HayprO: It's good maps for Zerg. Nothing to complain, pretty standard. It's all the correct versions, good map pool, no Xel'Naga.

I think it's pretty good, it's almost the same as double elimination, so it's good. The only thing I don't like is how the maps are going to be decided; it's going to be randomized for the first map, which is very stupid. When they have seven maps, they should always have the players veto two maps each and randomize the three maps that remain. They started smart, they finished strange.

The money is nice, I think first place gets too much. I think 50% is too much for first place. I think more like 35% is much better.

TL: Sixteen players to go to playoffs?

HayprO: Puma, Sjow, Select, Sen, Nerchio, Sheth, Ret, Me, IdrA, Stephano, Naniwa, HerO, HuK, Mana, Grubby, SaSe. I picked neither Happy nor Beasty, but I think they could make it... I picked many Zergs, it's strange, but that's what I think. I think there's just more good Zergs in this tournament.


TL: Are you happy or sad about there being fewer Koreans?

HayprO: Well we just had MLG, so I'm happy we didn't have as many Koreans again.

This tournament is going to be easier of course, but not easy. There's a lot of good players like I mentioned above. Oh Shit that's just the invite player list. Okay, let's see:

ThorZain, DongRaeGu, HuK, for sure.

Sen, Sheth, Naniwa, HerO, Elfi or Genius, I think one of them will make it, Nerchio, Ret, Me I hope, Kas, Grubby will make it, he's getting really good, Sase, Puma, Idra, Sjow, Stephano, Mana, Select, yeah. Those players, that's what I think. Okay.

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SirJolt
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
the Dagon Knight4002 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 01:39:35
November 24 2011 01:37 GMT
#2
Dearest WaxAngel,

Thank you for challenging me to both write and then respond to a post at this speed.

Love always,

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Sliver
Profile Joined April 2010
United States402 Posts
November 24 2011 01:40 GMT
#3
Have more liquid player do these. TLO and Haypro discussing players is fun to read.
UltimateHurl
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland591 Posts
November 24 2011 01:40 GMT
#4
I was there, I can testify it all happened just as they say (except with more cursing). Good work
DrakanSilva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Chile932 Posts
November 24 2011 01:41 GMT
#5
I've been told that fenix lost his flight due to sickness (he's at the hospital right now).

Is he really being able to play ? because today he was supposed to play major for the http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/LASL and the game has been postponed due to this problem because online tournaments can be more flexible than offline tournaments and even more in regions were eSport ain't as developed as other places.

If someone can confirm this.
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RoninShogun
Profile Joined November 2010
United States315 Posts
November 24 2011 01:42 GMT
#6
Really digging the Haypro feature after such a big weekend for him, he seems pretty confident on most of his picks, too. Though I dont see why he would want less Koreans after such a showing
Artosis: Yeah I was gonna probe rush but someone did that yesterday
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
November 24 2011 01:42 GMT
#7
oh noes! the html!
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
November 24 2011 01:46 GMT
#8
It was great to have a preview but it could have been more redacted because it's very hard to follow the thoughts of TLO and Haypro.
Laxx
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia61 Posts
November 24 2011 01:46 GMT
#9
Excellent write up as usual. I'm totally biased of course, but I really like SaSe's chances. He's got a really easy group and as long as he doesn't run into Sen or DongRaeGu, he could seriously own face.
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redoxx
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States333 Posts
November 24 2011 01:48 GMT
#10
I really hope HayprO does well. It would be great for his run to continue so his confidence can rise even more. His play at Providence was so much more solid than I'm used to seeing from his tournament play. I want Hero to do well in this tournament too, he definitely deserves it.
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IMLyte
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada714 Posts
November 24 2011 01:49 GMT
#11
It's nice to see a pro's point of view on groups, great write up!
I <3 HayprO hope he does well again this tournament
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juked
Profile Joined May 2010
United States691 Posts
November 24 2011 01:51 GMT
#12
Haha. I really liked this with the back and forth. And nice signature jolt
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
November 24 2011 01:51 GMT
#13
great writeup, thinking it in HayprO and TLO's voices make it that much better
TheCtd400
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States136 Posts
November 24 2011 01:51 GMT
#14
LOVE IT!!!! Dario randomly comes in the equation and awesomeness ensues.
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MonkSEA
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia1227 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 01:53:28
November 24 2011 01:52 GMT
#15
Reading it on a broken format was a lot less epic then reading it with it's format correct I wish I refreshed after you fixed your broken CSS thingy :<

But wow, HayprO and TLO picking some players I've never heard of to take 2nd in the groups? They're pretty confident about it(Naugrim, Cytoplasm for example).

I'll definently be tuning in to see how well these players do.
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DreamScaR
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada2127 Posts
November 24 2011 01:53 GMT
#16
I think this has to be one of my favorite previews done by TL, it's something we haven't seen before and their insight is awesome.
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OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
November 24 2011 01:58 GMT
#17
Gogogo Sweden! Going to be so much fun casting the finals of this tour!
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Hallayz
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway26 Posts
November 24 2011 01:58 GMT
#18
Great stuff!
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
November 24 2011 01:59 GMT
#19
HayprO doesn't think TLO will make it to playoff...and TLO was right there.
Polarexia
Profile Joined November 2010
United States383 Posts
November 24 2011 02:00 GMT
#20
HAYPRO HAYPRO!
Zilir
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden47 Posts
November 24 2011 02:03 GMT
#21
Really love the article. Haypro and TLO discussing the players must've been awesome to listen to.
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 02:07:55
November 24 2011 02:06 GMT
#22
HayprO's analysis of the first few groups made me laugh. It was like he was sitting on a fence that was on top of another fence.

Also I'm glad to see SirJolt traveling to DH, will he be competing in the BYOC pro-posting tournament?
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
November 24 2011 02:10 GMT
#23
I actually enjoyed this because there are a lot of no names in the tournament, so it makes sense to have players give their insight, since they have actually seen games of these players.
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qke
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden60 Posts
November 24 2011 02:14 GMT
#24
Kinda mindboggling that Dreamhack are competing for the best SC2 event of the year when they already are the best QL,CS,MOBA event of the year.
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
November 24 2011 02:21 GMT
#25
gogo kas and beastyqt!
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Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
November 24 2011 02:24 GMT
#26
why Clide
-Terran-
xajukx
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada325 Posts
November 24 2011 02:26 GMT
#27
Hoping HerO continues to build momentum from MLG, this could be his tournament.
monkey5476
Profile Joined January 2011
United States133 Posts
November 24 2011 02:27 GMT
#28
Don't count Moman out!
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
November 24 2011 02:42 GMT
#29
so fucking many groups and each of them has good players...
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
November 24 2011 02:43 GMT
#30
It's too early for Americans too wake up early for and too late to stay up for, dammit! oh well.
Craminit
Profile Joined June 2011
United States58 Posts
November 24 2011 02:45 GMT
#31
no prediction for whos going to take it all?
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
November 24 2011 02:59 GMT
#32
[DeViL is pretty good, I remember him from Brood War, he liked to make ‘lings.

TL: Like octzerg?

HayprO: Yeah, octzerg too.


Haha, that was random.

Too bad there are no Firebats any more.
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
November 24 2011 03:02 GMT
#33
Fun preview style, although the tone in my head was a little BM. I'm sure they're just having fun while being objective and critical.

I hope I catch some of the matches. Last DHW was ridiculously awesome.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
fireproofazn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States231 Posts
November 24 2011 03:06 GMT
#34
damn TL is gonna do so much work. glgl :DDD
Terran<Protoss<Zerg
Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
November 24 2011 03:06 GMT
#35
Is he... SortOf good?

Oh, TLO. Nice write-up.
Shhh. I think DH will be better than MLG providence (hero didn't win grumble grumble).
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
November 24 2011 03:15 GMT
#36
Liquid fighting!
Beren
Profile Joined June 2010
United States514 Posts
November 24 2011 03:20 GMT
#37
I just have a feeling there will be a lot of upsets... I really enjoyed the write-up as always! Thanks and love the back and forth from Haypro/TLO
Attilanator
Profile Joined March 2011
United States154 Posts
November 24 2011 03:20 GMT
#38
This is so good! I normally love the writing that you guys do for the previews (cause you're awesome) but this player back and forth thing is a great idea. More often pls.
MC | HuK | TLO |WhiteRa | Tyler | DIMAGA | Naniwa | Boxer | Strelok | HerO Hwaiting!
Tomazi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom158 Posts
November 24 2011 03:21 GMT
#39
On November 24 2011 10:59 ninjamyst wrote:
HayprO doesn't think TLO will make it to playoff...and TLO was right there.


I wonder if haypro was just trolling TLO
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ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
November 24 2011 03:25 GMT
#40
Go HayprO! Hopefully DH will be able to pull off great things for eSports in europe!
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
s3183529
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia707 Posts
November 24 2011 03:29 GMT
#41
So many groups, damn.
Wockets
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong467 Posts
November 24 2011 03:49 GMT
#42
HayprO <3
Banjo fighting GOGOGO!
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
November 24 2011 03:54 GMT
#43
cmon sen. no more coming third!
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
November 24 2011 04:00 GMT
#44
Random passerby is random O_o

Interesting write up though.
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Psyon67
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8 Posts
November 24 2011 04:00 GMT
#45
Haha, some good old-fashioned laziness :p Still a great write-up, can't wait for this competition!
FILM
Profile Joined September 2010
United States663 Posts
November 24 2011 04:15 GMT
#46
Haybro holding down interviews like a baus.
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how
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States538 Posts
November 24 2011 04:21 GMT
#47
I liked this quite a lot ^_^
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AIOL!
Profile Joined January 2011
France962 Posts
November 24 2011 04:23 GMT
#48
The group with Beastyqt and Happy is such a shame, same with stephano's group, i think Bishu is always underestimated.
Stephano!!!!!!/Nerchio/Mana/Hasuobs/Grubby/Kas/Tarson/Sarens/Goody/BeastyCury
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 24 2011 04:41 GMT
#49
Lol I would like to see the video of TLO just walking into the interview XD
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Comprissent
Profile Joined September 2010
United States314 Posts
November 24 2011 04:49 GMT
#50
Hmm, each group just sounds like two shoo-ins and two no-names
Hopefully we can see some good upsets
He's French-Canadian, so he's gonna do fast expand into stupid zealot timing into something else gay
Mario1209
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1077 Posts
November 24 2011 04:53 GMT
#51
great read =D!
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catleaves
Profile Joined December 2010
United States506 Posts
November 24 2011 04:55 GMT
#52
love reading the new format! :D
^^
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
November 24 2011 04:58 GMT
#53
Genius wins this tournament. Nice writeup as always.
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
November 24 2011 05:01 GMT
#54
lol that was cool.
gogo BANJO!!!
Long live the Boss Toss!
Tremor
Profile Joined February 2010
United States92 Posts
November 24 2011 05:17 GMT
#55
I love this style of preview, amazing work
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aNDRoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States637 Posts
November 24 2011 05:31 GMT
#56
This is fantastic. Only thing that would make it better is if someone was filming the whole thing and we could watch it on youtube.
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legendre20
Profile Joined November 2010
United States316 Posts
November 24 2011 05:55 GMT
#57
Jeeeez that's a lot of groups.. I loved TLO's and HayprO's back and forth rofl, great write up. I have absolutely no idea who I'm pulling for right now though.. so many good players!!
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Paragleiber
Profile Joined June 2009
413 Posts
November 24 2011 06:01 GMT
#58
Sarens has always been underestimated but I am surprised that they don't see Tarson coming out of his group.
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HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
November 24 2011 06:05 GMT
#59
Great write-up I actually 100% agree with TLO predictions I just dont think he gonna make it sadly
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
November 24 2011 06:06 GMT
#60
On November 24 2011 15:01 Paragleiber wrote:
Sarens has always been underestimated but I am surprised that they don't see Tarson coming out of his group.


Tarson is inactive havent really played.
Teim
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia373 Posts
November 24 2011 06:16 GMT
#61
God damn it Clide!
A duck is a duck!
michielbrands
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1146 Posts
November 24 2011 06:28 GMT
#62
Thnx HayprO & TLO, for these cool, fun & intresting insights !
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ShootingStars
Profile Joined August 2010
1475 Posts
November 24 2011 06:30 GMT
#63
haypro gonna get 3rd with no streamed games again LOL
Deezl
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States355 Posts
November 24 2011 07:04 GMT
#64
Clide woulda won.

Shoutout to Wax for fast editing
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itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
November 24 2011 07:08 GMT
#65
On November 24 2011 10:35 TeamLiquid Writers wrote:


Make no mistake about it - Providence was MLG’s Championship, which is America’s championship. DreamHack is Europe’s championship. These are the events where Kings are crowned. One wonders if MLG was intentionally throwing down the gauntlet when they planned their event just a week before DreamHack's traditional date in the last week of November. If one side puts out a better show, with more fireworks, more iconic moments or more great games than the other, everyone will know. This is the battle of two championships - USA’s season finals vs. Europe’s premier event.


USA! Go Amurica!

Anyway, good write up, I liked the banter between TLO and Haypro. Its nice having a..... prospective + Show Spoiler +
see that.. see what I did there
=)=
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
November 24 2011 07:09 GMT
#66
TLO: fenix plays very unstable laughed a bit about that lol

also: why is everyone overrating haypro so much? because he won A zvz vs NesTea who had already played like 15 bo3s that weekend?
TLO: Happy is just really bad (because he always plays the same)

while it is true that happy always plays the same thing TLO is not in a positions to call any other pro player bad since he would probably get beaten
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
November 24 2011 07:12 GMT
#67
Yeah Happy is very robotic, wish he would improve but he seems stuck doing the same stuff over and over. That being said, he is better than TLO.

Gargara
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania150 Posts
November 24 2011 07:27 GMT
#68
GO DeathAngel and NightEnd.
Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
November 24 2011 07:48 GMT
#69
Haypro has to unleash the same can of whoopass like he did at MLG!
MHT
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1026 Posts
November 24 2011 07:57 GMT
#70
Can someone fix that lower half? I want to read it badly but Im afraid ill go blind if I do.
bbm
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1320 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 08:00:12
November 24 2011 07:59 GMT
#71
I think I'll probably skip the ro64 and come back for the ro32 groups, which look like they will be stacked as fuck. ro64 is just too balanced, two decent players in every group.
By.Sun or By.Rain, he always delivers
bagtab
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden14 Posts
November 24 2011 08:20 GMT
#72
has to go to scool and miss half of the groupplay.... this sucks=(
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3805 Posts
November 24 2011 08:24 GMT
#73
So sad that the only Danish player (Ciara, who you might remember from TSL3 vs MC) is in the group with NaNiWa, Happy and Beastyqt, probably one of the hardest groups
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MavivaM
Profile Joined November 2011
1535 Posts
November 24 2011 08:29 GMT
#74
Don't really agree with TLO about Happy being bad, if not only because Happy had better results than TLO according to the TLPD.
Especially if we exclude showmatches and consider actual tournaments.
Also I find it strange that he speaks of Fenix as bad, but maybe it's because I've seen his GSTL games and he didn't.

Agree with them about StarEagle: I've seen his play and he has potential, also he can play terran unconventionally.
Let's see if it works, especially against an unprepared DRG!
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NekoFlandre
Profile Joined March 2011
United States497 Posts
November 24 2011 08:48 GMT
#75
Cannot WAIT for Dreamhack in what 15 minuites?!

GO GO Haypro GO GO TLO

Awww hell GO GO STEPHANO!

Ro4 Hope! Haypro / TLO / Stephano / White-Ra (Barring I haven't seen any group / brackets so)
Kitty Flandre....even more scary..
KazKamasa
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden186 Posts
November 24 2011 08:54 GMT
#76
FML got to work >.<
Sweden fighting! Naugrim will be #1 !
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pestilenz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Denmark379 Posts
November 24 2011 08:56 GMT
#77
Nice solution to your "lack of ideas" - or whatever to call it keke
HayprO is always to funny when he answers questions, even though it is not his intention - do something similar to this another time! ~^^~
You can attack with this?!
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 08:56:43
November 24 2011 08:56 GMT
#78
On November 24 2011 15:06 HappyChris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 15:01 Paragleiber wrote:
Sarens has always been underestimated but I am surprised that they don't see Tarson coming out of his group.


Tarson is inactive havent really played.


Also, Tarson has been replaced by Flo who has been replaced by Seala, the groups here are not the final versions.
Aurorajp
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada43 Posts
November 24 2011 09:03 GMT
#79
HuK gogo
sup son
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
November 24 2011 09:09 GMT
#80
Here we go so many streams http://www.dreamhack.tv/
COLT217
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany70 Posts
November 24 2011 09:13 GMT
#81
GOGO Team Type II !!!

Phoenix, Real and DBS will show that they are Pros, too! They all can make it to the top!
"[race] is so IMBA! - for [race] fill in the last one, you lost against. But be carefull of mirrormatchups!"
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
November 24 2011 09:16 GMT
#82
Great format, thanks!
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
November 24 2011 09:18 GMT
#83
Did Mr.bitter kick out the internet cable?
Swap
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden144 Posts
November 24 2011 09:36 GMT
#84
Maybe not your best coverage, but entertaining at least
he he... ja
SoJu.WeRRa
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)820 Posts
November 24 2011 09:58 GMT
#85
Great writeup! Hope Frenchies gonna do well in this DH Winter!
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Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
November 24 2011 10:23 GMT
#86
Its....anti-climactic.

I will still watch though, sorta like the x-factor.
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ZooG
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden618 Posts
November 24 2011 10:23 GMT
#87
Team Liquid fighting!~
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StrinterN
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark531 Posts
November 24 2011 10:37 GMT
#88
Great stuff as always!!
Poor tasteless
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Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
November 24 2011 11:04 GMT
#89
I think HayprO has pretty solid bets, would be cool to see haypro top 3 this event.

For the finals however my bet is deffinetly: Naniwa versus Stephano
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FishStix
Profile Joined April 2010
United States425 Posts
November 24 2011 11:05 GMT
#90
BANJOOOO HWAITING

No srsly, I'm sitting here in the TwitchTV player lounge next to TLO, Stephano, the Banjo himself, and others. What should I do now TL?
I do stuff in eSports
impression
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
413 Posts
November 24 2011 11:25 GMT
#91
This is the best preview. I laughed
행운을 빌어요 재미
Paladia
Profile Joined August 2003
802 Posts
November 24 2011 11:26 GMT
#92
Was a nice read for sure but I am surprised TLO and Haypro didn't know more of the Swedish players attending considering their involvement in the Swedish scene.

Players like Stjarnan, Cytoplasm or Naugrim may not be very well known in the international community but all three of them are aiming to become fulltime pro and as such play at least eight hours per day. Especially Stjarnan may not be good enough to make any major impact yet but all three of them could certainly win against some top competition.

Then you have players like Jimpo, Seiplo, Runa or SortOf who are certainly no cakewalks. I think we'll definitely see a few upsets, especially considering how little people seem to know about some of these players. Thorzain hasn't done as well as expected lately though, which is very unfortunate as he is likely the most popular Swedish player.
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
November 24 2011 12:06 GMT
#93
that they give phoenix absolutely no chance against cloud shows that they are currently not in touch with the scene they are currently living in. more opens, less invitationals!
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
November 24 2011 12:31 GMT
#94
On November 24 2011 21:06 JustPassingBy wrote:
that they give phoenix absolutely no chance against cloud shows that they are currently not in touch with the scene they are currently living in. more opens, less invitationals!

+ Show Spoiler +
at the time of your post phoenix is 0-3
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Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
November 24 2011 12:33 GMT
#95
The article swaps between referring to TLO and Dario once or twice. (im assuming there wasn't another dario around)

Otherwise great writeup, I like the interview/discussion style.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
November 24 2011 12:43 GMT
#96
On November 24 2011 21:31 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 21:06 JustPassingBy wrote:
that they give phoenix absolutely no chance against cloud shows that they are currently not in touch with the scene they are currently living in. more opens, less invitationals!

+ Show Spoiler +
at the time of your post phoenix is 0-3


I stand corrected.
Krogan
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden375 Posts
November 24 2011 13:03 GMT
#97
As we can all see socialism is a far better for a tournament system then capitalism and not just for equality and economy. Please adapt this tournament system next year MLG we know you have been raised to make rich people richer but its just not as much fun to watch. (not sure why this became a political rant)
RageCommodore
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany912 Posts
November 24 2011 13:03 GMT
#98
DBS gets no broadcastet match?
Also, Goody ;w;
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Fatze
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1342 Posts
November 24 2011 13:10 GMT
#99
nice writeup <3
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Bamm
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden279 Posts
November 24 2011 13:26 GMT
#100
Really cool readup, ty<3
Bamm and the dirt is gone!
razrrr
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany15 Posts
November 24 2011 13:57 GMT
#101
TLO: I’d go with Beasty... because I think Happy is really bad. He’s very predictable, always the same thing, but Happy and Beasty are both on the same team, so it’s good for Beasty if Happy always does the same stuff.


If Happy is bad, TLO is the worst player on earth.
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
November 24 2011 14:30 GMT
#102
They don't think Tarson can make it out his group?
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
November 24 2011 14:41 GMT
#103
TLO is like Barney Stinson. True story.

I like how TLO is not mentioned by Haypro in the final list. TLO was good at really entertaining. Hope to see some weird builds and games from him.
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RespectTheNerd
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden64 Posts
November 24 2011 15:08 GMT
#104
its so fun to see soo many swedish players shows that the swedish championship is actually working well.
Its fun to hear haypro´s thoughts on the players too do more off these in the future.
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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 15:12:18
November 24 2011 15:11 GMT
#105
On November 24 2011 22:57 razrrr wrote:
Show nested quote +
TLO: I’d go with Beasty... because I think Happy is really bad. He’s very predictable, always the same thing, but Happy and Beasty are both on the same team, so it’s good for Beasty if Happy always does the same stuff.


If Happy is bad, TLO is the worst player on earth.

oh

allow the guy to have an opinion please
Administrator
Tiazi
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands761 Posts
November 24 2011 15:59 GMT
#106
Teamliquid coverage. Doesnt get much better than this!
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Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
November 24 2011 16:10 GMT
#107
awesome read. <3 haypro
+ Show Spoiler +
sad that he lost vs naama
BlackBurn
Profile Joined September 2011
Italy19 Posts
November 24 2011 16:11 GMT
#108
I think Haypro was a bit too confident due to his performance at MLG...maybe he underestimated Naama
No one lives forever.
razrrr
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany15 Posts
November 24 2011 16:19 GMT
#109
On November 25 2011 00:11 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 22:57 razrrr wrote:
TLO: I’d go with Beasty... because I think Happy is really bad. He’s very predictable, always the same thing, but Happy and Beasty are both on the same team, so it’s good for Beasty if Happy always does the same stuff.


If Happy is bad, TLO is the worst player on earth.

oh

allow the guy to have an opinion please


I do allow him to have an oppinion, but you can't call a player bad if you are probably in the worst shape of your life. And the way he's saying Happy would be bad is just embarrassing.
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
November 24 2011 16:26 GMT
#110
always nice to see players' insight, but..did they really not notice how Fenix 3killed oGs?
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Timmeh_Anderson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany37 Posts
November 24 2011 16:37 GMT
#111
and haypro is out ^^ so his performence at mlg was maybe luck only
lukasdesign
Profile Joined April 2011
Switzerland93 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 16:41:38
November 24 2011 16:38 GMT
#112
"I’d go with myself and Nerchio, to be honest. "


well....

+ Show Spoiler +
Cup holder of Winter DH10 Naama gave his 50cent kicked Haypro out, i am not that surprised to be honest
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
November 24 2011 16:40 GMT
#113
The second stage of this tournament is going to be SICK!
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
November 24 2011 16:44 GMT
#114
sadly enough, it looks like we will have to wait until 2012 to see the best of EU and KR playing under one roof


You know, there is this little event called the WCG, and directly after that, the Blizzard Cup. We'll be seeing plenty of it before the year is over.

Jongl0
Profile Joined June 2011
631 Posts
November 24 2011 17:11 GMT
#115
This was a really fun read, more of these please!
Snorkels
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1015 Posts
November 24 2011 17:30 GMT
#116
Great write-up, thanks for coming through with the quality write-up as usual!
Ada
Profile Joined October 2004
Germany150 Posts
November 24 2011 17:34 GMT
#117
I agree with haypro, the price money difference between the ranks is too big.
Shif
Profile Joined November 2011
Finland2 Posts
November 24 2011 17:56 GMT
#118
HerO!
Think if you can.
polok
Profile Joined April 2011
United States9 Posts
November 24 2011 18:00 GMT
#119
Haypro and TLO really contribute to this well.... much more insightful
"Mules are OP" Sir Maximus Black
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
November 24 2011 19:41 GMT
#120
Looks like they're not good at predicting their own results.

yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
November 24 2011 19:54 GMT
#121
Loved the right up :D TY
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
PWNuLimByLim
Profile Joined September 2010
United States99 Posts
November 24 2011 20:01 GMT
#122
[image loading]

Dreamhack on Thanksgiving!!!!
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Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
November 24 2011 20:08 GMT
#123
On November 25 2011 01:19 razrrr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2011 00:11 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On November 24 2011 22:57 razrrr wrote:
TLO: I’d go with Beasty... because I think Happy is really bad. He’s very predictable, always the same thing, but Happy and Beasty are both on the same team, so it’s good for Beasty if Happy always does the same stuff.


If Happy is bad, TLO is the worst player on earth.

oh

allow the guy to have an opinion please


I do allow him to have an oppinion, but you can't call a player bad if you are probably in the worst shape of your life. And the way he's saying Happy would be bad is just embarrassing.


You're either trolling or a serious hypocrite or stupid.

If you're right, you can only call players bad if you're good, then a random sub 10 postcount TLer has no right to comment on anything ever.

If you're wrong then you're stupid.

If you're a troll you're doing it really poorly.



Personally I thought the dialogue was funny - wonder how accurate the transcript is and if it is, holy wpm batman
Stork HerO and Protoss everywhere - redfive on bnet
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 20:10:04
November 24 2011 20:08 GMT
#124
GOGO PREDY!
Massive noobs TLO and Haypro even fail to mention him in their predictions eww
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LeibSaiLeib
Profile Joined October 2010
173 Posts
November 24 2011 20:22 GMT
#125
terrible lag, i tought its me but chat is full of whine, and its been like that for hours it seems, and i am just 1 country away from sweden lol

but then again they are probably working on it and everything cant be perfect
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
November 24 2011 21:03 GMT
#126
On November 25 2011 05:01 PWNuLimByLim wrote:
[image loading]

Dreamhack on Thanksgiving!!!!


Thumbs up btw i have the same mouse, mousepad and mousebungee as you. Epic!
BlazeTSR
Profile Joined November 2011
United States218 Posts
November 24 2011 22:12 GMT
#127
This tournament is going so crazy!!! Go Idra!
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Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
November 24 2011 22:52 GMT
#128
great read love it and cant wait to see what happens at dreamhack
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Acnologia
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia410 Posts
November 25 2011 00:39 GMT
#129
I missed the first day so i compared the results to TLO and Haypro's predictions....wow they were super spot on, only wrong in one or two places.

On November 25 2011 05:08 LemOn wrote:
GOGO PREDY!
Massive noobs TLO and Haypro even fail to mention him in their predictions eww


Predy went 0-6 in his group
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SgtPepper
Profile Joined November 2010
United States568 Posts
November 25 2011 01:25 GMT
#130
Hilarious commentary by Haypro. Glad he finally did well in MLG, he deserved it.
"After I reconquer Ba Sing Se, I'm going to reconquer my tea shop! And I'm going to play Pai Sho every day."
OMFGWTF
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada6 Posts
November 25 2011 03:22 GMT
#131
Go HuK!!
Cool Calgarian Random Playa
H4rlequin
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand16 Posts
November 25 2011 04:14 GMT
#132
group stage 2 gonna be interesting with you could almost say EG's top 3 playing for best EG player in group A and also groups B, E, and F also being extremely good/tough groups.
Random ftw, Protoss so OP
iiGreetings
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada563 Posts
November 25 2011 04:25 GMT
#133
Thanks for this article love listening to the players pov because they are really in the scene and its nice to hear proffesional thought.

Thanks again was sick
Adapt and React I MKP, PartinG, EffOrt ♥
iiGreetings
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada563 Posts
November 25 2011 04:28 GMT
#134
On November 25 2011 05:01 PWNuLimByLim wrote:
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Dreamhack on Thanksgiving!!!!

Hockey fan, Starcraft fan. You my sir, we must lan
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Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
November 25 2011 06:31 GMT
#135
Holy $%!^

Group F, Group Stage 2 - Group of Death:
Sen
Elfi
DRG
Hero

Hardest group imo
🥇 Prediction Contest - Mess with the best, die like the rest.
nokz88
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1253 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 07:49:13
November 25 2011 07:18 GMT
#136
in a state of trance
Quasimoto3000
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States471 Posts
November 25 2011 08:24 GMT
#137
Damn, too bad both these guys didnt make it )}:
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UBavarice
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden358 Posts
November 25 2011 13:38 GMT
#138
Why does it always have to be about EU vs NA? If anything it's Sweden vs NA. When are Americans going to get that not all Europeans define themselves as "Europeans", and that we - as Europeans - are caught up in some kind of eternal feud with America?

I'm a Swede, not a European.
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fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 13:55:39
November 25 2011 13:54 GMT
#139
Impressively correct predictions! TL players should do it more often!

Edit : Totally not related, and I have no idea what was the discussion about, but I'm european, then french.
Waterflow
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1550 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 13:59:55
November 25 2011 13:58 GMT
#140
On November 25 2011 22:38 UBavarice wrote:
Why does it always have to be about EU vs NA? If anything it's Sweden vs NA. When are Americans going to get that not all Europeans define themselves as "Europeans", and that we - as Europeans - are caught up in some kind of eternal feud with America?

I'm a Swede, not a European.


Dreamhack is swedish yes but it's also the biggest event in Europe.

And yeah i don't like to be called a european eighter. EU is not a country damnit ^^ (and im proud of my own country)

But EU is a good word to use when you are talking about a bunch of countries at the same time. It's easier to just say EU than name all the countries you are thinking about.

But still...
LeibSaiLeib
Profile Joined October 2010
173 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 14:06:36
November 26 2011 13:58 GMT
#141
On November 25 2011 22:38 UBavarice wrote:
Why does it always have to be about EU vs NA? If anything it's Sweden vs NA. When are Americans going to get that not all Europeans define themselves as "Europeans", and that we - as Europeans - are caught up in some kind of eternal feud with America?

I'm a Swede, not a European.


I am Estonian, but some USA people call themselves Americans, that means south-america, north-america, latin-america (that means they are really smart to know alot of languages etc).

But on serious points, USA people are victim of a culture wich promotes excessive lvls of patriotism and some EU countries are also known for its love for their own countries. France for example did not let bretton (a subculture) to get cultural autonomy (they had even their own language wich was killed by Frances pressure). Dutch on the other hand are much more free in that regard, since its a trading country in history and allways had diverce cultures.
Korleone
Profile Joined November 2011
France5 Posts
November 26 2011 23:30 GMT
#142
LeibSaiLeib, that's not completely true about France subcultures... OK, in France there is an official language which is French, but other languages and culture are totally allowed ! And you can learn it in schools (Alsacien, Breton, Corse, Provençal...)
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
November 27 2011 00:10 GMT
#143
LIQUID
FIGHTING
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How2getMaster
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany124 Posts
November 27 2011 00:20 GMT
#144
HELL YEAH HERO DESERVED IT SO MUCH GREAT PEFORMANCE FROM HIM CONGRATZ :D
DiamondToss looking for a team :)
testthewest
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany274 Posts
November 28 2011 00:41 GMT
#145
On November 25 2011 22:38 UBavarice wrote:
Why does it always have to be about EU vs NA? If anything it's Sweden vs NA. When are Americans going to get that not all Europeans define themselves as "Europeans", and that we - as Europeans - are caught up in some kind of eternal feud with America?

I'm a Swede, not a European.



Yeah I kinda wonder about that too. I though E-sports was refreshingly low on nationalism, and high on sportmanship. I thought it's more of: esport fans vs the rest of the world than NA esport fans VS european esport fans.

Why the divide? I can cheer for Huk or Hero, even though I'm german. As long as they stay protoss!
War is not about who is right, but who is left.
Puppet
Profile Joined November 2011
Finland3 Posts
November 28 2011 15:02 GMT
#146
Epic
And thus it begins.
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 19:09:29
November 28 2011 19:09 GMT
#147
Congrats to hero.
And I want to say a big shout out to Tasteless. The first finals game he casted really reminded me of his BW times. He just pumped up the audience with his voice.Top notch right there <3 <3 <3 <3
Splunge
Profile Joined July 2008
Germany925 Posts
November 29 2011 08:13 GMT
#148
Just watched the finals. Amazing play from Hero! Im really happy for him and for Liquid!
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